I'm getting some conflicting information and just wanted to get it straight.
I've been told by someone whom I think is reputable that it is possible to gain root after taking the 4.3 update.
I know from the Rumrunner S-off thread that S-off is not achievable yet but that doesn't necessarily mean rooting is impossible.
Can someone set me straight here? Is it possible to root 4.3 but still be S-on?
Thanks.
Vref said:
I'm getting some conflicting information and just wanted to get it straight.
I've been told by someone whom I think is reputable that it is possible to gain root after taking the 4.3 update.
I know from the Rumrunner S-off thread that S-off is not achievable yet but that doesn't necessarily mean rooting is impossible.
Can someone set me straight here? Is it possible to root 4.3 but still be S-on?
Thanks.
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When the phone first came out you could unlock the bootloader at htcdev, but that lasted 1 day. I'm unaware of any ways to root without rumrunner.
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Thanks.
I was under the impression one could root provided the phone was still running 4.2. In that case rumrunner would work. However I didn't think there was any way to root 4.3. Not go s-off, just root.
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Thanks.
I was under the impression one could root provided the phone was still running 4.2. In that case rumrunner would work. However I didn't think there was any way to root 4.3. Not go s-off, just root.
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Check out the rumrunner thread...4.3 is close
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brholt6 said:
Check out the rumrunner thread...4.3 is close
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LOL...been checking that thread multiple times daily since before I even got my One. It's only been two weeks since I came over from the Rezound.
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LOL...been checking that thread multiple times daily since before I even got my One. It's only been two weeks since I came over from the Rezound.
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Yea, I had this phone s-off but I returned to stock to have the camera repaired so I got stuck on 4.3. I had a Verizon replacement but decided to keep this phone since it was perfect after the camera repair...glad I did! Can't wait to get s-off again.
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brholt6 said:
Yea, I had this phone s-off but I returned to stock to have the camera repaired so I got stuck on 4.3. I had a Verizon replacement but decided to keep this phone since it was perfect after the camera repair...glad I did! Can't wait to get s-off again.
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Hopefully it won't require anything like the "wire trick" on the Rezound Don't really want to go through that again. Still, really looking forward to ridding myself of all the bloat.
Firewater will be posted when it's done. I believe it will root 4.3. I had a one on 4.3 never used it but for a day and realized the reception was horrible and so I called Verizon and complained and they sent me this one that is 4.2 now which I rooted.
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Firewater is live now. You can find it at firewater-soff.com
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Please report whether it works here
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Please report whether it works here
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Beaups has said it will. You will probably have to use the temp root method.
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Ok thanks
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I'll revert to stock, locked and s on too to try it out after taking the ota so it should work. Anyone know if we have a decrypted ruu for 4.3 already, I already have all the others.
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selayan said:
I'll revert to stock, locked and s on too to try it out after taking the ota so it should work. Anyone know if we have a decrypted ruu for 4.3 already, I already have all the others.
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No there isn't one. Maybe you should wait for someone that really needs to unlock. It would suck bad to lose root over that. I've seen people lose root doing stuff like that before is why I don't advise it.
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disconnecktie said:
No there isn't one. Maybe you should wait for someone that really needs to unlock. It would suck bad to lose root over that. I've seen people lose root doing stuff like that before is why I don't advise it.
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Yeah thats a good idea. I know there are members here with a stock s on phone with 4.3 so I should wait. I always ruu back to stock and root again after messing with my phone a lot, like changing cid to run a Google edition ruu, stuff like that. Done it twice on 4.2 with no issues.
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Someone confirmed it works for 4.3 so root away.
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I'm already rooted but might as well ruu to stock, get ota and then get firewater and might as well do it for fun.
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selayan said:
I'm already rooted but might as well ruu to stock, get ota and then get firewater and might as well do it for fun.
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Lol have at it.
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So I ran firewater temp root, and it said everything was good to go.
However, I do not seem to have root access -- I tried Root Checker app and TWRP Manager.
Am I missing a step here? I'm running 4.3 OTA.
Thanks.
Flash a custom recovery and then a Rom of your choice. Twrp should mention if you have root or not.
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I have had the 2.3 stock ruu installed with no issue for a while, and today my phone decided the screen would not accept input in certain areas, I.cant swype st all and I cant hit certain letters in the regular keyboard, I have tried a factory reset and cleaning my screen, anyone have any ideas?
I can't even go to verizonn because I have the gb leak on thee phone, can I downgrade?
please help thanks
no
10 char
Have to be s-off to downgrade
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patience is a virtue,
Even though this doesn't help.. I will NEVER try "leaked" software for my phone again after it bricked my Inc1. Only officially releases and only ROMs by our great devs.
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06stang said:
Even though this doesn't help.. I will NEVER try "leaked" software for my phone again after it bricked my Inc1. Only officially releases and only ROMs by our great devs.
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You require an xtc clip at this point, or just wait until the ota lol which is why you should have just waited
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Throw against wall....insurance claim lol :kidding,kind of:
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cvo515 said:
Throw against wall....insurance claim lol :kidding,kind of:
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Just tell insurance you flashed something to it and now it doesn't work. It's not like warranty replacement, with insurance you can get it fixed no matter what you decided to do, so its not illegal. If you want to call insurance feel free to tell the truth
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You require an xtc clip at this point, or just wait until the ota lol which is why you should have just waited
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OTA wont help, since it upgrade from one specific version to another.
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Even though this doesn't help.. I will NEVER try "leaked" software for my phone again after it bricked my Inc1. Only officially releases and only ROMs by our great devs.
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Learned my lesson with the erris.
I think your best shot is to see if there's anyone near you who's willing to let you borrow their XTC clip. You could buy one but they are rather expensive. Good luck.
What is an xtc clip? I have herd of this but I dunno what it is or how to use it. Pardon my HTC noobness! I had a fascinate.
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Are you sure this is even because of 2.3? I flashed it. So I'm kinda concerned now.
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A XTC clip is a piece of hardware that can change bootloader security to s-off allowing you to flash custom roms or in your case return your phone to its stock state.
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mikejaret said:
I have had the 2.3 stock ruu installed with no issue for a while, and today my phone decided the screen would not accept input in certain areas, I.cant swype st all and I cant hit certain letters in the regular keyboard, I have tried a factory reset and cleaning my screen, anyone have any ideas?
I can't even go to verizonn because I have the gb leak on thee phone, can I downgrade?
please help thanks
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This happened to me on my Eris a few times but a reboot fixed it. Try reflasing the ruu?
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Boken Inc2
Like the posting above says, re-do the RUU exe that you used the first time.
After that, take out battery, and restart with volume down and power, then
do a factory reset. After you activate the phone with VZN, it ought to be OK.
Well I didn't have much time to mess with it today, but this evening i formatted the phone twice, and you want to know what fixed it, turning back on auto rotation and then back of again...then magically the screen was letting me type normal again...
But now I'm annoyed seeing cm7 out for this phone, with no way to root the leaked gb rom..
We need s off and root for this phone and the gb leak asap.....
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mikejaret said:
Well I didn't have much time to mess with it today, but this evening i formatted the phone twice, and you want to know what fixed it, turning back on auto rotation and then back of again...then magically the screen was letting me type normal again...
But now I'm annoyed seeing cm7 out for this phone, with no way to root the leaked gb rom..
We need s off and root for this phone and the gb leak asap.....
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You can root the gb leak. You need an xtc clip though
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TRUST ME,
your problem is not the leaked RUU.
It's as stable as can be.
it's a hardware issue and you should just file an warranty claim with vz, don't tell them about anything upgraded unless they ask.
The more i use this leaked RUU, the more i believe it's as close to an official to be released build as possible.
First off I want to say thank you to everyone on this team for being able to get S-OFF for the majority of our phones. My question now since S-OFF is only temporary for the recent exploit of HTC Evo 4g 2.16.001, how would we or can we get S-On in case the phone has to be returned in the future for whatever reason. I have not seen RUU or drivers, many inquiring minds do want to know.
Thanks fellas.
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First off I want to say thank you to everyone on this team for being able to get S-OFF for the majority of our phones. My question now since S-OFF is only temporary for the recent exploit of HTC Evo 4g 2.16.001, how would we or can we get S-On in case the phone has to be returned in the future for whatever reason. I have not seen RUU or drivers, many inquiring minds do want to know.
Thanks fellas.
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Since sprint supports rooted devices you wont need to unroot to take it in for service.
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I would like to thank all the Devs to who made root possible for the HTC Evo 4G 2.3. I appreciate your HARD work! Keep up the great works guys!
Khilbron said:
Since sprint supports rooted devices you wont need to unroot to take it in for service.
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When did Sprint start doing that?
Khilbron said:
Since sprint supports rooted devices you wont need to unroot to take it in for service.
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Huh? When did this happen? lol
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Since sprint supports rooted devices you wont need to unroot to take it in for service.
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What would need to be done if I needed to get mine fixed. Would I just have to put a rooted stock rom on my phone?
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ericbryce said:
What would need to be done if I needed to get mine fixed. Would I just have to put a rooted stock rom on my phone?
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yep
10char
The question was how to obtain s-on after rooting using revolutionary method to return to completely stock.
I am curious as well.
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Khilbron said:
Since sprint supports rooted devices you wont need to unroot to take it in for service.
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Just because Sprint may service the phone might not mean that your warranty will cover it. That's why people would like to turn it back to S-ON before having the phone serviced.
Can I just relock with Freegee accept ota and reroot? Or, is it more involved? After all the issues I've had on both of my phones, I don't want to have to LGPNST again.
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You should be able to. As long as you don't have ANY mods at all. Apps should be fine.
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engine95 said:
You should be able to. As long as you don't have ANY mods at all. Apps should be fine.
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No mods. Does the restore and backup button on Freegee take you to the stock bootloader and original locked state? Lots of trouble with TWRP on this phone. On the evo it worked perfect every time.
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MikeDroid said:
No mods. Does the restore and backup button on Freegee take you to the stock bootloader and original locked state? Lots of trouble with TWRP on this phone. On the evo it worked perfect every time.
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Yes. It should anyway. But if TWRP has been giving you issues, I'm not so sure I'd trust doing the ota. TWRP is our best recovery for now. You might want to update manually.
engine95 said:
Yes. It should anyway. But if TWRP has been giving you issues, I'm not so sure I'd trust doing the ota. TWRP is our best recovery for now. You might want to update manually.
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Yeah. I was noticing everyone doing the manual with radios etc. I guess I can always do LGPNST again. This phone is awesome and a pain in the ass at the same time
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Sent you a PM.
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I'd love to know how this goes. I think I want to do the same thing. I'd rather just use freegee to re-lock it, then re-root after doing the JB update. However, if flashing the radios and then the stock rooted JB update is better then I'd do that. In fact I think that is the same steps as going with lifeless from ZV9 and if that is the case I may do that. Still, I'd love to know if this works while I try and figure out to go with Lifeless or Rooted Stock JB.
bruiserman said:
I'd love to know how this goes. I think I want to do the same thing. I'd rather just use freegee to re-lock it, then re-root after doing the JB update. However, if flashing the radios and then the stock rooted JB update is better then I'd do that. In fact I think that is the same steps as going with lifeless from ZV9 and if that is the case I may do that. Still, I'd love to know if this works while I try and figure out to go with Lifeless or Rooted Stock JB.
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I will let you know. So far everything about this phone and my wife's has been dicey
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bruiserman said:
I'd love to know how this goes. I think I want to do the same thing. I'd rather just use freegee to re-lock it, then re-root after doing the JB update. However, if flashing the radios and then the stock rooted JB update is better then I'd do that. In fact I think that is the same steps as going with lifeless from ZV9 and if that is the case I may do that. Still, I'd love to know if this works while I try and figure out to go with Lifeless or Rooted Stock JB.
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MikeDroid said:
I will let you know. So far everything about this phone and my wife's has been dicey
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If you follow this, it should work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35520144&postcount=1
The ota section. I just ran thru doing all of this, this morning. With and without Freegee. No issues.
engine95 said:
If you follow this, it should work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35520144&postcount=1
The ota section. I just ran thru doing all of this, this morning. With and without Freegee. No issues.
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I would think you do #2a first then accept update. Thank you for the first test run. As soon as I understand accepting update before relocking I'm going to give it a try.
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Engine disregard I see what you mean.
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OK. So....all zvb'd now?
Weird... It said zvb update, I installed it.. took about a minute and rebooted. Still on zv9 and now there are no updates available. Still rooted though. Getting tired of dealing with this phone.
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Very strange. Well, there's still a few options.
1. See if Sprint will swap it out. :/
2. Manually push the update.
3. autoprime and Shelnutt2 just put out a zvb.bin. You can get it from the irc for now. And make sure to follow the directions in the last post of my guide. It had to be modified to get it unlocked.
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Yeah this is phone has had its issues. I appreciate your help. Not sure why it's saying update not available now. I'll wait and decide how to move forward.
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Here's what's happening... I was able to force the OTA by going to apps settings and choosing Google services from All clearing data then force close reboot setting updates lg software update. Accepted, process begins then red triangle and upon reboot, still on zv9. Just in case this helps us understand what's happening. Not eager to do anything with TWRP.
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I don't think beaups mentioned it, or at least he said he wasn't concerned about releasing it which lead to his quick release.
Personally curious as to how sense on 4.3 will be. But wouldn't want the update if its blocked unlocking.
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Rebel908 said:
I don't think beaups mentioned it, or at least he said he wasn't concerned about releasing it which lead to his quick release.
Personally curious as to how sense on 4.3 will be. But wouldn't want the update if its blocked unlocking.
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why take the OTA? if you have s-off why not just flash a 4.3 rom?
This my friend only matters for those that bought a phone after 4.3 is released... First... Soff and unlocked and rooted should NEVER take an ota, cause it could (prob just fail) brick you... Second, if you like stock, I'm sure it will be only a matter of hours before someone releases a flashable HTC stock ROM that will update you... Really, as long as you put cwm recovery on your phone, and only flash Roms thought it, you have nothing to worry about whatsoever...
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Rebel908 said:
I don't think beaups mentioned it, or at least he said he wasn't concerned about releasing it which lead to his quick release.
Personally curious as to how sense on 4.3 will be. But wouldn't want the update if its blocked unlocking.
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Just don't take the ota. Simple...
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I know there are numerous members including myself, that have updated to KK 4.4.2, and just experienced nothing but crap, in comparison to 4.3, which we cannot go back to. But, luckily there is a Galaxy Note 3/Galaxy S4/Nexus 5 god somewhere. They have heard our complaints about the srewed-up update released, and are currently working on the fix, which will be named 4.4.3. This update will fix numerous issues, involving the most talked about, camera and data drops......ps. connection drops, etc. I've read they are currently testing the update, so in other words, they jumped right on it. I hqve been suffering from the 4.4.2 sickness every since the update, wishing I could, or someone find a way to go back to 4.3. I just recently updated my Galaxy S 4, not aware of the troubles, but didnt run full testing method to ensure that I respected the update. I just immediately fell In love with the smoothness and speed, unaware of the crap under the covers. And then I got bold and updated my Beast of Hardware, the Note 3...........and was overwhelmed by the lack of tlc of the update. But threw all the rebooting, the battery pulls, the waiting for sitez to load, the non responsive buttons, they are working to fix this horrible experience. Thanks you Android for wasting time, but at least aorking to fix the problems. Upon release of the fix, I cant wait to see the sweetness the Dev's bring to the table with the new OS fix.
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Why cant you go back to 4.3?
OK? And source?
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Sprint started this by
Posting things on their site. Then pulled it afterwards. Then Sony started after. By we will see.
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you got bad experience on your android
Will 4.4.3 allow third party apps to write to the SD card again like in 4.3? If so I'm game!
Everything I posted in my previous post happened to me. I don't know about sd writing, but like all others, it should. See what I mean, I had to reboot just respond on these comments.
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CZ Eddie said:
Why cant you go back to 4.3?
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Bootloader 4.4.2 is locked, cant go backwards.
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GSXR6 said:
Bootloader 4.4.2 is locked, cant go backwards.
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Wait, I thought all TMO Note 3's were unlocked?
Damn, I just bought one. SHould get here in a couple days. Sure hope it's not 4.4.2. If it is and I can't install TWRP, then it's going back up for sale.
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DarkMage619 said:
Will 4.4.3 allow third party apps to write to the SD card again like in 4.3? If so I'm game!
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Didn't read anything on it, but like all others, it should, hopefully.
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CZ Eddie said:
Wait, I thought all TMO Note 3's were unlocked?
Damn, I just bought one. SHould get here in a couple days. Sure hope it's not 4.4.2. If it is and I can't install TWRP, then it's going back up for sale.
$#@%@[email protected]
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The update of 4.4.3 starts rolling out at 12am, so the bugs of 4.4.2 will be squashed hopefully, just update and see.
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The Note 3 Bootloader is not locked. The Bootloader is Knoxed or secured in a way not to allow to go backwards. I can't remember what it is exactly but the Bootloader is still unlocked on 4.4.2
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Bootloader 4.4.2 is locked, cant go backwards.
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CZ Eddie said:
Wait, I thought all TMO Note 3's were unlocked?
Damn, I just bought one. SHould get here in a couple days. Sure hope it's not 4.4.2. If it is and I can't install TWRP, then it's going back up for sale.
$#@%@[email protected]
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The bootloader is unlocked. Even on 4.4.2. The qfuse won't let you downgrade the bootloader, but it's unlocked. I have the 4.4.2 bootloader with TWRP 2.7.0.0 and running leanKernel, so obviously it's not locked.
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GSXR6 said:
The update of 4.4.3 starts rolling out at 12am, so the bugs of 4.4.2 will be squashed hopefully, just update and see.
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And you can install twrp, just cant go back to 4.3 or any rom of 4.3
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toastido said:
The bootloader is unlocked. Even on 4.4.2. The qfuse won't let you downgrade the bootloader, but it's unlocked. I have the 4.4.2 bootloader with TWRP 2.7.0.0 and running leanKernel, so obviously it's not locked.
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My mistake, just wrong wording.
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Back when 4.4.2 was released a member here that works for Samsung said when it would be released and it was released on the exact day he said it was. He also said another update was already in the works for May so it is no surprise that another should be hitting before long.
chipworkz said:
Back when 4.4.2 was released a member here that works for Samsung said when it would be released and it was released on the exact day he said it was. He also said another update was already in the works for May so it is no surprise that another should be hitting before long.
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Im just glad it is, I have to switch between my S4 & Note 3 just to survive.
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so in 1 month to go another update will be arriving again?
Can't wait for the update.
No internet is pretty irritating.
So, the data drop on KK 4.4.2 is something everyone is having? Its annoying me.