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so my phone i bought off craigslist is blacklisted. what do i doo? can i delete the efs folder and it will work? or like unlock it and it will work on att? what do i do!?
You may be stuck. Did you get any type of proof of purchase off the person. Anyway to prove you bought it from a legitimate owner?
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i bought it off craigslist so i have to proof and the person wont pick up. what do i do!?
Without being able to prove you bought the phone in a legit deal probably nothing. Craigslist is full of this. I also got my phone from craigslist but had the guy meet me at a t mobile store and got a t mobile rep to verify the transaction.
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You may be stuck. There have been three other posts that I can remember about same thing happening. Unless you can providetmobile that you bought it feom that perso. And show he purchased it and didnt steal it, they may be able to take it off blacklist.
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i bought it off craigslist so i have to proof and the person wont pick up. what do i do!?
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You may be stuck. There have been three other posts that I can remember about same thing happening. Unless you can providetmobile that you bought it feom that perso. And show he purchased it and didnt steal it, they may be able to take it off blacklist.
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Something i have been wondering lately... So far, i have only seen documents of the sk4g (my own personal experience) and gs2 being blacklisted. Do all phones now qualify? Only samsung?
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Good job, admitting to insurance fraud on a public board...
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Good job, admitting to insurance fraud on a public board...
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^ hahaha
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There is one of three reasons you're blacklisted.
The phone was reported lost/stolen to Asurion and a claim was made.
The phone is a T-Mobile demo device that was stolen.
It was purchased on a Value plan and the customer defaulted on the bill.
You can try tinkering with the efs but no idea what trouble that will get you in or if that works on the GS2. If you can find the craigslist ad or money order receipt they may reverse it but it might have to go to risk assessment and take awhile.
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WTF??? blacklist? there is no such thing, I'm currently using a GS2 that was "lost" by my GF, claimed on insurance, and "found" by me.
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I was wondering if they considered a difference between lost and stolen. But again, i was told they blacklist for reasons that directly affect them - fraud, theft from a store, or not making payments.
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I thought asurion required that you file a police report if you told them someone stole it before they filed your claim? If you say its lost and found it later they may not blacklist it assuming that most people will . I have heard that at times asurion will allow you to keep your found phone if you claim lost then found it later. Not 100% sure on that.
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I was wondering if they considered a difference between lost and stolen. But again, i was told they blacklist for reasons that directly affect them - fraud, theft from a store, or not making payments.
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i change any phone imei before using it.
who cares blacklist or not, it is censorship, same as SOPA and PIPA.
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I thought asurion required that you file a police report if you told them someone stole it before they filed your claim? If you say its lost and found it later they may not blacklist it assuming that most people will . I have heard that at times asurion will allow you to keep your found phone if you claim lost then found it later. Not 100% sure on that.
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Yep. I have a manager friend at a T-Mobile store who advised me and others to NEVER report stolen.
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cgigate said:
i change any phone imei before using it.
who cares blacklist or not, it is censorship, same as SOPA and PIPA.
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Lol
I wasnt sure you existed
yeah I don't think tmobile or asurion will blacklist a phone if it was lost because if found, it can still be used. However, if someone purposely stole a phone from a store/person, then it would be blacklisted. Not 100% sure but sounds about right.
well the phone is brand new condition. no scratches nothing. you think ill be able to sell it for only $200?
no, keep it as a tablet, or file a police report, and hope to get your money back
Don't sell it or your just as bad as the person who sold it to you
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Don't sell it or your just as bad as the person who sold it to you
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true statement.unless you tell the person exactly the situation the phone is in.maybe a developer can use it
From a glaxay better than yours.
AllGamer said:
no, keep it as a tablet, or file a police report, and hope to get your money back
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Seconded like in every other fraud or stolen phone thread
Will they work on any other carrier if I unlock them?
lol how did you manage that?
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lol how did you manage that?
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So will they work on another carrier?
Yes, they will. Att
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Yes, they will. Att
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Thanks alot man....
sounds like a stolen device...admin should lock these cause its seem very fishy...
just saying, i hate thieves and i'm sure most of us here would be too if your phone got stolen
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sounds like a stolen device...admin should lock these cause its seem very fishy...
just saying, i hate thieves and i'm sure most of us here would be too if your phone got stolen
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Hello I got tricked into buy New phones.. I am not the thief here. I lost alot of money.
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Make sure you flash a skyrocket radio.
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pachi72 said:
Hello I got tricked into buy New phones.. I am not the thief here. I lost alot of money.
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I don't think he was referring to you... I think he was trying to say that Admin should make a sticky that people should really check the phone's imei at tmobile store to see if they're blacklisted.
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Hello I got tricked into buy New phones.. I am not the thief here. I lost alot of money.
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its not new if its "blacklisted" its call buying it used, you would not have this problem if you bought it new.
either way eventually tmobile gonna track you down. keep us updated if it work
i also was scamed i bought a amaze from Clist called Tmobile with imei # and thy said it was good.i used the phone for 3 weeks, then i droped it broke the screen and call insurance to get it replaced thy said the phone was reported lost and will not replace the phone. the insurance company had the phone black listed but tmobile did not.
so now im stuck with a amaze with cracked screen that still works on tmobile but is black listed with insurance.
moral of the story is you have to call tmobile and asurion with the imei # before you buy a phone from someone other then Tmobile
Return it and get your money back. You have been scammed.
It seems that this kind of thing is happening more often since T-mobile started blacklisting phones that are reported list or stolen. Also they are blacklisting phones that have been purchased on a payment plan and the owner terminated the contract and never paid for the phone or the ETF.
Good luck
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I personally stopped trading/selling phones on cl because there are just too many kids and immature people to deal with. plus now with all this there is no guarantee that you are getting a quality product. Just contact the person and demand your money back. Tell them you'll take them to small claims court. You have evidence from Tmobile and Ashton that the phones were reported lost/stolen. And you were not aware of that at the point of sale.
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One way to protect yourself is checking the database at http://www.checkmend.com/us
Ask the seller the phone IMEI before buying. If the phone is not legit you will never hear from the seller.
Which phones are these ???
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Sucks that it's pretty much not remotely safe to buy phones from craigslist anymore. I have been doing it for years and always got the latest and greatest cause some idiot had not idea how much their phone was really worth. But with all this blacklisting now at tmobile, i think i am done with that practice .
Sell them to me ???
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I thoug you guys were smart enough!!
All of you ... All you gotta do its say your phone drop at the peer near the beach or a lake or sumething similar,, and insurance dosnt even care they will send you a new phone ohh also tell them you need accesories cause your dog bit them all haha i have done this **** so many times trust me you just got to call them or visit their website its faster phoneclaim.com, and you will have a new phone.. If you are a little ***** dont try this at home please hahahahaha
why lie? Asurion can see what you own, and what you've been using. You saying these things encourages others to continue this fraud business. You should be banned for saying something like that.
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All of you ... All you gotta do its say your phone drop at the peer near the beach or a lake or sumething similar,, and insurance dosnt even care they will send you a new phone ohh also tell them you need accesories cause your dog bit them all haha i have done this **** so many times trust me you just got to call them or visit their website its faster phoneclaim.com, and you will have a new phone.. If you are a little ***** dont try this at home please hahahahaha
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why lie? Asurion can see what you own, and what you've been using. You saying these things encourages others to continue this fraud business. You should be banned for saying something like that.
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im sharing my info , thats all , you should be banned for been dumb , and no they dont know what you are using, if im writin this its ebecause i know, and obviosly u dont. You just talk bro i suggest you save your words if you havent done this in the past, when you actually do it yourself n find out how does it work, then you can talk
I might be the luckiest person ever. I found a T-Mobile Galaxy S3.
Anyways, can I get in trouble for using the phone? Can T-Mobile somehow track the phone and disable it.
Thanks for your answers.
P.S. The phone has no contact store, so I can't really return it to the owner. The only dialed number is a company.
Go to t mobile store and return it. They will use IMEI to find the owner. If the owner report it stolen tmobile will black list the phone and you may not be able to use it anyway.
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You're not the luckiest person ever. You're a dishonest person who's trying to keep something that's not theirs. Do what the person above me said and contact T-Mobile.
I'd really like to hear how you "found" it.
Just replace the Sim card and use it. Founder keeper. Loser file insurance claim.
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ill buy it from you for $100 bucks
You "found" it lmao..
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Thank for you response
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I'll buy it from you for $200 even after t-mobile has the imei black listed *my secret*
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sarajlija said:
I might be the luckiest person ever. I found a T-Mobile Galaxy S3.
Anyways, can I get in trouble for using the phone? Can T-Mobile somehow track the phone and disable it.
Thanks for your answers.
P.S. The phone has no contact store, so I can't really return it to the owner. The only dialed number is a company.
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What is wrong with you? Return the damn phone. Don't be a loser, thief, lowlife. Do the right thing. Stealing is stealing. Good grief. Is that how your mom raised you? Sad....
toanau said:
Just replace the Sim card and use it. Founder keeper. Loser file insurance claim.
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I hope someone steals an expensive item near and dear to you. We clearly understand your lack of morality. Karma is a *****.
The damn entitlement generation on display. Dumb, greedy, lazy, self centered kids. Just what this world needs more of.
I have witnessed this in forum after forum. Thieves that are too stupid to know what they are doing are coming to the Internet begging for us to help them with their heist. Pathetic.
It won't work after black listed so be careful I would try to take it to tmobile store to
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I am really surprised at all of the responses from people suggesting yuo should keep the phone or better yet, sell it to them! That is really the worst advice anyone can offer, what the hell are you guys thinking? It's dishonest and kind of sh..tty to suggest that they should keep the phone and hope the owner had insurance... if that's how you live your life, I am hope I don't live nearby you - - Karma my friends - the best thing to do would be to return the phone to any T MOBILE Store - what would you want them to do if it was your phone?
the poor soul who lost his/her galaxy s3 is probably pulling there hair and gouging there eyes out by now... so sad...
If I had found this phone, I would do everything in my power to get it back to its owner. When the owner finally gets reunited with the phone I doubt they would leave you walking empty handed however even if they do at least you know you have done a very amazing deed.
Who knows someday you may lose something and some generous soul will return your lost item to you. :angel:
Oh my feelings are hurt by all these strangers judging me online. Why don't you people believe me hehe
I think, I will just keep the phone on for a couple days and hopefully the owner will call
What the hell man, leave the phone in a T-Mobile store.
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so if the phone still has a sim card and it works, just return the phone to tmobile and they will track the number and they could see who it belongs to!
do something great, people will do the same to you.
I agree with everyones (some) responses. I found a iPhone 4S with a pink case. I was able to get ahold of the owner (beautiful girl) and she cried and gave me so many thank yous. She offered $50 but i declined it. If i ever lose my baby (gs3) ...I would hope someone would do the same. Return the phone man..
My insurance was canceled....if I were to lose my phone I'd have to pay full price for a new one. I couldn't afford another Siii.
Return it to Tmo as has been suggested. To do anything less is theft.
If it was my phone, I would activate the mobile security app on the phone and track you down and then the police would arrest you for stealing my phone. But that's just me. By the way, mobile security comes free on most t mobile phones with the correct insurance. I wouldn't risk being labeled as a thief, even if you did somehow "find" it.
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It won't work after black listed so be careful I would try to take it to tmobile store to
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I can make a black listed phone from t-mobile work again with t-mobile not gonna say how but it's possible ....
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hey guys i bought a galaxy s3 on craigslist and i got it for 350 with the box and all accessories. It worked awsome for 1 month but now the owner stopped paying his bill so i cant use it..... i was wondering if maybe i can brick my gs3 do the point where i send it to samsung repair and they cant fix it so i get sent a new phone that has difference imei. Would this work?
lazarat said:
I r fraud promoterz
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Yes let's promote fraud. Great idea.
joshnichols189 said:
Yes let's promote fraud. Great idea.
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Aw man.
ross1998 said:
hey guys i bought a galaxy s3 on craigslist and i got it for 350 with the box and all accessories. It worked awsome for 1 month but now the owner stopped paying his bill so i cant use it..... i was wondering if maybe i can brick my gs3 do the point where i send it to samsung repair and they cant fix it so i get sent a new phone that has difference imei. Would this work?
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Have you tried calling T-Mobile and explaining the situation, or would that not make a difference?
Would they be atleast willing to continue letting you pay what's left of the phone?
theexel said:
Have you tried calling T-Mobile and explaining the situation, or would that not make a difference?
Would they be atleast willing to continue letting you pay what's left of the phone?
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They won't unblacklist an IMEI. Once it's blacklisted you're screwed unfortunately.
That's unfortunate.
As I hope I don't get on the same boat you're in, I too purchased a Galaxy S3 off Craigslist, so far everything's fine.
I've spoke to a T-Mobile rep and the IMEI seems clean, they've added a note on the date I purchased it and was transferred to my account.
I'm still scared what happened to you can still happen to me.
OP, to be honest, your idea sounds like it'd work, although it's on you and you have to know it's not the "right" thing to do.
Just unlock it someone using att or straight talk with att sim, save difference.and buy a new one u dont have to worry about being blacklisted,
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What don't I understand about this?
The owner stopped paying his bill?
He was paying your cell bill while you use the phone?
I don't get it.
How many times is this gonna happen. first of all 350 is pretty cheap to sell a phone like this so u should beware of potential fraud. This is why I never buy anything on craigslist there is no protection whatsoever and tmobile needs to take more responsibility and drop customers who do stuff like this
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You can always change your imei.
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Sell it for 350 on ebay as blacklisted. It could probably go for more. You're lucky you didn't pay 500
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rpavich said:
What don't I understand about this?
The owner stopped paying his bill?
He was paying your cell bill while you use the phone?
I don't get it.
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The original owner bought the phone on contract and stretched the payment for 20 months, he sold the phone to OP, the original owner stopped paying his phone bill, T-Mobile blacklisted the phone.
So the original owner probably bought the phone from Wallmart for $200 without needing to go the rebate route, just extending their contract and then turned around and sold the phone for $350 making a quick $150 profit on a legitimately $650 phone. Lame ass fraud there to begin with if you ask me.
Basically you can change the IMEI but the legality of that is unsound or you can just go with another carrier like ATT or whoever else uses sim cards in their phones.
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So the original owner probably bought the phone from Wallmart for $200 without needing to go the rebate route, just extending their contract and then turned around and sold the phone for $350 making a quick $150 profit on a legitimately $650 phone. Lame ass fraud there to begin with if you ask me.
Basically you can change the IMEI but the legality of that is unsound or you can just go with another carrier like ATT or whoever else uses sim cards in their phones.
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I remember reading that changing imei for this exact reason isn't truly illegal. I know xda doesn't like it being posted or links on how to do it but I totally feel for the OP in this situation. Poor guy just wants to use his phone again on tmobu
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You can always change your imei.
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Yes and then go to prison enjoy your changed imei phone
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Yes and then go to prison enjoy your changed imei phone
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Coming from the guy promoting eBay fraud LOL
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Coming from the guy promoting eBay fraud LOL
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Ebay is not the government lol
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Imei z3x go to a place that has a z3x....
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Of i report my Galaxy S2 lost, will they lock the phone when I use my insurance for a replacement? And what if I don't want them to lock it
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How bout you just flat out buy a replacement?
Don't scam dude. Makes it harder for honest customers to get help when actually need it...
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Stevesteve64 said:
Of i report my Galaxy S2 lost, will they lock the phone when I use my insurance for a replacement? And what if I don't want them to lock it
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That's called insurance fraud what your doing. Technically its a felony.
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I think the guy just asked a question about what would happen. But yes, this is insurance fraud and if you get caught doing this you're slapped with a felony. I'd advise you not to do it.
They would more than likely block the old IMEI anyways since they have it in their database and the old phone becomes a paperweight MP3 player.
TL;DR : The risks are too high and the outcome is too little and more than likely to backfire. Be legit about it.
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Once a device is replaced using insurance or warranty, they will blacklist the IMEI so that it can't be used again on the network in the event that they don't actually receive it.
If a device is reported lost, they blacklist the IMEI immediately and you go about processing your claim.
There is nothing you can do to prevent this, it's automatic, that phone will be blacklisted, no exceptions. If it's found, to whitelist the IMEI again, you have to go through insurance, which will promptly send out a return kit for said device.
You can't ask questions like this on here. This isn't the place for stealing, scamming or anything not legal. This thread will be closed by an administrator
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So a couple weeks ago you were on here asking to buy a T989 to replace your Amaze because you wanted a bigger screen, It appears that you decided to buy it new thinking you can just scam the insurance thing and not actually have to pay for it, or get a second one for free. Not saying you are doing this, just that it appears pretty darn shady when seeing this post along with your previous post a couple weeks ago asking to buy one.
As said above, insurance fraud is a felony but honestly go ahead and report it stolen, wait a few days and call TMO and tell them you bought a used phone. Give them all the info on it they ask for, go ahead, or try to sell it. The buyer will find out it was an insurance scam and TMO knows it's connected to you. Who knows you might(not a chance) have a lucky one that didn't get blacklisted. In reality, I will ROFL when the police show up at your door with an arrest warrant, and they will...but go for it, see what happens. It may be multiple serious federal charges. If you bought it online and it was mailed to you via USPS, they will add the charges of Felony Mail Fraud for USPS shipping, and Felony Wire Fraud for ordering it online. If you bought it in the store then you can expect Retail Fraud to be added.
Let us know how that works out for ya.
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You're not gonna get a lot if helpful responses on XDA when you ask a question pertaining to something illegal.
The forum rules clearly state that these topics are not allowed to be discussed, and no one wants to risk getting banned or even worse the site getting in trouble..
I personally don't care what you do but please take it somewhere else
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