i recently noticed backlight bleed at the bottom right of the screen with the help of backlight bleed test. I am not really worried since its in the bottom of the screen but should i be worried? Is that an indicator of future problems?
Po678 said:
i recently noticed backlight bleed at the bottom right of the screen with the help of backlight bleed test. I am not really worried since its in the bottom of the screen but should i be worried? Is that an indicator of future problems?
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Some early builds had some nasty back light bleed that people posted pics of that, if you had the same thing, you wouldn't be asking what to do you'd know. I checked mine early on and at 100% brightness on a black background in a dark room I have some in the bottom right too. Since the odds of me looking at the display at 100% brightness in a dark room are pretty slim and it doesn't affect real world use I wouldn't exchange my otherwise perfect tablet for one that may be worse. I don't think any back lit LCD panel could pass the 100% brightness in a dark room test.
BarryH_GEG said:
Some early builds had some nasty back light bleed that people posted pics of that, if you had the same thing, you wouldn't be asking what to do you'd know. I checked mine early on and at 100% brightness on a black background in a dark room I have some in the bottom right too. Since the odds of me looking at the display at 100% brightness in a dark room are pretty slim and it doesn't affect real world use I wouldn't exchange my otherwise perfect tablet for one that may be worse. I don't think any back lit LCD panel could pass the 100% brightness in a dark room test.
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Hmmm that makes sense....I got a moto g which has backlight bleed on its top :/ so i guess its common for all devices :/ wish there was a fix
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I just bought this tablet and everything is going well, but ... my question is if the pictures herein may be cause for concern:
1. when the screen is in blaco or light colors. (black or dark colored this fault disappears).
2. with 0% brightness, 50% the fault disappears.
3. always appear in the bottom of the screen (right side photo1, photo 2 and 3 bottom).
thank you very much.
jorrg said:
I just bought this tablet and everything is going well, but ... my question is if the pictures herein may be cause for concern:
1. when the screen is in blaco or light colors. (black or dark colored this fault disappears).
2. with 0% brightness, 50% the fault disappears.
3. always appear in the bottom of the screen (right side photo1, photo 2 and 3 bottom).
thank you very much.
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I'm pretty sure they all do it. Must be an edge lit screen. I'm not bothered as 0% brightness isn't a realistic usage condition.
I think mine is improving anyway. Wondered if it was caused by that part of the screen normally being black ( nav buttons) in portrait mode.
All screens have problems , e.g. amoled has better blacks but uneven brightness, horrible colour and loses brightness over time.
If it makes you feel better, the iPad mini retinas suffer more screen problems and they cost twice as much ( backlight bleed and poor colour gamut)
Yes I have had 2 units and this is something I have seen this device suffers from, my second unit is an improvement over the first one, but still has backlighting issues.
Yeah, mine has this funny issue where if you squeeze it really hard, the screen makes funny colors. I'm on my 18th unit and they all do this.
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mustbepbs said:
Yeah, mine has this funny issue where if you squeeze it really hard, the screen makes funny colors. I'm on my 18th unit and they all do this.
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That made me laugh just little bit out loud.
gman16000 said:
That made me laugh just little bit out loud.
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It's funny because it's true. People complain about anything and everything. Who uses their tablet at 0% brightness anyway? No device is perfect as they're manufactured.
I got my HTC One recently (last Friday) and it was a perfect phone! no problems whatsoever...
Yesterday i was playing with the phone with a colourful background wallpaper from HTC and i noticed light bleeding from the top (hold it in a angle and you can see a light bar shine through like this:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/at...een-issues-uploadfromtaptalk1367129491252.jpg
It isn't that big of a deal but for a phone that costs over 500 euro's here in my country.. you expect that it is build properly and backlight bleeding on a phone at this price!?
I compared 4 HTC's in the store and they all got the same problem
GPe dims the edges of the screen, so it's harder to notice if it's there. I haven't ran sense in a while so I can't tell either, but I can't notice this light bar effect on my phone either. So it may just be that batch of phones.
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Got it in in my bottom right corner... very minimal though
Wow, that's massively anal lol.
mine was the whole top screen.. but it doesn't matter, that's just HTC right..? They're known for the screen bleeding, haha..
I've been having this issue on the bottom of the display. It makes the nav buttons look funny and full-screen content is washed out.
dperez200 said:
I've been having this issue on the bottom of the display. It makes the nav buttons look funny and full-screen content is washed out.
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Here's mine. Italian H3g branded:
That light bleed above is probably a bit excessive bit you guys have to realize that all LCD screens are going to have some light bleed. You can usually make it less noticeable by using a lower brightness setting. If you are really anal about the slightest amount of bleed you should really be looking into phones with AMOLED displays. That said, if the light bleed is washing out the nav bar at reasonable brightness settings you should try to get it fixed or replaced.
My M8 has some bleed on the top left corner at normal brightness and I'll notice it across the entire top if I go full brightness in a dark room. At normal brightness it doesn't bother me at all.
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Hi all,
Had my Pixel for a few days now and noticed what I thought was a new gradient in the background of posts in the XDA labs app, I checked the screen using one of the grey test colours and found that I'm getting a dark cloud over the bottom right hand side of my screen. I tried taking a photo with my old phone (Moto X Pure) but the camera isn't good enough at low light for it to show up, I'll try and get a photo with my DSLR when I'm back from work later today. In the mean time some quick googling has shown it's very similar to the "Dirty Screen Effect" described here: http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/gray-uniformity-dirty-screen-effect-dse
Had anyone else noticed this? Do you think Google would RMA it? I've not really been bothered by the blue shift on my device so I'm slightly concerned that I might end up with a worse replacement if I do send it back
Cheers
Michael
It's a tough call, you have to ask yourself if you can live with it or not. Does it show up a lot during normal usage? Or is it just with the XDA labs app and similar applications in a low light setting with your brightness turned to like 0-10%? Or if you can see it at all times regardless of brightness settings you can contact Google tell them of the screen issue and get a RMA. Check out the replacement and compare the blue shift to your current and see if it also has the same issue as your current device. If it's better in both regards send it back, if the blue shift is a bit worse on the one and you can tolerate it and it doesn't have the bad back light uniformity you could keep it. That's what I would do personally, best of luck!
Yes, I have a similar issue. My first device had severe blue tint at any angle and Google would not replace so I returned and and reordered. The second device had only slight blue tint and is not an issue but of course has the uneven grays. The right side of the screen is much darker and there is also a dark spot around the sim tray area on the left side. I sent Google pictures and they are sending a replacement. It's only noticable in low light, looks fine at higher brightness though.
Ah I didn't realize they sent you the replacement first. That makes it a much easier decision. I'll still try and add a photo of it in the OP later today but RMA seems like the best choice. It's noticeable at lower backlight brightness and since it's winter here in the UK now the auto-brightness often drops it down to a level where it is noticeable just in normal daily use.
I get a VERY slight hint of that on a dark gray background at 5-7% brightness in a totally dark room but other than that very specific condition it's uniform otherwise.
The photo as promised unedited straight out of the camera (USB C OTG is neat). It's not quite this bad in person, if you imagine the light grey is the same shade as the dark grey in this image and the dark grey as being almost black then you get the idea, but it does show the difference between the two and it is clearly visible with the naked eye in a dark room.
The grey image I'm using is here: https://i1.wp.com/ausdroid.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/screenshot_20171022-153201.png?ssl=1
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The photo as promised unedited straight out of the camera (USB C OTG is neat). It's not quite this bad in person, if you imagine the light grey is the same shade as the dark grey in this image and the dark grey as being almost black then you get the idea, but it does show the difference between the two and it is clearly visible with the naked eye in a dark room.
The grey image I'm using is here: https://i1.wp.com/ausdroid.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/screenshot_20171022-153201.png?ssl=1
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Woah! Holy crap that's pretty bad. I would RMA that bad boy right away.
Man I hate OLED lottery.
Does anyone else have this issue? It's something similar to this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/green-tint-issue-oneplus-7t-t3986231
I'm debating if I should exchange it or just keep it, it's only noticeable at low brightness
vwite said:
Man I hate OLED lottery.
Does anyone else have this issue? It's something similar to this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/green-tint-issue-oneplus-7t-t3986231
I'm debating if I should exchange it or just keep it, it's only noticeable at leow brightness
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I have the same effect in original Youtube app. It is just a bad background gradient in the application. Don´t blame the phone....
When I open Messenger with black background and grey status bar at the top of the app in the same brightness level, there is no greenish effect.
I am also having uniformity issues. Very noticeable, unfortunately. As there are no 512GB Ultras available anyway ATM, O will just have to live with it for the moment. Maybe I get used to it...
buddy66 said:
I have the same effect in original Youtube app. It is just a bad background gradient in the application. Don´t blame the phone....
When I open Messenger with black background and grey status bar at the top of the app in the same brightness level, there is no greenish effect.
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mm weird, I see it in every single app with dark grey background, even in settings (w/Dark mode on), the bleeding is a lot bigger from the top right corner.
EDIT: Just checked the messenger app (FB messenger) and background is completely black so most pixels are off except for the letters and gray search bar but bleeding wouldn't be noticeable.
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mm weird, I see it in every single app with dark grey background, even in settings (w/Dark mode on), the bleeding is a lot bigger from the top right corner.
EDIT: Just checked the messenger app (FB messenger) and background is completely black so most pixels are off except for the letters and gray search bar but bleeding wouldn't be noticeable.
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I've just checked it with Gmail since it is also a Google application and you can notice the bleed when the lights in the room are turned on and I try to cover the top of the phone to see it. After turning the lights off, whole app is equally gray so in my opinion it is just an optical illusion. If I recall well the AMOLED displays use some kind of dimming (tinkering with the frequency) in order to reach a lower point of the brightness that is not noticeable for human eye. Probably this can be seen when covering a gray part of Google apps in a room that has another not so bright light source.
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I've just checked it with Gmail since it is also a Google application and you can notice the bleed when the lights in the room are turned on and I try to cover the top of the phone to see it. After turning the lights off, whole app is equally gray so in my opinion it is just an optical illusion. If I recall well the AMOLED displays use some kind of dimming (tinkering with the frequency) in order to reach a lower point of the brightness that is not noticeable for human eye. Probably this can be seen when covering a gray part of Google apps in a room that has another not so bright light source.
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I made a picture. It is showing a 5% gray test pic and supposed to be uniform. It is easy to see and I was kind of shocked when instantly noticing it the first time I was using it in the dark. Settings and many parts of the dark one UI are using grays in that range.
Anybody else? If it is rare, it will be worth pushing for an exchange.
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I made a picture. It is showing a 5% gray test pic and supposed to be uniform. It is easy to see and I was kind of shocked when instantly noticing it the first time I was using it in the dark. Settings and many parts of the dark one UI are using grays in that range.
Anybody else? If it is rare, it will be worth pushing for an exchange.
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I did the same test, I'm attaching a picture of my Note 10+ and the S20 Ultra side by side. Uniformity seems a lot better on the note 10+, however on white background the Note 10+ turns more red when I slightly tilt it while the S20 Ultra seems to shift colors a lot less and still white overall.
Still not sure if it's worth the hassle to return.
Ok, the fact, that it looks very much like mine can be good and bad ?
Could you please check, if is different at 60Hz? For me, it is clearly different.
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Ok, the fact, that it looks very much like mine can be good and bad
Could you please check, if is different at 60Hz? For me, it is clearly different.
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Oh wow, you're right! I set it to 60 hz and QHD+ and uniformity on the gray test got noticeable better, still some green on top right corner and around the punch hole but noticeable less. I love reaaally 120 hz during normal use though.
Thanks for confirming, same here. I wonder, if this is something, that can be fixed in software... And if the rumoured 'dynamic refresh raze' update might change things.
Could please note people check their Ultras displays?
Same here with my s20 more visible at 12hz refresh rate with dark theme
Damn it, ok, then I really hope that it is fixable... Weird.
I am using smiled displays since Symbian Nokias, never had one, where I noticed it so much.
I remember all the Mate 20 Pros with LG screen had this issue buy way worse in some cases
https://www.google.com/search?q=mat...JtXpfSDsL9sQXomrbgDQ&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS731US731
In some cases they were normal during the first days but the problem evolved until the display was unsusable in low light conditions, hope the same won't happen to our phone during the next weeks.
yeah I don`t have this issue I did the screen test in Gmail and download the app that does all the different colors including gray, at the lowest brightness and at other levels of brightness at 120hz its all uniform.
2003vstrom said:
yeah I don`t have this issue I did the screen test in Gmail and download the app that does all the different colors including gray, at the lowest brightness and at other levels of brightness at 120hz its all uniform.
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Mine is most noticeable at around 35-40% brightness and with 120 hz but still noticeable with 60 hz while on the note 10+ I can't see any green at all at any level of brightness. I think it's a quality issue and variation of OLED screens but not sure if it would count as "defective". Samsung doesn't do exchanges so it would be a pain to return everything and recorder without the promotions and reservation/pre-order credits. Ugh not sure what to do yet.
EDIT: Btw I tested with gmail and didn't notice the green in the app since it's light gray but as soon as I drop down the notification panel (w/dark mode on) the green is immediately noticeable. It's only with very dark gray that lookd almost black which is what Samsung use for all their apps (settings, calculator, messages, etc.) when dark mode is on. I wish they used true black so pixels were completely off like with facebook messenger.
I am also unsure what to do. I have to say, however, that this is the device that gives me the most uncertainty ever. For this opportunity price I want a good to perfect display. @vwite Don't you think that the dark grays are too bright as well? It wouldn't be so visible otherwhise. I also sent my picture to the 'write the CEO' address and a pledge to be aware of the issue:
https://www.samsung.com/uk/info/contactus/email-the-ceo/ (example: UK)
I will try checking in a store, which will be totally hard because of the light there. Maybe I will just order another one... Or a plus ?
Made another picture 'for the CEO' :silly: and will also attach the source image I showed on screen. To replicate:
- 25% brightness
- Show 5% picture in a dark room
- made picture with an S10+ on full auto
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Made another picture 'for the CEO' :silly: and will also attach the source image I showed on screen. To replicate:
- 25% brightness
- Show 5% picture in a dark room
- made picture with an S10+ on full auto
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Thanks! Please let me know what they say.
Actually I ordered an S20+ now and will most likely just give the Ultra back in the first 2 weeks. Yes, it is a pain, but I really can not stand the screen as is. I am even putting it in its box before I have the plus and using my S10+ in the meantime - the green tint is driving me a little nuts.
I am having a hard time justifying the thickness and weight for a feature I hardly use (amazing zoom) while having an inferior main camera at the same time (focus issues).
i noticed this issue too on my 20+
it seems to be worse some days less bad other days
it also is very dependable on how much ambient light is around - eg is much more noticeable in dark rooms
and yes is an issue with Samsung dark mode that isn't true black but some dark greyish
other then this - all other colours look amazing = so not sure if the screen itself is defective
I do hope there will be a software update that will fix this or make it less visible
Well,this frustrates me a lot,I'm just uploading video so you can see and compare to some cheap other chinese phone.
I'm noticing yellow tone all over screen,kinda like there is a night filter on with very low bright nightlight settings.
I increased brightness all the way to 100 % didn't help.
I also removed plastic cover from phone,nothing, still present.
I even switched to Vivid display settings before that and reduced RGB (R channel all the way,G to middle and Blue increased all the way) and set tone color to cooler slider all the way,no difference.
So,since I purchased using phone,is this some software bug/issue or I got faulty screen (maybe some kind of damage from sunburn),or this is just how this display work?
I'm uploading video and will post link soon...
So anyone else having same issue,and what to do,be sure I can not RMA the phone since I purchased it used.
I'm also anxious that the screen might die on me soon.
But this yellow tone frustrates me a lot,colors are not accurate at all because of it.
does it show in safe mode? what happens after reboot, goes away and come back later or...?
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does it show in safe mode? what happens after reboot, goes away and come back later or...?
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Hmm,why would I want to access safe mode,I don't have issues with phone except bad wifi and this issue.Mostly it's noticeable while watching vids (youube),look here if you can see the difference...but maybe it is suppose to be like that.
I set color mode all the way to cool tone and no difference to my eye.
I called a friend on a drink which has N10+ too,then we put 4k Nature video on each of the phones at same time and same screen lightning intensity.
No diference,between them...so now I'm confused totally.
Are my eyes cheating on me,is it possible that there is slight yellow tint (like light night light filter) or something is wrong with my eyes?
Is it possible that maybe screen adapts it self based on ambient light so I'm seeing yellowish tone...who knows,but I do trust my eyes,though picture was the same color accuracy on both phones...
I'm totally confused now...
I have currently 2 note 10+ phones. One which still has the original display while on the 2nd I installed a new display with frame. Comparing both these phones now, the older display - about 1.5 years old with light screen burn on the bottom is more yellow than the new one. The new one is very white compared to the old one. Maybe your display is showing its age?
damn...it was a damn mask/cover with yellow tint over it,not display...how was I stupid.
Some weird posts here, didn't you say you removed the film earlier ?