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Browsing trough the WP7 ROM dump, I came across this folder:
Code:
Phone_DPI_262
This seems to be a new resolution, because Windows mobile always supported DPI 192, 120 and 96.
Maybe this means a higher resolution for the coming Windows Phones.
Just a thought. Let me know what you think about it.
[ElCondor] said:
Browsing trough the WP7 ROM dump, I came across this folder:
Code:
Phone_DPI_262
This seems to be a new resolution, because Windows mobile always supported DPI 192, 120 and 96.
Maybe this means a higher resolution for the coming Windows Phones.
Just a thought. Let me know what you think about it.
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Maybe 800x800 or something. Sounds like an ugly squared tablet.
TheDeadCpu said:
Maybe 800x800 or something. Sounds like an ugly squared tablet.
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How do you know it's 800X800? I was more thinking about 1280X800.
Probably, but come to think of it.. Theres something called XGA and thats 1024×768.
To keep the widescreen ratio with 800x480 they would need something like 1200x720. Of course they are going to have other aspect ratios so I don't know.
This is a nice graphic that shows all resolutions...
I think WXGA would be the one that comes very close as it is 5:3 resolution just like WVGA.
262 DPI was actually mentioned by MS at MIX when they were talking about WVGA. I personally completely fail to understand what it means - it's supposed to be dots per inch, right? So without the size of the screen DPI is what exactly?
Well the screens won't get much bigger than the HD2 I think, expect if they're going to make tablets.
The problem is, the bigger the screen the lower DPI you should get at the same resolution. However, all VGA and WVGA devices previously had 192DPI in WM, regardless of screen size. So I guess it's a different thing here. What exactly it is I don't know.
vangrieg said:
The problem is, the bigger the screen the lower DPI you should get at the same resolution. However, all VGA and WVGA devices previously had 192DPI in WM, regardless of screen size. So I guess it's a different thing here. What exactly it is I don't know.
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That's true. I guess it doesn't tell us much, but at least it's bigger so either the screen size, or the screen resolution will probably be bigger.
WinMo 6.x supported 4 Logical DPIs (note that logical DPI is different from physical DPI, which is the bit that varies with each LCD panel/resolution)
96, 128, 131, 192
Note that a 5 inch panel might be operating at the same logical DPI as a 4 inch panel (lets say 192), but the physical DPI would be less on the 5 inch panel (larger physical pixel size)
If you were to change the logical DPI on a 4 inch screen from 192 to 262, while leaving the physical DPI the same (screen size/resolution does not change) - all on-screen elements would appear larger - more pixels would be used to draw each icon, scrollbar, etc.
Windows Phone 7 is showing 4 logical DPI's right now too:
96, 131, 192, 262
Just that we've lost 128 and picked up 262
Okay. But does that mean higher resolutions? Do you know if there will be higher resolutions?
The design of WinPhone 7 pretty much allows an arbitrary resolution, it's designed to be fully scalable. 1920x1280 @ 262 DPI @ 4 inches would make one ridiculous high res screen
As for what's in store, I wouldn't be surprised to see a large-format screen device like a tablet in the months following WP7's release.. but I don't have any specific knowledge of one yet.
Da_G said:
The design of WinPhone 7 pretty much allows an arbitrary resolution, it's designed to be fully scalable. 1920x1280 @ 262 DPI @ 4 inches would make one ridiculous high res screen
As for what's in store, I wouldn't be surprised to see a large-format screen device like a tablet in the months following WP7's release.. but I don't have any specific knowledge of one yet.
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Okay, yeah that would be indeed an amazing screen resolution for such a small screen!
A tablet would be very cool, I wonder if that's what HTC is working on.
Da_G said:
As for what's in store, I wouldn't be surprised to see a large-format screen device like a tablet in the months following WP7's release.. but I don't have any specific knowledge of one yet.
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But you do have general knowledge of one
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But you do have general knowledge of one
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Hehe nice one there. I'd like to know that too.
Maybe they need it for fully working HDTV support, although we're yet to see WP7 device that supports HDMI interface...
Possibly.
Zune supports it, so it would be odd if they wouldn't add HDMI support for WP7.
dont forget guys...higher resolution doesnt necessarily mean a larger screen.
you can still have a 1280 X 1024 etc etc higher res screen while still making it into a 3.7-4.3 inch screen.
hell you could even have a higher res screen into a 2.8 inch slot.
the difference with display screen isnt always about the resolution however its about the Pixel Size, the larger each pixel is the large the screen is, the smaller the pixels the smaller the screen.
just to give you guys a head up, at work i was wokring with an OLED Microdisplay screen that had the resolution of 1280 X 1024, YES better resolution than most HD TVS, however the display screen was less than an inch small, the reason is was because of how small the pixels were. its pretty cool.
hasseye said:
dont forget guys...higher resolution doesnt necessarily mean a larger screen.
you can still have a 1280 X 1024 etc etc higher res screen while still making it into a 3.7-4.3 inch screen.
hell you could even have a higher res screen into a 2.8 inch slot.
the difference with display screen isnt always about the resolution however its about the Pixel Size, the larger each pixel is the large the screen is, the smaller the pixels the smaller the screen.
just to give you guys a head up, at work i was wokring with an OLED Microdisplay screen that had the resolution of 1280 X 1024, YES better resolution than most HD TVS, however the display screen was less than an inch small, the reason is was because of how small the pixels were. its pretty cool.
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Really, oh that's nice. Such screens would be really amazing on mobile devices.
I was wondering...
Is there anyway to cut the resolution on the rhodium? I read somewhere that a separate device ran quicker because of its low resolution and screen size--that is, it ran quicker than larger screens with 1ghz processors. The rhodium specs aren't exactly designed to portray 800x600 resolutions >__>, there seems to be a noticeable lag in most shells (SPB, Sense).
Is there anyway to lower the resolution to 640 x 480? I wouldn't mind taking the resolution cut for a faster phone. and is 640 x 480 VGA?
I found this:
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2010/01...-resolution-from-wvga-vga-and-wqvga-qvga.html
but all it does is crop the screen--theres still a black box. Now i'm wondering if we ran a stretched resolution if we could get performance gains. It wouldnt be as crisp as the natural resolution and things would be stretched out, but... would it even be possible or workable? anybody have any input?
Is there a reason the screen looks so bad in certain apps. I have used facebook, ebay, and other shopping apps and the images displayed look very bad, so bad that I want to get rid of the pro 8.4. I returned the 12.2 because I thought it was stretching the images and that was why the images were the way they were, but I have the same issue with the 8.4. I bought both at the same time. Why do the images not look crisp, it has plenty of resolution to output nice images. My ipad mini is far superior to this tablet so far in terms of image quality. I'm considering returning this one too and giving up on android tablets all together.
Anyone?
Open facebook on a ipad,, then open it on the pro...any difference, significant.
Open ebay on a ipad, then open it on the pro...any difference, significant.
Why?
Yet, on my phone, note 2, all looks great.
Not certain, and I don't have my 8.4 with me at the moment.
But my guess is that the Android Facebook, eBay apps you refer to are at a lower resolution than the iPad version. If the app is at a lower resolution, it doesn't matter what res the screen is. Like when you watch a standard definition TV program on an HD television, it looks like crap. On the Note 2, this will look fine as the pixel density is much lower. On the iPad, its easier for app developers to tailor the apps for the screen resolution, since there are only a few different iPad screen resolutions.
So if this is true, its not the fault of the device. Part of the issue may be the Android hardware "fragmentation" that is so often complained about. Or just the laziness on part of the app developers. The apps will probably be updated to a higher resolution, as resolution for Android devices increases across the board. But I wouldn't hold my breath.
There are lots of pros and cons to being on iPad versus Android. And some of those differenes are going to be more or less relevant to you as an individual. I'd weight the benefits in their entirety (as they apply to you), not just screen resolution on a few isolated apps. If iPad is better for you looking at the big picture, then by all means go that route. But otherwise, stick with Android.
Excellent point. Thank u.
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Another reason some images might look bad is because the tablet is such high resolution and has such a good quality display you can notice more JPEG compression on images and other minor defects in webpages ..etc since thats what high quality displays are supposed to do, reveal as much detail as possible, as other displays / might blur or distort the image because of the lower resolution / poor LCD density or add dithering, not to mention some displays aren't SRGB and might make the display more blue or over saturate while they might look better the colors are usually wrong.
I personally own the ipad mini retina model and I find the Samsung tab pro 8.4 has a better display, though the ipad is nice too from a visual standpoint, I don't use facebook but the ebay app, I don't see anything wrong with it they look the same on both the ipad and samsung except the samsung shows more content as it's a widescreen tablet (16:10) where the Ipad is 4:3 (square).
for example
Ipad mini retina (specs of my ipad)
2048 x 1536 = (4:3 QXGA)
Samsung tab pro 8.4
1600 x 2560 = (16:10 WQXGA )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg
^ see here for more details of resolution, WQXGA has about 2 inches of more rendering space then QXGA
Use whatever brings you joy though, they are both great devices I think the apple web browser is much more responsive on certain HTML 5 elements and the Samsung is great for everything else videos, music, tweaking ...etc
Recently got this tab for the high resolution screen but have been disappointed by the Facebook app the pictures are pixelated and videos any way to load them higher resolution ???
bilalrashid said:
Recently got this tab for the high resolution screen but have been disappointed by the Facebook app the pictures are pixelated and videos any way to load them higher resolution ???
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The Facebook app is actually designed for phones. They haven't created a tablet style version of the app yet, so you're better of viewing things in portrait mode on Facebook or try and use the website rather than the app.
Pictures are automatically compressed and loose quality when they've been uploaded to Facebook so that maybe a factor although it pretty much comes down to what the other user (who you're viewing the media from) is using to take pictures or video's and how they're uploading them. It looks perfectly fine on my Tab S.
Just because your screen is a resolution of 2560 x 1600 this doesn't mean that when a person takes a 1920 x 1080 video it will look any better than on a 2560 x 1600 screen. It should actually look a bit worse as it's 2x the pixels of 1920 x 1080 and thus your tablet is having to use 4 pixels for every one pixel that would be used on 1920 x 1080 native screen. This makes images look slightly more blocky when they're not the native resolution of the screen, though this problem is harder to see on a tablet screen due to the size of them. It's hard to describe but I've done my best.
The main area's of advantage you'll get out of a high pixel screen and the AMOLED is from better colour reproductions, clearer UI and better looking webpages/books when reading.
Hope this helps If it does give me a thanks!
And here I thought I was the only one with Facebook video problems. I am glad to know it was not my tablet acting up.
Hi guys,well I want to ask you smart question and I really don't know the answer.
I got myself used Note 10 plus and because of the battery issue I switched to 1080p resolution to save some battery.
Then I opened some webpage like lets say webcam site chaturbate.
From what I know on monitors,higher resolution on monitor gives more web content on screen,so on my 1440p monitor I can see more webcam models on screen compared to 1080p monitor.
I thought then it's the same with phone screens,increasing resolution to 4K,I'll see more webcam models then 2 cams per line which was not the case,switching screen to 4K I haven't seen any difference.
So is it suppose to be like that,or I'm missunderstanding something here?
Why won't it work like on PC monitors/screen?
How can we take advantage of 4K on phones,in my case on Note 10 plus?
Does it have advantage switching to 4K when viewing websites,besides videos ofc?
Even when watching videos I doubt anyone (any human eye) will notice difference on 6.8 " screen with 1080p vs 4K on Note 10 plus.
paparazzo79 said:
Hi guys,well I want to ask you smart question and I really don't know the answer.
I got myself used Note 10 plus and because of the battery issue I switched to 1080p resolution to save some battery.
Then I opened some webpage like lets say webcam site chaturbate.
From what I know on monitors,higher resolution on monitor gives more web content on screen,so on my 1440p monitor I can see more webcam models on screen compared to 1080p monitor.
I thought then it's the same with phone screens,increasing resolution to 4K,I'll see more webcam models then 2 cams per line which was not the case,switching screen to 4K I haven't seen any difference.
So is it suppose to be like that,or I'm missunderstanding something here?
Why won't it work like on PC monitors/screen?
How can we take advantage of 4K on phones,in my case on Note 10 plus?
Does it have advantage switching to 4K when viewing websites,besides videos ofc?
Even when watching videos I doubt anyone (any human eye) will notice difference on 6.8 " screen with 1080p vs 4K on Note 10 plus.
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"4K" or WQHD+ on the note does not really relate to extra space on the screen like computer monitors. as the computer monitor scale back the size of the Icons and increase perceived desk space (depending on monitor size and max resolution capabilities) as the UI on smartphones must be readable the gain is barely perceivable. You can adjust the size of the icon to make it look like you gained some space but it wouldn't be accurate.
The real difference and depending on you, you may or may not perceive it, is on the pixel density.
In 1080p the Note has a certain pixel density, when you shift to "4K", you have a higher count of stacked pixel density. It looks better with some content that supports it but its sort of a cheat. The screen is not actually 4K, kind of like the 7nm vs 10 nm wafers in Intel Vs TSMC foundries. TSMC says it's 7 nanometers and intel 10, but they pack around the same transistor density, the names are mostly marketing.
You wont notice a big, if any, difference due to our own limitations (eysight), you can get a better picture of the issue looking up (Googling) "Full HD vs Quad HD" from the Oled Association.
They break it down a bit ...
Oh okay.Thank you for kind explanation.
Bomn said:
"4K" or WQHD+ on the note does not really relate to extra space on the screen like computer monitors. as the computer monitor scale back the size of the Icons and increase perceived desk space (depending on monitor size and max resolution capabilities) as the UI on smartphones must be readable the gain is barely perceivable. You can adjust the size of the icon to make it look like you gained some space but it wouldn't be accurate.
The real difference and depending on you, you may or may not perceive it, is on the pixel density.
In 1080p the Note has a certain pixel density, when you shift to "4K", you have a higher count of stacked pixel density. It looks better with some content that supports it but its sort of a cheat. The screen is not actually 4K, kind of like the 7nm vs 10 nm wafers in Intel Vs TSMC foundries. TSMC says it's 7 nanometers and intel 10, but they pack around the same transistor density, the names are mostly marketing.
You wont notice a big, if any, difference due to our own limitations (eysight), you can get a better picture of the issue looking up (Googling) "Full HD vs Quad HD" from the Oled Association.
They break it down a bit ...
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I have 20/10 near vision and I really don't notice it. Maybe side by side...
blackhawk said:
I have 20/10 near vision and I really don't notice it. Maybe side by side...
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Meh, its a color game, basicaly they put up more green leds ins ome situation which makes the colors look richer... a poor man's HDR
Bomn said:
Meh, its a color game, basicaly they put up more green leds ins ome situation which makes the colors look richer... a poor man's HDR
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Doesn't seem to use any or just slightly more battery so I guess I'll sample it a while.
Forgot about the WQHD setting.
The 10+ still has one of the best displays. Lots of issues with the high refresh rate displays it seems.
Well, I barely notice a very little difference, very little indeed, and, mostly when viewing photos or videos taken with the best resolutions, for everything else, all look just the same
winoles said:
Well, I barely notice a very little difference, very little indeed, and, mostly when viewing photos or videos taken with the best resolutions, for everything else, all look just the same
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Went back to FHD. WQHD uses more battery (probably about 1%@hr more) and didn't make a difference I noticed doing what I normally do.
It's cool that it's there like many of the other 10+ options.
I have 20/10 vision.