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So I used Visionary to root my HTC Desire Z, checked that it was rooted with Android Terminal Emulator using su returning #
I then proceeded to delete all the .apk's of the bloatware in /system/app folder
Upon restart they reappeared. I've tried 3 different file managers and I also tried deleting their data folders in /data/data and now matter what I do they reappear on a restart.
Does this mean it is hard coded into the ROM? DO I have to wait for a permanent root and flash a new stock ROM minus the bloatware?
Anyone found a solution or maybe i'm doing it wrong...
This is another example of where we're miles behind the G2 forums. Check out the G2 ROM Dev forum, there is an app there to show how you can delete built-in apps and then they won't reappear.
But BE CAREFUL ! It will probably be the case that if you go down this road, you may have a problem with future OTA updates.
The reason it's not working with your current method is that you're not really deleting anything. Write access to the internal storage is not possible right now (it is being worked on intensively for the G2), so the phone is caching the file system and making it appear they've been deleted, but the internal storage hasn't been updated. So when you reboot, the app just comes back again. This is how come there's been a myth that the phone automatically "un-does" any changes and resets itself when you reboot - it's not really doing that, because you didn't make any permanent changes in the first place.
steviewevie said:
This is another example of where we're miles behind the G2 forums. Check out the G2 ROM Dev forum, there is an app there to show how you can delete built-in apps and then they won't reappear.
But BE CAREFUL ! It will probably be the case that if you go down this road, you may have a problem with future OTA updates.
The reason it's not working with your current method is that you're not really deleting anything. Write access to the internal storage is not possible right now (it is being worked on intensively for the G2), so the phone is caching the file system and making it appear they've been deleted, but the internal storage hasn't been updated. So when you reboot, the app just comes back again. This is how come there's been a myth that the phone automatically "un-does" any changes and resets itself when you reboot - it's not really doing that, because you didn't make any permanent changes in the first place.
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Thanks for the explanation! Hmm yeah, I don't know if I want to start flashing roms or leave it stock because it's pretty decent stock. And I did hear that updating/upgrading to new OS's have problems is you delete the bloatware programs...
Thanks again
st1n6r4y said:
So I used Visionary to root my HTC Desire Z, checked that it was rooted with Android Terminal Emulator using su returning #
I then proceeded to delete all the .apk's of the bloatware in /system/app folder
Upon restart they reappeared. I've tried 3 different file managers and I also tried deleting their data folders in /data/data and now matter what I do they reappear on a restart.
Does this mean it is hard coded into the ROM? DO I have to wait for a permanent root and flash a new stock ROM minus the bloatware?
Anyone found a solution or maybe i'm doing it wrong...
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try this method:
1. install VISIONary
2. install busybox
3. install titanium backup
4. run VISIONary
5. Run BusyBox
6. install busybox through the installer
7. run Titanium Back-up
8. find the app you don't want
9. press and hold and an a contextual menu will pop up and select the last option
or check our this link: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...move-applications-using-the-recovery-exploit/
i did it this way and have master reset many times and all the Bell Bloatware is gone, BUT... i had to repeat the steps 4 - 9 after each time, but the crapware is gone!
seattleboi1982 said:
try this method:
1. install VISIONary
2. install busybox
3. install titanium backup
4. run VISIONary
5. Run BusyBox
6. install busybox through the installer
7. run Titanium Back-up
8. find the app you don't want
9. press and hold and an a contextual menu will pop up and select the last option
or check our this link: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...move-applications-using-the-recovery-exploit/
i did it this way and have master reset many times and all the Bell Bloatware is gone, BUT... i had to repeat the steps 4 - 9 after each time, but the crapware is gone!
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Cool thanks!
seattleboi1982 said:
try this method:
1. install VISIONary
2. install busybox
3. install titanium backup
4. run VISIONary
5. Run BusyBox
6. install busybox through the installer
7. run Titanium Back-up
8. find the app you don't want
9. press and hold and an a contextual menu will pop up and select the last option
or check our this link: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...move-applications-using-the-recovery-exploit/
i did it this way and have master reset many times and all the Bell Bloatware is gone, BUT... i had to repeat the steps 4 - 9 after each time, but the crapware is gone!
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Tried this method. Everything works fine (rooted, Busybox installed), but when I try to pick the option to "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)" I get the error message "Cannot remove system app, Failed to locate apk file".
What am I doing wrong?
redpoint73 said:
Tried this method. Everything works fine (rooted, Busybox installed), but when I try to pick the option to "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)" I get the error message "Cannot remove system app, Failed to locate apk file".
What am I doing wrong?
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Never mind, I figured it out. You need to have either S-OFF or CID unlock in order for this method to work. I was only rooted, and intentionally not S-OFF and SuperCID. I used the gfree method to S-OFF and SuperCID, and the above method of removing the bloatware seems to be working perfectly now.
redpoint73 said:
Never mind, I figured it out. You need to have either S-OFF or CID unlock in order for this method to work. I was only rooted, and intentionally not S-OFF and SuperCID. I used the gfree method to S-OFF and SuperCID, and the above method of removing the bloatware seems to be working perfectly now.
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It was the S-OFF. Unless you have S-OFF, you still have write protection on the system and recovery partitions. So apps will appear to get deleted as the information is written to cache. But they'll come back on a reboot because the information was never written to (deleted from) permanent storage.
So if I'm rooted using Visionary and have S off using the gfree method but I never installed busybox.. What would be the best method? Can I just install busybox and install or would I need to do another method?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Rickroller said:
So if I'm rooted using Visionary and have S off using the gfree method but I never installed busybox.. What would be the best method? Can I just install busybox and install or would I need to do another method?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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Just install Busybox.
The above method worked great EXCEPT for one app: Kobo (e-reader). I've tried to force remove in Titanium Backup three times now, and also tried using the "regular" un-install option in Titanium Backup. Every time the phone reboots, Kobo is still there.
Any ideas?
I used an app called system app remover i think thats the name...not 100% suree...but i got it to get rid of wifi calling cuz im on roger and tmobile wifi calling wouldnt work so i tried the titanium back up method and it didnt work so i looked around and android underground had a download for the app and it removed the app and it went into an fc loop so i pulled the battery and it is gone and rom runs perfectly fine
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SN4K3B1T3 said:
I used an app called system app remover i think thats the name...not 100% suree...but i got it to get rid of wifi calling cuz im on roger and tmobile wifi calling wouldnt work so i tried the titanium back up method and it didnt work so i looked around and android underground had a download for the app and it removed the app and it went into an fc loop so i pulled the battery and it is gone and rom runs perfectly fine
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Using an app called Absolute System Root Tool has the feature to uninstall system apps, and this worked for me to remove Kobo.
I tried rooting to chainfires root process but after doing this 6 times after it boots back i get the message that Unfortunately SuperSu has stopped working and on top of that i keep getting the notification Unauthorized access to a secured area has been blocked. Im not sure if i did something wrong cause i followed his instructions step by step exactly right am i missing something or what is the deal.. please help
update i realize i forgot to say what phone im rooting lol
i have samsung galaxy note 2 with 4.3
I am in the same situation. I was able to root my S4, but I can't get my wife's Note 2 to root. Every issue you have I am having also. Hopefully someone will be able to help us.
critter1332 said:
I tried rooting to chainfires root process but after doing this 6 times after it boots back i get the message that Unfortunately SuperSu has stopped working and on top of that i keep getting the notification Unauthorized access to a secured area has been blocked. Im not sure if i did something wrong cause i followed his instructions step by step exactly right am i missing something or what is the deal.. please help
update i realize i forgot to say what phone im rooting lol
i have samsung galaxy note 2 with 4.3
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+1.
Frustrated. :banghead:
Any help would be appreciated.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk
chconser said:
+1.
Frustrated. :banghead:
Any help would be appreciated.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk
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I finally got mine rooted. Do everything in this post. I was able to remove KNOX and finally get my damn phone rooted! This was used to root my wife's Sprint Note 2 with the OTA 4.3 update. here
is the complete thread if you want to see it all. The link I posted first is the 3rd post from that thread.
Doing those steps WILL FIX your issues with not being able to root your Note 2.
I actually boot looped my wife's Note 2 in the process, so if you do brick/boot loop it, then follow these instructions. That put the phone back to the OTA 4.3 stock version. I had to put my wife's SD card into my phone and add the files to her SD card (provided in the link I just posted) to get it to work. Me being an idiot is how I boot looped her phone. This was the ONLY way I could get it to work... and I tried so many methods I found here, youtube, and online.
Good luck gentleman! Let me know if I can help you anymore!
baseband version
i was wondering if the baseband version could have anything to do with it (im still new to rooting) i have L900VPUBMK4 on my phone but when i looked around in other places i noticed people having L900VPAMK4 is there a difference an could this be why mine wont root
i will try your method above an thanks so much for posting this i will let you know of my outcome
oops miss spelled the baseband version i have LP900VPUBK4 but others have L900VPAMK4
tried
smashedixnay said:
I finally got mine rooted. Do everything in this post. I was able to remove KNOX and finally get my damn phone rooted! This was used to root my wife's Sprint Note 2 with the OTA 4.3 update. here
is the complete thread if you want to see it all. The link I posted first is the 3rd post from that thread.
Doing those steps WILL FIX your issues with not being able to root your Note 2.
I actually boot looped my wife's Note 2 in the process, so if you do brick/boot loop it, then follow these instructions. That put the phone back to the OTA 4.3 stock version. I had to put my wife's SD card into my phone and add the files to her SD card (provided in the link I just posted) to get it to work. Me being an idiot is how I boot looped her phone. This was the ONLY way I could get it to work... and I tried so many methods I found here, youtube, and online.
Good luck gentleman! Let me know if I can help you anymore!
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I tried this but when i did the kingo software it immediately asked me to grant supersu an had a button on bottom of kingo that said ok so i look at my phone but no supersu so i still kept going thru the process an then noticed in kingo where its suppose to say what phone type is connected it says samsung device an from seeing it on other sites of people connecting there devices it had there device names reconised so not sure if its not doing that correctly for my phone or what but after running the software which frozen for awhile when it came to the part that said checking root an then it said waiting for device for awhile an then stopped an said root failed
i cant even get passed step one
I finally rooted my note 2
i tried cf's method an im not sure what went wrong but something did an it wouldnt root so i then tried kingo but at first i noticed that when connecting my note to kingo it just said samsung device it didnt reconize it fully to it saying samsung sphl900 so i knew something wasnt right an then after trying to root it failed so i then noticed that in download mode it said it was customized so i downloaded USER_L900_SPT_MC2_to_MK4_Update_FWD an used odin an then opened the download again on my phone an it finally said samsung official so i then went back to kingo an it did reconize my phone an it did finally root it ,,, im new to rooting an not sure if this will actually help anyone but its what i went thru to get mine rooted an thanks to everyone that has helped me
I was able to fix the same issue...
chconser said:
+1.
Frustrated. :banghead:
Any help would be appreciated.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk
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I had the same issue and fixed it like this -
1. Installed ES File explorer and open it.
2. Press Menu on the phone and scroll down and turn ON Root Explorer and hit Back.
3. Choose Device from the top menu (dropdown)
4. From the bottom menu, choose search and search for super and you should see superuser.apk.
5. Choose that and install it.
From there you should be able to disable KNOX and open SuperSu
kkgiyer said:
I had the same issue and fixed it like this -
1. Installed ES File explorer and open it.
2. Press Menu on the phone and scroll down and turn ON Root Explorer and hit Back.
3. Choose Device from the top menu (dropdown)
4. From the bottom menu, choose search and search for super and you should see superuser.apk.
5. Choose that and install it.
From there you should be able to disable KNOX and open SuperSu
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I tried this to no avail, getting error message 'Application not installed'. The thing is, when I go into the Play Store it says SuperSU IS installed but I only have the option to open it. There is no 'update' option available like I keep reading everyone suggests to do to fix this problem. And when I attempt to open SuperSU, I get the error message 'Unfortunately, SuperSU has stopped' followed by the KNOX security notice 'Unauthorized access to a secured area has been blocked'.
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Ahh
I am having a similar issue
PhonezDoctor said:
I am having a similar issue
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Same.
Everyone I figured out a simple solution to this. I got my phone back on the 13 from replacement. On the 16 I tried to root for the first time. And KNOX led me into a panic. Reading all the forums and knox blocked every attempt I made, but I neat that ***** into the ground.
1. Get some kind of file Explorer and find the SuperSU apk.
2. ReInstall that bad boy.
3. Immediately after install a message will appear asking if SuperSU can try to disable KNOX.
4. Click it quickly, if you don't knox will try to block it again.
5. You should now have KNOX out of the way. You should now be free to delete that slut!
I chose system app safe remover and searched for all files with KNOX and deleted it. I feel you could probably kill it with any root explorer and know the files you are looking for.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda app-developers app
kkgiyer said:
I had the same issue and fixed it like this -
1. Installed ES File explorer and open it.
2. Press Menu on the phone and scroll down and turn ON Root Explorer and hit Back.
3. Choose Device from the top menu (dropdown)
4. From the bottom menu, choose search and search for super and you should see superuser.apk.
5. Choose that and install it.
From there you should be able to disable KNOX and open SuperSu
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For further clarification, simply clicking on it did not work for me. It gave me an "There is a problem parsing the package."
If you long press on the file then select More from the bottom menu then select Install, it will install properly.
Just wanted to clarify for anybody else who ended up with that issue.
It worked!
kkgiyer said:
I had the same issue and fixed it like this -
1. Installed ES File explorer and open it.
2. Press Menu on the phone and scroll down and turn ON Root Explorer and hit Back.
3. Choose Device from the top menu (dropdown)
4. From the bottom menu, choose search and search for super and you should see superuser.apk.
5. Choose that and install it.
From there you should be able to disable KNOX and open SuperSu
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This worked for me. Once I reinstalled the SuperUser APK, ES asked for access and everything else fell into place. Thanks!
use esfile to solve it
chconser said:
I tried this to no avail, getting error message 'Application not installed'. The thing is, when I go into the Play Store it says SuperSU IS installed but I only have the option to open it. There is no 'update' option available like I keep reading everyone suggests to do to fix this problem. And when I attempt to open SuperSU, I get the error message 'Unfortunately, SuperSU has stopped' followed by the KNOX security notice 'Unauthorized access to a secured area has been blocked'.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk
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I got this done by the following:
1. Do exactly as aforementioned instruction, untill you find superuser.apk
2. Hold your finger on that apk icon untill a little squre show up that you can mark it
3. Find "more"(my is at the right lower corner of the screen), choose it and find "install" on your right.
4. Then install.
I dont know why this apk can be installed through es file, basically it still needs to Android to run the installation, yet it works in this way.
have a try and good luck
I keep having to go back into the file explorer and installing it. It will work for a while then out of the blue it pops up and says it has quit. I am very skeptical to try and go through the flash process to install a different ROM. Currently bone stock 4.3 eff bomb. Any suggestions?
JD
Try and use ODIN to flash TWRP then flash @billard412 to get back to MC2 stock, it will remove KNOX and reset flash counters, if any. Then ODIN TWRP again since it will re-install the stock recovery you can then flash the MK4 kernel, WIFI Fix and MK4 ROM of your choice.
flynhawn2002 said:
Try and use ODIN to flash TWRP then flash @billard412 to get back to MC2 stock, it will remove KNOX and reset flash counters, if any. Then ODIN TWRP again since it will re-install the stock recovery you can then flash the MK4 kernel, WIFI Fix and MK4 ROM of your choice.
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I have warranty bit 1 showing.
JD
jdougs said:
I have warranty bit 1 showing.
JD
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Ok....since you tripped KNOX you cant get rid of that but its ok if you are not returning your phone (maybe out of warranty?) then just ignore it.
Flash away!
Ya the warranty didn't mean squat...I went ahead and tried the SGS3 JELLYBOMB VER 20.0.0.MD5 and it went with no problems. Haven't got the SuperSU has stopped since flashing. Thanks for the encouragement here. So far so good.
JD
What up everybody i'm jamal and new to the xda forum.
But think i possibly found a solution to the KNOX problem (Worked for me atleast)
Follow these steps
1) goto your settings , more , and than app manager
2) scroll over to ALL tab , click on superuser which would bring up settings. Click turn off
3) open up an file explorer app ( i believe any file explorer app would work )
4) NOW the important step.. in the explorer go to your root. Not your sd card data or external card data. Your Root.
5) Once your in the root look for a folder named SYSTEM . from there open the folder APP.
6) Now scroll down untill you see superuser.apk . Click it and install
7) open superuser its going to ask do you want remove KNOX (dont know the exact wording) . Click yes
BINGO Your Rooted...
I ran root checker to verify it and rooted apps working fine.
To anyone missing superuser.apk i can provide it for you just PM me or ill just simply post it here for yall
Thank you so much! I had been stuck behind the knox shield of doom myself, and this worked for me. One note/addition I would put on your steps... at the end, after you have installed superuser.apk and you open it up, at least for me, I had to move VERY quickly to disable knox. Say... within a second or two (max) or knox would squash me. Once I hit that yes button (on try number 2) it seemed to work like a champ! Thanmks again.
Thank you so much!! Ive been trying to get rid of that knox shield all day! Your a life saver!!!!!!! Question ? I had rooted my phone like a month and out of nowhere knox was tripped. How can this happen if it knox was frozen
frozen... as in frozen with Titanium BU? If that is the case... I don't see how it could possibly happen... hmmm. Even if its just been "turned off" by SuperSU, I don't know how it would spontaneously come back.
As a note, I had to go in a second (I guess third) time to install SuperSU yet again! Even though Root Checker was saying I was good, I was getting "Unfortunately, SuperSU has stopped" messages... and it wouldn't actually grant root priveledges... So I went in through my explorer again and forced another install. This time, I guess since Knox was already off, it didn't come up with the pop-up, and all of the apps seem to be happy. Woo-hoo.
That was same exact problem I had twice. So I wasn't going crazy. Lol
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Hi guys, I have a sprint note 2 gsm modded and it's extremely annoying that hands free activation pops up every time the phone boots up and shuts itself down(stupid) if I didn't cancel it in time. What is the apk under /system/app that is in charge of this? I'm running kitkat 4.4.2 ne2 stock rom.
Also, I used CF-Auto-Root-t0ltespr-t0ltespr-sphl900 to root my kitkat 4.4.2 ne2 stock rom and like many other people I lost root on reboot every time and have to go to es file explorer to reinstall superuser.apk to regain root. Is there a fix now for that too?
thanks :highfive:
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Hi guys, I have a sprint note 2 gsm modded and it's extremely annoying that hands free activation pops up every time the phone boots up and shuts itself down(stupid) if I didn't cancel it in time. What is the apk under /system/app that is in charge of this? I'm running kitkat 4.4.2 ne2 stock rom.
Also, I used CF-Auto-Root-t0ltespr-t0ltespr-sphl900 to root my kitkat 4.4.2 ne2 stock rom and like many other people I lost root on reboot every time and have to go to es file explorer to reinstall superuser.apk to regain root. Is there a fix now for that too?
thanks :highfive:
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I fixed the root problem by following the instructions of ginkang in the following page
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1842022-Root-S-Note2-4-4-2-Kitkat
quote his words:
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Thank you! Done rooting 4.4.2. Took me about 30min.
I had a problem with SuperSu but reinstalled it and works fine now.
If anybody needs how to root 4.4.2 KitKat:
First, download SuperSu2.0 apk file and transfer to your SD card folder (will come back to this later)
Go to: http://autoroot.chainfire.eu and look for tmobile t889. **You will not find Wind t889v
Use Odin (follow the web instructions)
After that you will just follow the directions and done rooting.
BUT after reboot your phone, you will get "Unfortunately SuperSU has stopped" message.
To solve this,
Use file manager, go to SD card and look for superSU file you transferred earlier and install.
After you get the full access, go to SuperSU and go Settings -> Reinstall.
Then reboot and install SuperSU from Google Play. Everything has been good since then.
Thanks to Will888, kkgiyer, uscpsycho.
Have fun rooting. After installing the SD card access fix apk file , I could use 3rd party apps to access and delete
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ok, i fixed hands free activation issue by removing system update using titanium backup, everything is good now.
Hi,
I'm using LineageOS on my LG G3,
After upgrading from XenonHD-170504-Official-d855.zip to XenonHD-170522-Official-d855.zip my Root Access setting (in developer options) has gone and I don't have root access in any app any more. SuperSu generates this error:
Code:
"SU binary occupied"
Also downgrading to the previous Rom didn't solve the problem.
This method (called how-to-enable-root-in-lineage-os-using) doesn't work, and almost all other methods in XDA such as "KingoRoot", "LG One Click Root " and ... didn't work either..
Any solution would be appreciated.
Thanks
Wrong thread
@light-blue: if you flashed with wipe system, you always must flash su.zip to get su-access (since ROMs come unrooted). Use su2.79 for now, because 2.8x are buggy.
rp158 said:
@light-blue: if you flashed with wipe system, you always must flash su.zip to get su-access (since ROMs come unrooted). Use su2.79 for now, because 2.8x are buggy.
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Thanks @rp158
When I do it nothing happens .
It says that the zip successfully installed (or something like that), and when I boot into the system again I don't see any root access.
Try this...
STEP 1:
Go to Settings. Click on About phone and then Tap Seven times on the Build number.
STEP 2:
Now to enable ROOT access, open Developer options and then scroll a little bit down on the Developer Options settings and look for the Root access setting, which must be showing Disabled.
Just click on the Root access and set it to Apps and ADB or Apps only or ADB only, as per your need.
Chrisenglish90 said:
Try this...
STEP 1:
Go to Settings. Click on About phone and then Tap Seven times on the Build number.
STEP 2:
Now to enable ROOT access, open Developer options and then scroll a little bit down on the Developer Options settings and look for the Root access setting, which must be showing Disabled.
Just click on the Root access and set it to Apps and ADB or Apps only or ADB only, as per your need.
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The problem is exactly here, The Root Access setting has gone from the developer option
Quite. I had the same issue as you though but a different phone but the above solved it for me. I also ran the su installer that was mentioned on the page you read.
Same issue on OnePlus 2 since last LOS update. I suspect is has to do with "su-hide" (see https://lineageos.org/Changelog-9/) but I have no idea how to fix it.
EDIT: The Developer option solution worked for me. I could have sworn I looked for it before posting. Sorry for the noise.
Try Magisk
light-blue said:
The problem is exactly here, The Root Access setting has gone from the developer option
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So I have a P3100 but in my case the issue was solved by using Magisk. Download the latest zip and try flashing that. The thing is once you are all set up with the apk, go to the menu button within the app and then settings and then scroll down to 'Superuser Access' and simply click and choose the Apps and ADB option. Hope it solves your issue (Atleast it did in my case ).
I tried plenty of things but I can not regain root after flashing LineageOS.
I have tried every root flash on here and nothing worked. I don't understand the thread on here claiming to give you root on LineageOS as it's a load of crap. Really pissed off as I wanted to sell my D855 but now have to wait until someone can root...or just downgrade to LP or something with another ROM that doesn't wipe root on install...
Really unacceptable IMO for any ROM to remove root and not have a guaranteed way to regain it.