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[Q] New Sprint update available to 4.53.651.1 - break root???

Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!

mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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Did it change your H Boot Version?

mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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honestly, why did you do that??i just looked at androidcentral.com and the update doesnt fix anything special..anyway im sure a dev will have a rooted version soon..and just like he said, did it change the hboot?

You should always assume that an OTA update will break root (since it will not have Superuser installed) and that it may NAND Lock your phone (take away your S-OFF). If you want the update just wait around for a short time and a rooted version will appear here.

Well, try using an app that requires root permissions to see if it broke it, like titanium backup.

bpc4209 said:
Did it change your H Boot Version?
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Hboot version is 2.16.0001

It was not clear from your OP if you had already rooted and then took the OTA or you wanted to know if you could still root your phone.
That is the same Hboot as the previous OTA so you may still be able to root with Revolution if you have not already. If you did already root your phone you need to check to see if you still have S-OFF and a recovery that you can use to get CM loaded.

Boot to recovery (hold Vol - and Power button)
What version of HBoot is it?
Cardinal Rule:
Once rooted, never bother accessing the OTA section of your Sense ROM.

Sorry, I have never rooted and am a complete rooting noob.
[my reason is that I've had blown speakers, cracked screens, etc. and have had 5 different replacements from Sprint and don't want to void my warranty unless I can get it back to make it appear as though I've never rooted]
I did find that this Hboot version still seems to be supported with the new root methods. I have one real quick question, and I have a hard time sifting through the posts, threads, forums.
I want to root, flash a new ROM and want to be able to recover my stock Sprint ROM in case I need to send my phone back for the aforementioned issues. If I follow the root procedures and install Amon_RA's backup and backup the current ROM, I should be able to flash that ROM and get back to S-ON? or would I have to go through some procedure to get back S-ON?
Again, my apologies for posting what's been posted probably 1000 times, you can just link me to a thread....I haven't been successful in my searches for a definitive answer. And the "noob guide" sticky on the forum hasn't been updated to the new root methods, so I'm not sure what will brick me and what is usable.

yes, I will never OTA update after rooting, but in case I want to get back to a stock ROM from Sprint for warranty trade in purposes.
follow up noob question to rooting, all the proper radios and account information will be imported into my phone after flashing a new ROM? Or will I have to know specific radios, PRLs or basebands after I root. It's my primary device so I can't afford to be without.

Damn. Just rooted a few days ago under the assumption Sprint has moved on as far as supporting the EVO.... Dig root but I hope this doesn't create a problem when the update is forced on me.

You can always turn off auto update, and you can also hit cancel if the auto updater pops up. You do not Have to ever update your phone if you dont want to

And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.

m20120 said:
And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.
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*noob alert* Those normally appear in the Development forum, correct? Is there a particular title I should be looking for?

No offense, and I really mean that, but you should not root your phone if you are that worried about the consequences. If you aren't willing to accept that Sprint may be able to tell you rooted you phone then deny you warranty repairs just stick with what you have. Once you get past that point then its time to have some rooting fun.
Seriously though, everyone is going to tell you how great root is, but I bet 60% or better never actually do anything with their phone that would have required root to being with!

But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.

mmark27 said:
But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.
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Using older root methods (pre-Gingerbread), yes. But the new root method for GB/Hboot 2.16 installs a new, non-official hboot - 6.16. No one has been able to get the s-on tool to work or downgrade to a different hboot. You can flash an RUU that will take you back to stock, but you cannot gain s-on. Whether or not Sprint cares about the s-off 6.16 hboot, I don't know. Sprint is supposed to service rooted phones as long as the firmware is stock. If it's not, they'll RUU for you. You may have problems or you may not, kind of depends on who you deal with.
The revolutionary root method is still in a beta phase, what I believe they call a "developer preview" or something. Perhaps once it's released officially there will be an easy way to gain s-on.
I think that if you are worried about rooting or don't know why you would be rooting ("it seems cool" is not a legitimate reason) then you shouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion.
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my reason is that I'm sick of Sprint/HTC's flaky software that breaks things like wireless-n, my ability to stream music/contacts with my car stereo over bluetooth, icons constantly disappearing after reboot, Sense rebooting itself, etc. I don't care about its "cool" factor, I want control - its android, right? otherwise I'd just go get an ibone.
Thank you for that update on the 6.16 Hboot change and S-off/on status, its very helpful. Any thoughts on my question of new ROMs will know how to contact the Sprint network with all my information properly, or do I have to do something fancy to that.

I don't know...last month I couldn't root 2 or 3 weeks ago root pops up for GB 2.3.3 I rooted my phone and to tell you the truth I ain't gonna lie I'm still a noob when it comes to rooting...but I think once you try it yo ass ain't never goin back lol cuz I've been on CM7 this whole time and I'm blown away I'm gonna try out vaelpak RC2 tonight when I get home there's just so much you can do...but that's jus my opinion
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet & Watch, evO²·³·³

does anyone know what sense version this update is or is it still the crappy sense 1.0

[Q] SGH-T889v windmobile canada. PLEASE get in here.

Hey guys, sorry for posting this, but im desperate and have read until my eyes are falling out of my skull. I am willing to work with any dev if they need specific work/software ran/info to make this happen. Is there, or is there not clear concise directions on rooting SGH-T889v (wind mobile variant of note 2)?
remember we use AWS for our signal, the modem stuff is all different. this is were my expertise kinda falls short. BUT I AM WILLING TO HELP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. As far as iv'e seen there are no current methods of rooting this phone which is a damn shame considering its horsepower. i saw the all in one toolkit for note 2's, and i simply cannot afford to donate to unlock the functionality of the update that supports wind. So only ONE guy knows how? I believe dev's should get paid and should accept donations, they are the real workers and smart guys. I don't work for free either, However this kinda defeats the purpose of the ecosystem we fought so hard to have.... open and accessible platforms were we the users are in control. By with holding the method, its no longer donating, it's close sourcing ala apple,microsoft, etc. Zero offence to that guy, id just really love to "own" MY phone. Can someone PLEASE help? pass the word? anything? a peep?

gh0stpirate said:
Hey guys, sorry for posting this, but im desperate and have read until my eyes are falling out of my skull. I am willing to work with any dev if they need specific work/software ran/info to make this happen. Is there, or is there not clear concise directions on rooting SGH-T889v (wind mobile variant of note 2)?
remember we use AWS for our signal, the modem stuff is all different. this is were my expertise kinda falls short. BUT I AM WILLING TO HELP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. As far as iv'e seen there are no current methods of rooting this phone which is a damn shame considering its horsepower. i saw the all in one toolkit for note 2's, and i simply cannot afford to donate to unlock the functionality of the update that supports wind. So only ONE guy knows how? I believe dev's should get paid and should accept donations, they are the real workers and smart guys. I don't work for free either, However this kinda defeats the purpose of the ecosystem we fought so hard to have.... open and accessible platforms were we the users are in control. By with holding the method, its no longer donating, it's close sourcing ala apple,microsoft, etc. Zero offence to that guy, id just really love to "own" MY phone. Can someone PLEASE help? pass the word? anything? a peep?
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Who says there is no way....use donated version of toolkit ...its in there
Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 2

If you don't mind the flash counter, you could simply use an Odin flashable (N7100) CWM tar, push the superuser zip of your choosing to /data/media/ (linked to /sdcard/) and install that from CWM.

What I know is that the rooting part is all fine and dandy, sure its a little harder than the rest, but its okay, it not too hard. The problem I keep reading is that the ROMS aren't truly compatible with the device, as data become atrociously slow. A method one, respected fellow, recommended we take was to flash a modem that is "for" our device variant. I say that because people reported bootloops due to it. Also there's a greater chance for our device to lose its IMEI number...not sure if these problems have been resolved. But yeah your problem really isn't rooting its the whole deal afterwards, again I am going by what I've read, I myself do not wish to take the chance of it becoming unusable, so i stay far until I got time to research more and some brilliant helpful mind comes along and solves all problems.

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MCRHAZ said:
What I know is that the rooting part is all fine and dandy, sure its a little harder than the rest, but its okay, it not too hard. The problem I keep reading is that the ROMS aren't truly compatible with the device, as data become atrociously slow. A method one, respected fellow, recommended we take was to flash a modem that is "for" our device variant. I say that because people reported bootloops due to it. Also there's a greater chance for our device to lose its IMEI number...not sure if these problems have been resolved. But yeah your problem really isn't rooting its the whole deal afterwards, again I am going by what I've read, I myself do not wish to take the chance of it becoming unusable, so i stay far until I got time to research more and some brilliant helpful mind comes along and solves all problems.
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i think thats the issue, we just generally need someone more brilliant xD as per the "gentleman" that again, suggested using the donating kit, please re-read my post. whats this business about a flash counter????

darn shame still nothing regretting purchasing this phone completely due to this :/

I used the toolkit to root my N2 (Videotron T889v) without any problems. Just used the T-Mobile option since they are the same phone, just different software. The only difference is the modem from what I've read. Rooting does not change the modem that you currently have right now. If you decide you want to install a custom rom, then you may have to flash your modem back. I am currently using Jedi X rom without any problems and I can honestly say that it's faster than stock. He also provides a link with our modem so we can flash it after the install. All the T-Mobile software has been taken out, so you won't have to deal with any of it. Here are the links for the toolkit and rom.
Toolkit - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
Jedi X rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
There are 2 Jedi Roms available. Jedi X has the multi-window function working but no wifi calling. I believe the other is called Jedi Master and that one has wifi calling but no multi-window. I'm not sure if the wifi calling is a T-Mobile thing but I never installed that rom and can't really give much more info on it. In the end, you can always go back to stock if you're not satisfied. You can find a copy of your stock rom at sammobile. I would suggest making sure it's still available before doing anything.
As for the OP, this is my first time dealing with a flash counter although not my first time rooting. The flash counter is some type of software that Samsung puts in their phones to be able to tell if you have "tampered" with the phone's software. From what I've noticed, when you put your phone in the "download" state and install anything, that triggers the counter to rise. If you send your phone to Samsung for service and the counter is not 0, they will deny service since you would have broken your warranty. There is a program called Triangle Away that will return your counter back to 0, should you need to return the phone to Samsung. Although in my case it would only take it back down to 1 using their instructions. I finally got it back to 0 by adding an extra step. From what I've read, I think it depends on the kernel that you're using. Here is the link for the program.
Triangle Away - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
I'm not an expert on any of this, just trying to help. I can say that I've rooted, unrooted and reset my flash counter back to 0 along with my stock Videotron rom.
Good luck

JDLS said:
I used the toolkit to root my N2 (Videotron T889v) without any problems. Just used the T-Mobile option since they are the same phone, just different software. The only difference is the modem from what I've read. Rooting does not change the modem that you currently have right now. If you decide you want to install a custom rom, then you may have to flash your modem back. I am currently using Jedi X rom without any problems and I can honestly say that it's faster than stock. He also provides a link with our modem so we can flash it after the install. All the T-Mobile software has been taken out, so you won't have to deal with any of it. Here are the links for the toolkit and rom.
Toolkit - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
Jedi X rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
There are 2 Jedi Roms available. Jedi X has the multi-window function working but no wifi calling. I believe the other is called Jedi Master and that one has wifi calling but no multi-window. I'm not sure if the wifi calling is a T-Mobile thing but I never installed that rom and can't really give much more info on it. In the end, you can always go back to stock if you're not satisfied. You can find a copy of your stock rom at sammobile. I would suggest making sure it's still available before doing anything.
As for the OP, this is my first time dealing with a flash counter although not my first time rooting. The flash counter is some type of software that Samsung puts in their phones to be able to tell if you have "tampered" with the phone's software. From what I've noticed, when you put your phone in the "download" state and install anything, that triggers the counter to rise. If you send your phone to Samsung for service and the counter is not 0, they will deny service since you would have broken your warranty. There is a program called Triangle Away that will return your counter back to 0, should you need to return the phone to Samsung. Although in my case it would only take it back down to 1 using their instructions. I finally got it back to 0 by adding an extra step. From what I've read, I think it depends on the kernel that you're using. Here is the link for the program.
Triangle Away - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
I'm not an expert on any of this, just trying to help. I can say that I've rooted, unrooted and reset my flash counter back to 0 along with my stock Videotron rom.
Good luck
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so you flashed the modem that ptmr3 provided for the t889v along with his jedi x rom and all good is good? no signal issues ? you get hspa+?

First Post:
I'm on Wind Mobile T889v Note 2. And I cant wait for this phone to get rooted so that I can run debian or whatever have you full blow linux desktop experience on my phone.
The current limited version of android on its own is too limiting for the processing beast that this phone is.

MCRHAZ said:
so you flashed the modem that ptmr3 provided for the t889v along with his jedi x rom and all good is good? no signal issues ? you get hspa+?
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That is correct. Never had any issues whatsoever. Always get full signal strength, no disconnections and overall great service. As long as you flash after the rom, you will get your modem back. To be honest, the rom itself has never changed my modem, I always just flash it in case it's just reporting it as an error. In the directions it states that it will change it but I always check it and it has remained the same every time.

you mean by letting bootup and set up first then go back to twrp or cwm? and then flash the modem...my exams are done hoping to do it by tomorrow.

MCRHAZ said:
you mean by letting bootup and set up first then go back to twrp or cwm? and then flash the modem...my exams are done hoping to do it by tomorrow.
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After you flash the rom (if you're flashing Jedi) you need to let it sit for 10 minutes on the first boot up (after the android logo, just use the reboot option after the 10 minutes). Once you've booted up and finished your setup, just go back into cwm or twrp and flash the modem.

how did you reset the flash counter with triangle away? it doesnt seem to work on my 889V
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[Q] warranty root

I saw a similar question on this but is my warranty really voided if I rooted my sprint galaxy s3 and I could get it back by going back to 100% stock? I rooted it shortly after getting this phone. This morning I went into download mode and saw the flash count 1 and 2 lines say custom and go into about device and it says modified.

There are ways to reset those. Search qbking77 on youtube.
As far as warranty, no they will charge you your deductible for a new/refurb phone. But a Sprint store can refuse to honor their TEP program and work on a rooted device.
And that's because after a tech fixes w/e is wrong, you walk out the door and it bricks because you flash something your not suppose to. They don't want the blame to fall back on them.
Sent from a planet far far away.

Kenny301 said:
I saw a similar question on this but is my warranty really voided if I rooted my sprint galaxy s3 and I could get it back by going back to 100% stock? I rooted it shortly after getting this phone. This morning I went into download mode and saw the flash count 1 and 2 lines say custom and go into about device and it says modified.
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You can always go back to stock and triangle-away the flash counter. I'd recommend using the Toolkit by mskip. It has the option of returning to stock unrooted and getting rid of the flash count.
As far as your primary question about warranty. Yes, your warranty is voided. That being said, I've never really heard of it being an issue. Most Sprint Tech's are pretty chill when it comes to this. You can, of course, get an uptight one who will complain and even refuse your return. But yeah, I haven't really heard of that happening too often.

Usually all carriers would check the flash tick and they'd tell you that you can not have a warranty for your phone.
But it's other times that you'd be really lucky to obtain one for your device if they won't look into it ( And they will )
and they'll look at the status of the device as well. If you want to fully go back to stock TW and get your warranty
it'd be advised to flash this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904099
Thank billar412 for that.
Take note this is the MB1 update, if you how ever don't like MB1 there should be an LJ7 in the forums somewhere
or just look up qbking77 guide to unroot for stock TW and he should also have a flash counter reset under his threads as well.

Thanks for the quick replies. So that quick return to stock one would bring back the warranty then? That's the one I got my eye on plus I'm craving some custom rom goodness.

Kenny301 said:
Thanks for the quick replies. So that quick return to stock one would bring back the warranty then? That's the one I got my eye on plus I'm craving some custom rom goodness.
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I don't want to be the legalistic guy, but I wanted to point out something.
By flashing a custom recovery (i.e. gaining root access), you are voiding your claim on the warranty. There's no getting around that. But, by returning to stock and resetting your flash counter, you are making it so that no one can tell you voided the warranty.
I know it's a slight difference from what you said and many people may say I'm nit-picking, but I want people to take responsibility for flashing ROMs. It bugs me when people don't read everything, brick their phones, then try to get the carrier to pay for their mistakes (case in point).

Hey -
my question is in a similar vein.
I am "stock" but rooted and with CWM recovery.
I'm getting bugged to death with the OTA update notifications, and of course it won't run under CWM...
Best method to get it to install seems to be to restore factory recovery?
Or do you guys have other suggestions?

Bigjohn_S said:
Hey -
my question is in a similar vein.
I am "stock" but rooted and with CWM recovery.
I'm getting bugged to death with the OTA update notifications, and of course it won't run under CWM...
Best method to get it to install seems to be to restore factory recovery?
Or do you guys have other suggestions?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32152586
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You never mentioned where you got your phone. I buy mine at Best Buy, and purchase their insurance. It covers EVERYTHING except loss. No deductible. No limit on number of claims. I was flashing my GS3 back and forth between a few roms, and somehow messed it up. It was stuck in a boot loop. They couldn't get it to boot either. They sent it out, and I had a new one 4 days later. Only new because they had just come out, and didn't have refurbs yet
**Feed on your nothing,
You'll never live up to me**

Another victum of the KNOX self-destruct switch

This is not my first post (though I read far more than I write). I forgot my previous login information (on a note on my bricked GS3)
I've been flashing roms for a couple of years and previously dug out of any problems I encountered.
This is the scenario.
Was on a custom MD4 rom saw some features on my Wife's non rooted MK3 update.
I reverted to stock and let MK3 update happen.
I then applied CF Auto Root and it seemed to work. (I had no idea about KNOX when I did all of this.)
When I attempted to run Adaway I started getting these messages refusing Superuser privileges, etc. I now discovered this KNOX program.
I didn't like where this seemed to be headed so I decided to unroot using my old LEN version .TAR file. Odin came up with a FAILED! comment.
Now I get the yellow triangle and the Waranty void 0/1. I can occasionally get to download mode.
The only hope I have after reading MANY MANY threads on the subject is that I may still be able to Odin a current .TAR file as it seems KNOX will not let me go backward but may let me go current or forward.
Can anyone offer any hope on that idea?
Thanks in advance,
Carl in Texas

Go into download mode and try this : http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SPH-L710&pcode=SPR#firmware
And your absolutely right on the fact that there is no going back once you are on official MK3 4.3
GS4 Stock Rooted MJA 4.3,Philz Touch CWM,HotSpot Mod,Transparent Weather Widget...

BIGSAMDA1ST THANK YOU!.....THANK YOU!.....THANK YOU!
(I was TexasCarl - I now recovered my old login)
I have my GS3 back. The MK3 .tar file worked. Unfortunately I bought a GS4 today, and guess what; it already has KNOX on it. I am a bit afraid to mess with the new GS4. But there is so much junk on it. What can we do???
By the way, I spoke to a Samsung rep at the store while I was buying the new phone. He was rather surprised to hear about the Knox lock out problem. He agreed that many customers buy Android because they can customize them. Hopefully Samsung will hear the cry and give those of us who don't want their security package an option.
Anyway thanks again,
Carl in Texas

Show-Me said:
BIGSAMDA1ST THANK YOU!.....THANK YOU!.....THANK YOU!
(I was TexasCarl - I now recovered my old login)
I have my GS3 back. The MK3 .tar file worked. Unfortunately I bought a GS4 today, and guess what; it already has KNOX on it. I am a bit afraid to mess with the new GS4. But there is so much junk on it. What can we do???
By the way, I spoke to a Samsung rep at the store while I was buying the new phone. He was rather surprised to hear about the Knox lock out problem. He agreed that many customers buy Android because they can customize them. Hopefully Samsung will hear the cry and give those of us who don't want their security package an option.
Anyway thanks again,
Carl in Texas
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Since you now are part of the S4 family I pm'd you a link just incase you get that urge to root...
GS4 Stock Rooted MJA 4.3,Philz Touch CWM,HotSpot Mod,Transparent Weather Widget...

May need to try this out. It works fine Texas??
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SwellVermin said:
May need to try this out. It works fine Texas??
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Yes. Download the .tar file. Unzip. Go to download mode. Odin like normal. As far as I can tell it is the same system as after the OTA MK3 update. It seems to have also saved previous data. I don't have the phone with me now so I can't check everything. But it did load to my previous lock screen and wallpaper and found wifi.
But at least I now have a usable backup device and more than likely KNOX too will fall to the developers.

Congratulations!This device has root access!Device: SM-N910A Android Version: 4.4.4??

I bought a phone off of ebat and found out its rooted.
I'm running 4.4.4. And I want to either go back to stock or update to 5.1.1. Or if 6.0.0. Is better. I have root checker pro. SuperSU PseudoPro v2.46. FlashFire Pro v0.73. I've tried everything I can to no avail. I can't afford a new phone. Please help me. I got screen shots of all my info. Just don't know how to post them

Dude feel free to tell me I'm retarded but that's ****in big news right? It's my understanding that the att model is unfortunately impossible to root because of the bootloader.. If I'm wrong and someone figured it out I MUST KNOW lol

Well huh...
I thought it was common knowledge.. I rooted mine on 5.1.1 with Kingo-Root. I know that's not the super cool XDA thing to say.. but .. it's a fact. Screen shot attached of "Samung Phone Info" app..
And yes, I'll lose it on an OS upgrade .. or whatever, but .. I am happy enough where it's at.
JK

knoxster said:
I thought it was common knowledge.. I rooted mine on 5.1.1 with Kingo-Root. I know that's not the super cool XDA thing to say.. but .. it's a fact. Screen shot attached of "Samung Phone Info" app..
And yes, I'll lose it on an OS upgrade .. or whatever, but .. I am happy enough where it's at.
JK
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one further note that I'm not sure bears relevance, I did flash the ENGINEERING Modem for the 910A before attempting this marvelous trick.
You can find that ENG Boot modem that I flashed before i started the process. with a few minutes on Google. I flashed back the standard CP file for my build after wards..

Hmmmm. I remember my AT&T Note 3 had to be on 5.1.1 before it could be rooted. And it was rooted using towel root.
Does your note 4 have a red light on the back next to your flash, that is capable of checking your blood oxygen levels? And is your home button capable of reading your finger print? If not than I'm afraid your the victim of being sold a fake most likely a Note 3 with software flashed over to appear like Note 4 and say note 4 seriel/info. It does happen. Just wondering if there's a pattern between the methods of 5.1.1, or if it's coincidence or Foul Play. Any more info on your process would be greatly appreciated.

this thread is b.s

Jerry you are only partly right.
I did have my AT&T Note 4 rooted. And that root stuck around exactly one boot cycle. After the phone rebooted, it was gone.
That's why I saved that screen shot above. That and the idea that - not that anyone still gives a damn - but it can be done temporarily, then perhaps that cracks open the door on something more permanent.
As a side note, I was flashing COMBINATION files and ENG BOOT MODEMS and god knows what else and now under download mode, my files are no longer "OFFICIAL" ... they're "CUSTOM" and yet my Warranty bit is still set to 0x0.
Jerry - I'm not a dev and I'm not smart enough to know if any of this adds up to a hill of beans. But maybe before declaring something bull **** -- slow down and look at the info and see if there's a there there?
Attached is a rooted ENG BOOT.img that might provide something I dunno.. It's for 6.01 Marshmallow.
Also attached, the details from the upper LEFT on my device while in download mode. Of all the AT&T Note 4 and Note Edge devices I have had pass thru my hands, this is the first AT&T one that now shows CUSTOM under current binary?
Thanks,
JK

knoxster said:
Jerry you are only partly right.
I did have my AT&T Note 4 rooted. And that root stuck around exactly one boot cycle. After the phone rebooted, it was gone.
That's why I saved that screen shot above. That and the idea that - not that anyone still gives a damn - but it can be done temporarily, then perhaps that cracks open the door on something more permanent.
As a side note, I was flashing COMBINATION files and ENG BOOT MODEMS and god knows what else and now under download mode, my files are no longer "OFFICIAL" ... they're "CUSTOM" and yet my Warranty bit is still set to 0x0.
Jerry - I'm not a dev and I'm not smart enough to know if any of this adds up to a hill of beans. But maybe before declaring something bull **** -- slow down and look at the info and see if there's a there there?
Attached is a rooted ENG BOOT.img that might provide something I dunno.. It's for 6.01 Marshmallow.
Also attached, the details from the upper LEFT on my device while in download mode. Of all the AT&T Note 4 and Note Edge devices I have had pass thru my hands, this is the first AT&T one that now shows CUSTOM under current binary?
Thanks,
JK
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Kingo root does not give u permanent root.
However if you were able to get Kingo root, you could sideload with adb Magisk, download to your PC a version of your rom, ( you need the exact one ) extract the boot.img, copy it or side load it to your phone. And patch the boot image with magisk directly. Then have magisk install the patched rom.