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Display getting darker when scrolling

Hello!
I recently got the Arc S and I love it, but there's something about the screen that freaks me out. It's hard to describe, but let me try.
When I scroll through menus, objects get darker while they move. Most notibly when there's white text on black background. I don't know many of you know it, but it's like applying the "inner shadow" filter to the fonts in photoshop.
I made a video to demonstrate that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVRTmsr6Ppg
Hopefully you can see the effect on the text, but it's very noticable that the lines between the items disappear while scrolling.
While on a grey background, text appears yellowish while scrolling.
I get a similar effect when I scroll through pictures.
Other than that, the screen is perfectly fine. I have a Neo V here with the same rom and kernel and there is nothing like that.
Or is this just normal screen behaviour I have to get used to?

What rom are you on?
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if you look clearly at the screen, it is not getting darker! just the lines between the selectable touch fields are getting darker. dont know why but this problem is on all roms i have tested. it happens at small text and very small lines (1-2 pixel lines i think)

@TheHaso
Super Jelly Bean, Slim Bean, Ultimate HD.. It doesn't seem to matter.
@om22
So you think this is a software issue?
I noticed when I scroll through small turqoise text, it clearly gets darker and shifts into a more blue-ish tone.

neo2k12 said:
@TheHaso
Super Jelly Bean, Slim Bean, Ultimate HD.. It doesn't seem to matter.
@om22
So you think this is a software issue?
I noticed when I scroll through small turqoise text, it clearly gets darker and shifts into a more blue-ish tone.
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no i think this is normal on tn-panel lcd screens (our arc/s). just a dark blurring effect i think.
If you want to get some information about TN displays vs IPS etc just follow the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal_display#Twisted_nematic_.28TN.29

it's normal. only the lines get darker and not the text. this is how android makes it. try to increase the brightness and you will see that the lines gets a little darker.

But this effect does not happen at all on the Neo V.
And of course the text is getting darker, too. As I said, on black background a turquoise text shifts to blue while scrolling.

neo2k12 said:
But this effect does not happen at all on the Neo V.
And of course the text is getting darker, too. As I said, on black background a turquoise text shifts to blue while scrolling.
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maybe because the neo v has built in another display? Our display also is very blurry in my opinion (high response time)

[Q] Note 2 screen problem?

I bought my phone from an online store in Romania on February 22.I have warranty and other things, it was brand new. I kept the screen on full brightness, and Dynamic color mode. That's how I like it. I was aware of burn in so I switched colors with a display tester every 3 days or so. Yesterday I noticed that the spot where status bar is used to be in portrait mode is brighter than the rest of the screen when displaying blue, white and grey colors. Brighter not Darker. I searched on Google images and that doesn't look like burn in. It wasn't here until yesterday when I spotted it. It's barely visible with display tester but in Games videos photos and multi colored things it can't be finded, You need to look with max attention. I used Nova launcher to hide the status bar. I also heard that there are 2 different things, image retention which is fixable and permanent burn in. I searched for something like this but I don't seemed to find something good. I don't know what it is,I never browsed the Web without changing the pixels where the status bar is for more than 20 minutes. I heard burn in occurs in extreme cases. I don't know how this happened so that's why I'm asking you guys. I don't know even what to do it bothers me only in display tester, but otherwise the screen is perfect. Please give me an advice because I don't want to have a faulty screen.. Can it even be repaired under warranty for that?

No one knows what's the problem?

Maybe you could post a photo ?

Look at the top of the screen...That's actually what I'm seeing when looking on a blue test background.This kind of discoloration/brightness where the notification bar usually is when in portrait mode.This is not a screenshot or photo ,it's just a blue image that i modified to show about i'm talking about.It also happens on grey and white and cyan .I couldn't take a photo because i have a crap 7 MP shooter ,and one crapper 2 MP shooter on my old Galaxy Y.I tried them both but noone of them can catch thatstrange discoloration/burn-in/brightness
Xda don't let me to post links..That's the link without the X'es so delete X from this link to go to the image hXttp://i4XX4.tinypic.coXXm/2w4g39j.jpgX
I really don't know what this can be.

I have the same problem! I noticed it a few weeks ago. The bar on top, when in full screen mode, is slightly brighter/lighter compared to the rest of the screen. I can see it the most when using the browser. The screen looks slightly more yellow compared to the grayer (or something like that) bar. Remember the bar is not actually there, just the discoloration in its place. I have no idea what is causing this and I'm hoping it's not hardware related.

It ain't hardware if it shows up in a screenshot. Looks like the exact dimensions of the status bar, almost as if it's compositing it or it's shadow placeholder where it expects it to be. Try a different ROM, or install the Simplistic Framework and try changing the status bar's colour and transparency setting, see if it makes any difference.

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It ain't hardware if it shows up in a screenshot. Looks like the exact dimensions of the status bar, almost as if it's compositing it or it's shadow placeholder where it expects it to be. Try a different ROM, or install the Simplistic Framework and try changing the status bar's colour and transparency setting, see if it makes any difference.
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I wrote that.It doesn't show up in screenshots.I edited a blue picture to look exactly like my phone screen.The problem I think it's the screen itself.And the reason for why I edited a picture is that as I said my shooters can't spot it.Any ideas?Also I use the stock ROM ,un-rooted..Everything stock ,including the notification bar.I just have a custom launcher wallpaper and widgets...

It shows up when you turn the phone in landscape mode as well. It remains on the side as a vertical discoloration where the notification bar resides when in portrait mode. I'm not pleased to say the least.

Techweed said:
It shows up when you turn the phone in landscape mode as well. It remains on the side as a vertical discoloration where the notification bar resides when in portrait mode. I'm not pleased to say the least.
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Exactly what's happening to me.

Made in china phones r crap..made in korea by samsung is gud quality

If you have the warranty the warranty, why not use it? Since the problem is from the phone itself.

This is same like what happen to OG note..i thought sammy already solve the problem when they using RGB instead of pentile on our note 2.. this is not good...
I check mine, so far nothing yet. But i afraid now!!
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naimmkassim said:
This is same like what happen to OG note..i thought sammy already solve the problem when they using RGB instead of pentile on our note 2.. this is not good...
I check mine, so far nothing yet. But i afraid now!!
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I also thinked that it won't happen on Note 2 too ,but here it is.I'll go further and I'll send it in the service ,after my holiday ends.This thread is good to maintain active because it may help people that also came along this problem

I always set brignest to auto and screen movie mode. So maybe it did save mine from that problem
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naimmkassim said:
I always set brignest to auto and screen movie mode. So maybe it did save mine from that problem
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My phone was on Dynamic and Full Brightness all the time.I love oversaturated and bright screens.LOVE AMOLED <3

Well I found a solution to the problem. It takes time to pull off and is still a work in progress for me but it's working.
I created an image that matched the resolution of the phone screen. I then made a rectangle at the top of this image that presents the exact size of the status bar and colored it white. The rest of the image was colored black.
I installed an app that keeps the screen on without dimming when plugged into the charger. Overnight I display the image I created with the screen set to stay awake and don't dim at full brightness. So what you see is a black screen with a full brightness white strip where the status bar is supposed to be.
This process quickly "ages" the status bar area and it slowly starts to match the rest of the screen. I've been doing it for almost a week and the difference between the two sections of the screen is starting to diminish. I bet a couple more weeks of this and the difference between the two sections will be gone.

I got the problem as well. And I'm telling as many people as I can because I'm annoying like that. Seriously, I hate the fact that I spent such money on faulty phone...Samsung galaxy note 2. <blech>
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.

Watch can't replicate greys

Hi all,
So I've had my Smart Watch 3 for a while now and overall it's great. There's just one thing that's doing my head in... Any screen that uses grey as a background displays in brown... It's not nice at all. True blacks are fine, but any shade of grey is looking awful...
Here's a screenshot from the device and a photo of the same screen:
I can't post external images so now I can't show my problem... Is there another way of showing my problem?

Well, to show the problem, you could link to an image on Google docs or something. As for fixing it, that is a tall order.

It's a tradeoff of the Trans reflective screen. I'll take being able to see the screen without Backlight.

Indeed.

Night mode isn't as dark

Lying in bed last night I turned on Night Mode. I noticed when I pulled down the notification shade, the top portion was still dimly back lit, so I could see the camera cutout and the edges of the screen, no matter how much I dim the backlight.
Well tonight I fired up my Note 9, put it on Night Mode and pulled down the notification shade, and no matter how bright or dim I have the screen, the top part is BLACK. no light. You can't see where the screen ends and the frame begins.
This isn't a huge deal except for battery savings. When an AMOLED screen is true black, those prices shut off. But since the night mode on the N10+ isn't true black those pixels are still lit up and using power.
When viewing video in Netflix or YouTube the black bars are truly black, so I know the screen is capable showing true blacks, I'm just not sure why Sammy changed Night mode so it's no longer truly black.

I have just experienced the same thing. I have a note 9 as well to compare. I'm actually deeply disappointed. I also noticed screen mode only has 2 options... vivid and natural. Where as note 9 has 4 screen modes. I'm trying to figure things out to see if I can get it to be true black.

It's probably normal since it's a night mode and not a black mode ; in which you wouldn't it to make your screen showing heavy contrasted differences that actually made more eye fatigue than the light one.
Maybe I'll finally like this mode on this new phone.

Nastrahl said:
It's probably normal since it's a night mode and not a black mode ; in which you wouldn't it to make your screen showing heavy contrasted differences that actually made more eye fatigue than the light one.
Maybe I'll finally like this mode on this new phone.
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No I understand it's a "Night mode" but I'm comparing it to the Note 9 and Note 8 Night mode where it became a true black. And I ran it in Night mode almost 24/7 for some battery savings as well. Well that doesn't work if Night Mode is just a dark grey rather than a true black.
And I'm not sure how true black and contrast made for more eye fatigue? Have you never watched a 4K movie? The whole point of high def is high contrast with true deep blacks, bright whites, and bright colors.
I also noticed on the quick access home screen in Samsung Browser on dark mode, it's not longer a true black. Now if you turn on High Contrast mode in the browser settings, then the background is a true black, so that panel is capable of turning off the pixels and going true black. This means it was an obvious design choice.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
No I understand it's a "Night mode" but I'm comparing it to the Note 9 and Note 8 Night mode where it became a true black. And I ran it in Night mode almost 24/7 for some battery savings as well. Well that doesn't work if Night Mode is just a dark grey rather than a true black.
And I'm not sure how true black and contrast made for more eye fatigue? Have you never watched a 4K movie? The whole point of high def is high contrast with true deep blacks, bright whites, and bright colors.
I also noticed on the quick access home screen in Samsung Browser on dark mode, it's not longer a true black. Now if you turn on High Contrast mode in the browser settings, then the background is a true black, so that panel is capable of turning off the pixels and going true black. This means it was an obvious design choice.
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Dark VS black doesn't make much difference battery wise on OLED screens (let me just find the test back and I'll update my post)
Because the notification panel and anywhere else that it matters contains mostly texts and it produce visual retina persistence (not sure if I translated well), plus it's more annoying to read and and eyes accommodate less than in light mode where everything is light too.
There's nothing to do with movies since it's dynamic and constantly changing from a lot of different colours while texts are more static (but going from dark to light scene still hurts)
I agree that it's absolutely a design choice, but in my opinion for the better.

Nastrahl said:
Dark VS black doesn't make much difference battery wise on OLED screens (let me just find the test back and I'll update my post)
Because the notification panel and anywhere else that it matters contains mostly texts and it produce visual retina persistence (not sure if I translated well), plus it's more annoying to read and and eyes accommodate less than in light mode where everything is light too.
There's nothing to do with movies since it's dynamic and constantly changing from a lot of different colours while texts are more static (but going from dark to light scene still hurts)
I agree that it's absolutely a design choice, but in my opinion for the better.
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I gotcha. Makes sense. I'd like to see some tests on black vs dark. I had always heard and though the battery savings was due to the pixels shutting off. It's why the AOD is black and not just dark.
Buts also weird. I'm replying to this direct from the Gmail notification of your reply. So it opened up the webpage in the webview. Well the top bar above the page that says reply to topic and has had the Gmail overflow button is true black. But the status bar right above it is dark grey.
I guess what bugs me most is it makes the camera cutout stick out, even in the dark. Because I look up an I see a true black for on a dark charcoal background. And I can see the screen edges. I preferred on the Note 9 where it all just blended away with the true black.
But yet, when I watch a movie, the status bar DOES turn off completely and you can't see the camera cutout. Just can't figure out the inconsistency.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I gotcha. Makes sense. I'd like to see some tests on black vs dark. I had always heard and though the battery savings was due to the pixels shutting off. It's why the AOD is black and not just dark.
Buts also weird. I'm replying to this direct from the Gmail notification of your reply. So it opened up the webpage in the webview. Well the top bar above the page that says reply to topic and has had the Gmail overflow button is true black. But the status bar right above it is dark grey.
I guess what bugs me most is it makes the camera cutout stick out, even in the dark. Because I look up an I see a true black for on a dark charcoal background. And I can see the screen edges. I preferred on the Note 9 where it all just blended away with the true black.
But yet, when I watch a movie, the status bar DOES turn off completely and you can't see the camera cutout. Just can't figure out the inconsistency.
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It may be because apps got their own night mode colour settings embedded, while all One UI apps got theirs which are different.
Like, if for Google night mode is all black, their apps will just check about system UI night mode trigger and of its on, apply their own settings.
I can only find that reason for it to be such inconsistent.

Nastrahl said:
It may be because apps got their own night mode colour settings embedded, while all One UI apps got theirs which are different.
Like, if for Google night mode is all black, their apps will just check about system UI night mode trigger and of its on, apply their own settings.
I can only find that reason for it to be such inconsistent.
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That's a good point/thought. I hadn't thought of that. Damn...I just like consistency, LOL.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
That's a good point/thought. I hadn't thought of that. Damn...I just like consistency, LOL.
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I totally understand and agree ! Especially when you like what Samsung did with their UI
In an other hand, there's some third party theme that may be of use to have a black theme : https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/themes/theme-anxious-t3921645
I don't know if it's working for the Note 10 yet but I think it's just a matter of time before it do

Nastrahl said:
I totally understand and agree ! Especially when you like what Samsung did with their UI
In an other hand, there's some third party theme that may be of use to have a black theme : https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/themes/theme-anxious-t3921645
I don't know if it's working for the Note 10 yet but I think it's just a matter of time before it do
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I'm using #hex_ and it works very well on Note10+.
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I just use a theme that's mostly black everywhere. No need for night mode..

One UI notification shade isn't actually black for any of the devices on the One UI. I had an S8+ before this and it looked black but if you take a screenshot and measure the color value, you'll see that it's not black. You can do the same thing on your Note 9. Take a screenshot and extract the color value. Or take a screenshot and then transfer that screenshot to the Note 10 and view it on the Note 10. I guarantee that the Note 9 screenshot of the notification shade will look like the Note 10 notification shade. Black will cause AMOLED smearing which isn't good look.

jkgao said:
One UI notification shade isn't actually black for any of the devices on the One UI. I had an S8+ before this and it looked black but if you take a screenshot and measure the color value, you'll see that it's not black. You can do the same thing on your Note 9. Take a screenshot and extract the color value. Or take a screenshot and then transfer that screenshot to the Note 10 and view it on the Note 10. I guarantee that the Note 9 screenshot of the notification shade will look like the Note 10 notification shade. Black will cause AMOLED smearing which isn't good look.
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So I tried this. Set my Note 9 to Night Mode and took a screen shot. Sent it to my N10+. Guess what? The notification shade in my Note 9 screen shot is pure black when viewed on my N10+ screen.
So I did the opposite. Took a screen shot of N10+ notification shade and sent it to my Note 9, and it appears dark grey.
So I'm not saying you're WRONG, but this is proof that the notification shade on Night Mode on the Note 9 (and the Note 8) was SIGNIFICANTLY darker than the N10+. If they aren't true black, then they are so close at to be indistinguishable from it, whereas the N10+ is definitely lighter than black.
I also just used an app to do a color value sample on my screenshots. Note 9 notification shade is #00000. I believe that is true black?
See my attached screenshots. War Machine is Note 9 (The one with the true black notification shade) and the Darth Vader is the Note 10+ (the one with the dark grey notification shade)
To see what I'm talking about, you may need to turn brightness up on your phone or go in a dark room.

Screenshots of color picker showing Note 9 notification shade is #00000 (true black) and Note 10+ is #080808 (not true black).

koppee1 said:
I just use a theme that's mostly black everywhere. No need for night mode..
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I tried this. The notification shade was still dark grey, not black.

Samsung doesn't use black on the N10, it's that simple. They use a form of grey that's fairly close to pure black, however. The avg person probably uses white themes, so I doubt many will take notice.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I tried this. The notification shade was still dark grey, not black.
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Look for a different theme. There are black ones. I'd post mine but I can't seem to post screenshots here.

koppee1 said:
Look for a different theme. There are black ones. I'd post mine but I can't seem to post screenshots here.
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It's all good. I fixed it with GoodLock. I have my stock theme and a true black notification shade again.
Thanks!!

Mr. Orange 645 said:
It's all good. I fixed it with GoodLock. I have my stock theme and a true black notification shade again.
Thanks!!
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Write back when you find a solution to make samsung browser black.cheers.

As Nastrahl pointed out it the pixels don't need to be completely off to save a lot of power. I was going for total black but since I adjust brightness manually a little bit of tint to the black looks nicer and makes it easier to gauge the brightness.
You can use the Good lock app Quickstar to make the pull down notification panel any color or darkness level you want. Mine is almost black with a hint of forest green.
My wallpaper is even darker with the same green tint.
When the brightness is too high the wallpaper's green tint is noticeable otherwise it looks black.

Blue tint on my Galaxy m51 while using dark mode.

I've enabled dark mode on my phone. And while scrolling through Instagram or any other app I can see that when the black region in the photo moves it leaves behind a blue/navy tint. The same is true when swiping the photos in gallery and other places as well. The issue doesn't occur when using the normal light mode. Are you guys also facing this issue?*
You won't get to see it directly. But then if you notice carefully you'll observe this. It occurs mainly when there's a change in colours while using dark mode. Like when there are images, checking for wallpapers on 3rd party apps, social media, etc. Do let me know about it.*

This is really bad news. I avoided the Galaxy A71 for this reason and with your comment I'm now seeing signs that that the Galaxy M51 has those same issues.
If anything I have to avoid grey import websites now because I want to be able to refund the phone if I encounter the same problem.

shashanks_33 said:
I've enabled dark mode on my phone. And while scrolling through Instagram or any other app I can see that when the black region in the photo moves it leaves behind a blue/navy tint. The same is true when swiping the photos in gallery and other places as well. The issue doesn't occur when using the normal light mode. Are you guys also facing this issue?*
You won't get to see it directly. But then if you notice carefully you'll observe this. It occurs mainly when there's a change in colours while using dark mode. Like when there are images, checking for wallpapers on 3rd party apps, social media, etc. Do let me know about it.*
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I have the same issue, I thought that comes along with amoled displays

shashanks_33 said:
I've enabled dark mode on my phone. And while scrolling through Instagram or any other app I can see that when the black region in the photo moves it leaves behind a blue/navy tint. The same is true when swiping the photos in gallery and other places as well. The issue doesn't occur when using the normal light mode. Are you guys also facing this issue?*
You won't get to see it directly. But then if you notice carefully you'll observe this. It occurs mainly when there's a change in colours while using dark mode. Like when there are images, checking for wallpapers on 3rd party apps, social media, etc. Do let me know about it.*
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Don't have this problem on my m31s while using dark mode may because m51 uses csot amoled display?
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-m51-ditch-samsungs-oled-panels/amp/

Update.
I went to the Samsung service center in Bangalore. They checked it out too and were like it's the first time someone reported this. And they couldn't do much about it. Also they showed me a few s9's and some other samsung devices with sAmoled displays and the same blue tint issue was there but a little less. So there's nothing to worry about. But I still kinda feel bad about it. Having to look at it all the time xD

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So there's nothing to worry about.
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There is, the fact that this issue appears on other phones doesn't make it any better for people who end up with a inferior looking display.
Especially considering that this is the most visible when using dark theme and displaying black in general and 100% black is why a lot of people go for OLED displays.
This actually makes me think I'd be better off with an LCD if AMOLED screens have issues with burn-in, color tint and smearing.

My m51 (brazilian one) have this blue tint thing, and also the screen didn't got calibrated very well, so the white seems to be a little green. So I calibrated it