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[Q] Original ROM's CPU freq scaling range

Hi, just wanted to know what is original HTC's ROM CPU scaling range and what is its CPU governor. My guess is 245-528, ondemand - is that correct?

Sorry, I don't know myself, but I'd like to know this too! I've just installed JokerDroid on mine, and I want to set it to stock frequencies so I can improve the battery life.

I'm using 352-691 ondemand, but I think 748 is ok too.

I think the min is 352MHz. But again, I am not so sure. (I arrived at this value when I was on the Stock ROM and used Android System Info which shows the various CPU frequencies and the time periods they operate on that frequency)

zigee said:
I'm using 352-691 ondemand, but I think 748 is ok too.
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Isn't the max. for this device "528"

xXxeXtreme said:
Isn't the max. for this device "528"
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Custom ROM's (Or, more appropriately - Custom Kernels) allow you to set a CPU Speed upto 768MHz.
BUT - The performance increase is not as great as the speed increase shows. So, if you do overclock, don't keep huge expectations.

zigee said:
I'm using 352-691 ondemand, but I think 748 is ok too.
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I am running on 710 max, some people run on 768 max. But apparantly it is phone related because some people can perfectly run on 768 whilst I read a few days ago from a person here whose wildfire started force closing things around 710 or one higher or so.
Try a bit yourself which works for you. There are benchmarks that you can let run to see how often an error will occur approximately I have no link myself but I know a bud of mine did that to try how high he could go

At 691, some apps force closed, so I'm back to 595. It was stable for me.

gues that the 352MHz is the stock minimum then. There should be a noticable battery life increase when 122MHz is my current IDLE clock huh?
Now Iam running 122-710MHz on stock HTC ROM, very stable. If I set the frequency above 710MHz the scaling become unstable uner LOAD sometimes and dropping to 480MHz.
Using jacob kernel v4.

overclocking - my questions for understanding

So I thought about overclocking. I never overclocked any CPU by now. No PC cpus, no mobile cpus
I just always read: Do not overclock! More heat production, more energy costing and of course: probably decrease device life-time and may damage the phone.
On the opposite there is: more cpu-power. WFS seems to be able to get OC'd to 800 MHz (which is 200 above standard and only 200 below Desire)
So, what can you tell me about the above conclusions?
Next question: Do I need overclocking, or is it just to win a p.... length comparing ?
I'm on stock European rom 2.3.5. I know I need custom kernel. which one I could use, how to flash? Which apps do I need furthermore?

theq86 said:
So I thought about overclocking. I never overclocked any CPU by now. No PC cpus, no mobile cpus
I just always read: Do not overclock! More heat production, more energy costing and of course: probably decrease device life-time and may damage the phone.
On the opposite there is: more cpu-power. WFS seems to be able to get OC'd to 800 MHz (which is 200 above standard and only 200 below Desire)
So, what can you tell me about the above conclusions?
Next question: Do I need overclocking, or is it just to win a p.... length comparing ?
I'm on stock European rom 2.3.5. I know I need custom kernel. which one I could use, how to flash? Which apps do I need furthermore?
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No it's not just for a pissing contest.
Jikantaru's new kernel will allow you to set your clock to vary between 120 Mhz and 806 Mhz although 787 Mhz tends to work for those unlucky enough to have phones that freeze up at 806 Mhz.
The CPU doesn't run balls out all the time. It speedsteps as needed to save battery power.
You flash the kernel that you download to your SD card through CWM Recovery's Install zip from SD card feature.
Reboot and you now have Ext4 support for Link2SD, etc, and overclocking capabilities as well as a host of other kernel tweaks to handle memory management, etc.
As far as programs to set the clock with? SetCPU, Rom Toolbox, Nofrills CPU, Antutu CPU, etc.
I would choose "Smartass" as your governor and 120 and 806 as your min and max CPU settings and choose to set it at boot.
That's just my preference.
I personally bought Rom Toolbox Pro and manage the CPU settings through it.
It's got a host of other cool features all in one place and jrummy updates it very often with new fixes, features, etc.

thanks for that.
so what about damaging the cpu or the device? is there nothing to worry about?
and what is a govener? do I need it in addition to setcpu ?

theq86 said:
thanks for that.
so what about damaging the cpu or the device? is there nothing to worry about?
and what is a govener? do I need it in addition to setcpu ?
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The governor is the method by which the phone plans it's stepping up and down of frequencies. Smartass is a tried and true good combination of power savings and stepping to the plate with high clock frequencies when needed.
No you won't need anything extra. It's one of the settings in any of those programs.

Sorry for asking again:
It won't damage my device or burn the cpu as overclocking a normal PC CPU would do?
edit: using nofrills now. Seems to work.

theq86 said:
Sorry for asking again:
It won't damage my device or burn the cpu as overclocking a normal PC CPU would do?
edit: using nofrills now. Seems to work.
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Overclocking comes with no promises man. Mine's been overclocked since August so that's all I have to go on.

There is always a danger or risk when overclocking. The manufacturers determine the safe frequencies, temperatures, voltage, etc. based on scientific experiments in different environments. However, with that said, obviously, they are not infallable either. The best way to determine your risk is to think about what conditions you'll be using it in the most and what kind of stress it'll put on your phone's internals. Do some research and see what other people have problems with and under what kind of stress was the phone. Use common sense. Things like raising voltage and frequencies raise the temperature of the phone's internals, also. So, in turn, do you also have a case on the device that retains heat? Do you live in an humid/dry or warm/cold area? Do you do a lot of multitasking? Are you constantly on it? Hope this helps.
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[Q] franco.Kernel v141 Stock Voltages

So, I know we all have different phones, and after looking at a review of some voltages to try, I changed all the stock voltages to the ones I saw and saved them as default (don't ask me why, I do not know myself). Since this, I set my phone to hotplug and the phone has had multiple Sleep of Death cases. I think it has to do with the voltage but it could just be my phone not liking hotplug because it stops if I turn off hotplug. Or hell it could be that both together are causing it. So I was wondering could someone provide me with stock voltages at 384, 729, 1036, 1228 and 1344 mhz. Or better yet if you could provide me with the best voltages that help save a little battery life. Thank You! (Also I have been looking but have not found the stock voltage for the numbers I listed above)

stock voltages are 1025, 1203, 1317, 1380. 1350mhz is not a stock clock speed so theres no stock voltages. you can try these undervolt values, they are pretty conservative 850, 950, 1050, 1175 and 1250. remember to do nandroid backup first.
undervolt will not really gain you any noticeable difference in battery life, the cpu uses relatively little power to begin with so reducing it by a few hundred mv is not going to make a different with normal use. If you want to try it out just start from stock and go down 25-50mv at a time and test it with some games or stress test.

neotekz said:
stock voltages are 1025, 1203, 1317, 1380. 1350mhz is not a stock clock speed so theres no stock voltages. you can try these undervolt values, they are pretty conservative 850, 950, 1050, 1175 and 1250. remember to do nandroid backup first.
undervolt will not really gain you any noticeable difference in battery life, the cpu uses relatively little power to begin with so reducing it by a few hundred mv is not going to make a different with normal use. If you want to try it out just start from stock and go down 25-50mv at a time and test it with some games or stress test.
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Thank you. If they really don't make a difference I will leave them be at stock. Any good value for 1350? Or should I just stick with 1250mV? Just really trying to get 2 days out of the phone, but I assume I cannot complain since I am already getting 4h of screen time with normal use on the 2000mah battery. I will look around here some more and see if I can find any more useful tips on better battery life. Thanks again!

neotekz said:
stock voltages are 1025, 1203, 1317, 1380. 1350mhz is not a stock clock speed so theres no stock voltages. you can try these undervolt values, they are pretty conservative 850, 950, 1050, 1175 and 1250. remember to do nandroid backup first.
undervolt will not really gain you any noticeable difference in battery life, the cpu uses relatively little power to begin with so reducing it by a few hundred mv is not going to make a different with normal use. If you want to try it out just start from stock and go down 25-50mv at a time and test it with some games or stress test.
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I wish I would have read this post a few days ago prior to changing my voltage settings also. Only to learn that I wasn't doing my GNex a significant favor.

falconfan said:
I wish I would have read this post a few days ago prior to changing my voltage settings also. Only to learn that I wasn't doing my GNex a significant favor.
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Ya thankfully read it, tried these voltages with hotplug on and screen off settings and the phone did not sleep of death this time, but it froze right after wakeup, so no hotplug for me, just conservative.

Also, be very careful with CORE and IVA undervolting. In my case, undervolting theese too much caused the exactly same issue you are dealing with. Same goes with profiles for SetCPU profiles which also causes the phone to behave like that in some cases

keem85 said:
Also, be very careful with CORE and IVA undervolting. In my case, undervolting theese too much caused the exactly same issue you are dealing with. Same goes with profiles for SetCPU profiles which also causes the phone to behave like that in some cases
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So for what I can make out from your post, some reason its setcpu profiles not working, not the phones cpu itself not allowing it be put into hotplug mode? also, sorry for the noob question but what is the difference between CORE and IVA undervolting? Or should I say could you explain them to me.

If you are going to use profiles, your phone should be very stable. In other words undervolting makes it instable if you tweak it too much. Core and iva are very sensitive. Core is your graphic gpu. Let them stay at the normal settings. Use milestone franco stable build undervolting only the cpu. Rather 700 mhz at the lowest. Try it out
EDIT: "If you are going to use profiles, your phone should be very stable BEFORE setting profiles"
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[Q] Really strange UV capability on GN7100???

This is really strange and probably even stranger to complain about but I want to understand.
I UV on my Note and so far managed to drop to levels I find hard to believe.
200MHz - 600mV
300MHz - 600mV
400MHz - 600mV
500MHz - 600mV
600MHz - 600mV
700MHz - 600mV
800MHz - 600mV
900MHz - 600mV
1000MHz - 600mV
1100MHz - 600mV
1200MHz - 975mV
1300MHz - 975mV
1400MHz - 1000mV
1500MHz - 1050mV
1600MHz - 1100mV
Why is my note able to run at 600mV on all frequencies up to 1100MHz??? At first I thought it was a reporting error and It wasn't really running on those voltages but found breaking points on higher frequencies so eliminated that theory. :silly: Would be to be able to test these frequencies at even lower levels. Anybody know a tool that can do it?
This is the process I followed:
Set the voltage value in STweaks,
Set the max MHz in STweaks to the frequency for which I just dropped the voltage ,
Close STweaks,
Open Voltage Control to confirm that the voltage and max frequency has really been set,
Close Voltage control,
Reboot,
Open Voltage Control again to confirm that the voltage and max frequency is really set,
Close Voltage control,
Reset timings in Android Tuner Free,
Start Stability - Classic Test and verify that the Note is running at the max frequency,
Open some other apps and play around for a while,
Get Stability Test back to foreground and go to sleep (if it is time to sleep)
For all of the above frequency values i ran the Stability Test overnight for at least 4 hours plus for a couple hours while using the phone. Didnt get a single freeze or reboot. The only issue was that while I had it on max 200 MHz the Note was not usable while the 300 and 400 MHz frequencies were annoyingly slow. 500 MHz and up is bearable even with Stability Test running.
Attached are the last status and test screenshots. The Stability Test has been running while I been also using it for calling, messaging, adjusting other app setting and taking screenshots.
I check the frequency timings in Android Tuner Free and it is usually 1-4% on offline, 95-98% on the tested frequency and sometime 1% on the frequency just above the tested one. All other frequency times usually 0%
Any ideas if something funny is going on or is this Note just unbelievably under-voltable???

MutantWizard said:
This is really strange and probably even stranger to complain about but I simply need to understand.
I UV on my Note and so far managed to drop to levels I simply cant believe.
200MHz - 600 mV
300MHz - 600 mV
400MHz - 600 mV
500MHz - 600 mV
600MHz - 600 mV
700MHz - 600 mV
800MHz - 600 mV
Rest of the frequencies are still at stock values
First I copy pasted some UV setting from another post and the Note ran without Issues. Then I started dropping a little bit here and there and at some point got some freezes and reboots but couldnt figure out which frequency was the issue so I returned all to stock and started one by one from 200 MHz. The above is where I got to so far and simply need to understand why or what is happening.
This is the process I followed:
Set the voltage value in STweaks,
Set the max MHz in STweaks to the frequency for which I just dropped the voltage ,
Close STweaks,
Open Voltage Control to confirm that the voltage and max frequency has really been set,
Close Voltage control,
Reboot,
Open Voltage Control again to confirm that the voltage and max frequency is really set,
Close Voltage control,
Reset timings in Android Tuner Free,
Start Stability - Classic Test and verify that the Note is running at the max frequency,
Open some other apps and play around for a while,
Get Stability Test back to foreground and go to sleep (if it is time to sleep)
For all of the above frequency values i ran the Stability Test overnight for at least 4 hours plus for a couple hours while using the phone. Didnt get a single freeze or reboot. The only issue was that while I had it on max 200 MHz the Note was not usable while the 300 and 400 MHz frequencies were annoyingly slow. 500 MHz and up is bearable even with Stability Test running.
Attached are the screenshots of the process at 800 MHz and the Stability Test has been running for almost six hous while I been also using it for messaging, adjusting other app setting and taking screenshots. After about 5 hours of 100% CPU load at 800 MHz the Note is down to 80% battery. Not really sure but it seems quite low power consumption.
I just checked the timings again in Android Tuner Free and 12% on offline, 86% on 800 MHz. All other frequency times 0%
Any ideas if something funny is going on or is this Note just unbelievably undervoltable???
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1st thing, my STweaks is ver 1.1 but looks a bit different than your screenshots, pls confirm that.
2nd, I too like to underclock but had no idea you could push it as far as you . It's kind of like driving a car low on gas to see how far you can go.
3rd What ROM & kernel you on? I'm on X-Note 3.3 with Adam kernel.
Last, here's a screenshot of my undervolting...I'm kinda embarrassed compared to yours Note the differences in layout of STweak menu.
I'm inspired to go even lower now, my battery life is pretty awesome but I think I can squeeze it more.

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1st thing, my STweaks is ver 1.1 but looks a bit different than your screenshots, pls confirm that.
2nd, I too like to underclock but had no idea you could push it as far as you . It's kind of like driving a car low on gas to see how far you can go.
3rd What ROM & kernel you on? I'm on X-Note 3.3 with Adam kernel.
Last, here's a screenshot of my undervolting...I'm kinda embarrassed compared to yours Note the differences in layout of STweak menu.
I'm inspired to go even lower now, my battery life is pretty awesome but I think I can squeeze it more.
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My STweaks is also 1.1 and guessing the menu difference might be due to different kernel. I am on RedPill, stock ROM and probably irrelevant but TWERP as well.
I have mixed feelings about the achieved UV. Very happy if it is true but suspicious that there is some kind of a reporting error and that I am actually not under-volting it at all.
I will soon update the OP since I have now been now testing the 900 MHz for the last 3 turns. Started at 900 mV then droped to 800 mV and now already running it for a couple hours at 700 mV. I just cant believe that its actually at at this voltage and running without issues.

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My STweaks is also 1.1 and guessing the menu difference might be due to different kernel. I am on RedPill, stock ROM and probably irrelevant but TWERP as well.
I have mixed feelings about the achieved UV. Very happy if it is true but suspicious that there is some kind of a reporting error and that I am actually not under-volting it at all.
I will soon update the OP since I have now been now testing the 900 MHz for the last 3 turns. Started at 900 mV then droped to 800 mV and now already running it for a couple hours at 700 mV. I just cant believe that its actually at at this voltage and running without issues.
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Hmm yes, because you're going so low, it begs the question is the app reading accurate? I mean, you're reeeaaaal low. Would be good for a more knowledgeable person to chip in and give us feedback.
One thing - in your screenshot it shows your max frequency capped at 800MHz. To me that reads you are running only at 50% power. If so, that explains your insane battery life. From steps 900 and above you've left voltage at stock because they're unused. right?

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Hmm yes, because you're going so low, it begs the question is the app reading accurate? I mean, you're reeeaaaal low. Would be good for a more knowledgeable person to chip in and give us feedback.
One thing - in your screenshot it shows your max frequency capped at 800MHz. To me that reads you are running only at 50% power. If so, that explains your insane battery life. From steps 900 and above you've left voltage at stock because they're unused. right?
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Yes higher frequencies still at stock and not used but will be getting to them at their own time. Fact though is that even with cap at current 900 MHz and with Stability test running I can still use the Note normally for any regular tasks. If I don't play games I would never need more speed.
Now updating the OP with the 900 MHz setting and screenshots.
BTW I just realized I added to battery life when transferring screenshots by connecting the Note to the laptop by cable. Battery life still remains to be seen.

Updated the OP with the full range of voltages 200-1600. I don't OC so those will not be doing. But I still have the original question.
Is it possible???

Gets more and more strange. GPU under-clocking and under-volting of following frequencies working for days without any usage issue. I changed the minimum and maximum MHz to include the below frequencies and didn't notice any difference in the Note behavior / performance. When running the stability test with GPU testing included I don't get any errors if running under 2 hours but if I leave it overnight the test does crash at some point in time without any other ill effect. I only know that it crashed coz it disapears and it tells me it crashed when the next day I re-start the test.
54MHz - 600mV
108MHz - 600mV
160MHz - 600mV
266MHz - 600mV
350MHz - 600mV
The fact though is I don't understand what to expect as an issue when under-clocking or under-volting the GPU.

Mate, you're still at it!?
Rereading your data, I strongly suggest you post these stats in whatever thread belongs to the kernel and/or tuner app you're using.
My overseas Singaporean work colleagues would say 'cannot be, cannot be.....'

tweeny80 said:
Mate, you're still at it!?
Rereading your data, I strongly suggest you post these stats in whatever thread belongs to the kernel and/or tuner app you're using.
My overseas Singaporean work colleagues would say 'cannot be, cannot be.....'
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Yea slowly trying one by one new settings and letting it run for a while so that when I go to the next setting and experience an issue I am sure its the newest setting that's causing it.
Thanks will do as suggested.

Kernel Related

Which kernel is best for performance?(for Whyred)
1. Black box
2.no name
And many out there???
Suggestions please.
Thanks in advance.

Deep.cdy said:
Which kernel is best for performance?(for Whyred)
1. Black box
2.no name
And many out there???
Suggestions please.
Thanks in advance.
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You should try them and find out the most suitable for you, use them for 1-2 days, you'll see the difference.... personally, I'm using NoName kernel with RR

NoName for Lineage based.

Deep.cdy said:
Which kernel is best for performance?(for Whyred)
1. Black box
2.no name
And many out there???
Suggestions please.
Thanks in advance.
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i think currently is noname.
we hope a bunch of recognised developers in the near future as franco as many others.

Kirks, for battery...
Dude unlocked the lower cpu freqs...

m666p said:
Kirks, for battery...
Dude unlocked the lower cpu freqs...
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It operates on lower Volts using this unlocked freqs?

peter-k said:
It operates on lower Volts using this unlocked freqs?
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God knows, but what I do know is that it should produce less heat at the very least and it performs pretty gud on powersave governor. The gpu on the other hand is garbage at min freq (160mhz), even the launcher lags....

peter-k said:
NoName for Lineage based.
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But after flashing no name 1.3 the WiFi doesn't work for me on rr 12th June

Deep.cdy said:
But after flashing no name 1.3 the WiFi doesn't work for me on rr 12th June
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Mine was fine but now I'm on Aosip.

i think for now the best is to use a stock kernel, be careful with the charging limits.

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It operates on lower Volts using this unlocked freqs?
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m666p said:
God knows, but what I do know is that it should produce less heat at the very least and it performs pretty gud on powersave governor. The gpu on the other hand is garbage at min freq (160mhz), even the launcher lags....
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Of course it operates at lower voltage as it's a lower frequency and requires less power draw. Lower voltages should mean lower heat, however you don't magically get that lower freqs to operate, you need to tweak the interactive governor to make use of them all efficiently. So far I'm on Kirks kernel and AOSiP and it's a quite good combo.
The lag is not caused by low GPU freqs, it's because of low CPU freqs for that particular load, so governor tweaking is needed.

Cirra92 said:
Of course it operates at lower voltage as it's a lower frequency and requires less power draw. Lower voltages should mean lower heat, however you don't magically get that lower freqs to operate, you need to tweak the interactive governor to make use of them all efficiently. So far I'm on Kirks kernel and AOSiP and it's a quite good combo.
The lag is not caused by low GPU freqs, it's because of low CPU freqs for that particular load, so governor tweaking is needed.
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Lol, I tested what you said out. Because you said it with such confidence...
I changed the cpu governor to performance and set the gpu to 160mhz max...
That made the experience a bit better but it would still lag a lot in recents and app launcher scrolling...
I've attached a screen shot to prove it too...
Another thing, just because the clock is lower does not mean that the voltage is lower as well, many devices that ive owned over the years have had the same voltage's for lower clocks( moto g2, Sony xperia z1)
And lastly, you should "magically" get those lower frequencies(if they are truly unlocked) since governors will always operate within the min/max frequencies that are set by the user or by default(unless it reverts parameters back to stock, like our device does on interactive)...

Forgot screenshot....

m666p said:
Lol, I tested what you said out. Because you said it with such confidence...
I changed the cpu governor to performance and set the gpu to 160mhz max...
That made the experience a bit better but it would still lag a lot in recents and app launcher scrolling...
I've attached a screen shot to prove it too...
Another thing, just because the clock is lower does not mean that the voltage is lower as well, many devices that ive owned over the years have had the same voltage's for lower clocks( moto g2, Sony xperia z1)
And lastly, you should "magically" get those lower frequencies(if they are truly unlocked) since governors will always operate within the min/max frequencies that are set by the user or by default(unless it reverts parameters back to stock, like our device does on interactive)...
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First of all, we are talking here about difference in voltage between stock minimum freq for big cluster, which is 1.1ghz and actual possible minimum which is 300mhz, and there is a difference in voltage, that was the point. The devices I owned, S5 and Z3compact had more CPU steps, therefore the difference between some of the steps was really small or there wasn't any, but the CPU scaling made a jump to the freq with bigger difference (higher or lower, that was the stock behavior so some freqs weren't used). Here it might use all of the freq steps as there are less of them and the difference in voltage is significant enough, which might be the case, I said that because of my experience with previous devices. But you've missed the point anyway, I have said that even if unlocked, some freqs won't be used just because they are there if the governor parameters aren't set properly (or will be barely used). That was my point, I said that as a general note, so users won't jump the gun and blame devs for whatever.
And another one, regarding your test and lag with GPU, now I'm confused why would you set your max at 160mhz? I know it was for testing purposes in this case, but you did complain about it in original post and I said it won't lag because the max would still be set to 430mhz in which case the GPU freq scaling would do the job which it does very good so far. It would lag of course if you set max GPU freq to 160, but that's not what would you do for daily usage, right? Sorry if I misunderstood something.

Cirra92 said:
First of all, we are talking here about difference in voltage between stock minimum freq for big cluster, which is 1.1ghz and actual possible minimum which is 300mhz, and there is a difference in voltage, that was the point. The devices I owned, S5 and Z3compact had more CPU steps, therefore the difference between some of the steps was really small or there wasn't any, but the CPU scaling made a jump to the freq with bigger difference (higher or lower, that was the stock behavior so some freqs weren't used). Here it might use all of the freq steps as there are less of them and the difference in voltage is significant enough, which might be the case, I said that because of my experience with previous devices. But you've missed the point anyway, I have said that even if unlocked, some freqs won't be used just because they are there if the governor parameters aren't set properly (or will be barely used). That was my point, I said that as a general note, so users won't jump the gun and blame devs for whatever.
And another one, regarding your test and lag with GPU, now I'm confused why would you set your max at 160mhz? I know it was for testing purposes in this case, but you did complain about it in original post and I said it won't lag because the max would still be set to 430mhz in which case the GPU freq scaling would do the job which it does very good so far. It would lag of course if you set max GPU freq to 160, but that's not what would you do for daily usage, right? Sorry if I misunderstood something.
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I kinda get what you mean, but the min freqs should kick in by default. They don't though on kirks, you need to change the governor to something like alucard or zzmove once before it actually starts clocking down to 300mhz...
On a side I would just disable the big. Cluster if I could, I don't really need that much cpu performance...
I was trying to find the min gpu freq that would be usable and I was disappointed, cuz my Sony z1 had a smooth ui experience with the gpu clocked at 200mhz max and that thing had a sd800...
Btw, I do all this to get better battery life...

I found out something else, I can't use power save governor any more because it can't handle audio processing(ainur, v4a) when the screen is off...
Just like my old z1, Lol...
Makes me think that the performance is really identical to the snapdragon 800...
I wonder how pissed I would be if a I got the redmi 5 plus, the 625 would have been even worse...

m666p said:
I kinda get what you mean, but the min freqs should kick in by default. They don't though on kirks, you need to change the governor to something like alucard or zzmove once before it actually starts clocking down to 300mhz...
On a side I would just disable the big. Cluster if I could, I don't really need that much cpu performance...
I was trying to find the min gpu freq that would be usable and I was disappointed, cuz my Sony z1 had a smooth ui experience with the gpu clocked at 200mhz max and that thing had a sd800...
Btw, I do all this to get better battery life...
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m666p said:
I found out something else, I can't use power save governor any more because it can't handle audio processing(ainur, v4a) when the screen is off...
Just like my old z1, Lol...
Makes me think that the performance is really identical to the snapdragon 800...
I wonder how pissed I would be if a I got the redmi 5 plus, the 625 would have been even worse...
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Yeah I agree, it should, but how much it stays on minimum freq is dependent on couple of governor parameters (talking about interactive). On mine though it does stay on 300mhz when idling, on stock Kirks settings. Big cluster can be disabled through new hotplug solution, like Intelliplug, which I used on my old devices, and it performed great, 1 core was active when screen was off, screen on and light usage required only 2 cores, while all 4 were active under heavy load. Here however there is only Qualcomm's hotplug solution, until that changes, no luck. Regarding GPU freq, I don't think any device would work smoothly under 200mhz, you can set 266mhz here, it will be smooth, I've tested today, on my old SD801 it performed at 233mhz IIRC.
I've seen that, V4A requires higher freq than 300mhz, or even 422mhz which SD801 had, it's more about the freq rather than the chipset, as I've read on multiple threads that even the devices with SD820 were struggling a lot when processing audio at 300mhz when the screen was off. Don't worry, it's a general issue. There is also the optimization of the rom and audio mods as well, background tasks, kernel, it all goes into the mix.
This is actually a very good chipset, it's technically SD660 just with lower clocks on both CPU and GPU.
EDIT: I forgot, this is my usage on AOSiP + Kirks, stock interactive tunables, min freq 300mhz (big/little), GPU initial/min freq 160mhz, max 430mhz. Using microG instead off GApps, I have used FB, Instagram, Messenger app for 1,5h each, Viber was couple of hours, Chrome some 30mins, Panini sticker album 30+ minutes, 30 minutes of 2G calls. Network mode was LTE, though I was on wifi on whole charge.
Started measuring from 92%.

Thanks bro, that explains a lot...