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Hey All..
I was hoping to get some discussion on the pros/cons of the currently available firmwares for the E973.
Recently I had to use the KDZ reflash to bring my phone back to life.. at the time I had used the downloader to grab the .kdz file. I wasn't aware at the time that it was the H version with the most recent update already included.
After a couple weeks with it I decided that I wanted to get root back, so yesterday I reflashed to E97310F and in doing so, I've noticed there are several differences between F and H, and for me with my phone, strangely enough E97310F is far better for me.
The main things I noticed in the change:
- Smoothness of the GUI.. on E97310F I find that things are way smoother.. particularly within the app drawer. Using E97310H when I would click on a folder, the opening animation was a bit sluggish.. the folder would close normally however. Using E97310F this doesn't happen. it opens fine both ways.
- Battery Life - This for me was obvious. When I originally went to E97310H I noticed all the sudden that my battery life took a hit to the point where it was enough to be obvious. Going back to E97310F I've noticed that the battery does definitely last longer. I have no idea why this would be other than that core changes were made either to the kernal or otherwise..
- The wifi signal on the top notification bar was not reporting the proper strength on E97310H.. Often I would find that even though I was 8 ft away from my Wireless N router that I would have 1-2 bars for wireless.. Now back on E97310F its at full strength and displays correctly. I am not sure if there was much difference in performance as I never actually ran tests to prove this thought one way or another.
After using this phone on both versions I definitely am keeping mine on E97310F.. overall it just seems to work better than the latest version, for me anyway.
Are there any other differences that you all have noticed between the two?
Interesting results. I unfortunately haven't been able to test either and am stuck on E97310g because the KDZ Updater Tool won't even recognize my phone (I have some sort of dev or display phone with a weird IMEI).
I'm also considering going back to the f firmware, have you noticed any differences or bugs on the f version?
Also if we download the update, but don't install it, does anyone know where it keeps it temporarily, id like to look at the zip, see if we can make a flashable zip for cwm
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I haven't noticed anything weird with it at all.. I find that its smoother overall and I haven't had any force closes or reboots.. plus since I've rooted and frozen all the apps that would at times run in the background I find its helped free up memory and my battery is lasting much longer.
Does anyone even know what the more recent updates have changed?
Hey guys!
Sorry for the long post, I'm going to write down in one post the story of the phone, because I've had so many problems with it (probably because I'm an amateur) since day 1.
1. When I got my phone I had the usual problems, lagging interface, subpar battery life - I installed nova launcher, tried all the best, it was nearly ok.
2. When android 5.0 came out the phone by itself didn't offer it, however when I plugged it in the PC Suite said that there was new software available, so I installed it. This happened again with another update. The weird thing that after every update, when I switched on the phone it said something like 'the current version is not available for user, somethingsomething' as a notification, but I could easily press the side and it disappeared.
3. About a month ago my phone started going crazy. Firstly it overheated really fast. Secondly, which was much more annoying, it rebooted at random times. A week ago it started rebooting so often I could barely use it. I tried monitoring which apps they were, uninstalling but nothing changed.
4. For this reason I rooted, tried memory leak fix, tried greenify and amplify. The problem still persisted. So my thoughts were, that this must be a hardware issue (the reason I thought this, is because sometimes after rebooting it said it had below 20% battery, even if before rebooting it showed 60%).
5. I unrooted (I think I nearly bricked my phone), and put on stock TOT, so I can bring it back to the provider for a fix. Now it has android 4.4.1., the lagging interface is still there, the problems are just like at day 1. However there is no random rebooting, so its not hardware issue, so Im not rushing to my provider (they take a month and dont give substitute phone).
I tried software update again (I'm european d855), but it said there werent any new software available. I would like to have lollipop.
Please can someone explain why it was overheating and how I can have a stable and rock solid android 5.0 on my phone with normal battery life and without lagging interface? I would love to love this phone but it makes my job very difficult
Thank you in advance!
Have you tried any custom ROM?
Hi,
After receiving the MM update, I noticed a bit of lag to screen scrolling and when using certain apps. You can almost see a slight pause as things move around the screen. In my attempt to start fresh, I performed a factory reset. Unfortunately, the reset hasn't appeared to correct the problem. I'm not sure if there is a setting somewhere that is biting me or if there is a bigger problem. I've also attempted to wipe the cache, but that hasn't improved things either.
Now the phone just feels sluggish at times. Any suggestions?
Thank you!
R
rlewis19 said:
Hi,
After receiving the MM update, I noticed a bit of lag to screen scrolling and when using certain apps. You can almost see a slight pause as things move around the screen. In my attempt to start fresh, I performed a factory reset. Unfortunately, the reset hasn't appeared to correct the problem. I'm not sure if there is a setting somewhere that is biting me or if there is a bigger problem. I've also attempted to wipe the cache, but that hasn't improved things either.
Now the phone just feels sluggish at times. Any suggestions?
Thank you!
R
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Since there is no root on mm i guess at this time ure options are kinda limited. Try developer options and like before previous versions of android try shutting off all the animation scales at least turning them down helps provide a snappier expierence. Closer to the bottom of dev options there should be 3 settings next to each other i turn mine off
The update is a disaster. Keyboard lag makes the phone borderline unusable. Knowing any update has to go through LG amnd VZW before patching again, makes me want to deal with non-removable battery on Nexus next time. Those devices never lag.
btvranger said:
The update is a disaster. Keyboard lag makes the phone borderline unusable. Knowing any update has to go through LG amnd VZW before patching again, makes me want to deal with non-removable battery on Nexus next time. Those devices never lag.
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Not only keyboard lag, lag in app loading, auto rotation is slow and at times doesn't work, pages in Chrome load slow, erratic battery life.
I don't know if this is Verizon or marshmallow that has caused all the issues with this update but I believe this is one of the worst update's I have received on any phone.
A huge disappointment in my opinion!
Edit: 25a update last night resolved most all my issues and most likely others. I don't know about battery life yet, but I am pleased that this update came as quick as it did.!!
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one experiencing these symptoms. I'm not a power user but the phone is doing some very strange things since this update. I'm finding more and more that apps are stopping unexpectedly. Most recently was the google sync process. I'm very tempted to take the phone to a Verizon store and see if a brand new phone has MM on it and if it is having the same problems. If the new phone doesn't have MM, I may try to get them to swap it out.
Interesting. I'm receiving SW Update notification today. I wonder what it resolves.
New 25a update
25a update last night resolved most all my issues and most likely others. I don't know about battery life yet, but I am pleased that this update came as quick as it did.!!
So far I never rooted or flash any rom manually. All OTA updates from Android 6. The phone is getting slow and laggy sometimes which really annoys me. Of course the number of apps installed might be an issue, but I don't have any games, no Facebook. All my apps are utilities like banks, smart homes, etc. I have hard reset a few times but it doesn't help. I believe the updates play some roles here as I didn't remember it being this laggy when I first bought the phone and it was on 6.0
So what should I do? I don't care if it's Android M or N, root or not. I just need a smooth phone. Does flashing back to 6.0 help? Or does rooting help? Thanks
Have you tried backing up your data and doing a factory reset?
Edit: Sorry, I guess that's the same thing as a hard reset. I don't have problems with my S7A being slow, and it's updated to almost the latest version (G1).
I am on BQH1 but I remember it happens in G1 as well. The most annoying thing is the fingerprint ready is not as responsive as before. A lot of time I can't unlock my phone with my finger.
yes , i have noticed after the new update take long time to wake etc , even after the factory reset , i am planning to go back marshmallow
but the interesting thing is that some times its OK no issues .
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Since upgrading to 7.0 Nougat my Play Store is slow as hell. Downloads are fast once it finally connects but it takes forever to start. I have factory reset phone.
Does anyone got a fix on this? The phone is just slow as hell, and I often find it's hard to unlock it, or just open an app...
lifehome said:
Does anyone got a fix on this? The phone is just slow as hell, and I often find it's hard to unlock it, or just open an app...
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Disabling some system apps (AT&T and Samsung bloatware) should help, using Application Manager. Disable apps that have no business running in the background or connecting to the net. Also, run Device Manager from time to time.
To make the Home button significantly responsive, DO NOT map it's double-press action to anything. Make sure that S-Voice cannot use it: disable in S-Voice settings.
I am assuming that your device is non-rooted, just like mine.
I belive earlier updates of Nogat works much MUCH more smooth on this phone.
I'm gonna start over from the D4 verison- I was running stock D4 nogat and everything was amazing... I go to this latest L6 December security update... total trash.
Just curious to see how people are finding the new Oreo for the S7/S7 edge. For me, it's great. Definitely I do see an improvement in performance. Sluggishness is definitely reduced from what I was experiencing in Nougat. Battery life appears to be the same, if not a bit better, but it's hard to tell.
Only issue I've seen is some apps I have are not Oreo ready (such as the previous Power Amp beta, but there is an Alpha out right now that works but is very incomplete in things such as Playlists).
I have noticed that some apps no longer give notifications at all (mainly games with in-app notifications). Not sure if it's because they're not up-to-snuff with Oreo, but the important apps (such as Messenger+) do work just fine in regards to notifications.
Overall, I'm very pleased with this release which in all honesty will probably be the last upgrade for this phone. I still love my S7 and hope it lasts a long time for me.
This update is fantastic as far as I'm concerned. My phone seems to be more responsive and doesn't lag as much as it did on Nougat. Battery life has been better since the update. Somehow my fingerprint scan to unlock is 1,000 times better. Was always having issue with it before this update. I am also getting slightly better reception. I get slightly better reception in my office area where I previously had little to no reception. I like how some of the items in the pull down notification shade are compacted like your Wi-Fi connection, so they don't take up as much room. Feels like I have a new phone, and I also hope this last major update we will get will help my S7 last for a long time.
I agree, much snappier. I not having to keep putting down apps and restarting to keep it that way either. It makes my s7 a keeper for another year at least. None of the new features really apply to the way I use my device, so no difference there for me.
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Adaptive icons suck. Had to download an icon pack to return all of the Google apps to "normal". Bright white circles in my dark theme....
Other than that, I'll have to mess around more before I see if there's been much change. Haven't really noticed more responsiveness.
one word. HORRIBLE! Battery life has literally been cut by 40-60% with the exact same use as before even with power saver on, weird lag issues when I'm trying to multitask, incoming calls wont take precedence over whatever else is currently on screen, screen wont light up on incoming calls when idle, VZW caller id no longer works on unknown calls, fingerprint unlock no longer works just keeps saying "wipe home key and try again", while talking on the phone if the other person gets another call i now hear it ringing on my side and this is just after 2 days...... worst update ever to what was a flawlessly performing device. Wondering if I need to do a factory reset and start fresh
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one word. HORRIBLE! Battery life has literally been cut by 40-60% with the exact same use as before even with power saver on, weird lag issues when I'm trying to multitask, incoming calls wont take precedence over whatever else is currently on screen, screen wont light up on incoming calls when idle, VZW caller id no longer works on unknown calls, fingerprint unlock no longer works just keeps saying "wipe home key and try again", while talking on the phone if the other person gets another call i now hear it ringing on my side and this is just after 2 days...... worst update ever to what was a flawlessly performing device. Wondering if I need to do a factory reset and start fresh
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A factory reset would be a good place to start, especially after a major update.
I did the full reset with the Odin package and it is very smooth with better battery life, even with battery saver off.
tylerhole said:
A factory reset would be a good place to start, especially after a major update.
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it took 5 tries but I was finally able to get it to wipe/reset, kept giving me a "system update failed, no recovery package found" error. Resetting it seems to have cured the battery, heat and lag issues and is running smoothly again, only issue I still have is a slight delay in waking the phone on incoming calls but I can live with that
zachjf said:
it took 5 tries but I was finally able to get it to wipe/reset, kept giving me a "system update failed, no recovery package found" error. Resetting it seems to have cured the battery, heat and lag issues and is running smoothly again, only issue I still have is a slight delay in waking the phone on incoming calls but I can live with that
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Glad to hear it worked. not sure what you can do about the lag when waking, maybe it'll work itself out in time.
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zachjf said:
it took 5 tries but I was finally able to get it to wipe/reset, kept giving me a "system update failed, no recovery package found" error. Resetting it seems to have cured the battery, heat and lag issues and is running smoothly again, only issue I still have is a slight delay in waking the phone on incoming calls but I can live with that
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Glad it's working now. Were you rooted and/or modified any of the default system apps? That can cause issues as well. I haven't rooted the S7 ever since I first got it over 1.5 years ago because I never had the need to. It's always been pretty good and stable except Nougat. It started out fine, but as time went on it got progressively worse. I didn't have to do a factory reset and so far, Oreo has been a dream come true.
People's mileage will vary depending on their use and any mods they may have done to their phones. Also, remember that not all apps are written to Oreo specs. Whenever there is a major upgrade, certain APIs and other programming techniques that might have worked (or been allowed to happen) under older versions of Android may now be no longer allowed. That can result in apps misbehaving under Oreo and thereby causing the symptoms you see (battery drain, sluggishness, etc). That's why it's always best to see if any apps you have installed have been updated to work correctly with Oreo.
Another option would have been to uninstall apps one by one to see if things improved after they were removed. At that point, you have found your culprit.
I usually do an update of all apps before doing an upgrade because a lot of devs will push out updates to make their apps conform to the next Android version's standards. That has usually allowed me to avoid any issues. Problem is, not all apps are kept up-to-date because the developer has moved on to other things, etc. But, if any apps that haven't been updated in a long time are still on after I upgrade, I usually would remove those first and that usually cured my ills. But, it is rare that I have the problem because I usually don't keep old, stale apps around. I'm a stickler for that for some reason.
In any case, glad you got it working!
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Just curious to see how people are finding the new Oreo for the S7/S7 edge. For me, it's great. Definitely I do see an improvement in performance. Sluggishness is definitely reduced from what I was experiencing in Nougat. Battery life appears to be the same, if not a bit better, but it's hard to tell.
Only issue I've seen is some apps I have are not Oreo ready (such as the previous Power Amp beta, but there is an Alpha out right now that works but is very incomplete in things such as Playlists).
I have noticed that some apps no longer give notifications at all (mainly games with in-app notifications). Not sure if it's because they're not up-to-snuff with Oreo, but the important apps (such as Messenger+) do work just fine in regards to notifications.
Overall, I'm very pleased with this release which in all honesty will probably be the last upgrade for this phone. I still love my S7 and hope it lasts a long time for me.
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I had no problem at all updating. Went real smooth. My battery has better life and the heat/battery/lag/slow boot are so much betterer. The only things I miss is dolby and viper for sound quality being non rooted. I listen to a lot of music and now have to use an old rooted S5 for my music. Thank you for the release. I've only had it installed for a day and if I notice any issues I will post
samg1958 said:
I had no problem at all updating. Went real smooth. My battery has better life and the heat/battery/lag/slow boot are so much betterer. The only things I miss is dolby and viper for sound quality being non rooted. I listen to a lot of music and now have to use an old rooted S5 for my music. Thank you for the release. I've only had it installed for a day and if I notice any issues I will post
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Hey mate, did you know that root for Oreo was released recently?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/root-s7-s7edge-oreo-nougat-t3819616
Bless jkruse, been using his roms / tools since my One+ 1
Awful, but to be fair, the phone has been horrible for several months now. Did the update to Oreo first, but phone was slow. Decided to do a factory data reset and start fresh with Oreo. It was a little bit better, but not great. Then I installed the g930vvrs4crg2 update and it got worse. Last try before smashing this phone is to Odin back to fresh Oreo, then install the latest update. Hopefully that helps.
woodardhsd said:
Awful, but to be fair, the phone has been horrible for several months now. Did the update to Oreo first, but phone was slow. Decided to do a factory data reset and start fresh with Oreo. It was a little bit better, but not great. Then I installed the g930vvrs4crg2 update and it got worse. Last try before smashing this phone is to Odin back to fresh Oreo, then install the latest update. Hopefully that helps.
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The Verizon firmware is awful. Flashing the unlocked firmware (930U) is miles better. Very little bloat (most can be disabled or uninstalled)