[Q] Question about updating device - Paranoid Android Q&A

Hi there
I'm planning to flash both my Nexus 7 WiFi & Nexus 5 to Paranoid Android 4.0 Beta 3.
I've always loved PA and it seems nice to have both of my devices running on it.
Though, I wonder about updates. If, in some time, Beta 4 happens to come around, will I be able to update through the OTA update app?
Although I know it's a beta, I'm planning to have a few games and stuff on it and I don't want to lose all my data and stuff when the update is going to happen.
I've read something about that OTA updates are actually "dirty flashes" and it can mess up some things on your device.
What's the best way to update?
Thanks a lot

EdgySer said:
Hi there
I'm planning to flash both my Nexus 7 WiFi & Nexus 5 to Paranoid Android 4.0 Beta 3.
I've always loved PA and it seems nice to have both of my devices running on it.
Though, I wonder about updates. If, in some time, Beta 4 happens to come around, will I be able to update through the OTA update app?
Although I know it's a beta, I'm planning to have a few games and stuff on it and I don't want to lose all my data and stuff when the update is going to happen.
I've read something about that OTA updates are actually "dirty flashes" and it can mess up some things on your device.
What's the best way to update?
Thanks a lot
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Yes it is a dirty flash but as on the same rom this does not effect anything and will be fine.
Happy flashing.

foxguard said:
Yes it is a dirty flash but as on the same rom this does not effect anything and will be fine.
Happy flashing.
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Thanks! Just read the same when I asked on Google+!
Cool, looking forward to the fourth beta

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[Q] Rom Recommendations

Hey,
I had a horrible bootloop-infection on my phone today for no reason; maybe its the sign to replace the Rom; i had a milestone 5 from AOKP [ around june WTF??!?) installed and was enjoying it till this day;
I was waiting for the last 4.2 Rom update from AOKP but since no update for the last month i decided to get something new and fresh instead, so thought to come back here and ask you guys thos flash junkies or just people who realy enjoy their current ROM;
I wasnt here for 6 months due to studying in the university so most of the names are new to me in the Development section that's why i realy need the help to choose;
I dont need much only good battery life; option to remove the notification bar and to have the navigation bar transparent or invisible;
Currently sitting with 4.0.2 clean recovery Rom that i made on the start of February o0 build waiting for responses;
Thank you;
Well, I am not using any of these custom ROMs so I am always supporting the idea of going over the main thread of the most popular ROMs in the development section then choosing whatever seems reasonable to you. Try it, then if any complaints then go for another.
If you really want a 4.2 AOKP ROM, then check this
I hope you have a break from the university so you can play with these custom ROMs
Thank you ahmadallica;
I'm studying software engineering so my free time is for sleep only currently thats why i ask for guidance due to the fact i dont have much time to test each Rom;
The Rom you gave looks realy nice from the outside but sounds more of a huge nightly build instead of a stable one, with so many stuff missing and probably he just uses the AOKP frame without adding/updating/changing any stuff moreover the lack of changlog and an overall [work/not work] stuff that the rest of the Rom developers show suggesting its just an amateur one; i really appreciate this dude's hard work but i need something stable for half a year and not to be one of this Rom testers;
Highly recommend paranoid android, been through leads of custom ROMs and I've stuck with this the longest ... give it a go, excellent team and excellent ROM
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Muzzys 4.2 is super smooth and has a few nice mods...running it for 5 days now 4.5/5 .
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I'm realy liking what i see on Paranoid one tho; looks awesome;
Only question is are there any themes which support it or can u adjust color yourself from inside the system?
Muzzys looks like a full slim version with no additional features not sure thats what im looking for;
vitalero said:
cant find a thread for Muzzys to cheack it out
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Well, I searched for MMuzzy's and it is available here.
Be careful because I found that in the "Verizon" section so do NOT flash it if you are running a GSM GNex
vitalero said:
I'm realy liking what i see on Paranoid one tho; looks awesome;
Only question is are there any themes which support it or can u adjust color yourself from inside the system?
Muzzys looks like a full slim version with no additional features not sure thats what im looking for;
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Paranoidandroid is definitely the way to go. The new version is still in beta but almost completely stable in my opinion. Themes are hit or miss at this stage of the ROM but yes, you can adjust the colors for the navbar, statusbar, navigation icons and statusbar icons within each app. It can be found in settings/paranoidpreferences/apps.
I've been using this rom since v1.98, it's now at 2.99 BetaNINE and I have not looked at anything else.
*Sidenote, PA used to be CM based up until version 2.54, starting with 2.99 Beta1 it is now AOSP based for a smoother and faster experience with better battery life. This is why some features are not yet added back and other things are not fully perfected (i.e. themes).
The problem with themes is that with every new Beta of PA comes some new code and the themers cannot always keep up with every new release so a lot of themes end up causing issues. I would just customize as I recommended above for now and once AOSPA 3.0 is released PA will be out of beta and easier to find compatible themes.
Yes you can adjust the colour of the status bar and nav bar for each app individually from with the hybrid engine within the rom... Most play store themes support it too... anything else just let me know
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Thank you dankblaze for all that info;
I realy dont need that much of customization just that all bars/system/screens be with the same color and to be able to adjust that 1 color myself;
Is that possible in the new 2.99 or should i get the 2.54?
dankblaze said:
Paranoidandroid is definitely the way to go. The new version is still in beta but almost completely stable in my opinion. Themes are hit or miss at this stage of the ROM but yes, you can adjust the colors for the navbar, statusbar, navigation icons and statusbar icons within each app. It can be found in settings/paranoidpreferences/apps.
I've been using this rom since v1.98, it's now at 2.99 BetaNINE and I have not looked at anything else.
*Sidenote, PA used to be CM based up until version 2.54, starting with 2.99 Beta1 it is now AOSP based for a smoother and faster experience with better battery life. This is why some features are not yet added back and other things are not fully perfected (i.e. themes).
The problem with themes is that with every new Beta of PA comes some new code and the themers cannot always keep up with every new release so a lot of themes end up causing issues. I would just customize as I recommended above for now and once AOSPA 3.0 is released PA will be out of beta and easier to find compatible themes.
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+1 agreed, with the colours I've not found the need for themes lately
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You def can change all colors in pa.ran it for a week...each app has a color setting too.
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CM - simple,smooth,stable with great support. The father of the most roms mentioned here .
vitalero said:
Thank you dankblaze for all that info;
I realy dont need that much of customization just that all bars/system/screens be with the same color and to be able to adjust that 1 color myself;
Is that possible in the new 2.99 or should i get the 2.54?
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Definitely use the newest 2.99 version. Much better experience.
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Sorry for asking this but how exacly do i update my recovery? ive got one which i updated last time 10 months ago a touch recovery still working smooth; can i update it from inside it? or i must download a newer recovery and install it ON the old one? links to recommended/newest/best recovery would be kindly accepted;
Also forget to ask what kernal goes best this days;
TY'
vitalero said:
Sorry for asking this but how exacly do i update my recovery? ive got one which i updated last time 10 months ago a touch recovery still working smooth; can i update it from inside it? or i must download a newer recovery and install it ON the old one? links to recommended/newest/best recovery would be kindly accepted;
Also forget to ask what kernal goes best this days;
TY'
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Personally, I like TWRP so check this on how to install it easily. Take note that if you have CWM nandroid backups then they will NOT be compatible with TWRP because it has its own nandroid backups.
As for kernel, just try them till you find a suitable one
Thx bro, i might give it a try tho is there something wrong staying with CWM ? i dont care much for the backups im gonna format it anyway. but i read inside you say it not for Gnex and thats its only for the Nexus 4? is that true?
vitalero said:
Thx bro, i might give it a try tho is there something wrong staying with CWM ? i dont care much for the backups im gonna format it anyway. but i read inside you say it not for Gnex and thats its only for the Nexus 4? is that true?
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No no. That was for the other member in that thread who was mentioning a Nexus 4 version. TWRP works on both of them. Basically just download the Goo Manager app then it will install the correct version automatically just follow the steps to save some time for your software engineering studies
I will copy the steps below so you don't have to worry about that link in my previous post.
1- Run GooManager app
2- Click on the upper right 3 dots for settings
3- Click "Install OpenRecoveryScript"
4- Confirm Recovery Install --> Yes
5- Confirm download, reboot, and install --> Yes
6- A download process will start then it will be installed
7- (Optional) Reboot into recovery to ensure that TWRP is successfully installed and working.
And no there is nothing wrong with CWM, I just personally like TWRP
If you are staying with CWM, then just update it to the latest version before installing any 4.2 ROM. I think installing/flashing the latest CWM recovery can be done easily using the "ROM Manager" application from the Play Store
Jb sorcery latest is great and has every tweak you can think of, very stable and they have inverted gaapps!!!
sent from my spell ridden galaxy nexus
vitalero said:
Thx bro, i might give it a try tho is there something wrong staying with CWM ? i dont care much for the backups im gonna format it anyway. but i read inside you say it not for Gnex and thats its only for the Nexus 4? is that true?
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I recommend using TWRP. There were some problems with multiple media folders being created when flashing with CWM. I know latest TWRP did not have this problem. Don't know if latest CWM still does this or not.
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What I would like is a simple ICS rom, but there are none!

Yep.
I just wish there was stock ICS for the HOV. Vanilla ics rom is close but it still has sense left over.
cm9 is far too unstable, and all my attempts at flashing various roms of JB are instable/not daily driver ready.
There don't seem to be any truly usable roms for this device. Stock sense is the only build in which everything works.
It's either one thing or another. If the camcorder works, the build might not work with simple apps like voxer. If voxer works, then mms won't work. If JB runs perfectly stable, then maybe the camcorder doesn't work. Does a rom that works without bugs like this exist? Here are a list of things I would need in a daily driver rom:
1. Camcorder- I'm a skater and I like to film fun edits of me and my hoodrat friends doing hoodrat things on our skates.
2. MMS - Such a simple necessity.
3. App compatibility -It drives me crazy when my important apps like voxer, instagram, facebook, and launchers lag badly or crash every time I open them
4. LAG - this is why I can't upgrade to JB, I thought provision Rom was AMAZING until I started using my apps (see #3)
5. Simple Multitasking
6. Random reboots - doesn't bother me too much but I could see it happening in some situation where I would need the phone immediately and have to try and explain to someone that "Herp, muh super custom droid phone likes to reboot so you'll just have to wait."
So far the only thing I can think of doing is building a stock ics rom (which I have no idea how to do). Any tips, first timer here.
Right now I just flashed back to stock and am going to run the de-sense tool. Why must OEMs ruin everything we love?
I hate to complain like this and I'm very glad there are devs working on the problems I describe. I guess I'm just venting my frustration. I love this phone but I have spent so much time trying to get a stock android experience that works. I would just buy galaxy nexus or an S3 but I'm a college and pre-paid cheap phones are the only way to fly right now, man. Sorry to sound so negative throughout the post but these are simply my observations in contrast with my needs and wants.
BTW first post on here. Don't hate me plz.
What do you mean CM9 is unstable?
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ryanlow134 said:
What do you mean CM9 is unstable?
Sent from an awesome phone
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Exactly cm9 is 100% stable. Do a fill wipe before you flash
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ok thanks! The only cm9 I could find was on the cdma dev forum and it said a number of things including the camcorder didn't work.
...and then I googled it and found exactly what I needed. Flashing now. We'll see how this works. Was there something I'm missing? I looked at this one [CDMA/PRIMOC][ROM] Unofficial CM9 for PrimoC Beta
480p video recording kind of suck but it'll have to do I guess.
Before u go knocking on peoples stuff how about u make a effort to fix it ur self and u can't say well I don't know how. Well sir u know that little company that bought android os yea sell they Also have a easy to use search bar and so does this little site u are on
And last how about u try and talk to the developers by posting in threads and asking if thus is a problem or even try p.m the developers the problem and I know that for sure u never messeaged me about a application messing up on our provisions rom
Thanks for using provisions ROM and do remember have a nice day.
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Please check user's face. We are not responsible for your 'horrific' experiences while trying custom roms build by us if you are too noob enought to not do a full wipe before you flash a rom.
Thank you and see you in the other side!
1ceb0x said:
you are too noob enought to not do a full wipe before you flash a rom.
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No. Just because this is my 3rd post doesn't mean I haven't done my homework.
sbkjuggalo said:
And last how about u try and talk to the developers by posting in threads and asking if thus is a problem or even try p.m the developers the problem and I know that for sure u never messeaged me about a application messing up on our provisions rom
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I did for the Vanilla ICS rom. Sorry about yours but I was going through a series of JB on my device and they all had the same problems with app compatibility/stability.
DrZaiusIsAlive said:
No.
I did for the Vanilla ICS rom. Sorry about yours but I was going through a series of JB on my device and they all had the same problems with app compatibility/stability.
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Dude before flashing you must wipe your device properly.
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DrZaiusIsAlive said:
No. Just because this is my 3rd post doesn't mean I haven't done my homework.
I did for the Vanilla ICS rom. Sorry about yours but I was going through a series of JB on my device and they all had the same problems with app compatibility/stability.
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Don't know about comatibility/stability. Using CM10 from Lloir and works flawless for me, and yes, I'm using mms, camcorder, apps of a wide range, and yes, this is my primer and only phone, so I can say that it is stable too. Only camcorder problem I found that autofocus is somehow misbehaving in video recording.
Full wipe is essential for stability if you flash a rom that is based on something else, than the last one you used. I even erase sometimes the sdcards android and secure partitions if must. I tried Lloir's slimbean just this morning and seems promising enough, really thinking about to change to that rom permanently.
Full wipe means:
Factory reset (this will delete cache and dalvik cache - this will also remove the .android_secure folder)
Wipe system
Flash rom
Flash the correct kernel in bootloader
Reboot your phone
Voila, rom without any issues at all!
Don't tell me you did all these and you still have problems with JB and other custom roms. I just don't buy it. Everyone here that uses a custom rom are so enthusiastic about them, they don't even wanna get back on sense. I am having Paranoid Android on my One V from the moment I started making the rom for us, since August. From then onwards, I've only used this rom. I don't think that there are any kind of instability with it, because I test my roms before releasing them so if it was unstable, why should've I used it for more than 4 months now?
1ceb0x said:
Full wipe means:
Factory reset (this will delete cache and dalvik cache - this will also remove the .android_secure folder)
Wipe system
Flash rom
Flash the correct kernel in bootloader
Reboot your phone
why should've I used it for more than 4 months now?
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1. I do all those. This is is my third android device. I used to have a galaxy tab 2 rom'd with cm10 and it was awesome. But even it had some problems with app compatibility. I got my learning in on that device. I nearly bricked it 3-4 times haha.
2. We use our phones differently. There are probably a ton of apps I use and a ton you don't. I know for sure that draw something is incompatible with JB itself.
I'll probably flash PA soon if some issues pop up with the cm9 build I'm using now.
Draw something is compatible with jellybean no doubt since I installed it on my HOV and it works.

CM Version Updates

Hello everyone I did a quick search and couldn't find anything.I would like to know who handles the updates for the CM version of the phone. Is it Oppo or the CM team? Will there be OTA updates or do we have to manually download and install?
Thanks in advance.
Invalid_GR said:
Hello everyone I did a quick search and couldn't find anything.I would like to know who handles the updates for the CM version of the phone. Is it Oppo or the CM team? Will there be OTA updates or do we have to manually download and install?
Thanks in advance.
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CM will handle the CM version. Oppo will supply updates to their software, but CM will handle the actual ROM itself.
Right now there's only one build released. I have a new build that I'm checking out now, but it's still on 10.2. We should see CM11 very soon, and I predict that it will come with the official Google software built in, so there won't be a need to flash gapps. I might be wrong about that, but I think that's how it will work.
I'll post the link for the update very soon in the correct section.
Invalid_GR said:
Hello everyone I did a quick search and couldn't find anything.I would like to know who handles the updates for the CM version of the phone. Is it Oppo or the CM team? Will there be OTA updates or do we have to manually download and install?
Thanks in advance.
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Software should be coming out tomorrow, can't wait.
Cyanogenmod does have their new CM Installer software for Windows and Android. If you're not familiar with fastboot, installing recoveries, and all that....it may be the easier way to go....in fact, I'm curious to try it myself.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/oppo-n1-cyanogenmod,25495.html
I am more interested to see how this will work not only for the N1 but for future CM phones.
Imo if they want to go official they should provide the stable versions OTA to begin with.
Harfainx said:
CM will handle the CM version. Oppo will supply updates to their software, but CM will handle the actual ROM itself.
Right now there's only one build released. I have a new build that I'm checking out now, but it's still on 10.2. We should see CM11 very soon, and I predict that it will come with the official Google software built in, so there won't be a need to flash gapps. I might be wrong about that, but I think that's how it will work.
I'll post the link for the update very soon in the correct section.
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I'm fairly certain that CM11 won't have included gapps until an official "stable" release occurs.
Only the released version of 10.2 has been approved by Google.
Entropy512 said:
I'm fairly certain that CM11 won't have included gapps until an official "stable" release occurs.
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I'm talking about the official build of CM11. Steve Kondik has informed me that the build is almost ready to roll. They're just waiting on a few last details... Which I assume is the inclusion of gapps.
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All People Update CM. there is the cm-11-20140724-NIGHTLY
First update to the latest nightly in CM page, after that you can update via OTA in your phone, there is Daily updates!!
O-Click, Works, meaby a second lag (while focusing?)
O-Touch Works, not as the touchpad of your lap but works, And for some reason changing the VM to ART works better for me.
3G works
Battery last very good, and its suposed to las more in stand-by if you use ART instead of Dalvik
ART works well by the way.

i got my new asus zenfone2 ze551ml should i root?

title says it all thanks
Do you want to use anything that requires root? Then yes. You don't? Then no.
I personally do use apps that require root, plus I enjoy having full control over my phones, so I immediately root, unlock the bootloader, and install a custom recovery. But that's not for everyone.
Just use it for a week and see if there's any functionality you miss. Or to put it a different way: when in doubt, no.
well i use xmod b4 but now i cant even if i root my phone cos its x86 i have htc desire x b4 rooted.
but this fone i see a lot of threads "UNOFFICIAL" on rooting, unlocking bootloader, rom and etc... so im 50/50 i dont
want to brick this phone even if its cheap..
t0per666 said:
well i use xmod b4 but now i cant even if i root my phone cos its x86 i have htc desire x b4 rooted.
but this fone i see a lot of threads "UNOFFICIAL" on rooting, unlocking bootloader, rom and etc... so im 50/50 i dont
want to brick this phone even if its cheap..
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its your choice but i personally would...and the unofficial methods work perfectly fine..im getting the 4GB RAM variant today and as soon as i get it im rooting, unlocking bootloader ,installing my Xposed Modules and stuff.
Depends on why you'd want to root. I like tinkering and using Adaway, so it was a no brainer for me.
smokinjoe2122 said:
Depends on why you'd want to root. I like tinkering and using Adaway, so it was a no brainer for me.
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adaway is always a must for me when I root its the very first thing I install lol
Its your choice. Like what others mentioned. Depends on what you need.
YES. The bloatware is ridiculous. I'm probably going to write a tutorial on how to do everything start to finish if you're buying a new 551. Not that bad if you have all the files. Really easy, but good grief, are all the tutorials out there now confusing. Most don't even tell you, you need to downgrade... Took me hours to figure it out. Finally, have a debloated rom, root, and busybox installed so I can install Kali Linux
Yeah the bloatwares! But i think im gonna wait till android m has been released thanks all?
t0per666 said:
Yeah the bloatwares! But i think im gonna wait till android m has been released thanks all��
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Same, I am going to wait until Android M as well. I found that when you root phones b4 they get their "improved" stock firmware, the modem/wifi/bluetooth never seem to flash the same and are always buggy. I am being careful with this phone because it works quite good minus the terrible battery life, but on my OnePlus One, I found a 40% increase in battery life even on the early early Android M roms. Seeing that there is no roms even being worked on for 6.0, I am going to play it safe...after all, some of the bloat can be removed without root. Of course not the annoying ones though
djfirestorm said:
Seeing that there is no roms even being worked on for 6.0, I am going to play it safe...
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Wrong. Better than just being worked on, an alpha of CM13 has been released today.
kanagawaben said:
Wrong. Better than just being worked on, an alpha of CM13 has been released today.
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Yep that literally posted about the same time I made the comment lol. But having official firmware for Android M built by ASUS themselves, then having it customized by Asus would be better. I do not mean to insult CM, but I have yet to see a truly stable version of their software. Every phone I have had has shown to have issues with CM based roms. It's not the guys customizing the roms, its just the fact that CM is more universal and not necessarily developed for this specific phone by the original coders. Modded code always has issues, and if it comes out perfect, I hope these big companies pay whoever mods it to perfection and gives them a phat paying job. I want ZenUI, its one of the best non AOSP UI out there IMOP. I only want root to clean out the extras I don't want/need. It has more customization than a phone needs for the most part.
I am waiting also.
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Quick question about unlocking and rooting.

Besides a few apps, why root the 5T? I have rooted every phone I have ever had, but the 5T has most of what I want.
That being said, I am a flashaholic and am having withdrawals. If I do root and flash a custom rom, is EVERYTHING working or are there still issues being worked on?
thanks for any insight.
Same here. There are a few things I would like by rooting but I don't want to loss some things that only cone with oxygen os. Like the super quick face unlock. Hopefully Oreo comes out soon.
warblad13 said:
Same here. There are a few things I would like by rooting but I don't want to loss some things that only cone with oxygen os. Like the super quick face unlock. Hopefully Oreo comes out soon.
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i flashed the beta version they released..
nixie2121 said:
i flashed the beta version they released..
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How is it? is the navigation bar while in screensaver mode still white?
nixie2121 said:
Besides a few apps, why root the 5T? I have rooted every phone I have ever had, but the 5T has most of what I want.
That being said, I am a flashaholic and am having withdrawals. If I do root and flash a custom rom, is EVERYTHING working or are there still issues being worked on?
thanks for any insight.
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I am the same sometimes. I got stock and I am happy for a few weeks but then watching development threads I start to get withdrawals and have to root and ROM again, then I go back to stock and on and on.
LiquidRemix is pretty solid and the main ROM I flash from time to time. Everything works on the latest official builds and the battery is insanely good. The camera suffers from time to time but that is expected as the code/drivers are not openly available. Other than that LR is amazing with excellent dev work and support.

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