So guys, I have some question about knox security.
I have a MK9 build on my Note2 so it's knox enabled.
But my warranty is over so may I want to change rom.
My questions are the following:
If I break knox can I recive OTA?
If not, I able to flash 4.4 if it realised via Odin?
My chip is insane, any knowledge about the sds ony costum rom?
So my main question is, It is worth it to break knox??
Regards
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Hello everybody,
My current device is a Captivate, and I'm thinking about upgrading to an i747. After doing some research in the forums I found out about knox, but find it a little bit confusing, let's see..
1) Has there been any known cases of devices that were shipped with a knox bootloader?
2) In a i747, what does a knox bootloader look like in Download Mode (as opposite to a non-knox one, does it say knox warranty void or something else?)
3) This is where I'm most confused. If you've got a knox bootloader, then you can't downgrade it, and can't flash anything except for new official otas? would anything except the ota void it? can you flash CM11 for example? and if it's void, that means that it's a hard brick? or does it still work? Can you go foward if it's void (again, like cm11)?
4) Let's say the one I get comes with 4.0, I can root and move freely between CM and stock as long as I don't flash 4.3?
I also have the option to go for a S4 Mini, but given it has the same issue and similar hw.. love the S3 screen
Thanks in advance!
Samsung s3, s4, Note 3, etc. that shipped with 4.3 will include Knox.
If the device shipped with Knox, you will see something like warranty bit in the text at the top of the download screen.
If you have a knox bootloader, you cannot downgrade to an earlier bootloader but you can still install a custom recovery and custom ROMs which voids the warranty but does not brick the phone.You can flash any ROM you want with a 4.3 Knox bootloader as long as the ROM does not try to flash a new bootloader.
If you have a stock 4.3 phone and try to load anything that is not official Samsung software, it will trigger the knox counter (change from 0 to 1 or 0x0 to 0x1) and void your warranty. At the moment, there is no way to reset the knox counter to 0.
Yes, if you get a 4.04 phone, you can install a custom recovery, custom ROM, and move freely among custom ROMs if these ROMs are support but the installed bootloader.
I have done all of this with an i747m (Bell version of the s3).
That's crystal clear, I was confused and thought that if you had knox and flashed anything else over it it would brick... but I see now, just avoid bootloaders.
Thanks!
Hi guys,
I am planning to root my N7505 today/weekend but there is one thing I am not sure of .. What will happen to KNOX.
I read somewhere that the KNOX bit will be tripped voiding warranty, for which I don't really care. But will I able to use KNOX feature after rooting. Although I am not using it for now but what if ..
Also what shall I do first, TWRP flash or Rooting ?
Cheers.
Hi there,
Unfortunately, I flashed my i9192 with 4.4.2 (official build) and now I got knox bootloader...
I know that it is almost impossible to remove it, but I would like to know what are the consequences of it...
I mean, can I root my phone as usual? Can I live with knox?
Regards.
You will trip knox and loose warranty other than that the same routine. Root , disable or delete knox.Read Here
s0cks said:
Hi there,
Unfortunately, I flashed my i9192 with 4.4.2 (official build) and now I got knox bootloader...
I know that it is almost impossible to remove it, but I would like to know what are the consequences of it...
I mean, can I root my phone as usual? Can I live with knox?
Regards.
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It is impossible to remove the knox bootloader and flash a non-knox bootloader.
It depends on you: do you care about warranty? If yes than use Towelroot because this wont trip knox (not complete 100% safe but most of the users reported it). I dont know if knox trips when you remove system apps/system files. You can live with knox. In my opinion the firmware is not bloated very much but ,again, it's your decision.
If you dont care about warranty you can use the good old way and flash recovery and flash a rootkit.
Sooo, I'm not entirely new to XDA, I know I should search for things and I have been, if you know a thread that may help, please post and point me in the right direction, thanks.
I just learned about KNOX (Haven't paid samsung much attention in the past year) and wanted to know; is there any way I can root, and install a custom rom/recovery without tripping KNOX?
Or is there a way for me to still use T-Mobile's insurance with a KNOX count of 0x1? I want to move to Android L as soon as it's fully released (or a little after for bugs to move away). Thanks.
devilsmarch said:
Sooo, I'm not entirely new to XDA, I know I should search for things and I have been, if you know a thread that may help, please post and point me in the right direction, thanks.
I just learned about KNOX (Haven't paid samsung much attention in the past year) and wanted to know; is there any way I can root, and install a custom rom/recovery without tripping KNOX?
Or is there a way for me to still use T-Mobile's insurance with a KNOX count of 0x1? I want to move to Android L as soon as it's fully released (or a little after for bugs to move away). Thanks.
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If you want to flash a custom ROM, there is no need to root at all. If you already have a KNOX bootloader (MK2, NB4, and NH7) flashing custom ROMs WILL trip the KNOX counter. No way to get around it. I think you can root MK2 and NB4 without tripping KNOX, but I'm not sure about NH7. Look up towelroot. If you decide the KNOX counter doesn't really matter, CF-Auto Root works for all versions flawlessly.
If, by some strange chance, you are still on the 4.2.2 (MDL or MDB) bootloader, you can pretty much do whatever you want because KNOX wasn't yet implemented on those bootloaders; Triangle Away is all you'd need to return the device to 100% official status. That app only resets the flash counter; it does nothing to the KNOX warranty flag. That can't be reset.
As far as using insurance with an 0x1 counter... chances are it will go through. The reports are mixed; some people haven't had a problem while others have gotten busted.
NOOB alert!
Please forgive me in advance if this question is totally off the mark.
I've been using Fenny's 4.4.2 ROM for a while, under the impression that it is MDL based and I'd still be able to flash back to stock 4.2 if needed, and set the flash count back to 0 -- i.e. keep the warranty.
If I'm totally wrong and my warranty is already voided, can any of you let me know? I can then begin playing with custom roms to my heart's content!
If I was right ... anyway to enjoy any 4.4.4 ROM without voiding the warranty (i.e. with the ability to move back to something which will not have tripped the switch)? If yes, where can I find that info, or can you post detailed instructions?
[I've read that if I switch to MK2 there is no way to keep the warranty if I root. That true? I see many roms claiming to have removes knox ... does that help? ]
I thank you in advance for bearing with me.
It all depends which boot loader your phone has.
If your phone was on the 4.2 MDL firmware, it has no Knox counter active, and you can flash away without making any permanent changes. Note, the firmware on the phone isn't the same as the ROM... for example, I'm using a 4.4.4 ROM (Dirty Unicorns) on my phone which still has the 4.2 MDL firmware. So, if I wanted to, I could return it to stock and there would be no sign it ever was used in a nonstandard way.
However, any newer firmware version on the phone has the Knox counter that gets permanently, irreversibly tripped if you flash a nonstandard recovery (such as the TWRP or CWM most of us use). So, in these phones, there's no way to play with ROMs without making irreversible changes.
Marc