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I have the S3, and S4's 441 ppi Screen is tempting me, but won't our GS3, have those features through a ROM? So should I upgrade or not?
Probably not. Unless you want Touchwiz running on the latest and greatest android build the GS4 is probably not the best way to go if you already have a GS3. Not to mention all those new features will be gone the minute you flash an aosp ROM. So YES if you want Toichwiz on the latest android version (4.2.2) but NO if you're an aosp guy or if you can handle waiting for the new features to be released on the GS3.
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Probably not. Unless you want Touchwiz running on the latest and greatest android build the GS4 is probably not the best way to go if you already have a GS3. Not to mention all those new features will be gone the minute you flash an aosp ROM. So YES if you want Toichwiz on the latest android version (4.2.2) but NO if you're an aosp guy or if you can handle waiting for the new features to be released on the GS3.
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I'll wait. :highfive:
Up to you? useless thread, the info and specs for the s4 are there for everyone to see. You will ultimately decide what you want
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Yes upgrade new year new technology new galaxy and you got the money so yes o.o
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If in fact our tmobile s3 do not have an LTE radio then I myself might switch. I currently have the note 2 as well and I'm not 100% happy with either phones.
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hmm feel like not worth to upgrade it
too few improvement
S4 is too much like the note 2.
Only plus for me is the quad core.
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I'll be upgrading to an S4, without replacing my existing S3 phone.
Outside the 1080P display, the TV remote and some biometric sensors, I'll have the same phone!
Samsung has already been quoted as releasing the software apps that do not require specific S4 hardware for the S3 and Note II. Look for it later this year.
Well if you're getting it for development don't count on many also Roms as cm team have already mentioned that they are not supporting the gs4. :/
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No!!!!! Say it ain't so! I love CyanogenMod so much this might actually stop me from buying the single most awesome device I have ever waited for. I guess that says a lot about the CyanogenMod Team.
http://www.cultofandroid.com/24475/samsung-galaxy-s4-wont-be-supported-by-cynogenmod/
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That's Sucks.
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Doesn't mean jack. Someone will end up doing a port of CyanogenMod to the S4, whether or not the CM team gives its "blessing." At this point, there's nothing they can do to stop it.
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The question is whether it will be a functional stable port but I am staying optimistic.
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True, but I've learned to never underestimate the ingenuity of the Android development community.
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They already stated that this post doesnt speak for the whole CM team. Just some of the Samsung maintainers.
We should have all seen this coming with the lack of developer support Samsung has been doing as of late.
Will someone make a port? Most likely. will it be as stable as a CM version? Most likely not. To be honest. The S4 is nothing big compared to the S3. Yes it has a few cool features but those features will be lost on AOSP. Mainly as Samsung will not release the code for it so you will only see those features on a TW rom.
Isn't it a bit early to for a definitive "no" about a CyanogenMod?
Like the phone I read isn't being released 'till the end of April as the earliest estimate.
I am not really hugely disappointed to be honest. I have to say the stock rom on this phone is one of the better ones and I do use it quite often. If any phone can stand alone on stock it is this one in my opinion.
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If you want all the stuff to really work you already need a TW based ROM anyways. I don't see Sammy opening up more with sharing code, smells like they are going the other way.
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If you already have an s3, why even buy an s4? Huge waste of money for such a minor upgrade. Besides, any feature that is not hardware dependant will be made available on the s3 anyways. And if you want Aosp, those features will most likely not even be available anyways so what's the point?
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If you already have an s3, why even buy an s4? Huge waste of money for such a minor upgrade. Besides, any feature that is not hardware dependant will be made available on the s3 anyways. And if you want Aosp, those features will most likely not even be available anyways so what's the point?
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AGREE.....s3 will be getting full OS support for 2 year that is 5.0 is guaranteed.....why not wait for galaxy s next series hoping at least the design changes and not look like GALAXY GRAND Samsung sucks in Design innovation for its devices xD :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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Shahan_mik3 said:
AGREE.....s3 will be getting full OS support for 2 year that is 5.0 is guaranteed.....why not wait for galaxy s next series hoping at least the design changes and not look like GALAXY GRAND Samsung sucks in Design innovation for its devices xD :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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I liked the Captivate's design, one of the best IMO.
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There will probably be lesser CM support for the international S4 model due to developers frustration with Exynos chips. Us version, however, will be shipped with good fully supported Qualcomm Snapdragon processor and should be fine receiving developers love.
Edit: to sum it up, here is an official CyanogenMod stance on topic from their Google + page. Well put!
CyanogenMod10:59 AM - Public
Setting Device Expectations
Let’s start with the simplest form of this: CyanogenMod does not pre-announce support or lack of support for devices. Ever. Even for the Nexus 4, we did not announce support until a nightly build was available. Further, any announcement regarding the ‘dropping’ of device support will be communicated via this Google+ page, Twitter, Facebook, our blog, or a combination of those; it will not be something buried in a forum post.
This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be as an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that his comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an organization.
As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and most definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail.
-The CyanogenMod Team
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I was about to post a ss of that very post. Oh, here it is anyway. For the unbelievers.
If I wanted a buggy build of Android that delivers less battery life, less stability, and less features than TouchWiz, just so I could say that I'm running stock Android, I'd go with CM. Therefore at the present, this development is of no concern to me. I have ran CM on all of my previous devices including the Evo and Galaxy S2. Worked decently well on the Evo (better than Sense), but lots of issues with the S2. With my S3, absolutely no reason to get away from TouchWiz.
sputnik767 said:
If I wanted a buggy build of Android that delivers less battery life, less stability, and less features than TouchWiz, just so I could say that I'm running stock Android, I'd go with CM. Therefore at the present, this development is of no concern to me. I have ran CM on all of my previous devices including the Evo and Galaxy S2. Worked decently well on the Evo (better than Sense), but lots of issues with the S2. With my S3, absolutely no reason to get away from TouchWiz.
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Im split on this really. I like the new features of 4.2..and it irks me that id be on 4.1.2 if i went Sammy, but I do miss the 'everything works' feel of a Sammy rom.
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If I wanted a buggy build of Android that delivers less battery life, less stability, and less features than TouchWiz, just so I could say that I'm running stock Android, I'd go with CM. Therefore at the present, this development is of no concern to me. I have ran CM on all of my previous devices including the Evo and Galaxy S2. Worked decently well on the Evo (better than Sense), but lots of issues with the S2. With my S3, absolutely no reason to get away from TouchWiz.
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Loooooooool
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TouchWiz isn't all that bad, IMO.
But I far and away prefer to run AOSP.
Sucks to hear that some members of CyanogenMod aren't happy with the S4, or Samsung in general.
I upgrade phones every year. Why not. But I've learned my lesson. I won't upgrade again until CyanogenMod has matured for a few months for ROM's on any particular phone.
Flashing a new ROM every two-three days hoping to find something fixed, suxes. I'd rather have an awesome ROM than an awesome phone.
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Im split on this really. I like the new features of 4.2..and it irks me that id be on 4.1.2 if i went Sammy, but I do miss the 'everything works' feel of a Sammy rom.
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That's the thing, I don't have time to screw around with flashing nightlies hoping that whatever problem I have is fixed, and praying that no new problem is introduced. I dealt with this with every phone I've had in the past, and it's not fun. I agree that the new features of 4.2 are nice, but not nice enough to deal with the issues of AOSP. Besides, TouchWiz is fast, fluid, and gets excellent battery life, and has far more features than stock Android. To me, CM is a downgrade and a headache. A phone is a tool, not a project.
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If you already have an s3, why even buy an s4? Huge waste of money for such a minor upgrade. Besides, any feature that is not hardware dependant will be made available on the s3 anyways.
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That screen would be really nice though, and a good chunk bigger than the One.
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Is it me or has development for the galaxy s3 slowed down dramatically? Have most of the device switched to another device?
Some devs have moved onto the Note II, while others are still developing. I actually think development is still quite strong for our device. There's over 10 AOSP roms that's been updated since March 1st and there's probably over 10 TW roms updated since March. I helped a friend of mine mod his EVO LTE and I felt like his device was way more limited in ROM selection than ours was.
Not only that, the developers have pretty much everything running smoothly. What exactly needs to be updated? TW ROMs are updated, AOSP ROMs are pretty much all 4.2.2...
Once the S4 drops TW development will pick up, and when 5.0 gets released AOSP will pick up.
Right now, I'm running the latest version of Android with a slew of extra features and no bugs at all. Not much to develop.
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Not only that, the developers have pretty much everything running smoothly. What exactly needs to be updated? TW ROMs are updated, AOSP ROMs are pretty much all 4.2.2...
Once the S4 drops TW development will pick up, and when 5.0 gets released AOSP will pick up.
Right now, I'm running the latest version of Android with a slew of extra features and no bugs at all. Not much to develop.
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What ROM are you running?
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What ROM are you running?
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LiquidSmooth stable release.
Well I see no reason to continue development like the past if most ROMs are pretty stable already sure when a new update comes every devs will push out updates with whatever is new in stock but other than that ROMs are pretty stable and its best to be left like that. That's just my opinion though.
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Is it me or has development for the galaxy s3 slowed down dramatically? Have most of the device switched to another device?
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development is still running strong (Have you seen the changes constantly being made to The People's Rom and Mother of all roms for instance?) I run either of those, and they are always adding new features to please the people who run them. So i don't see development slowed at all. As more things trickle down the pipeline via release or port, from another device, they will get added. Development is strong with this one. :silly:
It not really about quantity but quality. We have both. In feel we and our devices are very fortunate for the people who develop for our phones. There are some amazing ROMs to choose from, and even better developers and their teams doing it. Just to name my favorites depending if you like TW or AOSP
TW ROMs
M.O.A.R.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37149249
TPR http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34624618
Galaxy S fre3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28157789
AOSP
Liquidsmooth http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38683925
CyanogenMod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35045520
And the list goes on and on.
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GiantJay said:
It not really about quantity but quality. We have both. In feel we and our devices are very fortunate for the people who develop for our phones. There are some amazing ROMs to choose from, and even better developers and their teams doing it. Just to name my favorites depending if you like TW or AOSP
TW ROMs
M.O.A.R.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37149249
TPR http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34624618
Galaxy S fre3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28157789
AOSP
Liquidsmooth http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38683925
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I completely agree, If it's working perfectly, not much really to update.. Little things here and there that folks want added... but overall.. not much you can change really.
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I completely agree, If it's working pctly, not much really to update.. Little things here and there that folks want added... but overall.. not much you can change really.
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I'm a dev who just got here.. I know Im late for the party, but I'm developing my own tw ROM for the s3 at the moment and I've noticed that there are stilla few MODS that haven't been updated to the latest MB1. I'm needing some testers too for some MODS and my ROM when it's finished. Any one interested? Also check out my latest thread on development
HERE
Oh and what's up overstew! I haven't seen you since the E4gt.. How you been?
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Is it me or has development for the galaxy s3 slowed down dramatically? Have most of the device switched to another device?
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Most roms are stable now. Most devs are waiting for the official 4.2 as well. Plus some have moved to the Note2 or getting there hands on the S4.
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Hey everyone. I am just getting into development and am looking for some experience in the field. I know it is not easy, but, if someone is not already working on this, would anyone like to join me in an attempt to port a touchwiz android 4.2.1 ROM from the international GS3 to all carrier variant GS3s? If so, respond here, or PM me. I am really interested in getting the ball rolling on this as the new touchwiz features intrigue me, but as a high school student I have no money for a galaxy s4.
Thanks for your interest.
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I don't even think its possible to port from international..
I mean in general is it, but its completely rewriting everything from scratch since US and International is completely different hardware... That's why no one has done it.
Anyone feel free to correct me but OP, if you want to really accomplish this, you have a LONG way to work. Its easier to cook your own TW ROM
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I was just wondering, because it has all of the new touchwiz functionality from the galaxy s4 (minus some of the hardware dependent stuff) so it just seemed like a cool idea. Maybe I can just get the cam, gallery, and some other stuff to work with our current touchwiz/android version.
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TekGadgt said:
I was just wondering, because it has all of the new touchwiz functionality from the galaxy s4 (minus some of the hardware dependent stuff) so it just seemed like a cool idea. Maybe I can just get the cam, gallery, and some other stuff to work with our current touchwiz/android version.
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That's if they even release TW source code... Which they probably wont since its closed sourse... The only hope is waiting for the US variant, but even with the US variant, its still closed. This is something extreme lol most elite devs won't even mess with TW since no code makes it extremely difficult... But we'll have to wait and see.
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That's if they even release TW source code... Which they probably wont since its closed sourse... The only hope is waiting for the US variant, but even with the US variant, its still closed. This is something extreme lol most elite devs won't even mess with TW since no code makes it extremely difficult... But we'll have to wait and see.
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Yeah, It is rather annoying. But is TW being closed source a new thing? Because if I remember correctly, some, if not all, of the Galaxy S3 TW versions were available open source.
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Yeah, It is rather annoying. But is TW being closed source a new thing? Because if I remember correctly, some, if not all, of the Galaxy S3 TW versions were available open source.
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The only source Samsung releases consist of kernel source code and various stock stuff. None of the stuff they release is for TW...
Touchwiz is and always has been closed source. If code was released for TW those featured would of already been implemented to AOSP based roms.
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For the Note 2, there is this kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239453
It allows you to dual-boot a Samsung and AOSP-based ROM. How cool is that?
For the locked AT&T Note 3, there is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572978
It allows you to keep the locked factory ROM in place, while creating additional ROM "slots" to boot into an alternate ROM.
I, for one, would love the abilty to run a stock Samsung ROM and be able to dual-boot an AOSP based ROM on my Note 3.
Based on the above, it seems to be possible. I am no dev, but I am hoping to entice someone to take this on to make it a reality.
Perhaps a dev fund of some sort? I'll toss in $20. Anyone else interested in this feature?
Happy New Year, BTW...
Ah the infamous devil kernel, yea that's a dope feature and I'm sure in due time devs will cook up a kernel that allows this. CM for our devices is a newborn at this point and needs plenty of nightlies to iron out all the bugs before this can happen.
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Yes also for the galaxy s4 there was 2 multiboot situations hopefully one can get ported
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We are just getting alphas of aosp . Its way too early to ask this question. but I understand why you ask.
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