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Hi there, I'm a long standing G2 user switching over to a Galaxy Note II (in the mail). Shopping around for what ROM I should try first, kind of having a hard time wrapping my head around features I should care about and where each ROM is in the stability and completeness sense.
I'm more into the stock Android look and feel, so guessing TouchWiz is garbage I don't want. NFC sounds fun and I want LTE to work once the Tmo network is turned on. Maybe play with some wireless charging. Also really looking forward to having a device with a stylus again, so what S-Pen stuff should I care about? Also are any of the other "S" labeled apps and features from the stock ROM desirable (S-Beam for instance)? Additionally I want to eventually use the thing with an external keyboard and mouse through that nifty dock.
Basically I'm looking for ROM recommendations, got any?
Thanks!
i would recommend you to Jedix9 and Jedi8 ROM...try them out first if they fit your desires
Stock Android
I'm Into Pure/Stock Android As Well
I Would Recommend
[ROM] [AOSP][LINARO] LIQUIDSMOOTH JellyBean [4.2.1] Beta 3.2.1 [t0lte] » Jan 26
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108762
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[ROM][TMO] AOKP JB 4.2.1 [PUB] [Jan - 30] cherry-picks galore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119381
Good Luck!
I'm not saying that AOSP based ROMs aren't absolutely great (because I am running the CM10.1 Nightlys ) but TouchWiz is actually pretty freaking great. I am an AOSP fanatic but I still loved TouchWiz. The only reason I am on CM10.1 is because I just wanted to try it because my previous phone only had CM10, not 10.1.
I will say though, the stock TouchWiz launcher did not have enough options for my so I used Nova Prime. That made it feel like an AOSP ROM from the future because it looked and felt a bit like stock Google code but had all the TouchWiz features I loved.
Basically all I am saying is at least give the new TouchWiz a shot before you wright it off because you may find that you enjoy it.
Happy flashing
I too would recommend jedi 8 as well. It's close to stock (wifi calling), and battery life seems improved.
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Im on JediMaster 8 running perseus kernel. Both are a great combo for battery life. However, I do enjoy me some AOSP.
One question you should ask yourself when deciding if you should use AOSP or TouchWiz is "Am I going to use the S-pen frequently?" If so, go with TouchWiz, if not then I'd say try some of the AOSP ROMs
Jedi X9 with Color HD theme is really cool, very stable and without losing any stock functionality except wifi calling (which if youd rather have then use Jedi Master 9 which dropped last night) basically roms are the same, functionality wise
Top 3
1/ (tie) Jedi X9 or JM9
3 CM 10.1 nightlies (non TW) or some of the debloated stock roms
Recommend looking into kernals too, sometimes they are updated before the rom is and you can OC and UV for more battery/performance
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fandroid93 said:
I'm not saying that AOSP based ROMs aren't absolutely great (because I am running the CM10.1 Nightlys ) but TouchWiz is actually pretty freaking great. I am an AOSP fanatic but I still loved TouchWiz. The only reason I am on CM10.1 is because I just wanted to try it because my previous phone only had CM10, not 10.1.
I will say though, the stock TouchWiz launcher did not have enough options for my so I used Nova Prime. That made it feel like an AOSP ROM from the future because it looked and felt a bit like stock Google code but had all the TouchWiz features I loved.
Basically all I am saying is at least give the new TouchWiz a shot before you wright it off because you may find that you enjoy it.
Happy flashing
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+1 ... couldn't agree more with your assessment... he definitely shou I d give TW a shot and, of course, experince a little bit of CM too.
Cant wait for CM10.1 to get over those final few hurdles
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No wifi calling for me considering my Tmo service is data only.
So is TouchWiz with just stock or do other ROMs incorporate its features?
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No wifi calling for me considering my Tmo service is data only.
So is TouchWiz with just stock or do other ROMs incorporate its features?
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Some roms do incorporate TW but as you mentioned you are more "aosp/aokp" inclined so youll lose out on several features (unless you flash TW based roms)
Key Features lost on non TW based roms include: Multi Window and certain SPen Functions like AirView, Button pressing activities, and a few others
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I'd recommend Jedi x9.. it's great
C.S.
Ok, let me rephrase that question, which ROMs include TouchWiz features? Guessing the Jedi ROMs do? Any others I should look at?
Additionally if I'm going to run a 64gb MicroSD card, what kernel is worth while to test out with?
Thanks for the great replies!
While less popular/known it seems, you could always try Tweaked
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While less popular/known it seems, you could always try Tweaked
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I've got to second the recommendation to check out Tweaked (as well as extend a hearty "Thanks!" to dwitherell for his work)! It's simply a rock-solid implementation of the TW features plus, well, some excellent customizable tweaks One of the first roms that I flashed was from the Jedi X series, but soon after realized that I needed wifi-calling in my apt. so decided to check out Tweaked (1.0 at the time) before flashing Jedi Master, and have stuck with it ever since. Currently very happy / impressed running Tweaked 1.3 with the Perseus 32.1 kernel.
Im loving Jedi X9 wiyh Perseus kernel
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Jedi, Tweaked, or rooted stock. Been running Tweaked since yesterday and it has some very nice features.
G●Note~2 {Jedi X5}
Thanks for all the responses, I've ended up going with Tweaked and am pretty happy with it. Now trying to wrap my head around how to access the SD card from a linux machine.
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Thanks for all the responses, I've ended up going with Tweaked and am pretty happy with it. Now trying to wrap my head around how to access the SD card from a linux machine.
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What are you looking to accomplish? Whats the end goal of accessing your SD Card from linux vs Windows?
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PhxDroid86 said:
What are you looking to accomplish? Whats the end goal of accessing your SD Card from linux vs Windows?
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Everything. I've ended up running files over SSH with a local FUSE mount.
I used the CM9 Rom on my Epic and generally enjoyed it. With the SG3, what seems to be the Rom of choice for most to offer and stability?
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I used the CM9 Rom on my Epic and generally enjoyed it. With the SG3, what seems to be the Rom of choice for most to offer and stability?
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All the touchwiz rom are stable, the difference between them are themes and features like multi window. 4.2 AOSP roms are a w.I.p imo, but the little bugs can be tolerated.
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Like said above, touchwiz is stable but I favor CM10. Awesome ROM. People say AOSP is always buggy, but I can tolerate it. I love cyanogenmod
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Miui or aokp
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@OP, we're steering this conversation towards rom types because as your question stands now, its gonna get locked.
I dont yet have this phone, but I love Sense. Sense, sense, sense roms all the way
Especially Sense 4.0+. Beautiful.
MIUI seems kinda bland to me, but AOSP is simple and sweet
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it sounds like most people like either CM10 or AOSP. any techies out there able to explain what one has that the other does not? I have used CM for years, but unfamiliar with AOSP. The other thing i liked having for the Epic, was I was able to switch back and forth between the stock rom and CM9 for Sprint updates. Can i still do that with the GS3? I was looking for the Stock Rom to have as a zip but did not find it on the forum. Helps with Sprint updates
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it sounds like most people like either CM10 or AOSP. any techies out there able to explain what one has that the other does not? I have used CM for years, but unfamiliar with AOSP. The other thing i liked having for the Epic, was I was able to switch back and forth between the stock rom and CM9 for Sprint updates. Can i still do that with the GS3? I was looking for the Stock Rom to have as a zip but did not find it on the forum. Helps with Sprint updates
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CM is an AOSP style rom.
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what does CM10 offer that the stock rom does not?
Fo sho its the Rom to have and use is the Chemistry Rom because I have a GS3 fleshed to boost and all my main functions I need all work with this ROM. My mms and my voice mail. And with Ktweaks kernel I am getting some serious battery time on this ROM so its over all the perfect ROM right now to have. And my man Sac is there every step of the way to give support and help with any issues
If you use cm10 or any aosp or aokp rom you lose all the goodies in touchwiz like motion effects.
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Personally I like MOAR ROM, great list of features and you can theme it however you want during install
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what does CM10 offer that the stock rom does not?
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It gives you a clean, stock android look, theme able, no bloatware, uses less ram. I have heard better battery life but I don't know. It has CM10 tweaks. If you can wait till cm10.1 is stable, it should be pretty awesome.
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does anyone know if there is a zip file of the stock 4.1.1. rom out there so that if I do download cm10 rom, i could switch back and forth between CM10.1 and stock rom
Make a backup in recovery. Thats what its there for
I like to break stuff!
Agreed. Backups are good
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mookiemoo said:
I used the CM9 Rom on my Epic and generally enjoyed it. With the SG3, what seems to be the Rom of choice for most to offer and stability?
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Most of the roms in the Dev section are rock solid (minus a few bugs which are normal in almost everything) the only way to figure out which you are going to like is to read the OP of a few that sound interesting, flash and take it for a drive (give a day or two typically) unless you can't stand it. MOAR, TPR, and FAT ASS (Cartman Edition of TPR) are all great TW based roms, offer all the fun of normal TW.. Incredible themeing options via Morphology.
Free GS3 is another great rom (from what i hear) as well. I haven't personally ran this one either, but does work with Morphology for themeing options.
Just scan the dev section. You'll find a good fit.
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. MOAR, and FAT ASS (Cartman Edition of TPR) are all great TW based roms,.
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Is it just me, I don't recall ever seeing those in the dev section. Unless those are just nicknames
saeroner said:
Is it just me, I don't recall ever seeing those in the dev section. Unless those are just nicknames
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The Peoples Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013463&highlight=fat+ass
Mother of All Roms (MOAR) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116531&highlight=fat+ass
Fat Ass (TPR KANG) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086302&highlight=fat+ass
Just nicks for the roms, minus the last one.. here's the direct links.
TN's rom is the best thing around right now in my opinion. Its got all the latest and greatest mods (multi, ink, 8 lock-screens, skip tracks) while keeping the stability of TW.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2063895
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I used the CM9 Rom on my Epic and generally enjoyed it. With the SG3, what seems to be the Rom of choice for most to offer and stability?
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Well buddy that's a matter of personal preference. Find out what you like your phone to do and find a rom that suit your needs. Unfortunately you won't get a definitive answer on this subject. Trial and error until you find what you like.
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Thread title.
I was just wondering because TW roms are based on the current released version for the phone whereas AOSP roms are the latest android version ported over to the phone, is this correct?
My experience is yes, tw is more stable. Although aosp roms are for versions unreleased to our phone, such as 4.2.2. They are usually pretty stable and get better with time. It just takes time for developers to fix things. But you miss out on things such as being able to update prl or profile in the Aosp ROMs. AOSP ROMs aren't necessarily ported though, a lot are built from source, but I get what you are saying.
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GiantJay said:
My experience is yes, tw is more stable. Although aosp roms are for versions unreleased to our phone, such as 4.2.2. They are usually pretty stable and get better with time. It just takes time for developers to fix things. But you miss out on things such as being able to update prl or profile in the Aosp ROMs. AOSP ROMs aren't necessarily ported though, a lot are built from source, but I get what you are saying.
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Thanks, for the longest time (up until today) I never saw the point in TW roms.
I was pretty naive and thought they were inferior in every way but the more I look into it I see there are lots of pros and cons to both
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Thread title.
I was just wondering because TW roms are based on the current released version for the phone whereas AOSP roms are the latest android version ported over to the phone, is this correct?
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It depends. There are some unstable tw roms out there.
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sevenpioverthree said:
Thread title.
I was just wondering because TW roms are based on the current released version for the phone whereas AOSP roms are the latest android version ported over to the phone, is this correct?
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It really depends on who is building the Rom... right now, with them working out the bugs with the new 3.4 kernel must aosp roms are going to have some bugs.... tw is great though, more goodies in them and I generally get better performance and battery with tw roms... once the 3.4 kernel gets ironed out things should be pretty on par with tw on aosp though... I know of an almost completely stable 3.4 kernel, but it can't be mentioned here..
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Greetings fellow S2 users. I hope I'm not too late to the party and that this phone still receives much love. I come from the OG Evo 4g side of the forums and after 2 years on sprint, I decided to high tail it to something moderately priced, more current hardware wise, and a plan that is more affordable.
And now with the release of the new OFFICIAL JB update from good 'ol Samsung, will there be any TW kernels or only AOSP? On the Evo, Sense was terrible and slow as all hell, but after playing with TW for a while I've actually become quite fond of the layout compared to AOSP. I will eventually make the switch to AOSP, but for now am LOVING the features of TW. The Music Square is nice for mood based music, I like that the video player plays pirated movies without the need for codecs/apps, WIFI calling is great and works flawlessly, and free visual voicemail without the need for Google Voice. And lets not forget free Hotspots.
Sad to see that Facial unlocking is now gone with the new JB update, and there are no music controls on lockscreen for default music app, but those are minor flaws. Would like to see S-Voice but IDK if it's a GSIII thing or not so not too bent out of shape.
So without much further ado, I am here to ask did I make a mistake picking the SGSII, and what I should know about ROM and Kernel wise compared to the OG Evo 4G. In other words, I assume that instead of Sense, it's now boiled down to TW (touchwiz) and AOSP based roms? Furthermore, is SBC still a thing; As in trickle charging? And are there any other news/tricks I should know about?
I would try out the PAC man ROM to be honest a lil bit of everything besides touchwiz i was a flashaholic but as soon as i started using PAC man ROM i havnt been able to find another ROM that suits me i love it and all the customizing options
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In order of rom purity:
1. Try touchwiz either stock or ptmr3's new builds.
2. Cm10.1 official by team chopsticks
3. Aokp official by whitehawkx
4. Pac
5. Else
PTMR3 is currently working on a custom 4.1.2 tw kernel from source. so in a day or 3 we will have a jb tw kernel:good:
and if you want to try a great aosp rom jelly bam is where its at but you wont find it on xda its on goo.im under devs - jelly bam - tmobile galaxy s2. i recommend it with cerux kernel. also you can use roms from the skyrocket also so check out that thread too.
Its a great phone with a lot of development.
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custom tw 4.1.2 kernel up in dev thread :highfive:
This is a great phone. I keep going back to Pacman Rom by Jaydubb in development or in general which is up to date by gs2usr. And a custom kernel btpy Emerson called cerux. Great combo
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suaverc118 said:
This is a great phone. I keep going back to Pacman Rom by Jaydubb in development or in general which is up to date by gs2usr. And a custom kernel btpy Emerson called cerux. Great combo
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I played with it for a small time, but was saddened by the fact I couldn't get WIFI calling on anything but TWIZ.It's the main reason I went to TMO because I get poor reception in my house. Although while on the rom, I noticed I had more bars than I did on default JB Twiz rom.
Back when I had my EVO I remember people saying AOSP uses different parameters to measure signals compared to stock roms, is this still true?
This phone is one of the best I've ever had, loving every feature of it, currently running Embryo rom 6.11 with cymbaline 3.0.74 kernal, amazing speeds benching in high 11's, its twiz based since I personally hate asop lol, all around beast of a phone, you did good...
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Which do you prefer?
Both. Hybrid that is.
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For whatever reason, I get significantly better battery life using tw roms vs aosp. I prefer the look of aosp though. Battery life is winning the battle right now and I'm on TW
I have always preferred an aosp rom but they do not always offer all the goodies.. like mhl, or t-mobile wifi calling for example.. definitely always had better battery life for me, more free ram etc..
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I dunno. That's a tough one. They both have their pros and cons. I can't honestly say that I think one is better than the other. If I had a low end device that might be a different story. I've been sticking with TW lately.
Ever since the s3 I've been sticking to tw since they offer some goodies that i find convenient.. And also the battery life has been way better for me
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TouchWiz + rovo89s Xposed framework + one of the many tweaked kernels = better than any AOSP rom I've used. Just my own preference though ^_^
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After trying pretty much every ROM compatible with my TMO S4, I keep coming back to the TMO TW ROMs. Most importantly, you can't get wi-fi calling any other way. But, as Slim TW ROMs have become more common and my comfort level with making changes has risen, I have given up the idea of dual booting with an ASOP/GE/MIUI/etc. ROM as my daily driver & TW for wi-fi calling, and am now back to focusing on getting as stripped-down a TW as possible. I care nothing for eye candy and just want the quickest & most stable setup, and TW has fit the bill best for me.
TW (by a slight margin)
I prefer TW because of the camera
AOSP is still very snappy but TW is catching up to that standard (for me)
I use stock TW unrooted 4.3 btw
For me it depends on what is available at the time. Right now I've got the latest 4.3.1 cyanogenmod nightly:
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AOSP all the way, I hate touchwiz it's so ugly.
TouchWiz seems to have much better battery life. I do prefer stock because I hate a lot of extra cruft but if that can be removed, it's not so bad.
Plus Wi-Fi calling is awesome for battery life.
I know a certain someone has gotten wifi calling to work on aosp.. Still waiting to get a hold of our myself tho..
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WFG said:
I know a certain someone has gotten wifi calling to work on aosp.. Still waiting to get a hold of our myself tho..
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On the S4 AOSP?
I know it works on AOSP for the HTC One, but if you know someone who has it working on the S4 AOSP roms, you should advise that person that there is a considerable bounty built up of people willing to click the donate button a few times for a working installable Wifi Calling APK.
interesting to read the comments. I've been going back and forth between TW and AOSP ROMS. Is having the newest Android release the only major advantage of AOSP over TW? I don't think the look of AOSP is a valid reason since you can install launchers (i.e. Nova Launcher) to get the AOSP look on a TW ROM.
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interesting to read the comments. I've been going back and forth between TW and AOSP ROMS. Is having the newest Android release the only major advantage of AOSP over TW? I don't think the look of AOSP is a valid reason since you can install launchers (i.e. Nova Launcher) to get the AOSP look on a TW ROM.
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exactly.. I love aosp but im using tw with nova. I gotta have battery life
what changes does samsung make kernel side? Are the improvements made to the asop kernel? It does seem like TW has better battery life...
also if someone has wifi calling ported... why is this staying in the shadows??
I like cm 10.2 stable, my daily driver, but when wicked v9 comes out, I'm going to be jumping on that real quick.
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S4 - Google Play Edition, 4.4 with ______'s TMO WiFi calling patch & Kernel
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S4 - Google Play Edition, 4.4 with ______'s TMO WiFi calling patch & Kernel
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Am I reading this correctly? A 4.4 GE with wifi calling exists?
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