Hi,
I know that in order for the original kindle fire to recognize OTG. devices, the following must be available:-
1. Rooted kindle fire.
2. ROM with Hashcode's 3.0 kernel .
3. microUSB. to USB. OTG. cable.
4. Powered USB. HUB.
Since the kindle doesn't give out enough power to drive flash drives/keyboards etc., we resort to the powered HUB. Well, recently I stumbled upon a "Micro USB Male To USB Female Host OTG Cable + Micro USB Adapter Y Splitter". I was hoping if we could connect the Kindle's charger to the microUSB port in the above mentioned cable and use the provided Female USB. OTG. cable to connect a peripheral like flash drive..
My doubt is this. Will connecting the kindle's charger be enough to drive a flash drive/keyboard? Or will it simply just charge the kindle and not give power to the OTG. device?
A link to the cable cannot be given as i'm a new user..An ebay search by copy pasting the name of the cable is enough.
I run a kindle fire with gedeROM ICS. flashed.
SORRY IF THIS IS A NOOB/STUPID QUESTION! Thanks!
madpest said:
Hi,
I know that in order for the original kindle fire to recognize OTG. devices, the following must be available:-
1. Rooted kindle fire.
2. ROM with Hashcode's 3.0 kernel .
3. microUSB. to USB. OTG. cable.
4. Powered USB. HUB.
Since the kindle doesn't give out enough power to drive flash drives/keyboards etc., we resort to the powered HUB. Well, recently I stumbled upon a "Micro USB Male To USB Female Host OTG Cable + Micro USB Adapter Y Splitter". I was hoping if we could connect the Kindle's charger to the microUSB port in the above mentioned cable and use the provided Female USB. OTG. cable to connect a peripheral like flash drive..
My doubt is this. Will connecting the kindle's charger be enough to drive a flash drive/keyboard? Or will it simply just charge the kindle and not give power to the OTG. device?
A link to the cable cannot be given as i'm a new user..An ebay search by copy pasting the name of the cable is enough.
I run a kindle fire with gedeROM ICS. flashed.
SORRY IF THIS IS A NOOB/STUPID QUESTION! Thanks!
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I tried it and it works. I made my own y cable using solder and duct tape.
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Vlasp said:
I tried it and it works. I made my own y cable using solder and duct tape.
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So, just to clarify, if the kindle is connected with the original amazon charger, it can detect otg. devices connected to it, yea? (assuming we have 3.0 kernel). Ill try to post pics of the cable asap..It may help people.
If this works a 100%, then this is really an even cheaper alternative to buying a powered usb. hub..Just buy the $6 cable and you're ready to run otg devices! Pretty neat.
Thanks for the reply!
I got it to work in the morning but now it doesn't want to work and freezes/reboots when I plug it in and the other end into a computer which outputs 12 v. dang it. here is a pic of it:
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I got it to work in the morning but now it doesn't want to work and freezes/reboots when I plug it in and the other end into a computer which outputs 12 v. dang it. here is a pic of it:
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Why would you wanna plug it in when you're trying to connect it to a computer? Cant u just directly connect the K.F to the computer using a USB. to microUSB. cable? I thought that you needed the extra power from the wall charger only to drive peripherals connected TO the kindle..
madpest said:
Why would you wanna plug it in when you're trying to connect it to a computer? Cant u just directly connect the K.F to the computer using a USB. to microUSB. cable? I thought that you needed the extra power from the wall charger only to drive peripherals connected TO the kindle..
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No I'm using the computer as a way of powering the USB hub. I can connect the USB to the wall as well though.
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No I'm using the computer as a way of powering the USB hub. I can connect the USB to the wall as well though.
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Ok, although I don't think using a hub is neccessary if you are planning to connect only one device at a time. After all, this method eliminates the need to buy a powered usb hub...
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Has anyone been able to find a USB-OTG adapter for the Galaxy Nexus similar to the USB adapter for the Galaxy Tab (pictured below), i.e. one that's just a compact adapter without a cable between the two sides?
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Check amazon... they have otg cables on there without the cable. Its kinda bulky though.
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Can't that OTG for the Tab work?
Shamrock13 said:
Can't that OTG for the Tab work?
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No! The galaxy tab does not use micro USB, it has a proprietary cable system somewhat like apple ipod
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http://www.amazon.com/NOKIA-CA-157-Adapter-cable-Nokia/dp/B0050LO0QE
i just use the one that came with the nokia n8, works just fine
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http://www.amazon.com/NOKIA-CA-157-Adapter-cable-Nokia/dp/B0050LO0QE
i just use the one that came with the nokia n8, works just fine
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You use that one with the Galaxy Nexus?
Looks like it has a MicroUSB-A plug, which shouldn't fit into the Galaxy Nexus's MicroUSB-B port.
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You use that one with the Galaxy Nexus?
Looks like it has a MicroUSB-A plug, which shouldn't fit into the Galaxy Nexus's MicroUSB-B port.
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correct, just trim the corners, 2 sec job
I bought a 2$ cable from dealextreme for the Galaxy S2. You can find them at the same price on ebay... they work fine, tested with a USB pen and a SIXAXIS.
Now waiting for franco to update his kernel with the NTFS module to try out my external HDD.
Alpha Class said:
correct, just trim the corners, 2 sec job
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Trim the corners on the cable? Or the GN?
Chirality said:
Trim the corners on the cable? Or the GN?
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on the cable itself
mind you i did this simply because i had the cable lying around and it wasn't being used
its only a suggestion for the cheap among us , i suppose if i had to buy a cable, i'd just plop down for the micro b
is there a usb otg cable capable of allowing charge and being the host at the same time? or is it even possible? i'm reading mixed results on this. that it is possible and it's not. i want to scream.
pukemon said:
is there a usb otg cable capable of allowing charge and being the host at the same time? or is it even possible? i'm reading mixed results on this. that it is possible and it's not. i want to scream.
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What you are looking for is a USB Accessory Charger Adapter, which exists in the USB spec but does not seem to actually exist in physical form.
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What you are looking for is a USB Accessory Charger Adapter, which exists in the USB spec but does not seem to actually exist in physical form.
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so what you are implying is a usb accessory that is kind of passive but allows charging, and if you boink it with another micro usb accessory, usb otg cable here, that it will allow the necessary usb spec for otg also? hmmm...
pukemon said:
so what you are implying is a usb accessory that is kind of passive but allows charging, and if you boink it with another micro usb accessory, usb otg cable here, that it will allow the necessary usb spec for otg also? hmmm...
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No, what it is is a special USB OTG adapter that has three connectors, a micro USB plug to plug into the host device, a USB socket to plug in the peripheral device, and a micro USB socket to plug in a charger. It also supplies a special resistance on the ID pin to the host device to let it know that a charger is connected so the host does not supply a voltage on the VBUS. Without this special adapter with the ID pin resistance, the host will supply a voltage to power the peripheral which will not work with the charger on the VBUS. Thus this special adapter is needed. This is defined in the USB OTG and Battery Charging specs, but so far it doesn't seem like anyone is manufacturing such a thing.
Chirality said:
Has anyone been able to find a USB-OTG adapter for the Galaxy Nexus similar to the USB adapter for the Galaxy Tab (pictured below), i.e. one that's just a compact adapter without a cable between the two sides?
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Here http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774
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No, what it is is a special USB OTG adapter that has three connectors, a micro USB plug to plug into the host device, a USB socket to plug in the peripheral device, and a micro USB socket to plug in a charger. It also supplies a special resistance on the ID pin to the host device to let it know that a charger is connected so the host does not supply a voltage on the VBUS. Without this special adapter with the ID pin resistance, the host will supply a voltage to power the peripheral which will not work with the charger on the VBUS. Thus this special adapter is needed. This is defined in the USB OTG and Battery Charging specs, but so far it doesn't seem like anyone is manufacturing such a thing.
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Would anybody be able to help make a cable to allow this functionality? I have Muscular Dystrophy and want to use my HTC Evo 3D with the specialized HID USB mouse emulator that's integrated into my wheelchair. This is how I control my desktop PC.
Because I also use the mouse emulator and voice recognition the battery life of the phone isn't that great. I would like to power the phone with a cigarette lighter adapter plugged into my chair.
Thanks!
IT doesnt work on HTC phones. I tried a gew hours ago, since nkbody knew i was forced to buy myself a usb otg cable. Plugged it in the Sensation, and a logitech G35 on the other side. no result, tried with regular usb stick still no result
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What file system are you guys using?
I can't seem to get the phone to read exFAT.
Also can't find ext4 drivers for Windows
FAT32 is not an option since the movies I want to watch are over 4gb.
derkgates said:
Would anybody be able to help make a cable to allow this functionality? I have Muscular Dystrophy and want to use my HTC Evo 3D with the specialized HID USB mouse emulator that's integrated into my wheelchair. This is how I control my desktop PC.
Because I also use the mouse emulator and voice recognition the battery life of the phone isn't that great. I would like to power the phone with a cigarette lighter adapter plugged into my chair.
Thanks!
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I'll try to do some research and tests and try to make something to help you and other people with similar needs!
I can mount ntfs with "USB Host Controller v0.44" app and 3.0.8-franco.Kernel R140 kernel.
USB On The Go is a feature that makes me ignore the non availability of sd card port.
I use it for playing videos that may fill my device internal memory
I wanted to know can it be used for any other purpose
I have seen videos explaining the connection of a camera in SGS 2 via OTG
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i use OTG usb for:
web browers = hdmi to TV + hub +mouse +keyboard
very pleasant experience !
media player ->power hub +200gb (175 available )external hard drive
is seems to not play DTS sound why?
but is perfect
I too use OTG for mouse and keyboard as well, recently I used it to shoot video and dump the videos to a USB flash drive so that I could continue shooting.
Thanks.
made a dual partitions in usb flashdisk, put some hd movie/video. watch it from my tv.
I use it to use my USB mouse and keyboard, read my 32gb sd card... My 1tb HDD, link to my tv / monitor / other monitors, good as a media box and it tries to make the toast!!
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Oh and USB game controller
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I too have a mouse and keyboard from Belkin with common adapter working
1 TB HDD is to be checked I have one from western digital and another from Toshiba now I am away from home will check those when I reach<3
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dgattenb said:
I use it to use my USB mouse and keyboard, read my 32gb sd card... My 1tb HDD, link to my tv / monitor / other monitors, good as a media box and it tries to make the toast!!
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Need details on your 1TB HDD
When I connect my 1TB WD power error occurs
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lal pradeep said:
Need details on your 1TB HDD
When I connect my 1TB WD power error occurs
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u need to plug it to another power too with two male connector (eg, one to pc and one to ur USB-otg cable).
or, u can try usb otg cable that has power input in it (micro usb), i havent tried this though
m1st3r1 said:
u need to plug it to another power too with two male connector (eg, one to pc and one to ur USB-otg cable).
or, u can try usb otg cable that has power input in it (micro usb), i havent tried this though
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Can you explain with an image or link by which I can figure it
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lal pradeep said:
Can you explain with an image or link by which I can figure it
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i havent try it though. my 16 gB UFD works fine w/o external power.
Ok, So i'm using my Nokia N8 USB OTG cable that came with my Nokia, it short and works perfectly with my Xperia S. It reads all the USB Memory cards i've connect as well as my Logitech Wireless Mouse. I've also connected it to my Belkin Mini 4 Port powered hub and then connected my WD 500GB HDD. Just to plug in the HDD obviously i'm going to be short on power. What I want is a Y type cable, that will do USB OTG and Charge my phone and also provide additional power to my HDD to power it. Anyone seen something like this ?
u already have a powered hub. try an input power (eg charger) to ur hub.
if u're using Y cable u dont need the hub, just plug the one male (the one with two cable) to the USB otg cable then the other one male (the single cable, named the power cable) to PC or a charger.
m1st3r1 said:
u already have a powered hub. try an input power (eg charger) to ur hub.
if u're using Y cable u dont need the hub, just plug the one male (the one with two cable) to the USB otg cable then the other one male (the single cable, named the power cable) to PC or a charger.
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I have the power adapter for the hub and use it but i'm wanting to cut down on crap to carry around. If i could just carry one USB charger , my HDD , a Y adapter and my phone. Still looking for the Y adapter that will allow hosting and charging / powering of both devices
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i havent try it though. my 16 gB UFD works fine w/o external power.
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I didn't mean it
I was asking you the image of a powdered hub I too have my 16 GB flash working very fine via OTG cable
I doubt that "will flash drives work in NTFS format?"
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I think a live dock can solve the problem
Why no dock for xperia s but for xperia p!! Sony should be working on this!!
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I also have power problems, they come from the device that we connect like a usb keyboard pen drive etc or could be the OTG cable?
I bought a micro SD usb adapter to use my old 16gb card and now i get power problem :s
Do you guys think USB on the go will work with a HSPA USB modem from Vodafone?
Will I be able to get network??
EDIT: Will any usb on the go cabels work?
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pel.89 said:
I also have power problems, they come from the device that we connect like a usb keyboard pen drive etc or could be the OTG cable?
I bought a micro SD usb adapter to use my old 16gb card and now i get power problem :s
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Card readers doesn't work without a powered usb hub
Have to buy one:-(
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Sikiduck said:
Do you guys think USB on the go will work with a HSPA USB modem from Vodafone?
Will I be able to get network??
EDIT: Will any usb on the go cabels work?
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This thing has to work, I will check that for you
If you could do it please report
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I don't want to shell out for the smart dock and I think this 4 port usb hub(non powered) would work. I would plug the USB OTG cable in to my note 2, then plug in the USB hub, followed by my Logitech K400 in to one of the four port, then a MHL adapter to one of the four USB port, run power to the MHL adapter, then an HDMI cable from MHL adapter to the TV when ever I want to surf the internet using my phone using wireless keyboard/mouse and displaying it on the tv. Will that work or will I need a powered USB hub?
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sorry to break it to you but the mhl adapter is micro usb
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reinaldistic said:
sorry to break it to you but the mhl adapter is micro usb
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How did I miss that! So if I get a female micro to male USB will it work? I mean will the HDMI signal still pass thru the hub out to the MHL adapter. Let me go watch the note 2 connectivity where that guy hooks half a million thing thru his powered usb hub.
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How did I miss that! So if I get a female micro to male USB will it work? I mean will the HDMI signal still pass thru the hub out to the MHL adapter. Let me go watch the note 2 connectivity where that guy hooks half a million thing thru his powered usb hub.
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no, the mhl adapter for our phones is the reason we have 11 pins in the micro usb port. the mhl adapter uses the 6 extra pins and thus the phone doesn't transmit hdmi signal through the 5 normal pins... also the mhl adapter only works if your phone is being charged through the extra usb port on the adapter itself.
I know you next question will be well then can I connect the usb otg adapter to the port on the mhl adapter. well for that you would pretty much have to build yourself some converters. you would need to supply power to the phone while at the same time supply power to the usb items you are trying to use. this presents a peculiar problem usb otg relies on shorting the grounding wire. if you make it shorted no charger will allow current through, if you don't short it the phone won't recognize that it had to become a usb host controller. you might get away with using some diodes to make the phone think it's shorted while the chargers think it's not, but I don't know enough about the whole process to know if the software on the phone would utilize that correctly... bottom line is I don't think it's possible.
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I was hoping I could use the logitech 400K while using the MHL adapter to TV. I guess I need to spring for a bluetooth keyboard or get the smart dock for 50% off while it is still on sale.
you could however take apart a dock and see how it's built (the Samsung dock allows for both usb and hdmi)
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Been watching that dock and they never seem to have it in stock. My coupon expires 12/13/2012.
Just curious if anyone knows how to do this. I have a usb to hdmi adapter which I used for hdmi out on the stock Rom, but I have not figured out a kernel/Rom or program which lets me use it on aosp. Any help would be appreciated.
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I have mhl cable and it works with vanilla rootbox.
Works for me as well but I'm only getting 720p output for games and apps, haven't tried vids yet, but can anyone confirm that they get 1080p while running an app or game?
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I have mhl cable and it works with vanilla rootbox.
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I'm using rootbox myself and the cable I use isn't working. Is the cable you're using one continuous cable, or is it an adapter which u plug a usb cable into one end which changes the other end to hdmi?
Its a straight through with battery supply. Got it off amazon for $13
Mine has a slot for a usb charger. Fuzzy does your cable output 1080p for games and apps?
I will get back to you on that after I put my son to bed
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K. so I checked it out and it's only 720
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Its a straight through with battery supply. Got it off amazon for $13
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That sounds like the same cable I'm using. But mine doesn't output anything. Is there a setting on the ROM somewhere I'm missing to make it display?
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I didn't do anything except plug it in and checked out movie I have on phone and I DL HD game from playstore and everything worked. If you go to amazon and search for mhl cable. the one I have has spot to plug in charge to mhl cable and like I said b4 was like $13.
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I didn't do anything except plug it in and checked out movie I have on phone and I DL HD game from playstore and everything worked. If you go to amazon and search for mhl cable. the one I have has spot to plug in charge to mhl cable and like I said b4 was like $13.
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Is this the same cable you're using? I got this one from Amazon myself in November when I bought my phone.
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Nope.it has the plug like the charger that goes to a y one part of cable is HDMI and other cable is to plug phone charger into..go to amazon type in mhl cable its called cable matters gold plated USB to HDMI mhl cable for Samsung and few others. Some reason I'm having hard time copying and pasting link
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Nope.it has the plug like the charger that goes to a y one part of cable is HDMI and other cable is to plug phone charger into..go to amazon type in mhl cable its called cable matters gold plated USB to HDMI mhl cable for Samsung and few others. Some reason I'm having hard time copying and pasting link
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Never mind, I got mine to work. Seems it needs the power supply attached for it to work on aosp. But I remember using it without the power supply on stock, oh well as long as it works I'm cool.
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Glad you figured it out
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Nope.it has the plug like the charger that goes to a y one part of cable is HDMI and other cable is to plug phone charger into..go to amazon type in mhl cable its called cable matters gold plated USB to HDMI mhl cable for Samsung and few others. Some reason I'm having hard time copying and pasting link
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I found it...thanks! Just search ASIN B006V7F380 on amazon
Hi,
Has anyone got an external hdd working on there gpads?
I have a 1tb WD passport, connected to my nexus 5 via the OTG cable it works fine. Just refuses to work on the gpad. usb sticks (tried up to a 32gig) work fine.
My gpad is stock
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Hi,
Has anyone got an external hdd working on there gpads?
I have a 1tb WD passport, connected to my nexus 5 via the OTG cable it works fine. Just refuses to work on the gpad. usb sticks (tried up to a 32gig) work fine.
My gpad is stock
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Also happens to me, does not work with my external drive 320gb.
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I'm waiting on my powered OTG to turn up and test (another member in a different forum had suggested they had an external working with the cable). Otherwise i might look at getting something different as i am going away for a while and want to use an external to store my movies.
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I'm waiting on my powered OTG to turn up and test (another member in a different forum had suggested they had an external working with the cable). Otherwise i might look at getting something different as i am going away for a while and want to use an external to store my movies.
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I also have an powered OTG cable, but did not help.
I think that the cause is lack of voltage. With a pen or sd card with adapter, works without problems. Even my camera gives to connect. Always with the OTG cable, of course!
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That's a shame. Might need to pick myself up a cheap laptop (maybe one of these lenovo flexs') or a wireless hard drive, now in theory the wireless hard drives are powered so, if it is a voltage problem it might work without activating the wireless function.
Just weird that it would work fine on my nexus 5 but not on the tablet. No solid hdd light when plugged into the gpad.
What file system are you using on the HDD?
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What file system are you using on the HDD?
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In my case, the formats are FAT32, I know that android does not support NTFS.
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I'm waiting on my powered OTG to turn up and test (another member in a different forum had suggested they had an external working with the cable). Otherwise i might look at getting something different as i am going away for a while and want to use an external to store my movies.
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As I said over at the OC forum mine worked ok....
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as long as it is formatted to FAT32 (using stock ROM). Also using the powered OTG cable.
Toshiba 1TB e store USB 3 2.5" drive shown above.
Ah cool, i'll hold on a few more days for this powered one to turn up.
I think it would work if you used USB 2.0 A Male plug to 2 dual USB A Female jack Y splitter Hub adapter Cable, the W male in charger, the two one on the hdd and the other in the Pad, i will try it very soon as soon as i get back to my house...
i also going to use usb extension cable coz the charger is way too long...
Have you tried it with a powered USB hub? Seems like that would address the power issue.
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Hi,
Got my cable today (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B5T4A60/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Works a treat. The cable doesn't charge the tablet unfortunately whilst its reading from the drive, but at least i can see my hdd now.
I also tested it using an anker Astro3 and it works fine.
Good result, enjoy your movies .
Sent from my LG-V500 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Gents.
Use this program and you are able to go for 1TB disks and NTFS support on the fly.
Could play MKV movies >4Gig and scroll pictures.
Everything works fine for me.
G Pad 8.3 Korea 5.02 Rom, root
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount