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[Q] How to create an Apps2SD partition.

I'm using ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.1 and i've seen a couple of guides where I go into the recovery and do some bits and bobs there to create it, but the only options I seem to get are to mount the sd-ext partition, which fails because it doesn't exist, or to format it.
I'm guessing there is a step beforehand i'm missing?
Thanks

download rom manager from market , open it , then create a ext3 partionion ... done
before you create a partition , backup your sd card!!

y2viks said:
I'm using ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.1 and i've seen a couple of guides where I go into the recovery and do some bits and bobs there to create it, but the only options I seem to get are to mount the sd-ext partition, which fails because it doesn't exist, or to format it.
I'm guessing there is a step beforehand i'm missing?
Thanks
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I had the same problem.
You can create the partition using the ROM Manager app downloaded from the market as yasars said.
Alternatively, if you want to do it manually, you can format the card on a *nix system. The Gparted Linux app lets you edit the partitions in a nice and simple GUI. Just remember the order of the partitions: first fat32, then about 512 MB of ext2/3/4 (ext4 may not be supported by all ROMs so better to use ext3) and lastly a swap partition of about 32 MB (totally optional). The size of the fat32 partition is whatever is left over after you've allocated the 512 MB for the ext2/3/4 partitions (and the 32 MB for the swap if you decided you wanted it). For instance, for a 2GB card, leaving 512 MB for the ext2/3/4 partition (no swap) leaves us with about 1.5 GB for the fat32 partition. You do the calculations for your card in your head or on paper and use those values in Gparted.
HTH.

Thanks for the help guys
I think i'll just get it up and running using the ROM Manager and if I find the need I'll do a manual version

Foolowing this guide I partitioned my sd card with GParted Live CD.

gianton said:
Foolowing this guide I partitioned my sd card with GParted Live CD.
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You have no Idea how cool it is for me that my tutorial was useful... ;-)

chrysochire said:
You have no Idea how cool it is for me that my tutorial was useful... ;-)
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Yes it should be a sticky!

Having a problem when I try to use ROM Manager.
I select the 512 for EXT and 32Mb for Swap and the phone reboots.
It then shows the big triangle with Mr Android next to it until I press some buttons and then I get the recovery screen with the following messages
Finding Update Package....
Opening Update Package....
Verifying Update Package....
E:failed to seek in /cache/update.zip (Invalid Arguement)
E:signature verification failed
Installation Aborted.
I don't have a cache folder on my sd card so i'm guessing it's looking in the internal memory?
Not sure what to do here

BACK-UP sd card before you do this.
For windows users
have clockwork recovery and rom manager on your desire
then format sd in windows.
put it in your desire and go to rom manager.
select Partition SD Card
select your space i used 32 swap 512 ext
than reboot and your sd card has the ext partition.
than put your files back on your sd card and Done

y2viks said:
Having a problem when I try to use ROM Manager.
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I had the same problem with ROM Manager. My solution was to downgrade ClockworkMod Recovery to v2.5.0.0 (in ROM Manager) and then partition the card. Worked on first try.
When you're done you can upgrade to latest version again if you want.
I don't think you should use a swap partition, so just set it to 0 MB.
Good luck!

Do i just need to find the 2.5.0.0 update.zip file and flash?

going to 2.5.0.0 worked
so now i have the ext partition do I need to do anything for apps to be installed there, or will they install there by default?
Also i've heard that the ext partitions can be 2 3 or 4. I'm presuming higher is better. How do I go about finding what mine is and how can I upgrade it if it need it?
Thanks

chrysochire said:
You have no Idea how cool it is for me that my tutorial was useful... ;-)
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Hi, I'm also going to give your guide a go. Just one question, do I have to do it with the SD card still in the phone or can i do it with a SD USB adapter?
Thanks,
Joe
I read the tutorial again and you can use an SD adapter, worked a treat. Cheers

y2viks said:
going to 2.5.0.0 worked
so now i have the ext partition do I need to do anything for apps to be installed there, or will they install there by default?
Also i've heard that the ext partitions can be 2 3 or 4. I'm presuming higher is better. How do I go about finding what mine is and how can I upgrade it if it need it?
Thanks
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As long as you have an ext2/3/4 partition and the ROM you're flashing has A2SD support (check before you download the ROM), you are not required to do anything more. To check whether A2SD is working once you've flashed your ROM, download the Android Terminal Emulator app from the market and use the following commands
Code:
su
ls -l /data
You should see your app directory pointing to /system/sd/app and app-private pointing to /system/sd/app-private
I'm not sure which format ROM Manager defaults to, but you can always check the type of format used by mounting the card in Linux and using the GParted Linux app (you could use a card reader or use the 'Disk Drive' option in your phone to connect it to the computer). Also, ext3 should be fine for most custom ROMs. In fact, not all ROMs support ext4.

ikkokusenkin said:
As long as you have an ext2/3/4 partition and the ROM you're flashing has A2SD support (check before you download the ROM), you are not required to do anything more. To check whether A2SD is working once you've flashed your ROM, download the Android Terminal Emulator app from the market and use the following commands
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- Another quick way is to install quick system info from the Market, it tells you infos about your system, including the use of your a2sd partition.... ;-)
- About ext 2/3/4 I would advise the use of ext3, as ext4 is poorly supported by Roms (even those who pretend seem to have issues...)
cheers

Does the decrease of available internal storage means apps22sd+ is not working? I've partitioned twice and installed seperate 2.2 roms with apps2sd+ included and every time I install more things I see internal storage drop.
You should see your app directory pointing to /system/sd/app and app-private pointing to /system/sd/app-private
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I checked this and it's doing what you said

ikkokusenkin said:
As long as you have an ext2/3/4 partition and the ROM you're flashing has A2SD support (check before you download the ROM), you are not required to do anything more. To check whether A2SD is working once you've flashed your ROM, download the Android Terminal Emulator app from the market and use the following commands
Code:
su
ls -l /data
You should see your app directory pointing to /system/sd/app and app-private pointing to /system/sd/app-private
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I took the liberty of including this information into my tutorial. I added a reference to you. ;-)
I hope this makes it to Sticky one day... ;-)

bloosteak said:
Does the decrease of available internal storage means apps22sd+ is not working? I've partitioned twice and installed seperate 2.2 roms with apps2sd+ included and every time I install more things I see internal storage drop.
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Not in itself, no. Those symbolic links mean that A2SD is working fine. However, from what I understand about the theory, even A2SD installs a part of the app into the internal memory. That may explain the drop you see. By the way, how much free memory do you see on your device? I usually have about 140 MB free on my Desire. I read somewhere that if A2SD wasn't working, that figure would be about 90 MB.

chrysochire said:
I took the liberty of including this information into my tutorial. I added a reference to you. ;-)
I hope this makes it to Sticky one day... ;-)
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Thanks. Although, I can hardly claim to have come up with the idea myself.

ikkokusenkin said:
Not in itself, no. Those symbolic links mean that A2SD is working fine. However, from what I understand about the theory, even A2SD installs a part of the app into the internal memory. That may explain the drop you see. By the way, how much free memory do you see on your device? I usually have about 140 MB free on my Desire. I read somewhere that if A2SD wasn't working, that figure would be about 90 MB.
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108 free total of 148
I just recently opened spare parts apps where it allowed me to change where apps2sd installs things. By default it was set to automatic and I'm guessing that was causing the problem. I set it to external and tried installing a browser while my disk was mounted and it wouldn't let me do it. Then I set it to charge mode and it installed normally.
Some roms probably default to external while some automatic.
edit: Just installed an app that I previously installed while using "automatic" and it still uses up internal storage instead of A2SD storage. Dunno what's wrong. I am using ext2 partitioned through rom manager.

[Tutorial] Create SD-EXT Partition W/Clockwork Mod 1.2

No Need To Use G-Parted or other complicated tools!!!!
I have fully tested the new CWM 1.2 and can now confirm that you can now make SD-EXT partition for use with APPS2SD+. Below is a step by step guide on how to do it:
Download the CWM v1.2 from RaiderX's Post and remember to say thanks!!http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898913
RaiderX Instructions for new user;
1. download one of the partition files, if you don't know which one you need, use the 250M one or check with rom developer.
2. Extract downloaded zip to a folder of your choice
3. Copy contents of copy_to_sd_root (initrd.gz and zImage) to the root of your sd card
4. boot into magldr and select USB Flasher option while phone is connected to PC
5. Run DAF.exe included in the zip and follow onscreen instructions.
6. After complete, again boot into magldr and select "Boot AD SD" option
7. ClockworkMod recovery should load, you can flash a rom from here.
Now once you have done this:
> GO to advance and then partition SD card
> Remember this will wipe the sd card so back everything up if need be
> Choose how much space you want on the partition then then choose 0MB for swap
>PLEASE NOTE PARTITIONING WILL WIPE THE SD CARD SO YOU WILL NEED TO GO INTO USB STORAGE MODE IN MAGDLER AND COPY THE 2 FILES FOR THE SD CARD FROM THE CWM DOWNLOAD
>and hey presto your done
> Remember you need to use an APPS2SD+ rom for this to work!
There are many benifits of this using EXT-Partition such as you apps will automatically transfer to your partition and many others you'll find out for yourself
Please Note: Not every app will get stored on the SD-EXT partition no matter what you do as there meant for the internal memory

i have 2 gb mcard,need help

Just follow the instructions doesn't matter on the size of your memory card, just choose an adequate size for your partition

raymando said:
Just follow the instructions doesn't matter on the size of your memory card, just choose an adequate size for your partition
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you might want to add that this will also wipe the CWM files off the SD card so will need to use the USB Mass Storage option in magldr to copy the files back over

good
Thanks for this simple tutorial, bro. But may I ask. What is swap. What the best recommended size for it. Sorry for noob question.
edit: just know to select 0mb. Thanks

OK thanks for that

the partition is only ext3
is that a problem?

m1167 said:
the partition is only ext3
is that a problem?
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Thats not a problem as most roms support this its EXT4 that some roms don't support, but check the rom thread just in case

kangmas said:
Thanks for this simple tutorial, bro. But may I ask. What is swap. What the best recommended size for it. Sorry for noob question.
edit: just know to select 0mb. Thanks
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i selected 256 Mb any problem ?
i have done partitioning before this posts arrival .. works with MDJ ginger bread i think...

I have the same question...whats the swap size ... I put 256

sathara said:
i selected 256 Mb any problem ?
i have done partitioning before this posts arrival .. works with MDJ ginger bread i think...
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EclipseX said:
I have the same question...whats the swap size ... I put 256
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Not flash yet. Quick question, What the internal storage size after you flash mdj gingerbread.

kangmas said:
Not flash yet. Quick question, What the internal storage size after you flash mdj gingerbread.
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total 286
available 237 mbs

SWAP= 0MB
Its to do with having a external ram cache but you need to put 0MB!

i have a 16gb sdcard, and i was amazed at how quickly it formatted and partitioned my sdcard, but when i loaded my rom it hadn't done anything lol. so i tried one more time and then i noticed it was taking a bit longer so i felt it was working and it did. just sharing my experience. might take more than one try

wolfpack612 said:
i have a 16gb sdcard, and i was amazed at how quickly it formatted and partitioned my sdcard, but when i loaded my rom it hadn't done anything lol. so i tried one more time and then i noticed it was taking a bit longer so i felt it was working and it did. just sharing my experience. might take more than one try
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At first if you don't succeed try again!

If we do a SD-EXT partition for use with APPS2SD+, will installing/uninstalling app lag? And how is the performance when compare to installing in phone memory?

10507 said:
If we do a SD-EXT partition for use with APPS2SD+, will installing/uninstalling app lag? And how is the performance when compare to installing in phone memory?
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No it will not lag and performance wise its should run faster as it has more space to place with and will not decrease the internal phone memory

raymando said:
No it will not lag and performance wise its should run faster as it has more space to place with and will not decrease the internal phone memory
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Will all applications be installed in this extension? And will it cause any error when application, that required install to phone, are installed in this extension. For example,in MDJ CM7 2.2, Angry bird is required to install in phone memory in order to work.

10507 said:
Will all applications be installed in this extension? And will it cause any error when application, that required install to phone, are installed in this extension. For example,in MDJ CM7 2.2, Angry bird is required to install in phone memory in order to work.
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It wont cause any error like i said before not all applications cant be installed to the ext partition so some applications will be installed to the internal phone memory, As for angry birds it will automatically install to the SD-Card partition as i have bot the season and normal version installed and they both run fine on the SD-EXT partiton

where could i get APPS2SD+ from ?

[Q] SD partitioning!?

Hi,
I have been googling an searching in this forum all seem to get is ooold posts...
My issue is partitioning my SD since the internal memory disappears like yesterday. From what I have found the proper way to do this is to connect the SD to external device ---> boot linux and do it in gparted (Ubuntu 11.04 liveCD).
Yeah, that work like a charm... NOT... well actually it partitions the fat32 and ext4 partition... not problem but when I try to mount the ext4 partitions it doesnt work! I presume it suppose to work...
The other thing I tried was to partition with clockwork recovery, that to worked fine but no partition.
- Hope I understand this correct but if one would partition in clockwork recovery I would be able to see this partition in gparted when done, right?
- And when I start to partition the SD I should have one fat32 partition consumes the whole SD or should I leave the size of ext4 unpartitioned?
Can someone pretty please guide me thrue this please... and before you say it Yes I have found previous guides about this but not work for me...
What is the latest Clockwork recovery and Amon RA recovery?
- Which one work best with partitioning?
Oh, I should perhaps mentions what phone and ROM....
Phone: HTC Desire
SD: Sandisk 32GB class 6
ROM: GingerBurst (seems good) or if somebody have any other suggestion... like sence and weather widget....

CRzz said:
What is the latest Clockwork recovery and Amon RA recovery?
- Which one work best with partitioning?
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Check out the recovery in my signature.

Hi,
I also had loads of probelms with this...
If you want to partition you SD card via recovery i strongly recommend AmonRA.
If partitioning via gparted didn't work for your sdcard (which is odd...) i recommend using a simple Windows app called MiniTool Partititoning Wizard (it's free)...so just dl that app,enable usb debbuging on your Desire,plug in the phone,run the app, and follow this simple video tut> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCV7Eu1pjWQ

k3lcior said:
Check out the recovery in my signature.
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Wow... I did.... flashed that recovery...at the moment I am flashing ROM.
Will let u know if it works, noticed that the recovery always say that my sd-ext partition is unformated everytime when I start it... thats odd.
I will let u know if it works.
BIG thank you this far!

Oh, I must forgotten to post what happened...
I was not able to flash new Rom with my 32gb SD but when I tried my 4gb SD card it worked fine. I would guess that there is something wrong with my SD card. I shall buy a new one and se what happens...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

CRzz said:
Oh, I must forgotten to post what happened...
I was not able to flash new Rom with my 32gb SD but when I tried my 4gb SD card it worked fine. I would guess that there is something wrong with my SD card. I shall buy a new one and se what happens...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Before doing that make sure that both your partitions are primary and you have unchecked the "Take ownership of filesystem" option in Disk Utility from Ubuntu.

paul.c said:
Before doing that make sure that both your partitions are primary and you have unchecked the "Take ownership of filesystem" option in Disk Utility from Ubuntu.
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Thats something new... I didn't see anything about that in the guides. Can that option give me my issues if enabled?
Which if the two default partitioning tools are you referring to in Ubuntu?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

CRzz said:
Thats something new... I didn't see anything about that in the guides. Can that option give me my issues if enabled?
Which if the two default partitioning tools are you referring to in Ubuntu?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I only know gparted (gnome partiton editor).

MatDrOiD said:
I only know gparted (gnome partiton editor).
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Muuu... No change there....

[Q] Partitioning before flashing ROM?

I am a bit noob so go easy on me...
I have my wildfire rooted and wit CMD 7.1 RC but i whant to try other ROMS. The one I want is RUYMANCA 7.2.
In his post he talks about partitioning but i don't really understand how this should be done.
Do i do it after flashing or before?
Does the "a2sd" command does this automatically?
How can I do it?
Can someone give me a small step-by-step?
Thanks in advance

Partitioning is necessary only if you want to use apps2sd scripts.
You can do it from the rom manager or from the recovery. Or you can use pc utilities like "gparted live cd" to partition your memory card.
Sent from my Blade using XDA App

And to complement Bharat: it is not necessairy to install a2sd. It is a script that makes an ext-partition on your sdcard that can be used as an extention of the internal memory. So android will act as if its internal memory is expanded. This is usefull because really all apps can be put on the sd-card. Drawback is of course that your sdcard capacity will be less.
If you ever want to do that, you can easely partition your sdcard from the "advanced" menu in clockworkmod recovery.
Erwin

Thanks for the answers.
I will try that, then. I'm sure there is a thread that explains the partitioning process, i will try to find it.

Do I need to get S-OFF in order for A2SD to work properly ???
Would appreciate comments pls ...

MoTTTo said:
Would appreciate comments pls ...
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This should help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...m.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340

Can't boot 2nd time into any ROM

Doesn't matter what custom ROM I use, after the installation they all work until I restart the phone again (I restart the phone after clean ROM installation to see if it will boot, and it never does). After flashing any ROM I flash CronMod INT2Ext4, I have 512MB sd-ext (8GB SD Card). Can anyone help me with this? I would be thankfull.

srtjko said:
Doesn't matter what custom ROM I use, after the installation they all work until I restart the phone again (I restart the phone after clean ROM installation to see if it will boot, and it never does). After flashing any ROM I flash CronMod INT2Ext4, I have 512MB sd-ext (8GB SD Card). Can anyone help me with this? I would be thankfull.
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Why would you flash INT2EXT4 on any ROM that you flash? By the way, do you delete the already existing a2sd scripts from the ROM before flashing INT2EXT4?

dvsk69 said:
Why would you flash INT2EXT4 on any ROM that you flash? By the way, do you delete the already existing a2sd scripts from the ROM before flashing INT2EXT4?
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I flash for more internal storage, I know there are other ways, I just didn't know how to do them. And I don't delete any a2sd scrips, looks like I do most things wrong...

srtjko said:
I flash for more internal storage, I know there are other ways, I just didn't know how to do them. And I don't delete any a2sd scrips, looks like I do most things wrong...
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try flashing the rom without flashing INT2EXT4. Most roms have built in a2sd scripts, which allow you to move apps to an sd ext partition.

Also, how did you create the partition, best done with 4ext recovery or gparted.
512MB is also quite small, might want to consider 1-1.5GB.
As above, just flash Rom without another a2sd script as most have them built in or activate with terminal commands, check each thread. Which Rom are you using?

eddiehk6 said:
Also, how did you create the partition, best done with 4ext recovery or gparted.
512MB is also quite small, might want to consider 1-1.5GB.
As above, just flash Rom without another a2sd script as most have them built in or activate with terminal commands, check each thread. Which Rom are you using?
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I created the partition with CWM Recovery, I'll look for the guide and make one with 4ext.
I want to use 1Gig but that INT2EXT4 guide said that I need 100mb internal storage per every 512mb sd-ext. (and I had like 150mb free intenal)
ROM I want to use is AOKP CM10. Don't know how to activate a2sd, and I don't need to know it if 4ext recovery will do it...

srtjko said:
I created the partition with CWM Recovery, I'll look for the guide and make one with 4ext.
I want to use 1Gig but that INT2EXT4 guide said that I need 100mb internal storage per every 512mb sd-ext. (and I had like 150mb free intenal)
ROM I want to use is AOKP CM10. Don't know how to activate a2sd, and I don't need to know it if 4ext recovery will do it...
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making the partition using cwm may have been your problem. Use this guide to remake the partition. Im assuming you want to use VJ's CM10.1 ROM. If this is the case, there is no need to use INT2EXT4. Instead use the preinstalled a2sd script.
After flashing the rom, you can activate a2sd by doing the following:
Open terminal emulator provided in the rom.
Type the following commands
su
a2sd install
Y
N
Y

chromium96 said:
making the partition using cwm may have been your problem. Use this guide to remake the partition. Im assuming you want to use VJ's CM10.1 ROM. If this is the case, there is no need to use INT2EXT4. Instead use the preinstalled a2sd script.
After flashing the rom, you can activate a2sd by doing the following:
Open terminal emulator provided in the rom.
Type the following commands
su
a2sd install
Y
N
Y
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Yes, that's the guide I'm looking into now, but the ROM I want to use is VJs AOKP ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863780
It doesn't have a2sd I think...

srtjko said:
Yes, that's the guide I'm looking into now, but the ROM I want to use is VJs AOKP ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863780
It doesn't have a2sd I think...
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It does. And you activate it the same way, as how i said above.

chromium96 said:
It does. And you activate it the same way, as how i said above.
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Ok, thank you, now just one more thing. I have to remove the previous sd-ext partition and I can't do that on PC cause disk managment doesn't recognize it, it shows 6.87GB free, I think it should be about 7.3GB cause its 8GB SD. Can EXT4 recovery do that or should I find some program on PC?
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I figured it out.

srtjko said:
Ok, thank you, now just one more thing. I have to remove the previous sd-ext partition and I can't do that on PC cause disk managment doesn't recognize it, it shows 6.87GB free, I think it should be about 7.3GB cause its 8GB SD. Can EXT4 recovery do that or should I find some program on PC?
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In 4ext, there is an option to "Remove all partitions and start from scratch". Im guessing that deletes/wipes your fat32 partition as well, so back your files up.
If you want to delete it without the fat32 being formated too, you can use gparted. But thats a bit time consuming and a hassle.