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My brother wants me to unroot his s3 for warranty exchange, can I do this without tripping flash counter?
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android4545 said:
My brother wants me to unroot his s3 for warranty exchange, can I do this without tripping flash counter?
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Assuming that you rooted the phone without tripping the counter (check the number in download mode of your phone), unrooting w/o tripping is easy. Just flash a Samsung stock rom on the phone. Since it's straight from Samsung Kies and not a custom image, it doesn't bump your counter.
Link to thread with stock images, LG1 is the newest release from Samsung: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737848
If you did trip your counter when you rooted, there is an App called TriangleAway. It's sold in the Play store for a fee, or you can download the APK from the XDA forum site and push it to your phone for free. If you need that thread, let me know.
Hope this helps. Cheers!
I need to send my phone back to T-Mobile because Im trading it for an s3 to my friend. Nothing is wrong with the phone he just wants a refurbished one. Now im wondering where is the flash counter located if any. I put it in download mode and it didn't say anything mmaybe I am looking at the wrong place?
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seedofchaos said:
I need to send my phone back to T-Mobile because Im trading it for an s3 to my friend. Nothing is wrong with the phone he just wants a refurbished one. Now im wondering where is the flash counter located if any. I put it in download mode and it didn't say anything mmaybe I am looking at the wrong place?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1578184
Flash the file in that thread. Then boot to download mode and check to see if you get a "NO" for custom binary
I didn't install it because im worried about brick, but it does say "no" where it needs to. Kind if wierd correct me if im mistaking but I rooted through Odin shouldn't it be at least one? Or am I fine to send it in.
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seedofchaos said:
I didn't install it because im worried about brick, but it does say "no" where it needs to. Kind if wierd correct me if im mistaking but I rooted through Odin shouldn't it be at least one? Or am I fine to send it in.
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There's no risk of brick, no one has had an issue because of this. But in any case, you're fine with a no. The counter is only tripped when you flash a custom kernel through Odin (rom and recovery is fine). When you first went through the root process, all you did was flash a recovery through Odin, thus you didn't trip the counter. So to go back to stock you should do this in order if your counter hasn't tripped:
1)flash stock kernel through cwm/twrp
2)flash stock rom/recovery through Odin
That way you don't trip the counter.
seedofchaos said:
I didn't install it because im worried about brick, but it does say "no" where it needs to. Kind if wierd correct me if im mistaking but I rooted through Odin shouldn't it be at least one? Or am I fine to send it in.
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you didn't technically root through odin, you just flash a recovery through odin and that doesn't trigger the flash counter for some reason.
Do not flash that flash counter, it's been reported that its been causing bricks
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bmakk2055 said:
Do not flash that flash counter, it's been reported that its been causing bricks
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2 people bricked out of countless that didn't brick, including myself and mrx. Those two people either had a bad download, or, more than likely did something stupid. In the case of a bad download, mrx switched file hosts so that shouldn't be an issue.
The saying in favor of gun rights applies here too: zips don't brick phones, people brick phones.
yoft1 said:
There's no risk of brick, no one has had an issue because of this. But in any case, you're fine with a no. The counter is only tripped when you flash a custom kernel through Odin (rom and recovery is fine). When you first went through the root process, all you did was flash a recovery through Odin, thus you didn't trip the counter. So to go back to stock you should do this in order if your counter hasn't tripped:
1)flash stock kernel through cwm/twrp
2)flash stock rom/recovery through Odin
That way you don't trip the counter.
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Will it matter if I have ics if I flash stock kernal? And if so would it be a problem if I flashed the Rom directly after through Odin?
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Hi all, just switched to this phone from Sprints epic 4g touch. I have a couple of questions:
1. Is there a way to root my phone and have a custom recovery and custom rom without tripping my flash counter and voiding my warranty?
2. Is it possible to completely remove root and go back to stock everything without tripping the flash counter?
Those are my main concerns since I use this phone for personal and business purposes. On a side note, what is everyone's opinion of the best rom when it comes to battery and smoothness? I am totally new to this phone, carrier and jelly bean.
Thanks a lot for your time, its a pleasure to meet everyone!
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toobz said:
Hi all, just switched to this phone from Sprints epic 4g touch. I have a couple of questions:
1. Is there a way to root my phone and have a custom recovery and custom rom without tripping my flash counter and voiding my warranty?
2. Is it possible to completely remove root and go back to stock everything without tripping the flash counter?
Those are my main concerns since I use this phone for personal and business purposes. On a side note, what is everyone's opinion of the best rom when it comes to battery and smoothness? I am totally new to this phone, carrier and jelly bean.
Thanks a lot for your time, its a pleasure to meet everyone!
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Yes I've done ty myself. The new jelly bean update makes things a bit tricky though.
You cannot have a custom recovery without tripping flash counter. With jelly bean, tripping the flash counter happens when booting to recovery.
To remove flash counter, use triangle away or the manual method to restore flash counter to zero. Then using Odin flash the jelly bean stock ROM.
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Thanks for the quick response. Doesn't odin trip the flash counter? So using triangle away completely resets the counter and I get my warranty back?
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toobz said:
Thanks for the quick response. Doesn't odin trip the flash counter? So using triangle away completely resets the counter and I get my warranty back?
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Nothing is guaranteed. There is a chance triangle away will brick your phone and you end up with no warranty and no phone. Be warned Generally odin does not trip the flash counter if you odin stock firmware.
I personally have used Triangle away on multiple devices, chainfire is a genius but makes absolutely no promises about the software.
Do many people brick using it? As long as I don't brick I will have my warranty restored?
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toobz said:
Do many people brick using it? As long as I don't brick I will have my warranty restored?
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Yes that is the thought at least. Again, I would be extremely hesistant to guarantee anything. As soon as you flash a custom mod your warranty is genuinely void, it is not just something all the devs put on for fun.
I see stories infrequently on these forums of people bricking their phones or claiming at least triangle away bricked their phone. It is impossible for me to say if its "many" people or not. Like I said I use it but I know if the phone bricks its my fault.
I'm ready glad questions that have never been asked before are being asked.
Odin cf auto root, triangle away reset, Odin stock jeebs, warranty.
Another option is rooting with something like root66 (root injected stock - I believe it won't trip the flash counter, but I'd check the thread) and using a launcher if you don't like TouchWiz.
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psykhotic said:
I'm ready glad questions that have never been asked before are being asked.
Odin cf auto root, triangle away reset, Odin stock jeebs, warranty.
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Too funny as I was thinking the same thing too while trying to catch up on all things SG3 before mine arrives tomorrow. Guess peeps in these threads are too lazy to read as well Cheers!
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Thank you for the help, I will try one of those options.
Is there a custom rom out there that has a stock look but improves battery life and performance? I am getting decent life stock unrooted but I think it could be better. Is wiked pretty much the top rom right now for battery life stability and performance?
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toobz said:
Thank you for the help, I will try one of those options.
Is there a custom rom out there that has a stock look but improves battery life and performance? I am getting decent life stock unrooted but I think it could be better. Is wiked pretty much the top rom right now for battery life stability and performance?
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Although development has recently stopped, frosty is by far the best TouchWiz rom I tried. Incredible battery life and rock solid stability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1874063
Give the correct information about flash counters, please.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
"TriangleAway was built to disable the triangle (if a visual warning is present) and reset the custom ROM flash counter to 0. This app requires root !"
After flashing twrp, rooting, and flashing a rom my counter is at 1 even though i used the guide that said it would not trip the counter.
The counter stays at 1 even when flashing more things through recovery.
I read somewhere that if the flash counter is at 1 the warranty is not voided, and only if it is more than 1 it is voided. is this true?
Ive called samsung but they were giving me some weird answers and they had no idea what they were talking about.
Use triangle away app.
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Won't matter on new firmware. Stop worrying about the flash counter.
Aerowinder said:
Won't matter on new firmware. Stop worrying about the flash counter.
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what?
Stop worrying about flash counter.
Aerowinder said:
Stop worrying about flash counter.
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But doesnt it affect the status of the warranty?
Yes but it can be easily reset with triangle away.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Yes but it can be easily reset with triangle away.
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yes i understand this, but i was asking if the warranty is voided when the flash counter is >1 or >0 ?
Since we got updated to jb, the way the counter works changed. If I remember right, it will always show 1 if you have a custom recovery or kernel installed.
I keep stock recovery and use Mobile Odin for my flashing needs.
If you need to, just reset with triangle away and reflash stock firmware.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Since we got updated to jb, the way the counter works changed. If I remember right, it will always show 1 if you have a custom recovery or kernel installed.
I keep stock recovery and use Mobile Odin for my flashing needs.
If you need to, just reset with triangle away and reflash stock firmware.
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Alright thanks for the clarification. It all makes sense now.
chromium96 said:
yes i understand this, but i was asking if the warranty is voided when the flash counter is >1 or >0 ?
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Technically, yes it voids your warranty. But if you're worried about that you may not want to root to begin with as that also voids it.
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Can we root the official At&T 4.3 yet?
I Odin'd my phone back to 4.1.2 before sending it out due to a bad headphone jack. It updated to 4.3 today and curious when my replacement comes and probably has 4.3 on it already, can it be rooted quick and just run a rooted stock for a while?
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Good KNOX info http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm
This is what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644
after you do it you will have to update SU through the play store and then it will disable knox for you as well..
Geeve
geeve420 said:
This is what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980644
after you do it you will have to update SU through the play store and then it will disable knox for you as well..
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Thanks alot!
No worries! Just keep in mind after you do it you'll get notifications about knox and security. Ignore them and head to the play store to update SU, because you won't be able to open SU till then. Also bear in mind that this will trip the knox counter and there is no going back.....it will void your warranty! You have been warned
Geeve
geeve420 said:
No worries! Just keep in mind after you do it you'll get notifications about knox and security. Ignore them and head to the play store to update SU, because you won't be able to open SU till then. Also bear in mind that this will trip the knox counter and there is no going back.....it will void your warranty! You have been warned
Geeve
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KNOX counter is seperate from the Flash Counter? Before when I was on stock 4.1.2 and flashed custom 4.3 and 4.4 roms , I never saw any KNOX notifications or warning...Is this new with the 4.3 OTA?
My first phone had headphone jacks issues too. i reset it with odin and had it replaced with no issues from at&T. Now this one is repeating the same issue. I Odin back to 4.1.2 and took the 4.3 OTA before i call them and they want to remote desktop into my phone like before.
If KNOX only comes with the 4.3 OTA i wont take it if the replacment phone doesnt come with 4.3 preloaded
Anyway of confirm KNOX status on my phone? or is it something at&t doesnt look at
I Rebooted into download mode and it says KNOX Warranty VOID:0
So i guess I am good with this one......?
Never saw the KNOX before in download mode...So it must have came with the 4.3 OTA
If the replacemnt comes preloaded with 4.3 and I root theres no going back for non rooting warranty issues
If it comes with 4.1.2 i should be ok...cause my others came with 4.1.2 and i rooted and installed 4.3 and 4.4 roms , odin'd back to 4.1.2 and never saw knox before.
It's new in the 4.3 OTA MK6. It is separate from the flash counter and CANNOT as of now be reset. They can see it in the same place the flash counter is.
It will show 1 which means warranty void. If you can get one without 4.3 do it
This is what it looks like now:
Triangle away still works but the knox counter stays no matter what!
Edit: If it is still showing 0, then you are good to go
Geeve
thats good news LOL
4.3 preloaed=screwed if i root it
4.1.2 preloaded= no knox, free to root, flash, unroot and reset , send back with any non root related warranty issues.
Glad i didnt root the OTA in the meantime while i wait for my replacment..
Thanks for all info and help Geeve
You got it and no problem
Geeve
So i guess no custom 4.3 or 4.4 rom will install KNOX behind our backs..Just the OTA and any possible updated bootloaders if we dont pay attension and flash one
Baseband/Modem updates should not install knox...correct?
Correct! all the custom 4.3/4.4 roms use a leaked bootloader and most if not all have the knox stuff removed. It is only the MK6 OTA for our phones that is screwing us right now. We can still root and flash, but warranties are void..
Geeve
This topic won't help me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502464
I hate not being able to tinker
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What is your baseband version in settings -> about device?
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geeve420 said:
What is your baseband version in settings -> about device?
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Here's a screen shot
Looks to me like you have the official MK6 OTA. I wouldn't mess with it if you have to return it. That other thread wont help.
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geeve420 said:
Looks to me like you have the official MK6 OTA. I wouldn't mess with it if you have to return it. That other thread wont help.
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Ok. Thanks
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The more I read in forums the more confusrd I am.. If I just root to do things like change dpi and make builprop edits will that trip Knox or just if I attempt to install TWRP
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Any attempt to flash the device recovery will trip Knox....g
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CF auto root is a custom recovery....with kernel and cache=Knox will be tripped...g
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Any attempt to flash the device recovery will trip Knox....g
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So just rooting and leaving stock recovery will trip?
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