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HTC weather widget locations

Moved up from G2 to Desire yesterday and was trying to replicate how I had my G2 (and liked it). I noticed straight away that the weather widget from HTC is now limited to purely locations pre installed on the Desire.
On the G2 you could pick your "current" location where it would open google maps and you could if you wanted you zoom & scroll to your "desired" (no pun intended) location & pick virtually anywhere on the globe and use that.
Just wondering why on the updated UE with more advanced ROM I can't do this?? So my question is to those who know alot more about the backend of these apps/phones, can the location data I have created on my G2 be located easily enough and possibly moved over to my desire??
Thanks

From the manual.
If you consented to turn location service on when you were setting up your phone for the first time, you’ll see the weather of your current location right on the HTC Clock widget of your Home screen.
You can also use the Weather application to check the current weather and weather forecasts for the next four days of the week. In addition to your current location’s weather, this application also displays the weather forecasts of other cities around the globe.
If you declined to turn location service on during first-time setup of your phone, turn location service on in your phone’s settings so that you’ll be able to check your current location’s weather on the HTC Clock widget, Weather application, and the Weather widget. Press HOME > MENU, tap Settings > Location, and then select the Use wireless networks check box.

Location services are on and it works as described for the "current" location. My question was with regard to other user defined locations, which I could do with the previous version of the widget on the android OS on my G2.
This way I can check the weather say at a destination later in the day which isn't contained within the database within the handset.

Is this what you are looking for, although it sounds as though you are limited to the cities listed on the hand set.
Adding a city to the Weather screen
Add more cities to the Weather screen so you can instantly check the weather forecasts in these cities. In addition to your current location, the Weather screen can display up to 15 cities.
1.Press HOME, and then tap Weather.
2.On the Weather screen, tap +.
3.Enter the location you want to add on the text field. As you enter text, the list is filtered to show the possible locations based on the letters you entered.
4.Tap the desired city to select it.

It annoys me that they still don't let it access the weather service online and use your location from there as my location is still no there it was the same with the hero i had.

The locations you can add aren't brilliant I have admit.
I was searching for Basingstoke (someone has to) and couldnt find it until I noticed it under 'Baskingstoke' !

I'm in Reading and it can't find any weather data, it's because we don't have weather here see. That's what it is.

I emailed them over this back when i had my htc hero like 6 months ago and still no fix to this issue.

Arthur Hucksake said:
I'm in Reading and it can't find any weather data, it's because we don't have weather here see. That's what it is.
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I can get Reading OK on mine?

I have exactly the same problem, it wouldnt let me puck my own location...except the one picked by the phoneitself. For instance I live in bromley and when HTC set bromley as current location, there is no data available, however If I look for bromley myself and and add as a second location, the weather infor is available for that but the phone will not let me set that one as my current location.

sometimes the current location is unavailable for some reason, however if you add another city and use exactly the same location as for current location it will work fine and then you can set it as your default weather status

I like "Jabbypants" have emailed HTC as from what I can see it is a backward step not allowing us to use the map to pinpoint locations we want to know the weather for.
Maybe if enough email we may get a response?? Or somekind soul from HTC that reads these post will put up an "unofficial fix"??
http://www.htc.com/uk/CS_Mail.aspx

cez10 said:
sometimes the current location is unavailable for some reason, however if you add another city and use exactly the same location as for current location it will work fine and then you can set it as your default weather status
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I have tried that but it did not work..

I too had an oddity with the weather widget last night.
I'm in Leeds in the UK. That's the Leeds in Yorkshire, not in Kent. The weather widget only offers one Leeds, but doesn't state which one it is.
That seemed fair enough until last night. The weather for current location (Leeds) was different from the manually added city (Leeds also). I'm talking major difference - one said snow/rain with 2 degrees and the other said sunny at 8 degrees.
I'd like to figure out which Leeds is actually the one listed for manual selection. It obviously recognises both locations as showed the different weather for them both, but only lets you choose one manually.
Dae.
Edit. It's doing it again now. Leeds(current) shows 7 degrees, sunny and tomorrow (Monday) at 12 degree high with rain. Manually added Leeds shows current 8, cloudy with tomorrow being 11 degree high with Sun!!!

Well I have had a response from HTC, directly via email and via facebook.
Basically the "pinpoint" method employed on earlier android UE's has been removed due to a lack of customer trust. People didn't believe the weather it displayed for locations.
Email conversation is below
"Thank you for contacting HTC regarding the weather widget for your new Desire.
The Google map pinpointing technique you describe is no longer available. However, you can still find your location by doing the following:
- From the home screen, tap on Weather (or click menu and then Weather).
- Once in Weather, tap Menu. This will give you a keyboard so that you can type your preferred location.
I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.
Kind regards"
I then tried a different tack
Thanks for the reply,
though the technique you describe
- From the home screen, tap on Weather (or click menu and then Weather).
- Once in Weather, tap Menu. This will give you a keyboard so that you can type your preferred location.
is flawed in that it is limited by the locations stored in the UE's database? I can't say for instance pick "Famagusta" in Cyprus as a location I want the weather for, as the UE only brings up Limassol or Nicosia in Cyprus (2 locations for a large island). I know that is a wide of the mark example, but I spend time there, though is is the same for most European countries.
Is there any way to expand the geographic database or do we have to wait for someone to hack it, like they did on Windows Mobile based devices such as the Diamond, where we could edit the database with locations from accuweather.com
Any further info would be most welcome as it has somewhat taken the shine off my progression from handset to handset (last 5 all HTC) which seemed to offer more to the consumer and be more customer orientated in that we could personalise them.
Many thanks
"Unfortunately, there is no way to expand the database. We cannot offer support regarding 3rd party applications, such as you describe. However, you are certainly free to investigate this avenue yourself.
We will feed back to HQ with your comments, but at this time, the locations in the list are the only ones available.
Kind regards,"

I'll be keeping an eye on any developments for this because I'd like it to be able to tell me the weather in Ipsos on Corfu. As it is, Corfu island is omitted altogether.

Anyone with this problem?
My current location displays Portugal instead of Lisbon.
My HTC Hero displayed my location correctly, local city detail instead of county detail.

The weather widget really annoys me. My location is not on the list and if I tell it to current location it knows where I am but says no weather data available. I can view the weather okay on accuweather.com so it's just the widget that won't show it for some reason.

I also asked :
I cannot set MY LOCATION manually. Strange, but I live in Bucharest which is the capital of the country and the weather program from Sense UI finds the city but in the HOME screen the weather it's different (not Bucharest). So my location it is not set manually, the GPS and google settings knows that I'm in Bucharest but the weather shown in HOME Screen it's not Bucharest - instead I have (I guess) Weather for Romania (no city , only Romania). Before writing this e-mail I did some research on the net and the user manual, and I find out that My location it is taken from network settings or something like that. This is not normal and it's very annoying. All I'm asking it's a way to set my location manually or a real automatic setting for this! Romania it's quite big you know ????? Thank you and I'm expecting your answer urgent! Kind regards!
This is what they answered:
Thank you for contacting us,
Regarding the issue you're facing, kindly be informed that if you disable the automatic location settings your location will be determined from the world clock that you can set manually but you will not receive any weather updates, you can try to use another SIM card from a different operator to check if this issue will persist or not, you can also try to searching the Android Market to check if there are any 3rd party applications that might help you with this issue.

Same issue here, weather for Paris works great, but I would like to add the small village where I spend my week-ends, and I can't find it in the database...
Looks like the cities are stored in an xml file, but I don't where to find it...
-> www dot htc-touch-info dot com/en/weather/

Weather Widget

Is no longer detecting my current location.....it won't update (other cities are working fine). The banner int he Clock/Weather widget is empty and says "My Location" but nothing there.
any clues??

I've had similar over the last couple of months, also it showing 'United Kingdom' and weather info, rather than a specific place.
I did wonder (pure speculation alert!!) if they've been having problems with getting locations right - I've definitely had weather for somewhere of the same name as where I was, but with completely different weather conditions.
Not an actual example, but along the lines of showing 'Newcastle' and giving you the weather for Newcastle-Upon-Tyne or Newcastle-Under-Lyme but not knowing which one it should be (In the case of the Northern Newcastle it does display Newcastle-Upon-Tyne - which to me reinforces the idea that it does know and differentiate some similarly-named places.

have a problem with mine for a few weeks now it just gets stuck at my house's location.. when i get to uni it still thinks im at home :S and i cant get it to change.. it was working before..

i have the same problem. the "fix" in my case was to remove the weather widget and add it again.

I gave up after it stopped working for me months ago. Not using the HTC weather widget anymore but yr.no instead.

In program click on weather icon then Menu and select Rearrange
Drag ur current location on top position

To remove and put it back as new solved this in my case too..
Btw, Yr.no is the most reliable app (personal think as well), after a hard-reset, wanted to install it again from the market, but it was no longer available there(?) Does anybody know what has happened to it?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I talked to HTC hand the currentlocation is the nerest city not the palce your in like the function on HD2 Weather Widget. (cant understand why it shows the place if you add/remove it, but it will cahange back after a while to city again)
No updates will come from htc...!!!
So change app to snowstorm istead!

Ed-UK said:
I've had similar over the last couple of months, also it showing 'United Kingdom' and weather info, rather than a specific place.
I did wonder (pure speculation alert!!) if they've been having problems with getting locations right - I've definitely had weather for somewhere of the same name as where I was, but with completely different weather conditions.
Not an actual example, but along the lines of showing 'Newcastle' and giving you the weather for Newcastle-Upon-Tyne or Newcastle-Under-Lyme but not knowing which one it should be (In the case of the Northern Newcastle it does display Newcastle-Upon-Tyne - which to me reinforces the idea that it does know and differentiate some similarly-named places.
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Newcastle upon Tyne is a good example, I work in Newcastle so I have My Location and "Newcastle-Upon-Tyne" (it shouldn't be hyphenated and upon shouldn't be capitlised!) and there are always a few degrees difference between the temperatures, it's very strange.

Mine did this a few months ago but sorted itself out after a while. It shows my current location as the town I am in and never has a problem updating when I move around
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[Q] Trying to match Yahoo Weather exactly

All,
I've been spending a bunch of time trying to get my icons to match Yahoo (using yahoo for my data as well). Ultimately I want my widget to open yahoo weather with certain clicks and I just want everything to be cohesive in look.
So far, I was able to extract all the icons from the yahoo weather apk, and i generally have them working. However, I've noticed that Yahoo actually has many more than 16 weather types. This seems to be causing me all sorts of inconsistencies in terms of what is shown on my widget versus what is shown in the app, specifically in future forecasts for the days ahead. For example, the app shows the next 6 days as scattered thunderstorms (its florida after all). But, my widget is showing them all as full thunderstorms (different icon than the app). I can somewhat "fix" this by mapping them to scattered, but that would just break the ones who truly should be mapped to thunderstorms.
The other problem I'm having is that the future days (once its past sunset) are all changing to nightime icons instead of being locked to day versions (as it is in the app).
Anyone have experience in trying to get everything consistent? Whats the best way to address it? And, is it possible to map the full list of Yahoo data instead of just 16? Perhaps I just screwed something up in my config file when i tried it? The yahoo developer page has a list of all of them, though I have no way to tell if that's actually 100% up to date either? Looks like it was posted in 2011. How can I make the day/night versions ONLY apply to my current weather, and not future? Maybe build 2 different sets of the same icons and exclude night? Seems like a lot of work, so wondering if anyone has tackled something similar.
Thanks,

Also, i assume somewhere zooper is taking the 48 Yahoo weather conditions and mapping that down to just 16? Where / how is that done?

g8rfn said:
All,
I've been spending a bunch of time trying to get my icons to match Yahoo (using yahoo for my data as well). Ultimately I want my widget to open yahoo weather with certain clicks and I just want everything to be cohesive in look.
So far, I was able to extract all the icons from the yahoo weather apk, and i generally have them working. However, I've noticed that Yahoo actually has many more than 16 weather types. This seems to be causing me all sorts of inconsistencies in terms of what is shown on my widget versus what is shown in the app, specifically in future forecasts for the days ahead. For example, the app shows the next 6 days as scattered thunderstorms (its florida after all). But, my widget is showing them all as full thunderstorms (different icon than the app). I can somewhat "fix" this by mapping them to scattered, but that would just break the ones who truly should be mapped to thunderstorms.
The other problem I'm having is that the future days (once its past sunset) are all changing to nightime icons instead of being locked to day versions (as it is in the app).
Anyone have experience in trying to get everything consistent? Whats the best way to address it? And, is it possible to map the full list of Yahoo data instead of just 16? Perhaps I just screwed something up in my config file when i tried it? The yahoo developer page has a list of all of them, though I have no way to tell if that's actually 100% up to date either? Looks like it was posted in 2011. How can I make the day/night versions ONLY apply to my current weather, and not future? Maybe build 2 different sets of the same icons and exclude night? Seems like a lot of work, so wondering if anyone has tackled something similar.
Thanks,
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You will not be able to match Yahoo's weather states exactly with Zooper. As you already figured out, Zooper only knows 16 weather states, which is done to unify the states from different weather data providers to a single interface. The external states are mapped internally to these internal ones and this process can not be influenced from the user side.
As to your second question about the day/night icons: download my weather icon set here and check the included XML. It's configured to only show day/night icons for the current weather option and not the forecast variants. You should be able to transfer this to your set quite easily

Thanks!

Interesting. I didn't know zooper converted the 48 yahoo weathers to 16. What are those 16? I'm trying to do something similar to the OP but with bitmaps.

TheStretchedElf said:
Interesting. I didn't know zooper converted the 48 yahoo weathers to 16. What are those 16? I'm trying to do something similar to the OP but with bitmaps.
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To answer my own question, and assuming this link is up to date, the 16 weather conditions of zooper are here: http://www.zooper.org/wp/archives/1155

kwerdenker said:
As to your second question about the day/night icons: download my weather icon set here and check the included XML. It's configured to only show day/night icons for the current weather option and not the forecast variants. You should be able to transfer this to your set quite easily
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I am facing the same problem regarding day/night icons. I downloaded your config.xml and tried to modify my existing xml based on the info in your xml, but it seems I'm doing something wrong because when I open Zooper on my phone the app is not recognizing the modified xml.
I am attaching the icon set (including the original xml) without any modification. I would appreciate if you let me know exactly what to modify in the xml.
Thanks

jakou said:
I am facing the same problem regarding day/night icons. I downloaded your config.xml and tried to modify my existing xml based on the info in your xml, but it seems I'm doing something wrong because when I open Zooper on my phone the app is not recognizing the modified xml.
I am attaching the icon set (including the original xml) without any modification. I would appreciate if you let me know exactly what to modify in the xml.
Thanks
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I rather prefere if you upload your edited version so I can check it for errors and tell you what you did wrong. That way you know what to do when the next icon pack comes around

kwerdenker said:
I rather prefere if you upload your edited version so I can check it for errors and tell you what you did wrong. That way you know what to do when the next icon pack comes around
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Here's the modified xml.

Weather line graph? possible?

Hello, I wonder if there's possible to make a line graph with Zooper Widget Pro?
I trust the yr.no weather and would like this graph yr.no/sted/Sverige/Norrbotten/Lule%C3%A5/time_for_time.html
I know there's a widget itself for this but it simply just grabs the image itself and I can't customize it at all.
So I wonder if there's possible to somehow build weather graph in Zooper?

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Mokum020 said:
I don't know what you're thinking of making exactly, but this is a weather widget with graps I made a couple of months ago.
For me the only weather provider available in Zooper that works well with my widget is the default, Open Weather Map.
With Yr.no I mostly get strange readings and with Yahoo I get less weather data.
In the attachments you can see the data I get for your location with the three weather providers available in Zooper.
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Woa that looks sweet!
I thought mostly about a line graph that shows the weather for the next 24 or 48 hours.
Not have to be line graph, those bars you've looks great, but it would be nice if it's possible to get out every hour of the weather change in a full day atleast.

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Niemil said:
Woa that looks sweet!
I thought mostly about a line graph that shows the weather for the next 24 or 48 hours.
Not have to be line graph, those bars you've looks great, but it would be nice if it's possible to get out every hour of the weather change in a full day atleast.
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Mokum020 said:
Somebody correct me if i'm wrong but afaik you can't get hourly predictions only daily.
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Correct. Zooper doesn't pull the data for hourly forecasts. There is always Tasker as an option to get the data but I don't know if someone already tried to implement an "alternative" weather data provider that way.

I know I'm way late to this thread, but I'm just getting started with Zooper Pro. Right now, I'm only interested in making weather widgets. I'm hoping Mokum020 can answer a question for me about the wind rose. How exactly is that implemented? The widget in post #2 is simply stunning. If you didn't mind, could you post the .zw file you used so I could learn from it. Thanks in advance for any help.

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Correct. Zooper doesn't pull the data for hourly forecasts. There is always Tasker as an option to get the data but I don't know if someone already tried to implement an "alternative" weather data provider that way.
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Tasker can definitely pull it and parse it. Either from a weather data site or using the AutoApp plugin AutoWeather, which is still in alpha but seems to work pretty well.
So, lets say Tasker passes hourly data to Tasker to build a line graph of hourly weather. I think it can ABSOLUTELY be done, technically lol, but first you'd have to work with some rectangles scaled down to lines and a whooole bunch of math.
In Zooper every aspect of those 'lines' can be controlled via Advanced Parameters. So width, rotation angle, x/y etc. The issue is that you'd have to employ some fairly advanced mathematics to get the lines into a proper graph. Whether that math gets done in Zooper based on the Tasker data, OR, the math gets done in Tasker and just all piped over to Zooper, I believe it's doable but again the math would be time consuming aspect.
Not nuclear physics, but a lot of equations and trial and error. As working with Zooper variables and math is akin to cryptography sometimes, I'd be in favor of doing the math all in Tasker and then doing a data dump to Zooper just to spin and lengthen (or shorten) the lines to display/build the graph.

Thank you very much. I'm an old hand at Android, but very new to Zooper.

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Accuweather

Is it possible to change the provider on the stock weather widget on the G4 from Accuweather to another one?
Accuweather gives a totally incorrect forecast 90% of the time in my case.
It's been saying all morning heavy cloud and to wrap up and its been sunny, blue skies and 22 deg for the last 2 hours.
Cheers

Have you tried changing the update interval in settings to 1 hour instead of the default 3?

Yes that was the 1st thing I did, I like the widget itself I just don't like AccuWeather as the provider but I can't see a setting how to swap it

john306 said:
Is it possible to change the provider on the stock weather widget on the G4 from Accuweather to another one?
Accuweather gives a totally incorrect forecast 90% of the time in my case.
It's been saying all morning heavy cloud and to wrap up and its been sunny, blue skies and 22 deg for the last 2 hours.
Cheers
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How could this be possible, without having any option to select weather service providers? Stock weather app is very basic and is tied to Accuweather, as their services are default on all Samsung and LG devices, because it's official weather provider on these devices.

Whilst I am in agreement with OP, unfortunately Accuweather is the only service provider LG use as stock, it's all built into the smart notice etc. There's no way of changing it from the front end, and changing it back end in the code would be just messy. I tend to use Google Now for weather as it seems to be more accurate.

That's unfortunate. Thanks anyway. I'll just change to another weather/time widget that I can choose, and that is at least somewhat accurate.

john306 said:
That's unfortunate. Thanks anyway. I'll just change to another weather/time widget that I can choose, and that is at least somewhat accurate.
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There are some weather applications available on Google Play store, that allow you to switch between weather providers such Weather Timeline, and a few more. I've tested a few applications, and these weather providers are all you get to choose from: yahoo.com, yr.no, forecast.io, weather underground, openweathermap, world weather online. Most of these apps, gives you between two or three providers choice, but Weather Timline has max. no of providers. You can check them out.