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Tired of locked bootloader, call me a sellout.

I have decided that I can not deal with the locked bootloader on this tablet and have chosen to sell it (got more then I paid). The A100 is a wonderful tablet and has great potential but the lack of developers and dead end bootloader is a showstopper.
I am waiting for another brand 7 inch tablet to arrive by Fedex later this week. It has the same basic specs as the a100. CWM is already available and there is a small amount development going on. But it is new on the market. No ICS yet. There is some talk in getting CM9 on it.
It is really disappointing that the 10 inch tabs are getting all of the glory, I really think the 7 inch is the best size for carrying with you.

see yah!
The locked bootloader isn't a big deal for me because the tab already does everything I want it to do. The only thing that could make this tab already better than what it is would be the unlocked bootloader that way we could look at different rom options (but to be honest the rom that's currently there isn't that bad at all). Granted it would be nice to overclock, but its already pretty fast and I haven't really had any hiccups while using it since I released the custom build.prop (except for using hdmi which I'm working on).
I think eventually we'll get some sort of work around for the bootloader working, its just a matter of time. I'm definitely not going to drop this tab though just because we don't have it figured out yet.
I do wish there was someone other than myself that's taken an interest in this tab that knows their way around custom recoverys and bootloaders since that's not one of my strong points but at least I'm trying to help.
I wont call you a sell out, but I will wish you good luck with your new device and happy modding!
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Which tablet did you get? I'm starting to look into getting a new one and giving this one to my wife.
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Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?

ED2O9 said:
Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I agree, but everyone is entitled to thier opinion. I personally don't care how bad you thought it sucked and what you're replacing it with. If you don't have anything useful to contribute don't bother posting. For me these "goodbye" types of posts fall into that catagory.
That's just my own opinion though.
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ED2O9 said:
Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I actually like my A100 and plan to hold on to it for a while.
Is that okay with everyone?
(Of course if someone wanted to pay me enough for it so I could buy the next, better thing....)

to OP good luck with your future endeavors as I am sure you will have new things you will complain about your new device seeing how you would post something like this.
And crossix thank you for all your hard work. I really wish I knew more than I could to help you and others out but I try to put in where I can. We need more devs like you around here.
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ED2O9 said:
Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I think its a simple way of letting their frustrations go. I was just doing some research on this tab as I'd like to have a nice little 7 inch carry along but not so sure about it with the locked b/l and bad viewing angles.
Is the screen as bad as it looks in videos? From what I've seen and read this thing runs very smooth and lagfree, am I right about that?
Thanks for any info.
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donharden2002 said:
I think its a simple way of letting their frustrations go. I was just doing some research on this tab as I'd like to have a nice little 7 inch carry along but not so sure about it with the locked b/l and bad viewing angles.
Is the screen as bad as it looks in videos? From what I've seen and read this thing runs very smooth and lagfree, am I right about that?
Thanks for any info.
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Theres really only 1 bad angle which is about 120 degrees towards the bottom. It gets darker. So jus flip it 180 in landscape and youre good. Left, right and top angle are great IMO. As far as speed. Here's one I posted....you be the judge....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-99O4-gmQ6E&list=UUHqepxR6_suYYKySqKxymDg&index=3&feature=plcp

The only lag I've ever experienced was when I was on the early 3.2 builds. After upgrading to the latest 3.2.1and running the custom build.prop, the only bit of lag I've seen is playing 720p video in flash and 720p software mode video on hdmi out. But my atrix had the same issue, so I think its just a limitation of stock tegra2. I resovled it on my atrix by overclocking, so if we ever find a method of running a custom kernel I think it'll be resolved.
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I have never experienced any lag whatsoever in the a100. also, i have heard so much about the viewing angles, and as aznmode said, there is only one slightly off angle and there is no reason whatsoever to have to be looking in that angle unless you just choose to do so. I have several tabs and i use the acer more than the others combined because it does everything that is needed and it is very easy to carry around. Also I have hear reviewers complain about the battery, however i can useit on and off all day long without charging and also it charges twice as fast as most. i wouldn't hesitate to purchase this tab again, i would just love to see some more development. The rom itself is very fast and extremely stable, the only real complaint that i have about the tab is that i would like to see usb host mode working. i also wanted to say thanks to crossix and all of the other devs that have put alot of work into it so far!

crossix said:
After upgrading to the latest 3.2.1and running the custom build.prop, the only bit of lag I've seen is playing 720p video in flash and 720p software mode video on hdmi out.
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What this custom build.prop is effecting on? Better performances? better battery life?
i'm on 2007.04 Gen1...

spino1970 said:
What this custom build.prop is effecting on? Better performances? better battery life?
i'm on 2007.04 Gen1...
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All of the above, you can check it out over in the dev section
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crossix said:
All of the above, you can check it out over in the dev section
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Thanx...i've installed...
Now i just need to find mode to free memory for -finally, now it is checked like an a500, compatible device- install the TinTinHD app i bought few weeks ago: it need 1.5 gb of data

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Thanx...i've installed...
Now i just need to find mode to free memory for -finally, now it is checked like an a500, compatible device- install the TinTinHD app i bought few weeks ago: it need 1.5 gb of data
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If you have a big microsd card, you could swap it with the internal memory (I really need to add direct links to these things to my signature..).

Just out of curiosity has anyone contracted koush to see if he can unlock the bootloader. On his website he says that he just needs the tablet for about a week. I know that you guys have been working on it and have made some bits of progress, but maybe a new set of eyes might be helpful. I do support for two as we got the kids some for Christmas but I need to leave them stock so they can't get into and erase stuff they need for them to run.
Don't want to step on anyone's toes or if this has already been attempted just disregard.
Thanks to the developers for their work.

crossix said:
see yah!
The locked bootloader isn't a big deal for me because the tab already does everything I want it to do. The only thing that could make this tab already better than what it is would be the unlocked bootloader that way we could look at different rom options (but to be honest the rom that's currently there isn't that bad at all). Granted it would be nice to overclock, but its already pretty fast and I haven't really had any hiccups while using it since I released the custom build.prop (except for using hdmi which I'm working on).
I think eventually we'll get some sort of work around for the bootloader working, its just a matter of time. I'm definitely not going to drop this tab though just because we don't have it figured out yet.
I do wish there was someone other than myself that's taken an interest in this tab that knows their way around custom recoverys and bootloaders since that's not one of my strong points but at least I'm trying to help.
I wont call you a sell out, but I will wish you good luck with your new device and happy modding!
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I started this thread when I was really pissed off at the A100. Between my touch screen failing and the many hours spent to get a working tun.ko on it. Due to the encrypted kernel I could not even load a kernel module.
To explain I need tun.ko and advanced routing so I can connect to a Cisco VPN for work. While waiting for my tab to be returned from service went to Best Buy and picked up the Samsung Galaxy tab plus, installed VPNC and it worked with no problem.
The A100 is a really nice device and for 90% of people it is perfect. I actually preferred the styling compared to the Samsung slab, but VPN is the reason I wanted a tab in the first place.
I wish you all good luck with cracking the bootloader.

I plan on keeping my a100 at least until I can afford a tegra 3 tab.
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painter_ said:
I started this thread when I was really pissed off at the A100. Between my touch screen failing and the many hours spent to get a working tun.ko on it. Due to the encrypted kernel I could not even load a kernel module.
To explain I need tun.ko and advanced routing so I can connect to a Cisco VPN for work. While waiting for my tab to be returned from service went to Best Buy and picked up the Samsung Galaxy tab plus, installed VPNC and it worked with no problem.
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I use remote desktop with a virtual pc setup to connect up to my works Cisco VPN and it works really well, especially when I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected up to the tab (I also use this same setup with my atrix), it works great!
I also use this same setup for one of my clients Nortel Networks VPN which doesn't work at all on android nativity. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the a100 but for the price its hard to find fault with it.

crossix said:
I use remote desktop with a virtual pc setup to connect up to my works Cisco VPN and it works really well, especially when I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected up to the tab (I also use this same setup with my atrix), it works great!
I also use this same setup for one of my clients Nortel Networks VPN which doesn't work at all on android nativity. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the a100 but for the price its hard to find fault with it.
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Agreed the price is right.
The virtual PC solution is not an option since I not only need it for RDP and VNC but also to sync my contacts, email and calendar. I was connecting to my home VPN and then jumping through to work but I need my contacts and email in somewhat a real time solution.

[Q] Switching to the Galaxy SIII (T-Mobile)?

I can't believe I'm starting such a blasphemous thread in a Nexus forum, but here it goes. Here's my short Android history to get a feel for where I'm at. I started with the HTC Sensation 4G last summer and was amazed how customizable Android was. Totally fell in love with the OS compared to iOS. Although I liked the custom roms and such, they were all the same (think sense), those that were different (AOSP/CM) all had broken stuff (bt/camera/etc). So to fix that I moved from the Sensation to the Galaxy Nexus to help quench my dev support envy. I digged the 720p display, larger screen, and no bloatware! It was hard for me to get over the 16gb internal storage though as I often keep HD movies on my phone and with all my apps that limits it to about 1 movie lol. For the past 6 months I've been struggling with storage space. I can make a CWM backup for a ROM, flash another, but before I back that up, I gotta delete the first one... You get the drift.
Then the SGS3 specs come out and it's a step up a lot of departments from the GN. Bigger screen real estate (yes, only .15" but more like .3" if you count the on screen buttons), much faster processor in the S4 chip, double the RAM (nice), better camera, bigger battery, and finally 32GB with the coveted SD card slot. So I got a 64gb card waiting to go in for a whopping 96gb's. Between both locations, I should be able to put most all of my music on my smartphone for once (I've been dying to do that since 2007) and have plenty of left over space for photos, movies, backups, etc... Oh, and the device will be HSPA+42 and in my area will be screaming fast. I get 7-9mbps down on the GN in my neighborhood and expect a ballpark of 15-25mbps down with the GSIII.
My only nagging thought is ROM support. At first, I'll just want to root and de-bloat with Titanium Backup so I can get my saved app data files transferred over from my GN. I'm sure Root will come fast, but what about REAL dev support? Do you guys think the Tmo version will essentially be the same as all other GSM S4 chipped SGSIII's? That's what I'm hoping for. Honestly, with all the bells and whistles of the SGSIII built into Touchwiz will there ever be a point where CM9 will include all that?
What I mean is this. I realized after some time with the Sensation that if you want all the manufacturer bells and whistles you gotta run a stock rom (or at least a modded Sense rom). The great thing about the Nexus is AOSP is stock. There aren't many bells and whistles. We get the added functionality from CM (or AOKP/etc...).
So, anyone think I'm making a bad move here abandoning the Nexus for Sammy's new flagship?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

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Ultimately it comes down to what you want and what you need in your phone.
If the latest GalaxyS fills that need, then that's all that matters. You will be the one using it daily.
I'm sure that what I like in my phone, and what my needs are, may be very different than the next persons. I prefer a very bare bones phone, without a lot of extra stuff added in. I like the variety of roms and kernels that are available to use with the Gnex. So, for me, the Gnex fits my needs and uses for what I want in a phone.
Being this is the Gnex forum, I'm sure there will be plenty of answers swayed to the Gnex side. (mine included)
The Galaxy SIII is a very nice phone, and one I'm sure you will be happy with.
Enjoy the new phone

Thanks. I'll have to check it out first on the store display on the 21st but I swear if it doesn't feel smooth like my CM9/Trinity combo that'll be a deal breaker!!! It has a better CPU/GPU than our GN so hopefully that's not a problem but... not all software is created equal!

It's your choice not ours. 16GB is enough for me but one man's meat is another man's poison.
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Wow, so these are the types of people that pay a "life coach" money.
good day.

chopper the dog said:
Wow, so these are the types of people that pay a "life coach" money.
good day.
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No trolling please (but I did hit your thanks button based on your signature). I'm just looking for others opinions. Bored at work

Like others said.. you seem to have it in your mind where the SIII will do exactly what you want/need, so go for it. I won't be making the switch unless it has wifi-calling.

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Like others said.. you seem to have it in your mind where the SIII will do exactly what you want/need, so go for it. I won't be making the switch unless it has wifi-calling.
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What top tier devices have Tmo released lately without it? I'm assuming it has it.

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What top tier devices have Tmo released lately without it? I'm assuming it has it.
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The only phones they have that do have it are the SII, and One S as far as top tier android phones.. I don't see any mention in it in press releases, but I did for the One S so can't be too sure.

joshnichols189 said:
The only phones they have that do have it are the SII, and One S as far as top tier android phones.. I don't see any mention in it in press releases, but I did for the One S so can't be too sure.
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They put it on (pretty much) everything. Go to their phones page (http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/) and sort the selection by "Wi-Fi Calling" in the side bar. There are dozens of options. Basically all it does is kick out the WP7 devices.
I'd bet a large sum of money that the SGSIII will have WiFi calling on T-Mobile.

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They put it on (pretty much) everything. Go to their phones page (http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/) and sort the selection by "Wi-Fi Calling" in the side bar. There are dozens of options. Basically all it does is kick out the WP7 devices.
I'd bet a large sum of money that the SGSIII will have WiFi calling on T-Mobile.
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Don't say that, I'm in love with my white nexus.
You just want to get rid of me don't you??

farfromovin said:
No trolling please (but I did hit your thanks button based on your signature). I'm just looking for others opinions. Bored at work
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Well played sir. The weaker would have taken the bait. But I'll leave my opinion. You have more of a technical insight/demand/wishes for what you expect out of a device. And as others have said it sounds like you've sold yourself already. I don't even pay attention to what processor, gfx chip or ram amount is in any given device. For me, the galaxy nexus form factor and true aosp is what I couldn't give up for a side grade considering that there is nothing more that I need/want/expect out of the galaxy nexus at this point. The sgsIII lost me with the color choices and buttons. Call me simple, but love mah navbar and what some java geeks have done with it on the galaxy nexus. The next device I look into will really have to knock my **** in the dirt and NOT have buttons on the front. May you find happiness.
good day.

So, who else is bored?

I have had nothing but Android phones (primarily) since the Nexus One originally came out. And I get bored with things real quick. I know Android is the best mobile OS at the moment but man, I am really getting bored of the same old thing every day and the new BB Z10 looks quite appealing..
Anyways, whats some stuff I could do to hopefully cure my boredness? I know about launchers but Apex, Nova and even GO all kinda look and feel the same. What are some things I could do to spruce them up a bit? I have tried new icons and slightly different arrangements but haven't had much luck.
Any ideas?

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I have had nothing but Android phones (primarily) since the Nexus One originally came out. And I get bored with things real quick. I know Android is the best mobile OS at the moment but man, I am really getting bored of the same old thing every day and the new BB Z10 looks quite appealing..
Anyways, whats some stuff I could do to hopefully cure my boredness? I know about launchers but Apex, Nova and even GO all kinda look and feel the same. What are some things I could do to spruce them up a bit? I have tried new icons and slightly different arrangements but haven't had much luck.
Any ideas?
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if your into designing and artistic stuff...go to mycolorscreen.com and check out some of their homescreens...you can find tutorials or draw inspiration from some of the pages
i often get bored when things settle and i dont flash a rom (with a purpose-new features etc..) or change the look of my homescreens for a while too

I feel the same way. Right now I have my phone exactly the way I want and the things I want running Jedi Masters 10:
1. Free hotspot tethering
2. Working Google Wallet
3. Wifi calling
4. Great speed and good battery life
5. some tweaks like auto-correct samsung keyboard, s-pen keyboard switcher (don't use)
I pretty much don't have anything else I need. The only thing I haven't done is update to the latest LTE firmware. I'm thinking about flashing the new Frosty rom, but it's missing the samsung and google wallet features. I'm sure I can just manually get these features in by tweaking but am just too lazy.
So kinda boring here but in a good way.
I think if you get the z10, it'll give you that couple of weeks of freshness and after that you'll need something new again...that's just the way it is.

fandroid93 said:
I have had nothing but Android phones (primarily) since the Nexus One originally came out. And I get bored with things real quick. I know Android is the best mobile OS at the moment but man, I am really getting bored of the same old thing every day and the new BB Z10 looks quite appealing..
Anyways, whats some stuff I could do to hopefully cure my boredness? I know about launchers but Apex, Nova and even GO all kinda look and feel the same. What are some things I could do to spruce them up a bit? I have tried new icons and slightly different arrangements but haven't had much luck.
Any ideas?
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Try searching outside the mobile realm, pursue a degree, meet new friends, I mean it's only so much texting, emails, phone calls, and mobile apps can get
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jdiddy_ub said:
if your into designing and artistic stuff...go to mycolorscreen.com and check out some of their homescreens...you can find tutorials or draw inspiration from some of the pages
i often get bored when things settle and i dont flash a rom (with a purpose-new features etc..) or change the look of my homescreens for a while too
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Yeah I never noticed they had a section just for tutorials. I'll definitely check that out, thanks.
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I feel the same way. Right now I have my phone exactly the way I want and the things I want running Jedi Masters 10:
1. Free hotspot tethering
2. Working Google Wallet
3. Wifi calling
4. Great speed and good battery life
5. some tweaks like auto-correct samsung keyboard, s-pen keyboard switcher (don't use)
I pretty much don't have anything else I need. The only thing I haven't done is update to the latest LTE firmware. I'm thinking about flashing the new Frosty rom, but it's missing the samsung and google wallet features. I'm sure I can just manually get these features in by tweaking but am just too lazy.
So kinda boring here but in a good way.
I think if you get the z10, it'll give you that couple of weeks of freshness and after that you'll need something new again...that's just the way it is.
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Yeah that pretty much sums it up for me too, everything is working 100% properly with no bugs but I just want something different. Back in my HTC days I'd probably be bunny hopping between CM and Sense right now lol. But then again, not everything would be working and there would be tons of bugs so..
bipoler said:
Try searching outside the mobile realm, pursue a degree, meet new friends, I mean it's only so much texting, emails, phone calls, and mobile apps can get
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That is 100% true. No matter what a phone will always be a phone and we have other things to worry about then whats in our pocket.

Damn im bored aswell... why I change phones every 6 months on to the s4 ...
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Not me, android will never bore me. My first smart phone was obviously the first iPhone, and that was boring as hell. I love android and this phone is the best I've ever used, every time I use it, I love it.
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go outside and do something? get a hobby? read a book? go pick up on broads?

I guess I should have been more specific, I am bored with the Android. Not bored with my life. Thanks does the suggestions though, bigexpansion.

never bored with my android
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Can't go wrong with some fantasy role playing. Buy your note a nice nurse case...

fandroid93 said:
I guess I should have been more specific, I am bored with the Android. Not bored with my life. Thanks does the suggestions though, bigexpansion.
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go outside and do something? get a hobby? read a book? go pick up on broads? xD
seriously though. own the phone. don't let the phone own you.

About to pull the trigger on the T-mobile Note 3

I am about to buy this phone by this afternoon. I am coming from a Nexus 4. My reasons are as follows:
1. Need faster speeds (LTE).
2. Want an AMOLED screen
3. Need better battery life than what I have now
I fully intend to root this device and put CM 11 on it.
Please let me know what are the negatives that I'm in for. I've read some things, but nothing definitive that someone can point out. It would be much appreciated for those who actually have the phone to chime in and let me know what shortcomings you have with it so that I can ensure I'm making a sound decision.
Thanks as always!

You will catch hell from jealous people about the screen size, that's it. Enjoy this awesome phone!

Jfree3000 said:
You will catch hell from jealous people about the screen size, that's it. Enjoy this awesome phone!
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Good one!
Do you have the phone? What negative experiences can you tell me about it?

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I fully intend to root this device and put CM 11 on it.
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If you have a choice between...
EDIT: Disregard the previous content - I was confusing my 900T and my 900V.
Frank

Frank Westlake said:
If you have a choice between Android 4.3 and 4.4.x it might be better to get 4.3. From 4.3 you would be able to load an unauthorized 4.4.2 which has more potential then the authotized 4.4.2.
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Sorry, I'm not following. I read some things about a newer bootloader which sort of screwed things up. Is that what you are referring to?

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Sorry, I'm not following.
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Disregard - I edited my previous message.
Frank

Can't really think of any negatives. The Note 3 is a great phone. One negative you might get from someone is that the Amoled screens are notorious for having burn in. I have yet to experience this and haven't seen any reports of it on the Note 3. I don't think it's anything to worry about and I'm sure Samsung made sure the display on the Note 3 is top notch.
I just thought of a negative actually: in my opinion, the display is a bit over saturated, but it's not too bad.

Liquorsicc92 said:
Can't really think of any negatives. The Note 3 is a great phone. One negative you might get from someone is that the Amoled screens are notorious for having burn in. I have yet to experience this and haven't seen any reports of it on the Note 3. I don't think it's anything to worry about and I'm sure Samsung made sure the display on the Note 3 is top notch.
I just thought of a negative actually: in my opinion, the display is a bit over saturated, but it's not too bad.
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Would you guys say that CM11 is stable enough in its nightly form to be used as a daily driver?
And believe it or not, my Nexus 4 has temporary burn-in even though it's an IPS screen, while my old SGS 3 which is an AMOLED did NOT have any burn in.

ajm786 said:
Would you guys say that CM11 is stable enough in its nightly form to be used as a daily driver?
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Haven't ran CM in a while. I feel I get a much more out of the phone on stock rom (with Google Now launcher and some Wanam Xposed modding)
but to answer your question, yes CM11 is very stable on the note 3 other than NFC not working. Unfortunately, you wont find any AOSP rom at this moment for the Note 3 that has NFC working. I can't really say if the latest CM11 nightlies are stable or not because I haven't ran CM in a while but there is the M5 build which I can tell you is stable. You can check the "official CM nighties" thread in the development section for more solid impute.
To make my answer more strait forward, CM11 nightless have always been stable enough for daily drivers (when I ran them) but I can't confirm that the latest builds are stable because I'm not running CM. Sorry if I'm confusing lol

ajm786 said:
Good one!
Do you have the phone? What negative experiences can you tell me about it?
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Yes I do have a note 3. Best phone I have owned, no regrets, no negatives to me at least.
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Jfree3000 said:
Yes I do have a note 3. Best phone I have owned, no regrets, no negatives to me at least.
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Awesome. Just bought the phone a few minutes ago. Can't wait!

ajm786 said:
Awesome. Just bought the phone a few minutes ago. Can't wait!
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Enjoy bud!!!
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ajm786 said:
Awesome. Just bought the phone a few minutes ago. Can't wait!
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Sorry, I just really don't believe in CM on the Note. Other phones for sure. But not on the Note. Putting CM on the Note is like buying a BMW and replacing the entire car with after market. You don't get all the Sammy stuff that this phone was built for. There's alot of gimmicky stuff that nobody (well I don't) use, but there are some fundamental things that are built into TW like note app, and things like that. Using CM i have been able to get all that functionality back, but using alot of 3rd party apps that just don't work as smoothly. My big thing is Sammy trying to make you use it's apps and not giving you the option to map buttons, flicks, blah blah, with other apps like google search.
All in all it comes down to what you prefer and what makes you happy. Very good phone with premium build and specs.

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Sorry, I just really don't believe in CM on the Note. Other phones for sure. But not on the Note. Putting CM on the Note is like buying a BMW and replacing the entire car with after market. You don't get all the Sammy stuff that this phone was built for. There's alot of gimmicky stuff that nobody (well I don't) use, but there are some fundamental things that are built into TW like note app, and things like that. Using CM i have been able to get all that functionality back, but using alot of 3rd party apps that just don't work as smoothly. My big thing is Sammy trying to make you use it's apps and not giving you the option to map buttons, flicks, blah blah, with other apps like google search.
All in all it comes down to what you prefer and what makes you happy. Very good phone with premium build and specs.
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I really appreciate the input.
I'm not too interested in all the gimmicks Samsung put on the phone to begin with. Even if I just get a phone with a big screen with CM11, as basic as it sounds, that'd be good enough for me.

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Sorry, I just really don't believe in CM on the Note. Other phones for sure. But not on the Note. Putting CM on the Note is like buying a BMW and replacing the entire car with after market. You don't get all the Sammy stuff that this phone was built for. There's alot of gimmicky stuff that nobody (well I don't) use, but there are some fundamental things that are built into TW like note app, and things like that. Using CM i have been able to get all that functionality back, but using alot of 3rd party apps that just don't work as smoothly. My big thing is Sammy trying to make you use it's apps and not giving you the option to map buttons, flicks, blah blah, with other apps like google search.
All in all it comes down to what you prefer and what makes you happy. Very good phone with premium build and specs.
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I agree. The Note 3 really doesn't have any lag with the TW launcher (though i use Nova Prime) anymore and I use the Stylus and like some of the features it has. To me it's like neutering the phone removing the Spen functionality. Why buy the phone and remove a lot of the point of buying it? Plus TW has grown on me, the UI of CM is so bland it looks like a kids project. I used to use CM on my Bionic but ever since they went commercial and became Cyanogen Inc. i will not use CM anymore, not after what they pulled on developers where they basically stole a lot of the work that individuals did and let CM use to help polish their OS and didn't even at least give credit in most cases, like CM designed it.

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I agree. The Note 3 really doesn't have any lag with the TW launcher (though i use Nova Prime) anymore and I use the Stylus and like some of the features it has. To me it's like neutering the phone removing the Spen functionality. Why buy the phone and remove a lot of the point of buying it? Plus TW has grown on me, the UI of CM is so bland it looks like a kids project. I used to use CM on my Bionic but ever since they went commercial and became Cyanogen Inc. i will not use CM anymore, not after what they pulled on developers where they basically stole a lot of the work that individuals did and let CM use to help polish their OS and didn't even at least give credit in most cases, like CM designed it.
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Yeah. Alot of us were kinda perved about CM doing that, but in return, they gave us "MOUNDS" of stuff to work with. So it's kinda a win , win. Plus Koush works tireslessly still to help out both the forum and the community. So i feel like, whatever lil tweak i announced on here over the years, these guys probably already knew about. Love the XDA community.

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Yeah. Alot of us were kinda perved about CM doing that, but in return, they gave us "MOUNDS" of stuff to work with. So it's kinda a win , win. Plus Koush works tireslessly still to help out both the forum and the community. So i feel like, whatever lil tweak i announced on here over the years, these guys probably already knew about. Love the XDA community.
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Exactly. This is true. I'm not tied to the hip with CM, but they just update a lot more frequently. Honestly, any ROM that gives me the flexibility that CM does, I'd be cool with.

I'm with you guys about cm on the note, it was great on previous devices but it just doesn't do the note line any justice. With the specs these notes come with even the bloat fest that is TouchWiz runs flawlessly, I use both adw ex & nova prime myself for a slimmer and more customizable experience but honestly the stock tw launcher is much improved since it's first showing back on the original galaxy s phones.
You buy a note 3 for its beast like specs, it's premium quality sized screen and s-pen. Only people with tiny hands can claim they prefer an HTC one m7/m8. Don't even get me started about build quality on HTC since people will just put a plastic case over it anyways defeating the purpose. Besides note line have proven to be the real game changers when it comes to cutting edge performance and specs, I was yawning over all the other devices that were struggling to keep up with our note 3 lol
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Yeah. Alot of us were kinda perved about CM doing that, but in return, they gave us "MOUNDS" of stuff to work with. So it's kinda a win , win. Plus Koush works tireslessly still to help out both the forum and the community. So i feel like, whatever lil tweak i announced on here over the years, these guys probably already knew about. Love the XDA community.
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Yeah I can see and understand where you're coming from. I know Koush does a lot for the community but that bothered me a bit. Plus the note takes a step back with CM in my opinion so i haven't even been keeping up with CM actually.

[Q] About to upgrade Note 8; seeking advice / opinions from owners please :)

Hey everyone, I'm right on the verge of upgrading my current Galaxy Note 8 (SGH P5110 - wifi variant) to this device (the T-mobile lte variant), so I've been frantically searching this forum to make sure it was a reasonable upgrade and what the deal with the Tmo variant was, so I just wanted to clarify a few things I've learned so far, and just ask for opinions from xda members who own this device.
This "opportunity" came about rather unexpectedly, but in addition to the hardware upgrade, purchasing this tablet would have several additional significant benefits, to the point where cost is barely an issue (it will end up costing me next to nothing, if I don't actually make a little money on the deal). It's for this reason that if I were to go for an upgrade right now, it would have to be this device and it would have to be from T-mobile. The whole situation is kind of complex and super ridiculous, and even my hardest attempt to explain it briefly was getting out of hand... I'll edit this post and add it on tomorrow probably and those who don't care can easily skip it (probably a recommendation that also applies to "satisfied" AT&T customers, but then again, it's one of those "Yeah, I know. They actually pull that sort of thing regularly," so perhaps a PSA )
Anyway, to be honest, this tablet wouldn't really be on the "consideration" list if I was just looking for a new tablet... I'd at least wait to find out about the Nexus 9 if that were the case. However, upgrading my phone at some point is a much higher priority vs. tablet, despite the fact that it is pretty near to the "time" for one... I've been happy with the Note 8, and fortunately there were some very talented developers who worked on it, but not unlike your tablet, it was never really promoted by T-Mobile and never had a huge user-base. So this is pretty much my opportunity for a tablet upgrade, where I not to do it, I really can't say when I'd be able to retire the Note 8 (similar to internals of S3 despite being released around the time of the S4), however, the Note 10 does seem like it would be an extremely solid upgrade from the Note 8 so I just want to ask a few questions just to make sure I wouldn't really regret it on any level.
Ok, so the tablet sold by T-Mobile has the model number P607t, but it's really just a carrier branded P605 and compatible with the same ROMS as that device? If that's not the case / just to make sure: you can relatively easily gain full root (i.e. custom ROM, kernel, recovery)? Last, are there problems / issues / differences (aside from chipset) that make it inferior to the P605 or P600?
That's really all I just want to be sure of before pulling the trigger. Basic stuff, I know, but this was totally unexpected and don't have the luxury of time to do as much research as I'd like prior to deciding, so if anyone would be kind enough to address my impressions above, I'd be beyond grateful :good: Also any thoughts on the device sold by Tmo, or the upgrade from the P5110 to what looks to be a very nice device (despite how quickly Samsung stole the "super premium" label off of it) would be most welcome as well.
Hopefully I'm not mistaken regarding the info I've gleaned, and will soon have a new toy in hand. If that works out, I'll undoubtedly be spending much more time on this corner of XDA. Thanks much in advance

Any 10 inch tablet is better than a 8 inch screen...Go with the 2014 Note.....best tab out for the money...
I just rooted my gf p607t....Towelroot
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
Any 10 inch tablet is better than a 8 inch screen...Go with the 2014 Note.....best tab out for the money...
I just rooted my gf p607t....Towelroot
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Wait, the T-Mobile version works with towelroot without tripping KNOX?

I'm watching this thread because I am 95% in the same situation.

You will love the tablet thats a gaurantee however don't expect Android L or whatever the next updates is going to be anytime soon.
But yeah no tablet like it at the minute ... I use my tablet every single day for atleast 3hours a day. I actually gave away my laptop to my brother as the tablet is faster and more convenient in every way (bar typing lol). Anyhoo hope yous make the right choice...but like I said be prepared tonwait for updates haha.

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I'm watching this thread because I am 95% in the same situation.
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Not a bad situation to be in Thanks for the confirmation / encouragement. I'd definitely agree that 10.5 inchers are preferable, particularly for a Note 3 owner, unless the 8" in question is easily root/ROMable and 10.1, despite being a very significant upgrade across the board (will go from looking at an 8" 1600X1200(!) screen to this absolute beauty) it's ridiculously locked down, bootloader etc, and basically you need to run it straight stock, unable to even remove worthless pre-installed malware.... Were that the case, despite the fact that financially, etc. it really doesn't make sense to not do it, I'd still rather stick with my customized Note 8. The unbreakable rule is: if I'm prevented from viewing every file on a device that I own (i.e. root directory obviously), well, that would never happen because no matter how tempting otherwise, I wouldn't under any circumstances get that device. I think that framing the issue of locked bootloader, etc. and forcing users to jump through hoops to attain that level of access is a good way to clarify just how flat-out silly the issue is at its core when explaining to, ya know, people (i.e. those weirdos that don't even have one Linux partiton ) why that's an issue that they 'should care' about.
So... bit of a tirade on a tangent there but that's at the front of my mind when purchasing hardware, so glad to hear that there won't be any unpleasant surprises when picking up a new device. So really appreciate the encouragement to go ahead with it as well as confirmation of my expectation that it'll be a fantastic upgrade!
Very excited to get my new tablet... maybe today! Going to start downloading files to flash in prep I've been scouring the internet for an ideal case (something slim but protective with an open from, ideally a tempered glass screen cover built in) but have noticed that options are relatively slim... Was considering just going with an Otterbox Defender, but I really don't want to add that width much with to the beautifully slim bezel. No bout I'll find something I like though. Looking forward to learning about and discussing my new hardware with you all!

Geordie Affy said:
You will love the tablet thats a gaurantee however don't expect Android L or whatever the next updates is going to be anytime soon.
But yeah no tablet like it at the minute ... I use my tablet every single day for atleast 3hours a day. I actually gave away my laptop to my brother as the tablet is faster and more convenient in every way (bar typing lol). Anyhoo hope yous make the right choice...but like I said be prepared tonwait for updates haha.
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Right on! I can deal with the update situation, as long as at least a couple solid, actively developed custom ROMS to improve the (shudder) stock experience. I stick with TW base on Note's typically, so my next stop is the devdb to give it a more thorough review. That is definitely a good point re: official updates (i.e. lack thereof) but the device I'm coming from is a Note 8... my "official update" expectations really couldn't be lower :victory:

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Right on! I can deal with the update situation, as long as at least a couple solid, actively developed custom ROMS to improve the (shudder) stock experience. I stick with TW base on Note's typically, so my next stop is the devdb to give it a more thorough review. That is definitely a good point re: official updates (i.e. lack thereof) but the device I'm coming from is a Note 8... my "official update" expectations really couldn't be lower :victory:
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Ah yeah you have Note 8 lol so really you have been set to the perfect standard to buy the Note 10.1 in terms of updates haha.

I couldn't find much info whether there is no KNOX tripping root for the P607. That's the only thing holding me back.
I had the Wi-Fi version and I really, really like it. Unfortunately, I had returned it because there was no root that won't trip Knox and I need root to disable the bloatware that is killing the battery and slowing down the tablet. There are a few thread I posted where I show screenshot of the battery life when the tablet is idle.
But you may not care about root, so go forth and get this tablet![emoji12]