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question about camera

Some people say that certain kernels will change the MP out put of your camera from 8mp to 3mp...is that true? If so how do you tell what your camera is outputting in picture quality?

Adam1422 said:
Some people say that certain kernels will change the MP out put of your camera from 8mp to 3mp...is that true? If so how do you tell what your camera is outputting in picture quality?
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Almost all of the newer, actively developed kernels have completely eliminated this. You can tell because the images will be about half the size/quality of normal pics. You can see whether or not the mp is available in the camera options, also.

Biofall said:
Almost all of the newer, actively developed kernels have completely eliminated this. You can tell because the images will be about half the size/quality of normal pics. You can see whether or not the mp is available in the camera options, also.
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Thanks for the response. I checked the size of one of my photos and its what it should be for 8mp. Thanks again!

Defy 5MP Camera....!

hello
i have motorola defy android 2.2.1 and the camera 5mp but not high quality or like iPhone 4 camera
there r anyways to improve camera ???

Make sure you select the correct resolution in the settings.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021608

ABC_Universal said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021608
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already i see this but i don't unnderstading this
i'am not english

-juanito- said:
already i see this but i don't unnderstading this
i'am not english
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Where are you from?

ToTTenTranz said:
Where are you from?
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Bahrain
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Sent from my MB525 using Tapatalk

And what's your favourite colour?
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Personally, I don't think that the Defy's camera is that bad.
There are several tweaks around the board, but none of them seem to have any effect on the photos' quality. Given appropriate lighting conditions and the usual photographing techniques, the pictures are alright.
You always have to know how to use a camera.

I particularly have problems with taking photos on bright days with lots of sky in the frame. I think the white-balancing over-compensates for this?
I tried meddling around with the scenes and settings but can't seem to find a solution!

-juanito- said:
hello
i have motorola defy android 2.2.1 and the camera 5mp but not high quality or like iphone 4 camera
there r anyways to improve camera ???
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这个好像是有补丁的，找找看。

[Q] Camera optimal settings

Hey there, just got the Z1C yesterday. I've had an XPERIA S and XPERIA Z so I'm familiar with the Sony ecosystem.
I was just wondering what settings you guys use to capture images? I would prefer 16:9, with noise being reduced as much as possible. I don't really mind about sacrificing detail too much if I can get noise levels down.
Right now I use manual mode, 15.5mp, single auto-focus. Automatic White-Balance and auto-iso.
I'm also confused, should I use 15.5MP or 8MP?
Can you also recommend settings for taking pictures in low-light.
I don't suffer from flashbleed problem btw.

theprince1991 said:
Hey there, just got the Z1C yesterday. I've had an XPERIA S and XPERIA Z so I'm familiar with the Sony ecosystem.
I was just wondering what settings you guys use to capture images? I would prefer 16:9, with noise being reduced as much as possible. I don't really mind about sacrificing detail too much if I can get noise levels down.
Right now I use manual mode, 15.5mp, single auto-focus. Automatic White-Balance and auto-iso.
I'm also confused, should I use 15.5MP or 8MP?
Can you also recommend settings for taking pictures in low-light.
I don't suffer from flashbleed problem btw.
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I don't have any advice to offer, however I was considering posting the same question to see what people have found to work the best.

charlatan01 said:
I don't have any advice to offer, however I was considering posting the same question to see what people have found to work the best.
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I don't think we're getting an answer. It's dead here lol.

theprince1991 said:
Hey there, just got the Z1C yesterday. I've had an XPERIA S and XPERIA Z so I'm familiar with the Sony ecosystem.
I was just wondering what settings you guys use to capture images? I would prefer 16:9, with noise being reduced as much as possible. I don't really mind about sacrificing detail too much if I can get noise levels down.
Right now I use manual mode, 15.5mp, single auto-focus. Automatic White-Balance and auto-iso.
I'm also confused, should I use 15.5MP or 8MP?
Can you also recommend settings for taking pictures in low-light.
I don't suffer from flashbleed problem btw.
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http://connect.dpreview.com/post/85...htc-one-mini-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-mini?page=3
Interestingly, the phone is only more willing to use higher ISO when using the Superior Auto (it maxes out at ISO 400 in manual), so if you don't need the full 20.7 MP goodness for post-processing cropping you may be better off with Superior Auto.
Another thing to note from the article comments, their review model is only running JB, and there were some camera improvements introduced in the KK upgrade.
Personally, I stick with 8 MP Superior Auto and only switch to the full 20.7 MP if I prefer to do post-processing cropping.
On a related note, I wished the Manual mode is really fully manual...

blue_quartz said:
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/85...htc-one-mini-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-mini?page=3
Interestingly, the phone is only more willing to use higher ISO when using the Superior Auto (it maxes out at ISO 400 in manual), so if you don't need the full 20.7 MP goodness for post-processing cropping you may be better off with Superior Auto.
Another thing to note from the article comments, their review model is only running JB, and there were some camera improvements introduced in the KK upgrade.
Personally, I stick with 8 MP Superior Auto and only switch to the full 20.7 MP if I prefer to do post-processing cropping.
On a related note, I wished the Manual mode is really fully manual...
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Iso setting can be changed at 8MP up to 3200. in full resoution the option is more limited. (including HDR, scene detection etc)

theprince1991 said:
I don't think we're getting an answer. It's dead here lol.
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I'd go and look at the various threads on the Z1 forum as the camera is basically identical and there's load of good advice on getting the most from the Z1 from users who have had more time to experiment (and there simply being more users full stop).
Bear in mind that since .757 there have been a number of improvements. Auto mode is now actually quite good, especially in good lighting conditions, so some of the advice might be less relevant. I'd have been in the 'NEVER USE AUTO - ALWAYS USE MANUAL' camp but I think you might actually get away with auto now.
I still use manual modes, and have been blown away by the quality of some shots I've had over the last few days.
Like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/phosttk8pa8zkw8/2014-04-19 17.16.28.jpg
and this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5tkgofiylv43w1v/2014-04-19 17.15.22.jpg
(Both using Landscape SCN mode)

jonmorris said:
I'd go and look at the various threads on the Z1 forum as the camera is basically identical and there's load of good advice on getting the most from the Z1 from users who have had more time to experiment (and there simply being more users full stop).
Bear in mind that since .757 there have been a number of improvements. Auto mode is now actually quite good, especially in good lighting conditions, so some of the advice might be less relevant. I'd have been in the 'NEVER USE AUTO - ALWAYS USE MANUAL' camp but I think you might actually get away with auto now.
I still use manual modes, and have been blown away by the quality of some shots I've had over the last few days.
Like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/phosttk8pa8zkw8/2014-04-19 17.16.28.jpg
and this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5tkgofiylv43w1v/2014-04-19 17.15.22.jpg
(Both using Landscape SCN mode)
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That is insane quality . No noise at all. Very detailed. Do you put HDR mode on? What is your focus mode? And what about metering?
I'll try the landscape SCN mode... I have found some pictures I have taken are blurry at the edges but your photo's don't really have that.
trewelu said:
Iso setting can be changed at 8MP up to 3200. in full resoution the option is more limited. (including HDR, scene detection etc)
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I thought the higher the ISO the more it lights up the scene but the higher the noise as well? I thought the best thing to do was to keep ISO low as possible.
blue_quartz said:
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/85...htc-one-mini-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-mini?page=3
Interestingly, the phone is only more willing to use higher ISO when using the Superior Auto (it maxes out at ISO 400 in manual), so if you don't need the full 20.7 MP goodness for post-processing cropping you may be better off with Superior Auto.
Another thing to note from the article comments, their review model is only running JB, and there were some camera improvements introduced in the KK upgrade.
Personally, I stick with 8 MP Superior Auto and only switch to the full 20.7 MP if I prefer to do post-processing cropping.
On a related note, I wished the Manual mode is really fully manual...
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Ok cool, I'm not really into post-processing, I just want to be able to point and shoot quickly and get decent picture quality. One thing that kind of annoys me about this phone is that the flash is very aggressive in manual mode (I set it to auto) and quite a lot of times I have to set it to off manually.
Manual mode is overwhelming enough for me! lol what other settings could there be to tweak?
Thanks for the advice guys, and that link is amazing btw!

No PRO mode in 108 MP??

I just saw this in a review, is this true?
I am personally shocked this is not supported.. That is one of the reasons I want the Ultra, so that is the shot I'm taking is in ideal conditions I can get a full 108 MP photo with amazing results.. Does anyone know if there going to allow in the future?

It's true just discovered this myself

There really is no 108mp. It is 12mp that should be better than other 12mp. I know this is not glitzy as 108mp but is real.
There is no 100x zoom either. There very good 4x zoom
If anything troubles me it is that pro mode does not support the wide camera nor the 4x camera. There is no way to take raw photos with either of those. I find the HEIC abysmal. I need to see if JPEG is any better.
The raw from the main camera looks pretty good though. Perhaps better than other phones. You get verygood 12mp DNG file. That is impressive and great. You can also get RAW from the front camera.
The 4x zoom if not opened at 100% even in heic looks good. Heic though produces some awful smudging of details and halo effects

Kind of defeats the purpose.
AND not having development due to a locked bootloader.
May have to (keep) the favor to iOS side.
Seriously.

cpufrost said:
Kind of defeats the purpose.
AND not having development due to a locked bootloader.
May have to (keep) the favor to iOS side.
Seriously.
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This phone just came out. Give it some time dude

No Pro Mode Except for Standard Wide Angle
Pro Mode (raw format) is a must for me in both Ultrawide and Telephoto. Since this is a simple software fix, anyone hear if and when it will happen? Makes no sense that some beancounter in the system didn't allow full Pro Mode from the start!

Hey guys! Could you download this app called Camera2 Test from the play store? It reads all the features that all the cameras have implemented with the Camera 2 API. I'm curious if a 108mp RAW mode is there. You can go to the full tab in the app and share the file in here. Thanks in advance! (perferably from az exynos device, but both would be preferred!)
EDIT: There is another app Camera2 API Probe. Just need to scroll down, share, and it will generate a link. Sorry for the inconvenience!

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Thank you! I copied it into a link: https://pastebin.com/0MwuVV9L
Please edit your posts since I don't think mods will like these long posts. (dont want you to get into trouble )
EDIT: could you share another report from another app, Camera2 API Probe as well? Just need to scroll down, share, and it will generate a link. Sorry for the inconvenience!

https://airbeat.com/cam2/5e6f8c725c154903f3dd905f

2003vstrom said:
https://airbeat.com/cam2/5e6f8c725c154903f3dd905f
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Thank you!!

kornelkahh said:
Thank you!!
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yes sir!

Camera2 api probe
kornelkahh said:
Thank you! I copied it
Please edit your posts since I don't think mods will like these long posts. (dont want you to get into trouble )
EDIT: could you share another report from another app, Camera2 API Probe as well? Just need to scroll down, share, and it will generate a link. Sorry for the inconvenience!
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airbeat.
[Ignore this space]
com/cam2/5e72ac945c154903f3dd9147

kirilk said:
There really is no 108mp. It is 12mp that should be better than other 12mp. I know this is not glitzy as 108mp but is real.
There is no 100x zoom either. There very good 4x zoom
If anything troubles me it is that pro mode does not support the wide camera nor the 4x camera. There is no way to take raw photos with either of those. I find the HEIC abysmal. I need to see if JPEG is any better.
The raw from the main camera looks pretty good though. Perhaps better than other phones. You get verygood 12mp DNG file. That is impressive and great. You can also get RAW from the front camera.
The 4x zoom if not opened at 100% even in heic looks good. Heic though produces some awful smudging of details and halo effects
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Can you please upload all the raw photos for us? thanks alot!

dazed1 said:
Can you please upload all the raw photos for us? thanks alot!
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I uploaded one raw and couple of post processing options. One is without corrections and the other (warmer one) is to my liking. I used Lightroom.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y9sxeh8b1ne2ak1/AAD8fu5k5OC--tJol2euqjOUa?dl=0
I am yet to do a bit more photography with the S20 ultra. Here is an album of photos I took from a walk before the quarantine in my country. I will put more photos in there as I get more experience with the phone when I go out after the quarantine.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirilk/albums/72157713487224503
It is very fitting to my expectations. I wanted a phone camera that has wide angle and optical magnification higher than 75mm equivalent, Between 100 mm to 135 mm equivalent was my dream. SO S20 ultra is exactly that 12mm wide angle (excellent, 105mm equivalent telephoto is excellent too. There is also the larger main 12MP sensor I like. Yes it can do 108MP with tons of mathematics and that would likely get you a bit more detail at the cost of dynamic range and noise.....
PS I would very much appreciate if Samsung give us RAW files form the telephoto and wide angle. I know wide angle has distortion and likely the telephoto suffers vignetting and or distortion too but Lightroom can fix those things. Samsung should add another camera app meant for photo enthusiasts.. RAW files with high bit depth and latitude for editing in post should be the emphasis there.

kirilk said:
I uploaded one raw and couple of post processing options. One is without corrections and the other (warmer one) is to my liking. I used Lightroom.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y9sxeh8b1ne2ak1/AAD8fu5k5OC--tJol2euqjOUa?dl=0
I am yet to do a bit more photography with the S20 ultra. Here is an album of photos I took from a walk before the quarantine in my country. I will put more photos in there as I get more experience with the phone when I go out after the quarantine.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirilk/albums/72157713487224503
It is very fitting to my expectations. I wanted a phone camera that has wide angle and optical magnification higher than 75mm equivalent, Between 100 mm to 135 mm equivalent was my dream. SO S20 ultra is exactly that 12mm wide angle (excellent, 105mm equivalent telephoto is excellent too. There is also the larger main 12MP sensor I like. Yes it can do 108MP with tons of mathematics and that would likely get you a bit more detail at the cost of dynamic range and noise.....
PS I would very much appreciate if Samsung give us RAW files form the telephoto and wide angle. I know wide angle has distortion and likely the telephoto suffers vignetting and or distortion too but Lightroom can fix those things. Samsung should add another camera app meant for photo enthusiasts.. RAW files with high bit depth and latitude for editing in post should be the emphasis there.
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Thank you so much. If i understand correctly, the flickr photos are before the update, and the dropbox are after the update right?

All photos in the above post use the same software . I got one update immediately as I installed the phone.
G988BXXU1ATBM (there are two more version strings I guess for other hardware modifications) ,431,19MB in size containing the 1st of March security updates

kirilk said:
All photos in the above post use the same software . I got one update immediately as I installed the phone.
G988BXXU1ATBM (there are two more version strings I guess for other hardware modifications) ,431,19MB in size containing the 1st of March security updates
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Thank you for your efforts! I watched a video from India today. They got the ATC1/H update first. It looks very promising, take a look:
https://youtu.be/wZoWAben4CA
The old news about the ATC2 update from Korea are somewhat misleading since the update with the lower number brings improvements that where not to be seen in the ATC2 video from Korean user which we all have probably seen.

I just got an update to .......ATCH and can confirm AF works now pretty well including close up.
RAW from telephoto or wide angle is not available . Camera2 API does not see the telephoto camera.
So I guess AF is likely the only fix.

Question Is my camera working correctly?

Hi guys,
weird question I guess: How do I know my cam is working as intendend?
Tried the CRDroid-ROM, worked great, then I noticed my Cam (Gcam-mod) only does 12,5MP-shots in every mode at max.
Thought it was the ROM, now back to a wiped clean Factory February-image from Google. Yet exactly the same but with way less options.
Still only 12,5MP and compared to my other phones it's not even better. Considering I bought the P6P mainly because of the camera it's a bit of a let-down.
I thought it was 50, 48 and 12,5MP.
Am I too dumb to see my error here or what's up with it?
Thanks for your time.

The camera converts all shots to 12.5 mp. Samsungs does this too. Its false marketing.

Doug8796 said:
The camera converts all shots to 12.5 mp. Samsungs does this too. Its false marketing.
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Ah! So it does have the physical resolution it marketed but uses that as an antialiasing-kinda-thingie for downsampling? So I'm questioning my sanity for nothing and it's all fine? DAMN

Kodijack said:
Ah! So it does have the physical resolution it marketed but uses that as an antialiasing-kinda-thingie for downsampling? So I'm questioning my sanity for nothing and it's all fine? DAMN
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Correct. They use Pixel Binning. That is completely normal behavior. As someone else mentioned Sammy does the same thing.

znel52 said:
Correct. They use Pixel Binning. That is completely normal behavior. As someone else mentioned Sammy does the same thing.
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Thanks man. Didn't know, never cared. Just wondered now if I'm too dumb to operate this simple app
TIL....

Doug8796 said:
The camera converts all shots to 12.5 mp. Samsungs does this too. Its false marketing.
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This actually is false.
You have an option in the camera settings of the Samsung S21 ultra that allows you to take 108mp shots. Full res. They're huge files. But they're awesome when you need all the detail in great lighting. I was SEVERELY DISAPPOINTED that there is NO OPTION to change the Pixel 6 Pro to 50MP. In my book it's still a 12mp camera, which really SUCKS when wanted the bigger picture...

Ok didn't know