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Maps is always running

Every time I check my running apps maps is there and it does not want to stop. Since maps is a battery hog I uninstalled it. Why is it always running? What is the best way to control this and other apps so they will start and stop as directed. The market is also runs from time to time. Maps might be started by the network location service. Do I have to edit the init file or?
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Android is not like Windows, killing apps is actually more counterproductive than it is helpful. There is plenty of documentation and explanations about this so I won't bore you, just look it up.
I haven't ran a task killer since about it week after I got my phone, and I noticed that my phone ran better without it, and my battery lasted longer.
Stop constantly worrying about what is running in the background and enjoy your phone.
If you don't want to believe it, you can try an app such as Autostarts. It should do what you're asking.
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There is a paid app called startup manager that I've used for a LONG time to take a lot of apps out of the boot up process.
Maps would be one of them.

HipKat said:
There is a paid app called startup manager that I've used for a LONG time to take a lot of apps out of the boot up process.
Maps would be one of them.
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Maps has a lot of receivers and start up conditions, get Gemini App Manager, and Autorun Manager. Using both of these and you will be able to stop it from starting on its own. With Gemini, you can change all it's start up conditions(package added/removed, boot, connectivity changed, etc), and you can disable/enable receivers with AutoRun manager.

conductive said:
Everytime I check my running apps maps is there and it does not want to stop. Since maps is a battery hog I uninstalled it. Why is it always running? What is the best way to control this and other apps so they will start and stop as directed. The market is also runs from time to time. Maps might be started by the network location service. Do I have to edit the init file or?
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Does it show up on your list of battery usage? Mine is always running but never shows up on the list... Running apps don't take battery unless they are actually using the CPU...

i had that problem too. what i did was go into the ALL tab n kill it to stop it. if i killed it from the RUNNING tab it would just restart. don't know y but thats how it worked for me...

If i keep tying to rapid kill maps it will eventully die. However, I might inadvertantly kill something else in the process.
I just do not see any reason that I need to be consistantly mapped. I will have to look at the battery consumption and the app managers are interesting. I have not used a task killer in quite some time. I would think that anything that runs this much has to bun some battery and responsiveness along the line somewhere.

[Q] ANDROID Experts.. Removing vs disable bloat/unnecessary apps

Can an expert scheme in which is better method and why?
I removed lots of bloats apps from here and feel like my phone drain faster than live them on or disable them. Any experts?

disabling an app disables it so the system knows not to use it. uninstalling an app gets rid of it so it's not physically on the phone. If you want more space on your internal memory uninstall the apps. If your noticing more drain check your battery stats and your data states in system settings. There has to be an app or something doing it. The disabled apps shouldn't because they're disabled.

spawn50ak49 said:
If your noticing more drain check your battery stats and your data states in system settings. There has to be an app or something doing it. The disabled apps shouldn't because they're disabled.
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I use CPUSpy to keep an eye on if my phone is doing odd things. For example the other day my battery was draining like I was constantly using the phone. CPUSpy confirmed that to be the case ... my phone was not going in to deep sleep.
BetterBatteryStats will give you an idea of why your phone isn't sleeping properly (assuming that's your problem). In my case, it turned out to be the Google+ Camera Upload service. It was constantly holding a wakelock, so my phone wouldn't sleep. I hadn't even configured Google+ so I'm not sure WTF it was doing. I froze the app in Titanium Backup and haven't had a problem since.
Also... just IMHO - I don't remove stock apps. Freeze them in Titanium Backup. That way if something goes bad after freezing an app, you can just defrost it and resolve the issue.

I have Cpuspy check for 2 conditions. Both went to deep sleep fine. The difference is stanby time. Even phone is in deep sleep, the % battery goes down faster for Rom with all bloat s removed
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Check your cell standby. How much battery is it using. If your phone has to keep looking for signal it's going to use more battery.
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[Q] Apps randomly starting/stopping; Unused apps being cached?

Since I noticed this behaviour last night, I've been obsessively watching various apps start and stop on their own. On the App Manager's "Running" tab, I keep seeing several apps start and stop on their own, despite the fact that I've turned off any network-related syncing or listening options in their individual settings.
Also, there seem to be far too many apps in the Cached Processes screen, most of them I haven't run at all for a long time.
Is this behaviour normal? (Android's, not my obsessing...)
I'm worried that something else is going on in the background and killing my battery. Or worse, scanning my system. (Though I did run an antivirus without any problems being detected.)
Thx.

I recently asked a similar question regarding lowering background processes allowed. Whether background and cached apps affect battery. I learned it is a trade off between using more battery to restart or pull from cache. I opted to do a heavy debloat and freeze certain apps or processes I don't need. I also use cool tools to watch my memory and CPU info and battery monitor widget pro to monitor mA and CPU temp. I enjoy trying to max out efficiency. I didn't see my post anymore in the last few pages but if its further back the guys linked me to some great info about processes. Sorry for not linking thread. I will when I get a chance. Hope it helps you too.

Bubba Fett said:
I recently asked a similar question regarding lowering background processes allowed. Whether background and cached apps affect battery. I learned it is a trade off between using more battery to restart or pull from cache. I opted to do a heavy debloat and freeze certain apps or processes I don't need. I also use cool tools to watch my memory and CPU info and battery monitor widget pro to monitor mA and CPU temp. I enjoy trying to max out efficiency. I didn't see my post anymore in the last few pages but if its further back the guys linked me to some great info about processes. Sorry for not linking thread. I will when I get a chance. Hope it helps you too.
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Thanks! I'll take a look in your post history to see if I can find it.
I'm less concerned with whether or not the apps are actually running or cached, what worries me is that they all seem to be constantly starting and stopping for a few seconds. Watching the Running apps screen I can see many different apps cycling over and over. The process starts, goes on a few seconds, then stops. Then another one pops up. Then another, etc etc.

I looked back about a dozen pages and couldn't find it anymore but I think it was diablo009 that gave me links to some really helpful stuff he had written. I'm not super proficient in maneuvering the forums but maybe you can find his posts with that info another way. Good luck.

Not sure if it loads my signature when posting from phone. But if it does, check Android Memory Management link in my signature.
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Bubba Fett said:
I looked back about a dozen pages and couldn't find it anymore but I think it was diablo009 that gave me links to some really helpful stuff he had written. I'm not super proficient in maneuvering the forums but maybe you can find his posts with that info another way. Good luck.
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(This is the one I found.)
I'm aware of that RAM usage with Android from similar articles I read last year, but it was really the automatic starting and stopping of processes/services that bugged me. I think it might just be a situation where if the app's on your phone there's nothing you can do about it if you've granted network access permissions. I probably naively assumed that if you granted those permissions where would be settings to disable network access within the apps.

Some of my observations:
An app prefetched into memory does not use CPU.
A prefetched app could be wiped from memory if more RAM is needed. After the memory intensive app quits, this could be loaded back.
If an app is used frequently, it would be one of the prime candidates to be considered for prefetching.
An app loaded (not prefetched) uses CPU based on its work, like it could be a daemon looking for updates.
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Some of my observations:
An app prefetched into memory does not use CPU.
A prefetched app could be wiped from memory if more RAM is needed. After the memory intensive app quits, this could be loaded back.
If an app is used frequently, it would be one of the prime candidates to be considered for prefetching.
An app loaded (not prefetched) uses CPU based on its work, like it could be a daemon looking for updates.
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The last one is what I am worried about. There are apps that are starting processes and then stopping repeatedly. A couple dozen different ones, including ones I have barely ever used. I've looked at some of those apps' settings and disabled any notifications or update checking, basically anything network related, but they keep showing up in my running apps/processes list throughout the day.

Not sure how Google market checks for app updates. It could be querying installed apps at regular intervals to check for their versions to compare to versions in market.
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Not sure how Google market checks for app updates. It could be querying installed apps at regular intervals to check for their versions to compare to versions in market.
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That's one thing I wondered about, but I have Google Play updates off. I guess it's possible that it still checks, though.
Thx for the reminder! I'm going to double-check my Play settings just in case something was reset during an update.

You could try something like Rom toolbox pro to stop startup programs if you use them infrequently. I have had a few issue stopping certain apps but a little tweaking and it works well. Juice Defender also has the option for disabling apps from accessing data/wifi or neither. I don't know about the process though. Thanks for spotting your name Diablo and helping out. Great info on the topics.

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Since I noticed this behaviour last night, I've been obsessively watching various apps start and stop on their own. On the App Manager's "Running" tab, I keep seeing several apps start and stop on their own, despite the fact that I've turned off any network-related syncing or listening options in their individual settings.
Also, there seem to be far too many apps in the Cached Processes screen, most of them I haven't run at all for a long time.
Is this behaviour normal? (Android's, not my obsessing...)
I'm worried that something else is going on in the background and killing my battery. Or worse, scanning my system. (Though I did run an antivirus without any problems being detected.)
Thx.
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I agree that if you don't use it, uninstall if you are able. Otherwise just disable it. This is unusual though. I randomly go into cached processes and only the things I use or that the system needs are there. On a rare basis something additional might pop up.

Am I missing something with Greenify?

From what I read Greenify hibernates apps you're not using after you select a few. Supposedly when you go back to the hibernated app it takes a little longer to load, but it resumes your previous state hence the term "hibernate".
However, for me it always forgets the apps state, regardless of what app I use it with. Greenify, for me, basically does exactly what a taskkiller did for me. The app has to reboot after being hibernated. I also never had the issue of tasks restarting themselves after being killed.
I am rooted, is this normal behavior, and if so, what is the benefit of using greenify over an automatic task killer?
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Am i missing something because i don't even see the app under my apps. I see a widget for it and it shows as a downloaded app in my application manager so i'm not able to view it in apps. Some help?

Android Deep Sleep app?

I am testing a faulty app that it's being faulty during deep sleep, therefore to fasten testing I would need an app which can force the phone to enter deep sleep mode immediately.
Any idea?

Macrodroid or Tasker maybe
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Hello
look for an app called napptime it may help you.
Jay

j1978 said:
Hello
look for an app called napptime it may help you.
Jay
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As he said naptime is the better option for this?

Thanks guys!

Try disabling all power management apps ie all the toggles in Device Care are toggled off except fast charging.
Do not enable sleep for any; Developer options>stand by apps, all buckets should show as active if not power management is active.
Close apps when done with them especially ones like Brave.
The phone will automatically go into a deep sleep state at screen off unless a 3rd party apk is misbehaving.
On my 10+ running on Pie this is how it runs best and gets the best battery life.
Goggle Play Services, Gmail, Playstore, Google Backup Transport, Google Framework and Samsung cloud backup are prime offenders*.
Disable these and all Google, Samsung, carrier and apk feedback. I use Karma Firewall to find rogue apks and lock the phone down as well as a package blocker.
I also use Battery Tracker from the Galaxy Store.
Nominal battery usage is 7-10%@hour heavy usage like vids and surfing. Off screen usage with AOD on is 1%@hour.
*enable when and as needed

Try Naptime and what blackhawk says!

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Try Naptime and what blackhawk says!
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You'll need to play with it; what works with my configuration may not work for others.
These are my current observations. My stock AT&T 10+ variant is heavy modified and watched over. As I intend to continue to use the current Pie firmware, I continue to tweak it.
What I've observed though over the last year to my dismay is any power management interferes with functionality sometimes randomly and unpredictably. It actually ends up increasing battery usage within a few days although initially it may seem to improve it.
Apparently it causes system conflicts.
I have no power management active other than the screen is set to "optimize" in Device Care and even Device Care is package blocked then unless I wish to use it to clear the cache (which the factory load version does very well).
I toggle Google Play Services/Gmail on as needed and a few other battery hogs. Point is I know their status; no random shutdowns or apk failures... and the best battery life I've ever seen on this device.
You need to go explore, find the resource hogs one by one and find a way to tone them down.
All the shotgun get it done power management apks failed miserably for myself multiple times....
Android runs very well by its self once your rein in a couple problem apks.
Many times the factory loaded versions run better then their updated versions. Gmail, Gmaps, Device Care... may or may not be true on your load; trust nothing!

ReeX said:
I am testing a faulty app that it's being faulty during deep sleep, therefore to fasten testing I would need an app which can force the phone to enter deep sleep mode immediately.
Any idea?
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Naptime
for me, forcedoze was the best, you can download apk

blackhawk said:
Try disabling all power management apps ie all the toggles in Device Care are toggled off except fast charging.
Do not enable sleep for any; Developer options>stand by apps, all buckets should show as active if not power management is active.
Close apps when done with them especially ones like Brave.
The phone will automatically go into a deep sleep state at screen off unless a 3rd party apk is misbehaving.
On my 10+ running on Pie this is how it runs best and gets the best battery life.
Goggle Play Services, Gmail, Playstore, Google Backup Transport, Google Framework and Samsung cloud backup are prime offenders*.
Disable these and all Google, Samsung, carrier and apk feedback. I use Karma Firewall to find rogue apks and lock the phone down as well as a package blocker.
I also use Battery Tracker from the Galaxy Store.
Nominal battery usage is 7-10%@hour heavy usage like vids and surfing. Off screen usage with AOD on is 1%@hour.
*enable when and as needed
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When I go into standby mode in developers options each app has 3 options. Frequent, rate, working set. What should I put them on?
Also what exactly does standby mode do? Is it manually disabling that app while not in use or only when you close it? As far as closing the apps, will closing them via the recent apps screen suffice or do I need to force close them?
And my last question is what do you mean by disabling an app such as play services?
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TheViciousGames said:
Try Naptime and what blackhawk says!
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yungzoe0624 said:
When I go into standby mode in developers options each app has 3 options. Frequent, rate, working set. What should I put them on?
Also what exactly does standby mode do? Is it manually disabling that app while not in use or only when you close it? As far as closing the apps, will closing them via the recent apps screen suffice or do I need to force close them?
And my last question is what do you mean by disabling an app such as play services?
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It shows the app's bucket state when power management is enabled.
Your power management is enabled... and likely wasting battery even though it's suppose to do the opposite. If power management is disabled as I suggested, all buckets are locked to active.
Right now I have GPS enabled; I disable Device Health Services com as it was constantly accessing the internet.
Usually closing the app is all that's needed.
Use Karma Firewall and Battery Tracker to help ferret out bad apps.
Depending on your model, OS/firmware load, 3rd party apks and settings configuration your system may respond differently.
I have heavily modified them on this 10+ Pie variant; it's an ongoing process. I have around 88 apks packaged disabled as well.
Androids wuv to be played with...