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Am using Leedroid App2SD+ ROM and have 1gb ext with 756MB free, i have lots of apps installed but now my phone is showing low memory 15MB, so I have moved alot of the apps to SD card to try free up abit, but its not freeing up phone memory its still staying at 15MB.
Why wont all apps just use the ext? how do I get free phone memory back up again.
All help welcome thanks
All apps have to use internal /data/data folder to store libraries etc. So if you need more storage read about data2sd.
Because if you have A2SD+, then Move to SD in the application manager has no effect (apps are already on the SD Card).
Try running a cache cleaner, maybe too much cache. Possibly a2sd+ is not working properly?
I never had that much low space on LeeDroid when I was using it (had 55 apps of my own installed).
check the leedroid topic?
I read something about a memoryleak in flash what could cause the problem.
You can also move dalvik-cache to sd to free about 40MB internal memory.
Simply download terminal emulator from market, and then put su and a2sd cachesd or cachesdreset (it removes old dalvik cache from internal memory) commands.
nagypapi said:
Because if you have A2SD+, then Move to SD in the application manager has no effect
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Oh yeah it does. It ruins everything you were supposed to get with a2sd+.
decat said:
check the leedroid topic?
I read something about a memoryleak in flash what could cause the problem.
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Read better next time. It was regarding random access memory and not the internal storage memory.
Bartyzel said:
You can also move dalvik-cache to sd to free about 40MB internal memory.
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He has a2sd+ with Leedroid. a2sd+==dalvik on the ext.
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Thanks guys for reply's.
I have no cache to clear, so it has to be data, what the best way on doing datatoSD?
I thought the rom has to support it, can I just install somethink to make this happen.
thanks again
shankly1985 said:
Thanks guys for reply's.
I have no cache to clear, so it has to be data, what the best way on doing datatoSD?
I thought the rom has to support it, can I just install somethink to make this happen.
thanks again
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Here you have zip instalation scripts and some tutorial how to manage that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10692249&postcount=1299
Remember that you will lost your apps! Backup them by Titanium Backup (I don't think that backup and recovery by nandroid it is best solution if you are messing with symlinks and /data partition).
Bartyzel said:
Here you have zip instalation scripts and some tutorial how to manage that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10692249&postcount=1299
Remember that you will lost your apps! Backup them by Titanium Backup (I don't think that backup and recovery by nandroid it is best solution if you are messing with symlinks and /data partition).
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I have made my mind up am changing rom, just ordered 16gb class 4 PNY sd card.
going to use starburst ROM, if Leedroid end up fully supporting data2sd ill go back because I love that ROM
shankly1985 said:
.......if Leedroid end up fully supporting data2sd ill go back because I love that ROM
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I never had any issues like yours when I used Lee droid A2SD and had installed a lot of apps. Just make sure that you have not moved the apps in the app manager to the SDCard as this only movers them out of the Ext partition and in to the FAT32 partition.
I would give Leedroid another shot with your new SDCard.
Sent with Desire.
angusc said:
I never had any issues like yours when I used Lee droid A2SD and had installed a lot of apps. Just make sure that you have not moved the apps in the app manager to the SDCard as this only movers them out of the Ext partition and in to the FAT32 partition.
I would give Leedroid another shot with your new SDCard.
Sent with Desire.
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I think I have just filled it lol got 75 apps but most of them are games big files, ill give starburst a go liking the sound of this ROM and if its true I should never fill the memory, if it not good ill go back to leedroid but start fresh format everythink.
With my old partition I did make it on windows like, so maybe thats whats happened, I am going to use gparted next time.
Ok, i have just finished re-installing all my apps after flashing AceSMod007-3D, the first A2SD+ ROM i have used, and i am already running out of space. I have noticed that any "phone only" apps i download seem to be placed on the internal memory whilst anything movable seems to be placed on the EXT partition and doesn't decrease internal space at all. Is this how A2SD+ is supposed to work? Is my only option to free up more space to delete some of my phone only apps?
I've just rooted and installed AceSMod007 (v33) and im also confused by what goes to SD-Ext4 vs Internal... so far it is hitting Internal, although one app does have the SEND 2 SD option but not sure if that means to the FAT32 or Ext4 partition.
so well confused so far... im holding off customising the phone until i have a better idea.
Open titanium backup, it should show u system memory, internal memory, sd-ext memory and sd card memory..If the app2sd is working u should see that sd-ext is not empty
Leave away the SEND 2 SD option..this is the android stock move to sd, not the app2sd
Its definitely sending apps that were already movable to the EXT partition, but i was under the impression that A2SD+ meant that apps that previously weren't movable would now be able to be spread over the EXT partition as well. If all it does is send the movable apps there automatically then its basically the same as stock A2SD, just without the need to move them yourself
Paratax said:
Its definitely sending apps that were already movable to the EXT partition, but i was under the impression that A2SD+ meant that apps that previously weren't movable would now be able to be spread over the EXT partition as well. If all it does is send the movable apps there automatically then its basically the same as stock A2SD, just without the need to move them yourself
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NO, that is the stock move to sd: mean a part of the app can be moved on the sd card fat32 partition, it doesn't allow every app to be moved, and the app is partially on the sd card
The a2sd move every app u install on the ext partition, is not in ur sdcard fat32 partition..it move completely the apk on the ext partition..so the space saved is enough (u will STILL see that the app can be moved on the sd card..but u HAVE to leave it on the internal memory to make the a2sd/a2sd+ fully work)
ok .. but why does the Internal Memory indicate decrease (by megs) if it is installing on EXT. I can see my game is on SD-EXT/APP but Internal went down by 3megs.
kazgor said:
ok .. but why does the Internal Memory indicate decrease (by megs) if it is installing on EXT. I can see my game is on SD-EXT/APP but Internal went down by 3megs.
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The data saved from each app (settings, preferences) is still on the internal memory /data/data so that probably is normal if the games need to save a lot of things
Btw how much is ur free internal memory?
its now 108MB of 148MB, with only Mini Info and HyperJump Installed
Its definitely not just the data. one of the apps i install is 7.5mb and 450kb of data. it decreases the internal space by 7.95mb in total after an install, NONE of the app what so ever is going to the EXT partition, and i suspect there are several other apps doing the same thing
quick system info will show the a2sd size
kazgor said:
its now 108MB of 148MB, with only Mini Info and HyperJump Installed
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then? even if u uninstall hyperjump and mini info, u will see that u will never have 148 mb free!
try installing all of ur apps...u will see that it does't decrease too much
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Its definitely not just the data. one of the apps i install is 7.5mb and 450kb of data. it decreases the internal space by 7.95mb in total after an install, NONE of the app what so ever is going to the EXT partition, and i suspect there are several other apps doing the same thing
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if u install from the market an application, it will be downloaded on ur internal memory..that the space that u see probably
restore all ur apps, and stop looking for a mb more or less..u will have lots of space available..if this is not the case then u did something wrong.
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then? even if u uninstall hyperjump and mini info, u will see that u will never have 148 mb free!
try installing all of ur apps...u will see that it does't decrease too much
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yes.. from a fresh install of the ROM it started with around 111mb free, so yeah you are correct never will get the 148mb back.. but then the Stock Rom DID have 148mb free so that like 37mb lost from the get go.
Its all new to me this apsd+ stuff so i'll start install Apps and see how far i get, on stock i HAD to use Froyo "Send to SD" to get everything installed.
thanks.
kazgor said:
yes.. from a fresh install of the ROM it started with around 111mb free, so yeah you are correct never will get the 148mb back.. but then the Stock Rom DID have 148mb free so that like 37mb lost from the get go.
Its all new to me this apsd+ stuff so i'll start install Apps and see how far i get, on stock i HAD to use Froyo "Send to SD" to get everything installed.
thanks.
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could it be you have a few extra bits thrown in (app wise) with your rom that is taking up extra space?
afaik apps2sd+ you should leave everything on internal
ok this was a good read.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7458565&postcount=8
it kind of implies that because there a symbolic link from NAND/Apps to sd-ext/apps, the phone thinks apps are still internal so will reduce the freespace indicated in Settings --> SD & Phone Storage
andQlimax said:
if u install from the market an application, it will be downloaded on ur internal memory..that the space that u see probably
restore all ur apps, and stop looking for a mb more or less..u will have lots of space available..if this is not the case then u did something wrong.
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Well obviously something is wrong, as i have installed around 30 apps and i'm already out of internal memory.
I've read on here that people are able to install lots of apps without clogging their memory on their phone, placing all their info on their sd cards. can someone help me do that? I've already have app2card and other apps to clear up memory but things still start to take up the phone memory.
I've done the search and can't figure this one out. i'm using the atomic rom and I believe my phone is rooted. thank you.
legacygt777 said:
I've read on here that people are able to install lots of apps without clogging their memory on their phone, placing all their info on their sd cards. can someone help me do that? I've already have app2card and other apps to clear up memory but things still start to take up the phone memory.
I've done the search and can't figure this one out. i'm using the atomic rom and I believe my phone is rooted. thank you.
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Well, even if apps is moved to sd, their odex files will still occupy space in dalvik-cache. If you have many apps, internal space will surely be low.
I'm using DiskUsage app to see what is taking space in internal memory.
Here is some hints from me that can help you with internal memory problems:
-clear your apps cashe and data from time to time (obviously, you can do that for not so important apps, but not for games, because you will loose your progress)
-Most GB roms are not big in term of size, so there are lot of space left in /system (sometimes even more then 100MB). You can install some of your apps to system (move them from /data/app to /system/app).
-Reodex your rom. You'll get 30MB+ if you reodex just framework folder, even more if you reodex all system apps. (so all odex files will be in system partition, not in dalvik-cache (data partition)
-Finaly, you can unlock your bootloader and flash custom kernels (lupus or turbo kernel) that can increase you data partition to 610MB
Bakisha said:
Well, even if apps is moved to sd, their odex files will still occupy space in dalvik-cache. If you have many apps, internal space will surely be low.
I'm using DiskUsage app to see what is taking space in internal memory.
Here is some hints from me that can help you with internal memory problems:
-clear your apps cashe and data from time to time (obviously, you can do that for not so important apps, but not for games, because you will loose your progress)
-Most GB roms are not big in term of size, so there are lot of space left in /system (sometimes even more then 100MB). You can install some of your apps to system (move them from /data/app to /system/app).
-Reodex your rom. You'll get 30MB+ if you reodex just framework folder, even more if you reodex all system apps. (so all odex files will be in system partition, not in dalvik-cache (data partition)
-Finaly, you can unlock your bootloader and flash custom kernels (lupus or turbo kernel) that can increase you data partition to 610MB
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thanks! i'm really happy with my atomic 7 gb rom so I don't think I will flash a new one (at the moment). I have abou 120mb left in my internal memory....is that pretty good? will reodexing your rom slow down the system?
appreciate the feedback.
legacygt777 said:
thanks! i'm really happy with my atomic 7 gb rom so I don't think I will flash a new one (at the moment). I have abou 120mb left in my internal memory....is that pretty good? will reodexing your rom slow down the system?
appreciate the feedback.
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120MB is OK. Actually, it's all ok untill first thing you want to install fail due low space. Then you can think of things posted above.
No, reodexing rom won't slow your phone.
I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
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I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
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1)just downloaded link2 sd
2)ok baby steps here....how do I format card?
3)"use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4" - how do I do this? is that an app?
thanks man....much appreciated.
legacygt777 said:
1)just downloaded link2 sd
2)ok baby steps here....how do I format card?
3)"use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4" - how do I do this? is that an app?
thanks man....much appreciated.
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First, make a backup of your sd card to PC.
Minitool is program for PC. Tutorial how to use it (with download links) is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning
ozzmanj1 said:
I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
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so do I partition (say ext2) first? and make it 3g. then I format the rest of the space fat32?
sorry if this is so basic.
legacygt777 said:
so do I partition (say ext2) first? and make it 3g. then I format the rest of the space fat32?
sorry if this is so basic.
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also is the ext2 my primary?
the rest of it "logical"?
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My Xperia Play's intenal memory is starting to get lower day by day. I currently have 91mb free available and i've already uninstalled many apps that i don't use daily. I've heard of the link2sd partitioning method but whenever i try i get the error "Mount script cannot be created" and i've tried all the options e.g ex2,3,4 and FAT32. I've gave up on that so now i'm wondering is there any way to get my internal memory go up since apps take up more and more space.
Do you have enough space on sd card? in my case, link2sd made ext2 partition with 1.4GB size on 16GB card (it didn't even ask me how much space it needed). Since i click it just for curiousity, i had to format that sd card in windows to get that space back. I don't need it because link2sd can move apps to sd even without that partition. Just don't move apps like widgets or launcher, all other is safe to move...
Or if you are using GB stock based rom (and you have unlocked bootloader) you can use kernel with 700MB data partition
Bakisha said:
Do you have enough space on sd card? in my case, link2sd made ext2 partition with 1.4GB size on 16GB card (it didn't even ask me how much space it needed). Since i click it just for curiousity, i had to format that sd card in windows to get that space back. I don't need it because link2sd can move apps to sd even without that partition. Just don't move apps like widgets or launcher, all other is safe to move...
Or if you are using GB stock based rom (and you have unlocked bootloader) you can use kernel with 700MB data partition
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I have 6GB space left (i think that's enough) and i only tried to make a 1GB partition. Although you can move apps to the sd, not all of the app goes to the sd, a part of it still remains in the internal storage By partitioning, you can xfer all of the apps data (aka link) to the partitioned part of the sd card. Have an unlocked bootloader, currently using xperia Z final rom by markpython (ICS)
Xplay21 said:
I have 6GB space left (i think that's enough) and i only tried to make a 1GB partition. Although you can move apps to the sd, not all of the app goes to the sd, a part of it still remains in the internal storage By partitioning, you can xfer all of the apps data (aka link) to the partitioned part of the sd card. Have an unlocked bootloader, currently using xperia Z final rom by markpython (ICS)
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Well, you can try to repartition sdcard manualy with minitool partition wizard
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Well, you can try to repartition sdcard manualy with minitool partition wizard
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I tried but even then those partitioned space become a waste of space since i can't move any apps into the partitioned area
Xplay21 said:
I tried but even then those partitioned space become a waste of space since i can't move any apps into the partitioned area
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What kernel are you using? Is others init.d scripts are working for you?
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What kernel are you using? Is others init.d scripts are working for you?
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I'm using 2.6.32.9-LuPuS-iCs-Beta and i'm not sure about the init.d scripts
Sorry if i'm inexperienced
Xplay21 said:
I'm using 2.6.32.9-LuPuS-iCs-Beta and i'm not sure about the init.d scripts
Sorry if i'm inexperienced
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You might want to try Lupus ICS/GB v7 kernel
It has 610MB data partition (and ICSbeta have 380MB, as i recall)
But make sure you read all the info in 2nd post (esspecially under bold "important" lines)
In short, make cwm backup and/or app(and data) backup (with titanium backup)
Also, you might want to check this thread if you want to test other kernels
Just found out ur the owner of the other thread anyways what difference will it make using the other kernel? Will it fix the error "Mount script cannot be created"
Xplay21 said:
Just found out ur the owner of the other thread anyways what difference will it make using the other kernel? Will it fix the error "Mount script cannot be created"
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As i said, i'm on GB and script worked for me. I don't know why you are getting that error. Maybe it's ROM, maybe it's kernel related, but i'm only guessing...
I just remembered something:
try to update your busybox (to fix script error)
you can do it with app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.busybox.installer
ok thanks ill give that a try
Just bricked my xperia play :c
I'm stuck on the LuPuS kernel bootloop
EDIT: ok i fixed that now and thanks the partitioning problem has been fixed. But i picked up a new issue. O the walkman music player app when i try to download music info it gives me the "unknown error could not download"
I've tried the several of the 4.4.4 CM11, ominrom, and currently the carbonrom. All of them I'm having trouble getting several, if any, apps to the sd card.
The only apps that will go are messenger and terminal. The rest stay on the internal drive. However, even after flashing, I'm only left with 100mb to install apps on. After I run the gapps, there's not enough space to install more than one or two apps and the phone is pretty slow. It seems to be a common problem but I've done a ton of reading and believe I've followed all the instructions.
-partitioned exactly how the guide says using 4ext. no problems. ( my card is 64GB)
-a2sd via terminal also works
-my sd card shows in storage
Any help would be appreciated.
- How big is the partition, should be max 2GB.
- Install diskusage app, enable root and browse to your sd-ext partition, check that it is being used, should see /app and /dalvik-cache folders if setup correctly
- your internal memory won't read 'internal + sd-ext'. Keep apps on internal to trick them to sd-ext, so do not 'move to sd'
Thanks... I did a 1GB partition and re: your suggestion, it looks like I have everything is in order.
Does that mean the internal memory is just full with the ROM installation? Should I look at using an older/smaller rom?
rspear said:
Thanks... I did a 1GB partition and re: your suggestion, it looks like I have everything is in order.
Does that mean the internal memory is just full with the ROM installation? Should I look at using an older/smaller rom?
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You have ~1GB space for apps and dalvik-cache.
When it says 100MB remaining, this does not mean you have 100MB left for apps. This will be used for app data like app settings / saved game data, and app caches. It will still fill up the more you install, but more slowly. Again you can use the diskusage app to browse your /data partition.
The limiting factor is that your are still on stock hboot with only ~147MB actual internal memory (the same as before you rooted)
You can flash a different hboot (requires S-OFF), then flash a corresponding older ROM with smaller /system size like CM7 or Oxygen. That along with equivalent a2sd script will give you more app space. You will always eventually run out of space though
Awesome! Thanks for your time.