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i bought that Motorola Rapid Car charger recent and have been using it about a week now. i've noticed that it doesn't seem to charge my Thunderbolt any faster then it did when i was using the Thunderbolt's USB cable with this USB car charger adapter.
so, my question is, why is it called "rapid" if it doesn't charge any faster?
and i suppose secondly, is there an actual microUSB charger that will charge the Thunderbolt faster?
they make one for the iphone that will fully charge it in 30 minutes so i know they are out there.
voxigenboy said:
i bought that Motorola Rapid Car charger recent and have been using it about a week now. i've noticed that it doesn't seem to charge my Thunderbolt any faster then it did when i was using the Thunderbolt's USB cable with this USB car charger adapter.
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Maybe you should try this one.
Install the battery monitor widget. Monitor the battery for about 20 minutes while charging. Tell us what the charge current is.
Does the Motorola charger include a cable? If not, you may just have a weak cable. I have seen cheap cables with wire so thin that the charging current is no better then charging off a weak USB port.
My experience has been that the phone typically recognizes car charges as USB charging and uses a different charging profile. My solution to that is use a wall charger through an inverter or a kernel that doesn't use radically different charging profiles for A/C and USB.
loonatik78 said:
My experience has been that the phone typically recognizes car charges as USB charging and uses a different charging profile. My solution to that is use a wall charger through an inverter or a kernel that doesn't use radically different charging profiles for A/C and USB.
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No need for that.
Cut a small piece of aluminum foil. Carefully place it where it shorts the two center conductors in the charger. Plug the USB cable into the charger. Make sure the foil stays in place over the two center conductors.
It is now a high rate charger. (assuming it can put out 1 amp.)
The limiting factor is typically the usb cable itself. Most usb cables can't support the 1amp that is provided to it. Since you used the original usb cable that came with the thunderbolt (that's been "shorted" as mentioned above" ) it will be just as fast as the moto car charger. the 1amp charging rate that the moto charger charges at (i have one) and that the original one charges at are already "rapid". if you plugged a normal usb cable from somewhere else into the other usb car charger, it'd be much much slower
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The limiting factor is typically the usb cable itself. Most usb cables can't support the 1amp that is provided to it. Since you used the original usb cable that came with the thunderbolt (that's been "shorted" as mentioned above" ) it will be just as fast as the moto car charger. the 1amp charging rate that the moto charger charges at (i have one) and that the original one charges at are already "rapid". if you plugged a normal usb cable from somewhere else into the other usb car charger, it'd be much much slower
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The stock charger is what shorts the connections. The cable is NOT shorted on the two inner pins because they are the data connections used for connecting your phone to a computer.
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The stock charger is what shorts the connections. The cable is NOT shorted on the two inner pins because they are the data connections used for connecting your phone to a computer.
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To meet the USB charging spec (which the TB uses), the two inner (data) contacts should be shorted with no more that 200 ohms.
But, the cable can also be an issue for rapid charging. The voltage drop for a 1A/5V source, across only .5 M of 28 gauge copper is ~220 mV. If you use a longer cable, there's more voltage drop. The TB likely current limits itself when the voltage drops below a certain threshold. Best to buy 24 gauge USB cables, if you can, especially if getting longer ones (monoprice has them).
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i bought that Motorola Rapid Car charger recent and have been using it about a week now. i've noticed that it doesn't seem to charge my Thunderbolt any faster then it did when i was using the Thunderbolt's USB cable with this USB car charger adapter.
so, my question is, why is it called "rapid" if it doesn't charge any faster?
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I think its a matter of rated output current. BUT on the other side, the phone must be capable of drawing/using that much current. If the adapter is rated for more current than the phone can charge, the "extra" current wont be supplied.
Initially, Moto's standard car chargers output 5V and up to 550ma max (just like a standard PC USB port) so they didn't charge phones all that fast. Moto then came out with chargers that had higher current output, so they were capable of charging the phones "faster" than the original car chargers (but on par with the home/travel/AC chargers) and called them "rapid car chargers"..
Today, the current output on the Moto SPN5400A car charger is 0-950mA, and I've seen it sometimes referred to as "Rapid Car charger."
But as far as I know, Moto no longer makes/sells the lower current car chargers, and their web site only shows one MicroUSB and one MiniUSB car charger for sale, both of which appear to be of the 0-950mA output variety.
voxigenboy said:
and i suppose secondly, is there an actual microUSB charger that will charge the Thunderbolt faster?
they make one for the iphone that will fully charge it in 30 minutes so i know they are out there.
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Just because someone makes such a charger for the iPhone, doesn't mean one must exist for the TB, or other phones, does it? I know the iPad uses a 2A charger. What happens if you connect an iPhone to that? will it charge faster? I guess that depends on if the iPhone is capable of drawing more than 1A to charge it.
I've not seen a "home" or AC charger that can charge the TB any faster than the Stock 1A charger. Does such a thing exist?
A proper car charger with 950mA to 1A output should charge the TB at almost exactly the same rate as the stock 1A wall/AC charger.
And btw, the Moto SPN5400A car charger DOES charge my TB in about the same amount of time that it takes me to charge my TB at home with the stock HTC charger. So while its not "rapid" compared to the stock home/travel/AC charger, its "rapid" compared to PC USB Port charging, or a plain lower current car charger.
KidJoe said:
I've not seen a "home" or AC charger that can charge the TB any faster than the Stock 1A charger. Does such a thing exist?
A proper car charger with 950mA to 1A output should charge the TB at almost exactly the same rate as the stock 1A wall/AC charger.
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I made a charger for my motorcycle. I use it as a GPS, screen on MAX, phone active with marginal signal. And I wanted to actually charge the battery at the same time. I did a lot of experimenting with the Thunderbolt. It would not exceed a pull of about 850ma from the supply, even at 5.5 volts. IMHO, you are wasting time looking for any charger over 1 amp.
Also, even with about 850ma in, not much over 500ma is getting to the battery. So a totally dead battery is still going to take between 2 and 3 hours to charge, no matter what charger you have. And twice that long if the charger looks like a PC USB port.
worwig said:
I made a charger for my motorcycle. I use it as a GPS, screen on MAX, phone active with marginal signal. And I wanted to actually charge the battery at the same time. I did a lot of experimenting with the Thunderbolt. It would not exceed a pull of about 850ma from the supply, even at 5.5 volts. IMHO, you are wasting time looking for any charger over 1 amp.
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I was asking because of the OP's statement about knowing "they must exist" because they are out there for the iPhone.
I'm perfectly happy with my Moto car charger, and how fast it charges my phones.
I see that the wall charger for the Galaxy Nexus outputs 5V and 1A. Unfortunately, none of the extra chargers I'd like to use as additional chargers have this output. Some of them are 5.1V, and some of them all put out under 1A.
From what I understand, using a charger w/ a higher voltage could potentially damage the phone. I know that this unlikely considering it's only an extra .1V in my case, but I don't want to risk it.
As for the amps, I believe that using lower amps isn't dangerous, but may result in charging taking longer than normal.
Are these two assumptions correct? Also, does anyone know of any cheap chargers that put out 5V/1A? If you put in "phone charger" in Amazon, the second hit is a Samsung OEM charger that puts out 5V/0.7A, but I'd rather get one that is going to be an exact match.
700-800mah are fine and acceptable for charging. But if wanting to play games on a charger and still get some kind of charge, go with a 1000 mah charger. 1000 mah charger is also best to use while using mhl so you can hopefully not lose battery charge while streaming video over hdmi.
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Speaking of the charger... anyone found a cheap charger adapter for the Nexus? I don't like the massive brick of a "international adapter" Handtec packaged with the phone >.>
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Speaking of the charger... anyone found a cheap charger adapter for the Nexus? I don't like the massive brick of a "international adapter" Handtec packaged with the phone >.>
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Micro-Travel-Charger-M540/dp/B002HJBM04
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Travel-Charger-Adapter-MicroUSB/dp/B0049IE70I
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Speaking of the charger... anyone found a cheap charger adapter for the Nexus? I don't like the massive brick of a "international adapter" Handtec packaged with the phone >.>
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I'm using a Griffin charger for the iPhone (1 amp)... it's very small and the plug blades fold up, making it very pocketable. Give the included iPhone cable to a friend.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-NA231...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322795627&sr=1-33
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I'm using a Griffin charger for the iPhone (1 amp)... it's very small and the plug blades fold up, making it very pocketable. Give the included iPhone cable to a friend.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-NA231...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322795627&sr=1-33
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it's.. 24 bucks ... for a charger..
lol fml
Dmw017 said:
it's.. 24 bucks ... for a charger..
lol fml
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Haha, it's a nice charger.
If you don't get that one, do get a charger that does at least 700mA... or ideally 1A. Some of the cheaper chargers don't put out a lot of power and it will take a long time to charge your phone.
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Haha, it's a nice charger.
If you don't get that one, do get a charger that does at least 700mA... or ideally 1A. Some of the cheaper chargers don't put out a lot of power and it will take a long time to charge your phone.
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...you say it folds too huh :/ ....
but for that price, i wonder if there are any samsung chargers that are just as good if not better..
that is Apple, after all
hey isnt http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...al-USB-Charging/dp/B004EYH5WY/ref=pd_sim_e_10 the same product , it says it does 5 volts at 5 watts ... thats the same right?
edit: some people are reporting that the charger only charges at 0.5A instead of the full 1A on [some] android devices. if you have the charger, can you confirm your nexus charges at the full 1A watts
I've been doing fine with just plugging it into my computer like I always do with every other phone.
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hey isnt http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...al-USB-Charging/dp/B004EYH5WY/ref=pd_sim_e_10 the same product , it says it does 5 volts at 5 watts ... thats the same right?
edit: some people are reporting that the charger only charges at 0.5A instead of the full 1A on [some] android devices. if you have the charger, can you confirm your nexus charges at the full 1A watts
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Same one.
Good question on whether it's putting out a full 1A. I guess what I do is check the charge times tomorrow with a few different 1A chargers to see if it measures up.
I use this for home:
http://www.amazon.com/Cellet-Charger-Retractable-Cable-myTouch/dp/B004XVM1T0
And this for the car:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Powerjolt-Dual-Universal-Micro/dp/B0042B9U8Q
Both are dual-USB and put out 1amp. Charges my GNEX and iPhone 4 (work) at the same time without issues.
Just feel like to chime in here for another question.
I know typical USB port from a PC outputs 0.5A while the wall charger outputs 1A, so besides charging time, is there any particular advantages to use wall charger over USB from PC?
I've read somewhere else states that despite the longer charging time using a USB port from a PC, it provides more thorough charges hence is better for the battery than using a wall charger, is this true?
Thanks!
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Just feel like to chime in here for another question.
I know typical USB port from a PC outputs 0.5A while the wall charger outputs 1A, so besides charging time, is there any particular advantages to use wall charger over USB from PC?
I've read somewhere else states that despite the longer charging time using a USB port from a PC, it provides more thorough charges hence is better for the battery than using a wall charger, is this true?
Thanks!
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I've read that the wall charger drops the battery down to 90ish % after it hits 100% and just goes between the two levels until you unplug your charger
While a USB charge is slower and charges your device up to a "fuller" charge
...I may be unfathomably wrong though
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man that little Apple charger is so damn cute ... lol , ill probably end up buying it once the 1A volt charge is confirmed
edit: just bought it lol, oh well.. it will probably maybe more or less somewhat possibly work like it should at 1A :}
assisterah said:
Just feel like to chime in here for another question.
I know typical USB port from a PC outputs 0.5A while the wall charger outputs 1A, so besides charging time, is there any particular advantages to use wall charger over USB from PC?
I've read somewhere else states that despite the longer charging time using a USB port from a PC, it provides more thorough charges hence is better for the battery than using a wall charger, is this true?
Thanks!
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I'm not an expert on the subject but I was under the impression that cycles (charge + discharge) were a bigger factor on battery life than something like this. The longer a current is running through the battery (charge or discharge) is detrimental to it's life span.
Leaving a laptop plugged in all the time ruins its battery is my source on this one. I would say it's because it has a constant charge running through the battery.
qreffie said:
I've been doing fine with just plugging it into my computer like I always do with every other phone.
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That takes a lot longer vs plugging it into the wall
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That takes a lot longer vs plugging it into the wall
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True dat. Unless it has changed , USB only outputs 500mA.
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True dat. Unless it has changed , USB only outputs 500mA.
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500mA is the max before the PC will disable the port. So your actually get less current.
There are some ports, depending on the motherboard that have a option of outputting more power for charging devices, and also have the port powered when the computer is off. But a normal usb 2.0 port is limited to 500mA max per spec... so a normal usb 2.0 port charging a phone is drawing less then 500mA, or it would get and over current condition and disable the port.
I design electronics and work with USB and batteries often, so let me clear some stuff up in no particular order:
- PC ports are limited to 500mA so will only ever output a max of 500mA
- You can use a wall charger that outputs 1000mA but on most devices the data pins on the micro USB need to be shorted to tell the phone it can try to draw more than 500mA. This is true for HTC devices for example. That means if you get a cheap charger that doesn't short the data pins, when you plug your standard micro-usb cable into it, it will still only charge your phone at 500mA.
- The charging controller is actually in the phone. It decides based on temperature (there's a sensor in the battery), current, voltage across the battery (current charge) and characteristics of the type of battery to figure out how much current to allow into the battery. Although its true that a 500mA charger may have different affects than 1000mA chargers, there usually is very little perceivable difference. Which is (slightly) better really depends on the charging controller and how it decides when to stop charging.
- When the battery is full, the phone continues to 'trickle charge' for a period of time. This isn't a bad thing. Overcharging a Lithium battery can be extremely dangerous, so normal charging occurs at a high speed and then slows down at a safe limit below the 'true' 100%. After that the phone continues to trickle charge to top up the battery. This is the reason you read in phone manuals you should charge the phone for 8 hours or overnight for its first charge.
- When charging at 500mA, the battery does not get as hot. This usually means you get closer to the true 100% before 'trickle charging' starts. With a 1000mA charge the battery heats up a lot more so charging may switch to trickle much sooner. Here's an example with made up figures.
Lets say you charge your battery with a 500mA charger, and it takes 2 hours. When the phone shows 100% it may actually be at 99%, and trickle charging. Leaving it for another 30 mins may take it to its full capacity.
Now, lets say you charge your battery with a 1000mA charger, and it takes 1 hour. When the phone shows 100% it may actually be at 98%, and trickle charging - It stopped sooner because the battery was hotter. Leaving it for another 30 mins may take it to full capacity.
Conclusion.. the 500mA charger took 2.5 hours, while the 1000mA charger took 1.5 hours. However if you unplugged both when the phone showed 100%, the 500mA charged battery may last longer, and so you think the 500mA somehow resulted in a more thorough charge!
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter which you use. the absolute charge cycles is what counts. Charge to 100%, then dont charge till its 0 for best battery care. Constantly plugging into a charger or dock all day on and off is bad. But having said that, your phone is there to be used, so a sensible balance of the two is the best bet.
Thank you so much for the detailed response, kam187. Would you recommend avoiding using a 5.1V charger, considering the phone came with a 5V charger?
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I wouldn't use it. The 0.1v probably won't make any difference, but it may not be regulated. Chargers with these odd values sometimes don't have any regulator inside them. That could damage your phone as the voltage could shoot up and down as the current draw changes.
Just search amazon/ebay for any MicroUSB charger, and pick one from a reputable manufacturer like Motorola, HTC, Samsung etc. Since all phones now use MicroUSB, there's loads of these chargers around from previous phone models etc.
Here's just one I saw on amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Trave...E70I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1322808220&sr=8-3
I know that this is a really lame question but I was wondering if one offers a "better" charge? USB charges very slowly compared to the wall charger so I dont want to use it unless I have to.
Also, why does the car charger have a USB hub for the charging cable that comes with the phone if it has a micro USB hub on the end of the cable that is connected to the charger anyways? That is just redundant, is it not?
The wall charger will charge faster... As for 'better'? A charged battery is a charged battery. If you charge it faster than the wall charger allows, there's a potential for overloading the battery (though there should be safeguards to prevent explosive results). But the wall charger is what I'd suggest.
As for the car charger, it's to allow multiple devices. Micro USB for your phone, and a USB port to plug in anything else that might need it (like an iPad or something). If you don't have 2 devices, ignore the USB port and just use the micro USB connection.
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The wall charger will charge faster... As for 'better'? A charged battery is a charged battery. If you charge it faster than the wall charger allows, there's a potential for overloading the battery (though there should be safeguards to prevent explosive results). But the wall charger is what I'd suggest.
As for the car charger, it's to allow multiple devices. Micro USB for your phone, and a USB port to plug in anything else that might need it (like an iPad or something). If you don't have 2 devices, ignore the USB port and just use the micro USB connection.
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Thank you.
Most USB-based charging only goes at 500mA, where as the OEM charger is about 1.5 amps (1500mA). You can find some 2.0A USB car chargers on eBay / Amazon for fairly cheap. They're worth it to get a full charge if you are in a hurry or have a short commute.
Here's one that's 2.1A for $9.99 on Amazon
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Most USB-based charging only goes at 500mA, where as the OEM charger is about 1.5 amps (1500mA).
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I've noticed that it chargers obscenely quickly with the little OEM charger. Any idea where to buy more of those (or more similarly powerful chargers?)
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I've noticed that it chargers obscenely quickly with the little OEM charger. Any idea where to buy more of those (or more similarly powerful chargers?)
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Amazon/eBay is your friend. You can find plenty of 2amp USB chargers for like $9 with free shipping.
Cheyse said:
Amazon/eBay is your friend. You can find plenty of 2amp USB chargers for like $9 with free shipping.
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Silly question, but as long as it's a 5 volt 2 amp MicroUSB charger, it'll work? I just don't want to fry my phone using some incompatible charger.
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Silly question, but as long as it's a 5 volt 2 amp MicroUSB charger, it'll work? I just don't want to fry my phone using some incompatible charger.
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yeah that should work. All Modern day phones have a voltage regulator to stop overcharging.
Warning: iPad Charger
I tried using the iPad charger yesterday and that didn't work out very well. My phone turned off and didn't charge. I couldn't turn it back on, had to do a battery pull to get it going again.
Not sure if this is an isolated incident or not, but I'm going to stick with my Nexus and/or USB charger.
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I tried using the iPad charger yesterday and that didn't work out very well. My phone turned off and didn't charge. I couldn't turn it back on, had to do a battery pull to get it going again.
Not sure if this is an isolated incident or not, but I'm going to stick with my Nexus and/or USB charger.
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I used an iPad charger a month ago and the phone only charged 40% over seven hours and when I picked it up it was scorching hot.
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I used an iPad charger a month ago and the phone only charged 40% over seven hours and when I picked it up it was scorching hot.
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It makes sense that your phone got hot. When using the stock charger (or any charger with a current rating of 1A or less), the charger is the one that is limiting the current to the battery, so the current-limiting circuit in the phone is not necessarily active and therefore not generating much heat. However, when using the iPad charger (which is rated around 2.5A, I think), the current-limiting circuit in the charger is not active because the 1A or so that the phone is drawing is well within the rating of the charger. Therefore in this case, the current-limiting circuit in the phone needs to actively limit the current and thereby generate a lot of heat.
I personally think that it's better to just use a charger that has a similar current rating to the stock charger. I higher-rated one might charge the battery just fine, but I'd rather keep all of that heat in the charger and away from the battery. Although, of course I could be mistaken -- feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Hello all,
I am trying to figure out which is the fastest charger, wired or wireless for the Nexus 5. To do this, I suggest we gather measurements about the charging speed for the phone charging when it has less than 75% charge.
My results are the following so far:
T-Mobile dual usb wall charger 700-800 mA
this ebay Qi charger [1] 200-300 mA
[1] http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Qi...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item51b121c146
Note that the T-mobile dual USB charger was the power source when using the Qi charger and the same microUSB cable was used in both cases.
Does anybody have a wired or wireless charger that can charge faster?
Also, I am using the Elixir 2 app to measure the mA, is there an alternative that does not require the screen on (I feel that it may affect the measurements)?
The one that outputs more mah will charge faster.
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They're both awful outputs u need at least 1000 mA / 1A output. You can damage the battery with underpowered charge rates
Also that eBay link states 1A output in the description
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Guys, for the wired chargers, we are not talking about the STATED MAXIMUM OUTPUT here, we are talking about the output IN PRACTICE. Most chargers are rated for instantaneous output (it can output 1A or 2A or whatever is listed on the charger, but only for a millisecond, then the rate will fall off).
Please use the app and let me know what your rates for wired charging are (not that the rates fall off when the device is charged more than 75%, so try to test when the charge is lower than that). I bet the rate you find will be lower than 800mA, but if this is not the case, I am curous on the charger and cable that you use.
As for the wireless charger, I know it is very very bad, am trying to return it.
A poor/cheap usb cable will make a massive difference too. I once had a cable that wouldn't let more than 384mA through it!
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Exactly! This is why I picked the cable I am using now, but I could not get over 900mA with this combination of cable + charger. The Charger is a T-mobile dual USB 3A charger and in my opinion it is very good.
The stock wired charger is rated for 1.2A and actually charges at just over 1 A. The charging chipset in the phone limits charging to 1.5 A max.
The nexus wireless charger charges at 750 mA max. Bad positioning and cases will reduce wireless charging efficiency though.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
I've noticed that during wireless charging my phone will charge at 500-600mA up until 85-87% and after that it will charge at 300mA to 100%, so make sure when you are testing to test at lower battery capacity. Also, try wireless charging from a USB port of a computer, I've noticed that I got better performance form USB port than from 2A touchpad charger.
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Wired charging is always going to be faster than wireless charging. Wireless charging on the Nexus 4 Orb takes about twice as long as charging via the supplied wired charger with the Nexus 5. Technology is going to have to advance quite a bit before wireless charging eclipses wired charging. There is an inherent inefficiency with wireless charging that wired charging does not have.
i bough one of those white, skewed ones off ebay for 10€ shipped and am pretty happy with it!
I have information regarding the Note 10+'s 45W charging ability. I just completed my own charging speed comparison. I depleted two Note 10+'s and am charging them from 0 with the phones powered off. One is on the 45W charger and the cable it comes with. The other is on the original Note 10+ charger, BUT is using an aftermarket USB 3.1 Gen 2 C to C cable. The results are VERY surprising!
At around 7 minutes, the 45W charger jumped out ahead at about 23% while the original charger was around 15%. Somewhere between that 7 minute timeframe and 15 minutes though, the original charger caught up. At 15 minutes both phones were at 36%.
Here's where it gets interesting though. At 30 minutes, the original charger actually pulled ahead of the 45W charger! The 45W was at 65%, while the original charger was at 69%.
At 45 minutes, the 45W charger closed the gap ever so slightly, with it being at 83% while the original charger was at 86%.
At 60 minutes, the gap closed a bit more. The 45W charger turned in a charging percentage of 95% , while the original charger had a percentage of 96%
At 67 minutes, the original charger reached 100%, while the 45W charger was a little behind at 97%. The 45W charger would then finally reach 100% 2 minutes later ( a total of 69 minutes).
In summary, I found that with a USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable, the original Note 10+ charger is capable of the same charging speeds (actually slightly faster) as the 45W charger.
Cool test, you have a link to the specific cable you used??
Sounds more like a faulty battery for me
Interesting! Would you have a link to the type of cable?
Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?
And could you repeat the test but swap the carger for the device (the one with orig charger gets 45w), just to make sure it isn't a phone "problem"
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Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?
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That's actually what I intend to do when I finish depleting the battery. I'm hypothesizing that the charge time will likely not be any different than with the cable the 45W comes with, as I'm guessing that cable is likely a USB 3.1 gen 2 cable. I'm guessing the cable that comes with the original charger is probably a gen 1 cable (just a theory).
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Cool test, you have a link to the specific cable you used??
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Interesting! Would you have a link to the type of cable?
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I used these cables.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F3HVYTJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Dolgogi said:
Have you tried this same test using that cable with the 45w charger?
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I just completed it with the other cable in the 45W charger, and the results were almost the same (it reached 100% at 64 minutes) as they were with the cable that comes with it (pictures attached). Looks like the charger that comes with the Note 10+ is capable of more than we gave it credit for. We just have to make sure we're using a USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable with it.
I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
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Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?
Dolgogi said:
I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
Edit:
Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?
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It's not a stupid question lol. But yes, I have it enabled. Most of the other 45W tests I've seen have had results comparable to my 45W test. There seems to be a pronounced slow down towards the end. I don't know why Floss' test came out the way it did, but I can't replicate that on my two devices, and I haven't seen 50 minutes elsewhere either.
I didn't see any significant improvement with the gen 2 cable . it's taking same charging time as stock cable which came with the box.
The generation version only increase the bandwidth capability of the cable and should not have anything to do with charging.
If I'm not wrong, there should be something with the stock 45W cable to enable faster charge since it must goes beyond official USB-C specs.
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The other thing to take in consideration with newly discovery made here is that the official battery capacity can be between 4170 and 4300 mAh.
ran816 said:
I didn't see any significant improvement with the gen 2 cable . it's taking same charging time as stock cable which came with the box.
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The cable also has to be 5A and yours might not be. And use the cable that came with each charger (or 5A).
It's harder to find longer cables that meet all the specs but I bought several of these and they've been terrific...
USB C to USB C Cable 5A Fast Charging, CableCreation 10ft USB C to C Cable,Support 100W Power Delivery (PD), Compatible with MacBook(Pro) 15-inch, Google Pixel 3XL, Samsung Note 8 & More,3M/Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZWUNCH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DtpWDbMVWMT3Z
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Are you doing this with the the device off? Try leaving the devices on and see what happens. I know between 1-80% it goes a lot faster with the 45W charger over the 25W charger. The ET I don't bother following them because it's an estimate not a constant.
Dolgogi said:
I wonder why there's so much variation in people's charging results.
For example, with the video put out by Flossy Carter, he got 50mins from 0% to 100% with the 45w charger and a little over an hour with the 25w charger.
He charged 2 Note10+ phones at the same time, with the above chargers.
https://youtu.be/jDBFcGJZQfQ
Edit:
Possibly stupid question, but you do have fast wired charging enabled, right?
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Flossy results are about the same as mine. Right under an hour from 0-100% and roughly 50 mins from like 10-15% to full. I am happy with that. Using a 10 ft cable as well not the factory Samsung charger
Man your chargers are both charging at 25W, 45W charging should last from 0% to 100% about 60 minutes, many finish in 58/59 minutes