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I had a ton of text message threads in Handcent.. Just rebooted my phone like I do all the time. And all of a sudden they were gone! I tried to do a data restore from Titanium but that never seems to work for texts
Not the end of the world.. Just curios as to why it happened..
I have read before that sometimes HC will FC if too many messages are present on a thread, I guess this could be qualified as another side effect for a database that has become way too large for HC to handle.
This just happened to me again. After a manual reboot.. ALL of my text messages are gone. They're gone from the stock messaging app too so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I did a Google search and see other people are having this problem as well with just the stock messaging app. Any ideas on a fix? I'm missing some important text messages.... ugh..
Just noticed my saved wireless networks are gone after the reboot as well....
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thenags said:
This just happened to me again. After a manual reboot.. ALL of my text messages are gone. They're gone from the stock messaging app too so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I did a Google search and see other people are having this problem as well with just the stock messaging app. Any ideas on a fix? I'm missing some important text messages.... ugh..
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I can't help you with the root cause of the problem - I've never had it happen to me but a couple of friends have (all msgs wiped).
If the messages are missing from Handcent, they will also be missing from the stock app - there's no difference because the messages are (or should be) in the same place and you're just choosing to view/send them with Handcent or the stock app (or another of your choosing).
I CAN, however, help you try to minimize the effects of this happening in the future, as well as keep multiple records of your SMS...
I use two apps, together. The first one, called SMS Backup & Restore, by developer Ritesh Sahu has been a god send for me. You can backup all your messages and restore them, fully - it even gets the conversation threads in the right order by date upon recovery. In addition to manual backups, you can schedule backups.
While backing up is fast, I have to warn you that deleting all current messages (if you have a lot) and restoring them can take time. Restoring them, however, shows you a status bar so you can track its progress while deleting them just says "deleting" and you never know how long it will be. (The same dev also has a sister program for phone call logs - it's lightning fast and just as reliable/effective).
The other app I use is called "SMS Backup" by dev Christoph Studer (if you have trouble finding either of these in the market, look them up by searching for the dev's names). What this app does is work quietly in the background to send / upload your SMS to your Gmail. You can set which label you want to apply to them in Gmail, and then in Gmail set a filter to have them skip right over your inbox. This app also lets you have them appear as read when they are uploaded. All in all, you never even realize it's working and your Gmail will never be the wiser, until you have to refer back to an old SMS - maybe a phone number or address or some other vital info sent to you over text... and you can just go and find it at that time safely recorded in your Gmail.
I hope that helps!
Best of luck. If you're having trouble beyond disappearing texts, you may have other more serious underlying issues...
The problem with the backup apps are obviously I need to run them. Who thinks to do a backup prior to doing nothing more than a reboot?! It's crazy that the phone just deletes them on it's own. Searching on Google shows that this problem is wayyyy too common.
thenags said:
The problem with the backup apps are obviously I need to run them. Who thinks to do a backup prior to doing nothing more than a reboot?! It's crazy that the phone just deletes them on it's own. Searching on Google shows that this problem is wayyyy too common.
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who will do backups on a regular basis? folks that have lost data in the past. the more significant the loss, the better their backup habits.
i do backups. it seems the previous poster does. heck, i bet you start doing backups too.
the more you work with technology the more likely you are to ensure that your important data is at least duplicated. things like pictures, audio, video, text should be considered. this goes for desktops, laptops, netbooks, phones, etc. if it stores data, runs an OS and a users interacts with it...it will fail eventually.
sms backup works quite nicely. i found it after i lost my text messgs once.
I run Titanium every single night by schedule and nandroid every other night. I also have automated backups on all my PC's. But I send and recieve at least 1000 texts a day.. So when my texts randomly delete themselves at 5pm.... A backup made at 2am does me no good for my text messages....
Then modify your backup routine. I your backups won't recover your data...you are using the wrong tool. Sms backup can backup every X hrs.
Trust me..there is always a way to protect data that you find important.
I agree, the app shouldn't erase your data.
you can complain and cry....or...complain and recover.
The choice is solely up to you.
Good luck.
I back up all of my texts to my gmail, makes for great searching!
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Then modify your backup routine. I your backups won't recover your data...you are using the wrong tool. Sms backup can backup every X hrs.
Trust me..there is always a way to protect data that you find important.
I agree, the app shouldn't erase your data.
you can complain and cry....or...complain and recover.
The choice is solely up to you.
Good luck.
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Where is the option to backup every X hours? I've been through the settingss several times and don't see it
I've been using Handcent for 1.5 years now with no issue but just saw this with a customer who has the Thunderbolt. All messages are gone and she was not on the latest version which is 3.9 now. I've got 3.82 on my Evo so I'm going to leave it there till I know what's going on with this.
How would you recover your sms with Titanium Backup?
is that something possible or we have to use something else?
thanks
I was wondering that too. I have the paid version, love it, but I thought I backed up the messages as well. Apperently not though.
Did I miss the setting?
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There's a free program in the market that I used to back up and restore my SMS called SMS Backup & Restore (by Ritesh Sahu)
I've had no problems with SMS Backup+ from the market - it stores the texts and MMS to your Gmail and allows for backup and restore. Makes it real simple.
Titanium does backup the SMS data, but I don't remember where it does, and on my myTouch3G 1.2 it was kind of buggy restoring it (though it mostly works). I think it's the data from Dialer Storage 2.2 that houses the SMS/MMS?
Handcent now backups sms/mms
I used to use SMS backup from above post, but it wasnt able to do mms' (at that time) so I tried Mybackuppro (in the market) and it works perfect. plus it does other backups too. I ended up buying it.
I used to have problems with Titanium with sms/mms, but I havent tried any recent versions.
I use MyPhoneExplorer. It syncs everything on your phone to your PC.
this could be outdated info now, but when i used titanium backup to backup sms/mms, it would make a backup of the phone dialer and the associated files from /system. This is not the best way to backup the sms's since a new rom may have made modifications to this.
i recommend sms backup and restore, which is what i use myself. titanium backup is great for apps and app data though!
Sorry for bumping and old thread but this brings up a question. Would any of these be able to create a backup of your SMS/MMS and convert them over to a text file of some sort so you can print up records of them? I remember when I had a Blackberry I used to be able to do this with software I purchased for it. This would be a great feature I would be interested in using. I tried searching for something that discussed this but came up with nothing. Sorry if its been covered before. Thanks in advance.
To back up texts just make a back up of Dialer Storage [SMS/MMS] and restore.
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I think marvzuno wants something that can backup AND convert the message to a text file to be read on a computer or something, not only a backup...
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flak0 said:
To back up texts just make a back up of Dialer Storage [SMS/MMS] and restore.
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I'm looking for something more like the poster below was talking about. Thanks for the info though. This will be useful just for the backup process.
daaango said:
I think marvzuno wants something that can backup AND convert the message to a text file to be read on a computer or something, not only a backup...
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Yes, Something that would convert the backup file into something I would be able to view on a computer. ANy suggestions or ideas on this?
I'd like to put in my vote for SMSBackup+. The restore feature doesn't always work perfectly, but the backup has never failed me. stores it as plain text in your gmail, which is then searcheable.
Love SMS Backup+, saves them to Gmail and can also pull them back to the device as other people have said, works great, no issues!
So I've been going a little flash crazy lately and I noticed I accidentally used SMS Backup and Restore a few times without clicking to check for duplicates. Now I've got LOADS of messages available 5+ times!
Is there any app I can use to remove all these duplicate messages instantly?
Solution: Using the same app, SMS Backup and Restore, the app will scan for dups in its backups and only restore 1 copy of the SMS if you use the check for dups feature while restoring.
same issue here
Using the said application to check for duplicate while restoring can do the trick?
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Too late now. The app checks if the SMS in the backup already exists in your SMS inbox. If it's there, then it won't copy it over. But since the SMS is already in the backup 5 times, it'll restore it 5 times.
I'm having the same issue.
Yann2011 said:
Using the said application to check for duplicate while restoring can do the trick?
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Actually you were right. It even checks the backup for duplicates and only restores one of the dups. That is the solution, in case anyone was wondering.
Whats everyone using? Titanium oe another add?
Last I checked titanium doesn't offer that. So I use SMS backup and restore.
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xxprodigyxx11 said:
Last I checked titanium doesn't offer that. So I use SMS backup and restore.
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Doesn't do MMS though.
So use SMS Backup+ as everybody else does.
i use mybackup pro. it does call logs and mms restore. really simple to use too.
Actually guys, Titanium Backup Pro DOES offer it, you guys just don't know which system app to backup.
I use TB to backup and restore between roms, since it take less than 30 seconds, a reboot, and all the messages show up. If I use an app, such as SMS Backup/Restore, it takes a long time compared to TB, but I still back up messages in both apps nonetheless.
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Actually guys, Titanium Backup Pro DOES offer it, you guys just don't know which system app to backup.
I use TB to backup and restore between roms, since it take less than 30 seconds, a reboot, and all the messages show up. If I use an app, such as SMS Backup/Restore, it takes a long time compared to TB, but I still back up messages in both apps nonetheless.
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So which system app is it? Thanks!
You need to be careful using Titanium on System apps. I used to do this, but found that doing so would sometimes break ability to download MMS (Even when moving to newer version of same ROM). Depending on Phone/ROM i use MyBackupPro or SMS Backup & Restore. Usually use MyBackupPro first as it'll do MMS/SMS/Phone Log, but I've had it where on some phones it doesn't restore the timestamp correctly on the new phone. If that's the case, just use it for MMS/Phone Log, and use SMS Backup & Restore for the SMS. It's always worked.
iboj007 said:
So which system app is it? Thanks!
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Its this system app.
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[SMS/MMS/APN] Phone/Messaging Storage 4.0.x-eng etc.
For call history, if anyone is interested, is
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[CONTACTS/CALLS] Contacts Storage 4.0.x-eng etc
lordgodgeneral said:
You need to be careful using Titanium on System apps. I used to do this, but found that doing so would sometimes break ability to download MMS (Even when moving to newer version of same ROM). Depending on Phone/ROM i use MyBackupPro or SMS Backup & Restore. Usually use MyBackupPro first as it'll do MMS/SMS/Phone Log, but I've had it where on some phones it doesn't restore the timestamp correctly on the new phone. If that's the case, just use it for MMS/Phone Log, and use SMS Backup & Restore for the SMS. It's always worked.
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Never happened to me, I've done this since the Samsung Vibrant days and never had a problem unless the Android version was different. Ie, 2.2 vs 2.3
These are the only two system apps I EVER restore btw, I manually configure everything else.
i don't use TB for SMS/MMS/logs.. i use MyBackup root/pro.. simple and it does the job
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i don't use TB for SMS/MMS/logs.. i use MyBackup root/pro.. simple and it does the job
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I tried mybackup root/pro for SMS/MMS when migrating from the Nexus S to the Galaxy Nexus but didn't have good results. Everything got timestamped to the date of restore.
iboj007 said:
I tried mybackup root/pro for SMS/MMS when migrating from the Nexus S to the Galaxy Nexus but didn't have good results. Everything got timestamped to the date of restore.
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actually, i just did backup from galaxy s to nexus, and i can confirm that all timestamps on sms and mms imported perfectly, mybackup pro, not rooted.
I'm tired of losing all my messages every time i flash a new rom. How can i take them with me? I'm on miui at the moment. I figured i could save them to my SIM but miui doesn't seem to have the option. Can tibu back then up?
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Ends said:
I'm tired of losing all my messages every time i flash a new rom. How can i take them with me? I'm on miui at the moment. I figured i could save them to my SIM but miui doesn't seem to have the option. Can tibu back then up?
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Not sure about titanium, I don't think so though. I use sms backup and restore. Has worked flawlessly for me every time.
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Titanium does not backup SMS messages, these are stored in a database, i forget where off the top of my head but shouldn't be hard to find in the forums. You can manually copy this database before a rom flash and copy back afterwards, or back them up online using an app. There are atleast a handful, personally i use SMS Backup + by Jan Berkel. This creates an SMS folder to you gmail account and backs up the each sms indivdually to gmail which makes searching for a buried text a snap, and also allows you to access any message that has already been backed up from anywhere with access to gmail. Did i mention its free .
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Titanium does not backup SMS messages, these are stored in a database, i forget where off the top of my head but shouldn't be hard to find in the forums. You can manually copy this database before a rom flash and copy back afterwards, or back them up online using an app. There are atleast a handful, personally i use SMS Backup + by Jan Berkel. This creates an SMS folder to you gmail account and backs up the each sms indivdually to gmail which makes searching for a buried text a snap, and also allows you to access any message that has already been backed up from anywhere with access to gmail. Did i mention its free .
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Agree...SMS Backup+ has been the best option for me as well. Works very well and like he said, its free!
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I found this in another thread regarding pulling SMS messages from a phone, although i haven't confirmed this is the correct (or only) location of the SMS database.
"You can get the sms database from /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases"
I use My Backup Root to save SMS/MMS and call log messages before a flash. It has the capability to back up apps too, but TiBu does a better job on apps.
I use My Backup also. I liked it enough I bought the pro version. Use it every flash for SMS, call log, bookmarks, apps and there data. The free version does all this. The pro version allows you to restore backups to a different phone, only difference between free and paid versions. One quirk I've found is that restoring apps and data you have to do apps, reboot, then restore app data. Other than that its great.
SMSBackup+ for me... never had a problem with it.
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I use My Backup also. I liked it enough I bought the pro version. Use it every flash for SMS, call log, bookmarks, apps and there data. The free version does all this. The pro version allows you to restore backups to a different phone, only difference between free and paid versions. One quirk I've found is that restoring apps and data you have to do apps, reboot, then restore app data. Other than that its great.
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I use titanium backup and works perfect for sms and mms. Hit the menu button and select backup data to xml and select the sms option. Also works great for call log backup. To restore just hit menu and select restore from xml.
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I was not aware of this, although i do like having my sms's backed up to gmail this is good to know.
The Titanium Backup option sounds good, I didn't know that..
But I use SMS Backup either way.. 60% of the time, it works everytime..
Yeah, TiBu does back up mms and sms messages, I have used the restore and backup many times and its has worked perfectly every time.
Thanks for the replies guys. I personally like the tibu option. As long as I've had the app, i never knew it did that. Tibu is a must have. So it's best to use it beings you've already got it. I'm one that prefers not to have dozens of apps downloaded. I get by as simple as possible. I checked on some of the recommendations and some of them don't backup mms. Thanks for everything guys
Thanks for everyone. :cheers:
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Hi,
Titanium even allows to batch the backup of SMS/MMS, but also Call logs, Bluetooth associations and WLAN networks in XML. It even syncs the backup to Dropbox.
A must have as far as I am concerned when often flashing new ROMs.
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I use a app called SMS back up and restore And another called call logs back up and restore. They will save to either internal or external card. Great app. Doesn't same pic messages though
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MonitorMonkey said:
Agree...SMS Backup+ has been the best option for me as well. Works very well and like he said, its free!
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I use this also, works like a char
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