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Ok I have question... since rumors have it that the Touch Pro 2 will be coming to the states and to T-mobile, I'm assuming that it will have T-mobiles 3G band? Hopefully? If so, would that mean the unlocked versions of the Touch Pro 2 have the T-Mobiles 3G band as well or no? This is in the same boat as the G1 as I don't really need the data plan on the G1 but maybe occassional use with T-Zones. I was hoping that the Touch Pro 2 would be able to use T-Mobiles 3G and not be forced to have its own data plan.
Now lets say they make you have the data, could you flash the firmware and radio and that do anything? I heard that they can trace the phone via IMEI so if your using that T-Mobile branded phone, even though you have a different firmware and what not they would still be able to trace the phone via IMEI correct?
Ideally it'd be nice to have the Touch Pro 2 on T-mobile using 3G occasionally with T-zones but one can only hope...
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Ok I have question... since rumors have it that the Touch Pro 2 will be coming to the states and to T-mobile, I'm assuming that it will have T-mobiles 3G band? Hopefully? If so, would that mean the unlocked versions of the Touch Pro 2 have the T-Mobiles 3G band as well or no? This is in the same boat as the G1 as I don't really need the data plan on the G1 but maybe occassional use with T-Zones. I was hoping that the Touch Pro 2 would be able to use T-Mobiles 3G and not be forced to have its own data plan.
Now lets say they make you have the data, could you flash the firmware and radio and that do anything? I heard that they can trace the phone via IMEI so if your using that T-Mobile branded phone, even though you have a different firmware and what not they would still be able to trace the phone via IMEI correct?
Ideally it'd be nice to have the Touch Pro 2 on T-mobile using 3G occasionally with T-zones but one can only hope...
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has it been confirmed that the touch pro 2 is coming to t-mobile, and also I doubt it will require a data plan because I think the iphone requires a data plan and that is for [email protected] and the fuze came to [email protected] and that didnt need a data plan i am pretty sure that no wm phone has ever requierd a data plan so I doubt this one will
awesome, well i hope thats true. it be good for it to have the 3G bands and not require a data plan, but something tels me that its not going to happen.
Cheeze[iT] said:
awesome, well i hope thats true. it be good for it to have the 3G bands and not require a data plan, but something tels me that its not going to happen.
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But no wm phone has ever required a data plan plus I htink [email protected] requires one for the iphone and then didnt reuire one for the fuze so its possible it wont I REALLY hope no data plan is required
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But no wm phone has ever required a data plan
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I don't know about your country, but I had to get data plan to be able to use e-mail and internet browsing.
T-Mo here also requires data plan to be able to use e-mail and browsing...
Bodisson said:
I don't know about your country, but I had to get data plan to be able to use e-mail and internet browsing.
T-Mo here also requires data plan to be able to use e-mail and browsing...
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you mean you couldnt even use wifi??
Yeah you can use wi-fi, but that is like being placed on an even tighter leash
Getting a data centric phone without a data plan is like driving a car without A/C in Saudi Arabia during the summer. You just don't do it.
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Getting a data centric phone without a data plan is like driving a car without A/C in Saudi Arabia during the summer. You just don't do it.
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I've had eveything from the 8125 to the fuze and now the omnia and never had a data plan. I use wifi at all the place I need to go. Never saw the need to text, either. I needed a pda w/ word, etc., for editing, and tv-out for presentations and a phone as an add-on (no more laptop-- true convergence!) Too cheap for the data plans, when I don't need them. On ATT, BTW, hope they bring on the TP2
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Getting a data centric phone without a data plan is like driving a car without A/C in Saudi Arabia during the summer. You just don't do it.
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better than walking though isnt it?
Cheeze[iT] said:
Ok I have question... since rumors have it that the Touch Pro 2 will be coming to the states and to T-mobile, I'm assuming that it will have T-mobiles 3G band? Hopefully? If so, would that mean the unlocked versions of the Touch Pro 2 have the T-Mobiles 3G band as well or no? This is in the same boat as the G1 as I don't really need the data plan on the G1 but maybe occassional use with T-Zones. I was hoping that the Touch Pro 2 would be able to use T-Mobiles 3G and not be forced to have its own data plan.
Now lets say they make you have the data, could you flash the firmware and radio and that do anything? I heard that they can trace the phone via IMEI so if your using that T-Mobile branded phone, even though you have a different firmware and what not they would still be able to trace the phone via IMEI correct?
Ideally it'd be nice to have the Touch Pro 2 on T-mobile using 3G occasionally with T-zones but one can only hope...
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What is the 3g band for t-mobile? is it different from the one that AT&T uses?
curious as sometimes some phones say 3g compatible for the US and reading some previews show T-mobile is cooking its own 3g networks or so? Is the 3g band in the us : 850/1900 or 2100??
tahnks for clarifying
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I've had eveything from the 8125 to the fuze and now the omnia and never had a data plan. I use wifi at all the place I need to go. Never saw the need to text, either. /QUOTE]
Noob question here, never had a smartphone before....So if I buy the AT&T Fuze outright and get it unlocked I can use it for email and accessing free wifi at restaurants? What about the apps that stream free radio stations? I have a laptop too, really just want the Fuze for the convenience of being to check email and the web from time to time when I'm out and about.
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down with required data plans
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Getting a data centric phone without a data plan is like driving a car without A/C in Saudi Arabia during the summer. You just don't do it.
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Yes, you do. If you have wifi virtually everywhere anyway, why pay an extra $30 per month for carrier data? That's the reason for so many years carriers insisted smartphones not have wifi built-in. They feared it would eat at their data profits.
Also, not everyone is going to have the same use pattern for TP2 that you might. Some people's uses for WinMo will be mostly offline.
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Yes, you do. If you have wifi virtually everywhere anyway, why pay an extra $30 per month for carrier data? That's the reason for so many years carriers insisted smartphones not have wifi built-in. They feared it would eat at their data profits.
Also, not everyone is going to have the same use pattern for TP2 that you might. Some people's uses for WinMo will be mostly offline.
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I mostly use mine offline also, but that doesn't detract from the fact that you can't even get a picture message without a data plan.
Also, I pay $20 a month for data and have for a while now. The data plan has only gone up $5. Also, I live in the most populace state in the US, and free WiFi is not available most places. So fail right there.
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I mostly use mine offline also, but that doesn't detract from the fact that you can't even get a picture message without a data plan.
Also, I pay $20 a month for data and have for a while now. The data plan has only gone up $5. Also, I live in the most populace state in the US, and free WiFi is not available most places. So fail right there.
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Incorrect. You can still get messages, hell you can even use the internet without a plan, it just costs a lot more because your paying per KB rather than for a pool. At least that's how my plan works.
Are there any unlocked TP2 phones around???
1. As far as T-Mobile is concerned, data plan is not required on any phone except the G1 since it pings Google server all the time.
2. You do need a data plan if you want to get any rebate but you can cancel afterward.
3. There is no PPU data plan with T-Mobile therefore if you don't have a data plan, you could only use WiFi for data.
4. Finally, you don't need a data plan to get MMS. All you need is the correct MMS & WAP settings in your phone.
BTW, at least here in SoCal free WiFi hotspots are not available everywhere.
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Will it have the 1700 band for HSDPA and 3G? That is the question.
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1. As far as T-Mobile is concerned, data plan is not required on any BTW, at least here in SoCal free WiFi hotspots are not available everywhere.
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This. I can't stress enough, that most people (probably around 90%) aren't going to be around WiFi connections more often than not. So, I reiterate my statement about data-centric phones. Don't get them without data plans.
Lyian said:
Incorrect. You can still get messages, hell you can even use the internet without a plan, it just costs a lot more because your paying per KB rather than for a pool. At least that's how my plan works.
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False. My brother in-law has AT&T and he can not get MMS without data plan. You are correct about receiving MMS on T-Mobile though. You can receive, but not send them.
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Will it have the 1700 band for HSDPA and 3G? That is the question.
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HSDPA = 3g
Also, this such a dumb question. This is like asking if a Ford Mustang will come with a GM ECU. If it is branded for T-Mobile, it will have the proper bands.
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False. My brother in-law has AT&T and he can not get MMS without data plan. You are correct about receiving MMS on T-Mobile though. You can receive, but not send them.
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B.S. on this one. My wife's line never has any kind of data plan (using both T-Mobile branded and unbranded/unlocked phone) and she never has any problem sending/receiving MMS.
I recently acquired an HTC Vision from overseas. Since the change AT&T's website is giving me the option to add an unlimited data plan for non-smartphones for $10 (I don't currently have any data plan because my prior smartphone was grandfathered into an excemption). I know that the reason they are offering the cheap plan is because they don't sell the phone so they can't detect the model I'm using from the IMEI - but...
* does anyone have experience doing this?
* Do they ever catch you and force you to change?
* Is there an unwritten cap to the unlimited non-smartphone data plan that I should be mindful of not exceeding or an amount that you think would raise flags?
* Is there anything I can do to make myself more under the radar - I was thinking maybe changing my device on the AT&T website to a non-smartphone made by another manufacturer so my old smart phone is no longer listed?
Well first off, make sure that the Desire Z you have has the proper frequencies for AT&T.
As far as running the unlimited featurephone data plan, I'm not sure. They might be able to not tell what type of phone you're using, but they will be able to tell that it isn't one of their list of featurephones the plans work for. I think this is the biggest hurdle, they will more than likely find out that you're using a phone that isn't an AT&T featurephone and kick you off of it.
As far as data usage goes, I'm assuming it will throw up a flag when your first month you use 4gb-5gb of data on your "featurephone" that isn't even supposed to have a full browser lol.
If this was that easy to do, don't you think there would be more people getting a free featurephone with a $10 unlimited data plan and buying their phones unsubsidized? lol. Dunno just never heard of anyone doing this before.
I don't get 3G but the phone works fine on the EDGE network. Since it isn't a phone from the US I'm thinking that it might be able to escape detection a lot easier than say, a phone from T-Mobile.
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I don't get 3G but the phone works fine on the EDGE network. Since it isn't a phone from the US I'm thinking that it might be able to escape detection a lot easier than say, a phone from T-Mobile.
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If it doesn't work on 3G then it has the same bands as a T-mobile G2 (or similar, either way it doesn't work on 850/1900 3G that AT&T uses) and you'd end up with the same result. If you're not even gonna use 3G, then why are you paying for a data plan at all?
The real question is, is there a specific reason why you're using AT&T? If you're just going to be using the phone on EDGE with AT&T, you might as well just pay for a data plan on T-mobile and get 3G/4G... maybe just my personal opinion but I have no idea why someone would choose to pay for a smartphone and use it on the EDGE network. I wanna gouge my eyes out when I'm on EDGE lol.
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If it doesn't work on 3G then it has the same bands as a T-mobile G2 (or similar, either way it doesn't work on 850/1900 3G that AT&T uses) and you'd end up with the same result. If you're not even gonna use 3G, then why are you paying for a data plan at all?
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Right now I'm not paying for a data plan. However, if I did pay for one, I'd only be using it to do things like check my e-mail, use voice dial, or play ad-supported games - nothing that would be crippled by the slower data transfer. Basically stuff that is worth $10/month to me but not $30.
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Right now I'm not paying for a data plan. However, if I did pay for one, I'd only be using it to do things like check my e-mail, use voice dial, or play ad-supported games - nothing that would be crippled by the slower data transfer. Basically stuff that is worth $10/month to me but not $30.
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I see... But what I'm saying is why would you pay for an AT&T plan, are you somehow obligated to stay there? If you're bringing your own phone to T-mobile, their no contract plans are as low as $59.99/mo. Maybe AT&T has good service in your area, I'm not sure. But if you have no reason to stay on AT&T and service is comparable on T-mobile, I doubt you'll be paying more for 3G service on T-mo than you would for only 2G on AT&T.
T-mobile no contract (youre bringing your own phone) = $59.99 for 500min, unlim texts, and "unlimited" data.
AT&T phone plans = $39.99 450minutes, + $20 unlim texts + $10 for "featurephone data" = $69.99 and that doesn't get you 3G.
Not trying to convert, just trying to make sense of your situation.
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I see... But what I'm saying is why would you pay for an AT&T plan, are you somehow obligated to stay there?
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I am obligated to stay with AT&T for various reasons. :-\
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I am obligated to stay with AT&T for various reasons. :-\
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Well that would explain a lot. As far as your original plan goes, I'm not sure how it works. They have to identify between their featurephones and smartphones somehow, and that means they may easily be able to identify that you're using a smartphone. Not sure.
From my understanding when i was about to try this smartphones have there own data set....and regular unlimited browsing is something else. But i can be wrong. Get back to me about this, very interested to see if this works.
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This does work.
I am using an unbranded/unlocked Desire Z on ATT with the $10/month basic data plan. Years ago, I purchased a 'dumb phone' from them and have had this data plan on my account since then.
I have used this data plan with a Touch Pro, Blackberry Bold and Nokia E71, all without any problems. All of them were ATT branded and they could see the device I was using. Only thing that didn't work was the Blackberry branded data apps.
With a phone that is not from ATT they cannot tell what device you are using. I've had the DZ since November and haven't heard anything from there. My data usage each month has ranged from 400-700 MB. Not sure what the cap is, but I don't tether or anything and use wifi when I'm at home as well.
This of course is not in line with their 'smartphone policy' so don't walk into a store and expect them to do this for you. You'll have to do it online... Not sure how closely they watch new additions on the basic plans but I would give it a shot and see if they let you keep going... My guess is that unless you're sucking up data at 2-3GB a month, it won't be a problem...
Let me know how it goes for you!
I have an Australian HTC Desire as my personal line, and I pay the $10 data. AT&T employee line plans suck pretty bad...
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If it doesn't work on 3G then it has the same bands as a T-mobile G2 (or similar, either way it doesn't work on 850/1900 3G that AT&T uses) and you'd end up with the same result. If you're not even gonna use 3G, then why are you paying for a data plan at all?
The real question is, is there a specific reason why you're using AT&T? If you're just going to be using the phone on EDGE with AT&T, you might as well just pay for a data plan on T-mobile and get 3G/4G... maybe just my personal opinion but I have no idea why someone would choose to pay for a smartphone and use it on the EDGE network. I wanna gouge my eyes out when I'm on EDGE lol.
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You are good to go.
I used a G2 on AT&T for a few months before switching to T-Mobile. I do not remember how much data I used but I know that AT&T had no clue what I was doing/using. I was on the $15 unlimited messaging data plan though, not sure about the $10 one. As long as the phone is not branded or specifically made for AT&T bands (like the AT&T N1) they have no clue what you have, that is the main reason I only use GSM networks.
Protip: You can suspend your line if you are on a family plan and switch to T-mobile which is what I am currently doing until my wife's iPhone contract runs out. They will still charge you $10/month though. $25 for 2GB is WAY overpriced.
For those of you who were interested in hearing if this worked: I've been on the data plan for about two weeks and have used about 200mb thus far. So far, so good. The EDGE network speeds can be a little slow but it is better than nothing.
I'm curious if I'll be detected now that AT&T has acquired T-Mobile, since the G2 is in T-Mobile's lineup, which is based on the HTC Vision just like the Desire Z that I am using.
my question is...
Why cant you use 3g if you have a DZ from overseas? the G2 is the phone with the weird 3g bands. the overseas phone should work like a charm on att.
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For those of you who were interested in hearing if this worked: I've been on the data plan for about two weeks and have used about 200mb thus far. So far, so good. The EDGE network speeds can be a little slow but it is better than nothing.
I'm curious if I'll be detected now that AT&T has acquired T-Mobile, since the G2 is in T-Mobile's lineup, which is based on the HTC Vision just like the Desire Z that I am using.
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Why cant you use 3g if you have a DZ from overseas? the G2 is the phone with the weird 3g bands. the overseas phone should work like a charm on att.
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Unfortunately it does not have the 3G bands that ATT uses.
[email protected] 30/month for data I'm at 15 or 20 for unlimited data and texts with tmobile
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Lots of people do this. I have a Nokia E71 currently on this plan (and a Desire Z on the way). My only concern is with AT&T's new crackdown on tethering.
Can someone tell me if ATT can make the difference between the type of data transfer someone uses (like web browsing vs Market android download or google syncing)?
Yes they can catch you. Yes they can tell the differance between mms and web browsing....yes they can see every site and bit of information, every call made, every text sent, every minute of every day..... the questions is do they care? The simple answer is no. I have used my own phones on att for 8+ years. I not even sure if its agaisnt any policy they have anyway? Anyway if they ever did "catch" you the worst they would do is say stop that, pay more, or cancel your account. Then maybe you will be free to join tmo lol.
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I had a few questions since I am tried of sprint and want to get a n7100 on soalvei (tmobile network):
1) how would I know my area is refarmed? ( I live in north miami, fl )
2) is there a site or thread of a large sample of speed tests I can look up for my area on the network compatible with the n7100? The reason i ask is that I am afraid that I won't get reliable high speed (anything over 5Mbit down consistently is my goal).
3) I am on the fence about solavei and was wondering if tmobile has any options to purchase that do not throttle your speeds? I plan to use 20-30gb a month
4) Is there a trusted site that I can purchase an unlocked gsm n7100 that is compatible with the high speed tmobile network? I don't want to spend more than $600 if possible.
5) should I invest in the n7105 (has lte radio) since tmobile merged with metropcs and is rolling out LTE? (or should I wait for the note 3?)
I am completely out of the loop on tmobile news and would appreciate any help on making the switch over.
Thank you all.
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I had a few questions since I am tried of sprint and want to get a n7100 on soalvei (tmobile network):
1) how would I know my area is refarmed? ( I live in north miami, fl )
2) is there a site or thread of a large sample of speed tests I can look up for my area on the network compatible with the n7100? The reason i ask is that I am afraid that I won't get reliable high speed (anything over 5Mbit down consistently is my goal).
3) I am on the fence about solavei and was wondering if tmobile has any options to purchase that do not throttle your speeds? I plan to use 20-30gb a month
4) Is there a trusted site that I can purchase an unlocked gsm n7100 that is compatible with the high speed tmobile network? I don't want to spend more than $600 if possible.
5) should I invest in the n7105 (has lte radio) since tmobile merged with metropcs and is rolling out LTE? (or should I wait for the note 3?)
I am completely out of the loop on tmobile news and would appreciate any help on making the switch over.
Thank you all.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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When I check my IMEI on solavei, it says "sorry! your phone isn't compatible with Solavei Mobile Service" I just unlocked it, does it take some time?
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When I check my IMEI on solavei, it says "sorry! your phone isn't compatible with Solavei Mobile Service" I just unlocked it, does it take some time?
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Hmm, how am I suppose to get a SIM? Would I have to use a dummy phone to register with solavei?
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Hmm, how am I suppose to get a SIM? Would I have to use a dummy phone to register with solavei?
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I just grabbed the IMEI for a phone I knew would work and had the right sized SIM. The IMEI used to confirm the phone is not at all tied to the account and is only used to size the SIM and match to their database. Once you receive your SIM you can just activate and go.
For that matter I have bulk packs of Solavei SIM's and could just send you one and register you if you don't already have a sponsor, or find someone local who has SIM's in stock.
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I just grabbed the IMEI for a phone I knew would work and had the right sized SIM. The IMEI used to confirm the phone is not at all tied to the account and is only used to size the SIM and match to their database. Once you receive your SIM you can just activate and go.
For that matter I have bulk packs of Solavei SIM's and could just send you one and register you if you don't already have a sponsor, or find someone local who has SIM's in stock.
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I did the same thing, my sponsor let me use his IMEI just to get the sim, and then once we liked the service, my wife used his sim for her own note 2.
As for question number 3, they do have a plan that doesn't have any cap, but I believe it's $89 per month.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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Awesome, I am glad you like it. I was hoping to use my phone to download .nzb movies while on the go and use it as my main internet line via tethering. That is where I came up with the 20-30 gb figure.
Would solavei throttle me or block my account if I use that much data?
Solavei gives you 4gb 4g speed than throttle you to 2g
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Solavei gives you 4gb 4g speed than throttle you to 2g
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dang. welp.. looks like I will be sticking with sprint
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dang. welp.. looks like I will be sticking with sprint
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Doesn't sprint throttle as well? In this part of TN sprint coverage is plain garbage. Then again, I don't think I have ever lived in a good sprint coverage area.
T-Mobile seems to have the only truly unlimited plan that isn't throttled. I just don't think it's worth $89 a month. But I also pay only $34 per month for a 10 mb fiber line to the house. Ymmv.
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Doesn't sprint throttle as well? In this part of TN sprint coverage is plain garbage. Then again, I don't think I have ever lived in a good sprint coverage area.
T-Mobile seems to have the only truly unlimited plan that isn't throttled. I just don't think it's worth $89 a month. But I also pay only $34 per month for a 10 mb fiber line to the house. Ymmv.
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Nope, sprint doesn't throttle at all, although it's hard to find a place with LTE or WiMAX which means, you'll be stuck on their 3G at best.
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Chris, how did you get the MMS to send out on the Note 2? ...I've been trying different things, but I'm stuck...
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Chris, how did you get the MMS to send out on the Note 2? ...I've been trying different things, but I'm stuck...
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Got MMS working?
There isn't a forum for the lte version so I'm asking the question here. Does anyone know if the AT&T version will use the same sim as the note2? I want to switch the sim between devices when I drive. A portable inet enabled nav system for my car.
Yes, it takes a micro sim. Same as the note II. Will come with a "warm sim" installed to support session based (prepaid) pricing as well.
update: I just swapped mine out and it won't latch in place... not sim related, as none of my sims snap in. Silly spring loaded sim slots......
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Yes, it takes a micro sim. Same as the note II. Will come with a "warm sim" installed to support session based (prepaid) pricing as well.
update: I just swapped mine out and it won't latch in place... not sim related, as none of my sims snap in. Silly spring loaded sim slots......
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Weird. Do you think no microsim will fit? If it did, do you think you could use it as a giant phone on your car dash? It would be perfect as an internet connected car navigation replacement.
They fit perfectly. I just have one unit where the latch mechanism is messed up.
As far as the usage described... the AT&T variant does not function as a phone as configured. It is considered a connected tablet and no voice services are included in the stock software. That said, it makes a hell of a navi. You just wont be making standard cellular calls from it as well.
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oOamnesiaOo said:
They fit perfectly. I just have one unit where the latch mechanism is messed up.
As far as the usage described... the AT&T variant does not function as a phone as configured. It is considered a connected tablet and no voice services are included in the stock software. That said, it makes a hell of a navi. You just wont be making standard cellular calls from it as well.
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That's too bad. I was hoping I wouldn't have to tether my gs4 to the tablet and use Skype and google voice with it maybe ill just wait for that Sony Xperia z ultra as my next phone. The note2 wasn't big enough to use effectively from my dash.
RCranium666 said:
That's too bad. I was hoping I wouldn't have to tether my gs4 to the tablet and use Skype and google voice with it maybe ill just wait for that Sony Xperia z ultra as my next phone. The note2 wasn't big enough to use effectively from my dash.
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You would be able to use skype if you have a data plan active on the Note 8.0. It is LTE and working great for me for 3 days now. Of course it would need its own data plan, or if you are on a Mobile Share plan it is only 10 bux to add to your existing data bucket. Not bad imho.
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You would be able to use skype if you have a data plan active on the Note 8.0. It is LTE and working great for me for 3 days now. Of course it would need its own data plan, or if you are on a Mobile Share plan it is only 10 bux to add to your existing data bucket. Not bad imho.
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What service provider are you using for your LTE?
Interesting. I had the HK LTE version, and its SIM slot failed - not a latching problem - just started telling me the SIM card wasn't there after a couple of days.
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There isn't a forum for the lte version so I'm asking the question here. Does anyone know if the AT&T version will use the same sim as the note2? I want to switch the sim between devices when I drive. A portable inet enabled nav system for my car.
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As for same size (micro) yes. As for functioning...NO!! The Note 8 LTE will only function on data based sim cards. Such as a mobile Wi-Fi hot spot sim card.
Has anybody found any ROM's for the AT&T version yet?
Muffycheeks said:
As for same size (micro) yes. As for functioning...NO!! The Note 8 LTE will only function on data based sim cards. Such as a mobile Wi-Fi hot spot sim card.
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Are you sure a regular voice/data SIM won't just work for data only in the device? I really makes me angry that AT&T has all the phone stuff taken out. I want a tablet that I can use as a phone also. I may just buy the international version and not worry about LTE.
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Has anybody found any ROM's for the AT&T version yet?
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Nope. You can't even root it yet. No one has bothered to find an exploit since so few people actually own an AT&T version right now. haha Even if it achieves wider adoption, let's be honest...tablets with cell connections are usually frowned upon by the XDA and other dev-friendly communities. They'll always be treated as second-class citizens around here because they have no hipster cred 'round these parts. If we were with the in crowd, we'd buy a WiFI-only model and just tether it to our phones. :silly: A lot of people in these communities just see absolutely no point to, and thus thumb their nose at, a tablet with an LTE connection. You can give them reason after reason why they're useful, but it falls on deaf ears more times than not.
Don't expect ROMs or root for the AT&T model until there are more people that actually own one.
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Are you sure a regular voice/data SIM won't just work for data only in the device? I really makes me angry that AT&T has all the phone stuff taken out. I want a tablet that I can use as a phone also. I may just buy the international version and not worry about LTE.
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If you want it from the horse's mouth call AT&T store. As for me I went with the 5100 international version.
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Are you sure a regular voice/data SIM won't just work for data only in the device? I really makes me angry that AT&T has all the phone stuff taken out. I want a tablet that I can use as a phone also. I may just buy the international version and not worry about LTE.
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Wouldn't that look really awkward walking around with an 8"tablet on the side of your face?
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"bluetooth headset".....
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Nope. You can't even root it yet. No one has bothered to find an exploit since so few people actually own an AT&T version right now. haha Even if it achieves wider adoption, let's be honest...tablets with cell connections are usually frowned upon by the XDA and other dev-friendly communities. They'll always be treated as second-class citizens around here because they have no hipster cred 'round these parts. If we were with the in crowd, we'd buy a WiFI-only model and just tether it to our phones. :silly: A lot of people in these communities just see absolutely no point to, and thus thumb their nose at, a tablet with an LTE connection. You can give them reason after reason why they're useful, but it falls on deaf ears more times than not.
Don't expect ROMs or root for the AT&T model until there are more people that actually own one.
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Truth. We all have our reasons which I'm sure is similar to each others. I don't want to drain my phone battery and subsidiary prices are nice too
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rambo6 said:
Are you sure a regular voice/data SIM won't just work for data only in the device? I really makes me angry that AT&T has all the phone stuff taken out. I want a tablet that I can use as a phone also. I may just buy the international version and not worry about LTE.
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The rep at my store said that I could change the sim over to a voice plan any time I want but it will cost more per month. $10 for the data only plan compared to $25 for the voice/data plan (like any other device). I don't see a point in spending the money until somebody figures out how to get calls working. He also said that the sim would still work in the tab after changing to a voice plan. The question is: is the hardware capable of supporting voice calls? If so, then I'm confident that somebody will figure out how fairly quickly.
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The rep at my store said that I could change the sim over to a voice plan any time I want but it will cost more per month. $10 for the data only plan compared to $25 for the voice/data plan (like any other device). I don't see a point in spending the money until somebody figures out how to get calls working. He also said that the sim would still work in the tab after changing to a voice plan. The question is: is the hardware capable of supporting voice calls? If so, then I'm confident that somebody will figure out how fairly quickly.
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No. The AT&T SGH-I467 model does not have the phone hardware and therefore is incapable of making calls. Look at a picture of the international 3G model and compare it to a picture of the AT&T model. You'll notice the AT&T model doesn't have an earpiece at the top like the international model does. You can use the AT&T model to make calls via VoIP services like Skype, but if you want to make calls over a cell network, you're out of luck. If that's a feature that you really, really need, then you'll have to buy an international unlocked 3G model.
As a side note, the official Samsung flip cover for the Note 8.0 is designed to fit all models worldwide. This means it has a cutout in the top for the earpiece that you find on the international 3G model. It looks a little hokey when you put it on the AT&T or WiFi-only models since there's nothing there to plug that hole.
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Are you sure a regular voice/data SIM won't just work for data only in the device? I really makes me angry that AT&T has all the phone stuff taken out. I want a tablet that I can use as a phone also. I may just buy the international version and not worry about LTE.
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No. The AT&T SGH-I467 model does not have the phone hardware and therefore is incapable of making calls. Look at a picture of the international 3G model and compare it to a picture of the AT&T model. You'll notice the AT&T model doesn't have an earpiece at the top like the international model does. You can use the AT&T model to make calls via VoIP services like Skype, but if you want to make calls over a cell network, you're out of luck. If that's a feature that you really, really need, then you'll have to buy an international unlocked 3G model.
As a side note, the official Samsung flip cover for the Note 8.0 is designed to fit all models worldwide. This means it has a cutout in the top for the earpiece that you find on the international 3G model. It looks a little hokey when you put it on the AT&T or WiFi-only models since there's nothing there to plug that hole.
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear. By hardware I meant the radio side of things. I agree that the microphone and speaker are definately not configured for calls. Are you saying that you have reason to beleive that it is impossible to develop a way to place calls via bluetooth headset?
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear. By hardware I meant the radio side of things. I agree that the microphone and speaker are definately not configured for calls. Are you saying that you have reason to beleive that it is impossible to develop a way to place calls via bluetooth headset?
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Yes, people have tried to place calls and send native text messages. It appears that there is no usable radio hardware inside the device other than that which is required for data.
Now, it's possible that the hardware IS there but the baseband firmware simply disables it, but there's no proof of that. Unless we could hack the radio firmware somehow (not likely) or do a teardown of the tablet, we'll never know for 100% sure. But, as things sit right now, you will neither be able to make phone calls of any kind, nor be able to send native text messages to or from the tablet, at all with an SGH-I467 AT&T model because either there's no radio hardware or the I467UAMDF radio software has disabled the phone hardware entirely.
I know that the P605 will not work with LTE. However I can confirm that my straight talk Sim card works and I am getting HSPA+ (ATT Straight Talk Card) Here is my situation. I purchased a sim car from AT&T and activated it on the Gophone plan.. $35 per month for 500 minutes and unlimited text and data. For some reason no matter what APN I put in I don't get any data. I got data the first night I set it up and now I get no data. I have a International Version of the Galaxy S4 running with a GoPhone dumb phone $50 per month unlimited everything. (AT&T system does not recognize the IMEI so it reverts it to a dumb phone). Why isn't it working for my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I figure $35 bucks isn't a bad deal. Please assist or am I dead in the water.
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I know that the P605 will not work with LTE. However I can confirm that my straight talk Sim card works and I am getting HSPA+ (ATT Straight Talk Card) Here is my situation. I purchased a sim car from AT&T and activated it on the Gophone plan.. $35 per month for 500 minutes and unlimited text and data. For some reason no matter what APN I put in I don't get any data. I got data the first night I set it up and now I get no data. I have a International Version of the Galaxy S4 running with a GoPhone dumb phone $50 per month unlimited everything. (AT&T system does not recognize the IMEI so it reverts it to a dumb phone). Why isn't it working for my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I figure $35 bucks isn't a bad deal. Please assist or am I dead in the water.
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I also have a P605, and I've been trying to get connected via Red Pocket Mobile, an AT&T MVNO, but I haven't had much luck. However, my issues are with Red Pocket's terrible customer service, and trying to get their smallest data plan (1GB for $10) connected to the sim card (that it took them 2 weeks to send).
I've read about a T-Mobile $30/month plan for BYOD devices that I will test out, once I get the sim card from them (currently backordered)...My device had a USA T-Mobile profile already present in the APN settings, I'm hoping it will work!
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I also have a P605, and I've been trying to get connected via Red Pocket Mobile, an AT&T MVNO, but I haven't had much luck. However, my issues are with Red Pocket's terrible customer service, and trying to get their smallest data plan (1GB for $10) connected to the sim card (that it took them 2 weeks to send).
I've read about a T-Mobile $30/month plan for BYOD devices that I will test out, once I get the sim card from them (currently backordered)...My device had a USA T-Mobile profile already present in the APN settings, I'm hoping it will work!
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I had that Tmobile plan however my area is not fully framed for the 1900MHZ on tmobile. AT&T works but like I said must be something funky going one. At this point I may send my device back for a refund or sell it. I may just wait for a US carrier to get it. Yeah I know I won't get updates or support from US carriers.........wait damn that........ I will get my money back for this one and just go back to using my wifi version. (gave to my wife but will have to get it back) US carriers really suck when it comes to certain things.
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I had that Tmobile plan however my area is not fully framed for the 1900MHZ on tmobile. AT&T works but like I said must be something funky going one. At this point I may send my device back for a refund or sell it. I may just wait for a US carrier to get it. Yeah I know I won't get updates or support from US carriers.........wait damn that........ I will get my money back for this one and just go back to using my wifi version. (gave to my wife but will have to get it back) US carriers really suck when it comes to certain things.
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Good luck getting your WiFi back from your wife
San Diego should be farmed to 1900 so I'm hoping for decent coverage around town. I faced the same dilemma here, wait or go for it... My old tablet was an Acer A500 so I really needed something (and some people complain about lag on the Note? Ha!).
If you want, I could send you the APN setting Red Pocket lists on their manual setup page, if you think that would help...
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Good luck getting your WiFi back from your wife
San Diego should be farmed to 1900 so I'm hoping for decent coverage around town. I faced the same dilemma here, wait or go for it... My old tablet was an Acer A500 so I really needed something (and some people complain about lag on the Note? Ha!).
If you want, I could send you the APN setting Red Pocket lists on their manual setup page, if you think that would help...
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Alas you are correct. Wife won't give up that darn thing. Has passwords on it and all her personal stuff. ARGGGGGG!!!!! NOw what do I do.
alynch75 said:
Alas you are correct. Wife won't give up that darn thing. Has passwords on it and all her personal stuff. ARGGGGGG!!!!! NOw what do I do.
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Sorry... can't help with that
I noticed someone in another thread mentioned they had AT&T working. I can't post links, but in the Original Android Development section, "[RECOVERY] TWRP2.6.3.x TeamWin Recovery Project 12/27" at the top of page 11 there is a message about using AT&T and getting HSPA+ data.
Trying to post a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515656&page=11
Good luck!
I'm expecting my P605 this Friday. I got it from Ebay. I have a TMO on my Note 3, so technically, should my sim card work on my P605 when I try it?
Will the APN seetings on the phone for TMO work on the P605? Thanks guys.
jinda628 said:
I'm expecting my P605 this Friday. I got it from Ebay. I have a TMO on my Note 3, so technically, should my sim card work on my P605 when I try it?
Will the APN seetings on the phone for TMO work on the P605? Thanks guys.
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There shouldn't be any problems using the sim and APN settings. The data rate you will see will depend on your area. If TMO has 'reformed' the edge frequencies to HSPA then you will get decent data. Otherwise you may get stuck with edge...
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There shouldn't be any problems using the sim and APN settings. The data rate you will see will depend on your area. If TMO has 'reformed' the edge frequencies to HSPA then you will get decent data. Otherwise you may get stuck with edge...
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So if I get 30/18 speed in my house and 20/3 more or less at work. *Should I expect to get the same speed when I put my sim in the tablet?
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So if I get 30/18 speed in my house and 20/3 more or less at work. *Should I expect to get the same speed when I put my sim in the tablet?
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If your Note 3 isn't using LTE when it gets those speeds, then 'maybe'. Because the P605 doesn't have a perfect match for US freqs it still may not. I'm not sure where you are located, but if it's in a refarmed area you should (P605 supports HSPA on 1900). Here is the link (hope it goes) for the refarmed areas:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/blog/2013/12/17/network-modernization-update
Sorry, I'm just learning all this too, and I can't really give you a definitive answer!
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If your Note 3 isn't using LTE when it gets those speeds, then 'maybe'. Because the P605 doesn't have a perfect match for US freqs it still may not. I'm not sure where you are located, but if it's in a refarmed area you should (P605 supports HSPA on 1900). Here is the link (hope it goes) for the refarmed areas:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/blog/2013/12/17/network-modernization-update
Sorry, I'm just learning all this too, and I can't really give you a definitive answer!
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Hey bro you've been a big help. Thanks. I bought the tablet without knowing this issue. Anyway, I get a 4G LTE signal on my Note 3 so I guess that's LTE speed. I'm in Houston, TX and it says in the link you posted that we are one of the modernized market so we'll see.
Has anyone gotten the P605 to work on AT&T
Has anyone gotten this thing to work on the AT&T go Plans?
I need a carrier with a good rate that uses the AT&T network. Previously I would put my international devices on the go phone plan since it sees it in the system as a dumb phone however with this one it won't connect to the data. Gives me a message that I need to add a supported data plan.
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Has anyone gotten this thing to work on the AT&T go Plans?
I need a carrier with a good rate that uses the AT&T network. Previously I would put my international devices on the go phone plan since it sees it in the system as a dumb phone however with this one it won't connect to the data. Gives me a message that I need to add a supported data plan.
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Check out
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011/02/best-prepaid-data-carriers-and-plans.html
Ok guys. Tried my TMO sim on this note 10.1 and it's only getting hspa+. I run a speedtest and got 11/3 d/u speed.
It's a lot better if I tether my note 3, I'm getting the same speed I get from phone.
jinda628 said:
Ok guys. Tried my TMO sim on this note 10.1 and it's only getting hspa+. I run a speedtest and got 11/3 d/u speed.
It's a lot better if I tether my note 3, I'm getting the same speed I get from phone.
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Because the P605 doesn't support LTE in the US frequencies, HSDPA+ is the best you will be able to do. Your note 3 is tuned to use the LTE freqs here.
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Because the P605 doesn't support LTE in the US frequencies, HSDPA+ is the best you will be able to do. Your note 3 is tuned to use the LTE freqs here.
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Yeah I was told about that. I just want to see how big is the difference. Making me think twice about this LTE version but I prefer the Snapdragon over Exynos.
Are all Wifi version on Exynos SOC?
jinda628 said:
Yeah I was told about that. I just want to see how big is the difference. Making me think twice about this LTE version but I prefer the Snapdragon over Exynos.
Are all Wifi version on Exynos SOC?
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All WiFi versions are Exynos...
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All WiFi versions are Exynos...
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I see. Thanks.
Maybe thats one reason I'll stick with this LTE version. Maybe someday TMO will utilize the same band. I hope