[Q] thinking about it - Huawei Ascend P6, Mate

hello people,
im thinking about buying this phone but need advice, as ive heard a lot of negative reviews.
1 - Is the battery awful ive heard like few hours playing games charge twice a day. Or does new firmware fix this?
2 - new firmware versions - were do you get and how to install?
3- is the heat as bad as they say?
4 - Is it orth buying or waiting for p6s?:good:

All the above are exaggerations. The price of the P6 makes it worth while, because everyone seems to compare it to phones at twice the price. If you want an expensive phone buy one. If you don't, buy a P6, it's almost as good as an expensive phone. Or in my case, better. It looks better than most, and I'm too old for games. It's as smooth as silk for what I do.

Antutu score of P6 is arounf 16000 while that of P6S is 22000. P6S has advantages over P6 in having better CPU that is less battery consuming. The GPU is also better in having more games optimized for it. And i guess it would also having better browsing time. If games are important to you, then P6S is better. The game developers don't optimize their games for the Vivante GPU on P6 and hence its a gamble on which games would work on P6. Also P6S would have LTE.
If games or LTE is not important to you, then none of the issues that you mentioned like heat or battery etc is a problem on the P6.

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Is is smart to buy now a Xperia play?

Hello i've got a question?...
I have now a htc wildfire and it is time to buy an new one I like gaming on mobiles, So my decision is buying a Xperia Play for its WONDERFULL keypad and mainly for it's price(i have a limited amount of money for a phone) ,but is it good for era 2012-2013 gaming? like modern combat 4 and Grand Theft Auto® Vice city 10th year anniversery and maybe other wonderfull games. and is the resulotion also good, i've got optimus 2x in thaughts but i read it breaks too fast and battery sucks
please give me some advice
Cheers :victory:
Yep.
But might not be the best choice for games in 2013 or 2014.
It's a good phone but without overcloing or good optimized games, I don't think that it is highly recommendable to buy it for that purpose you have of playing 2013 and 2014 games on it.
But if you can get it cheap why don't try it?
^Yeah, forget to state that its also really cheap.
Get it, it's a good phone. It's not as generic looking as the others.
Are there maybe other phones that are cheap and can run these games
How much are you looking to spend?
Used Galaxy Nexus are going cheap right now.
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The current games aren't running as smoothly as they should. I do not intend to sound pessimistic, but I doubt games in '13 or '14 will run smoothly, if the world still exists by then.
No it isn't. Anybody telling you to buy the phone is either a gaming enthusiast or really loves the phone. The phone has been long abondoned by Sony, so no updates. It is also really underpowered and lag becomes apparent unless you've overclocked. However, compare it to even the SGS2 which was released around the same time and this phone is still not smooth. There are people using this device as a pure android gaming device now and many including developers have bought new devices. As well as this, the phone is thick which can be an annoyance at times. Before anybody says my phone is not setup properly, I am running .62 stock,debloated,overclocked.
EDIT- The battery sucks as well.
ridder215215 said:
The current games aren't running as smoothly as they should. I do not intend to sound pessimistic, but I doubt games in '13 or '14 will run smoothly, if the world still exists by then.
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It'll exist. We will all be in debt though. And not current debt, even worse debt.
OT - I honestly wouldn't. Get a SG3. You can play future games and current games on lovely settings.
I'd love to buy a sgs3 but i have a limited amount of money
erdal67 said:
I'd love to buy a sgs3 but i have a limited amount of money
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I just bought a Galaxy Nexus for $200, so you just have to look. Its not as fast as the S3in term of gaming, but yhe software is better on a whole due to being stock Android and you can run a kernel to overclock the GPU.
erdal67 said:
Hello i've got a question?...
I have now a htc wildfire and it is time to buy an new one I like gaming on mobiles, So my decision is buying a Xperia Play for its WONDERFULL keypad and mainly for it's price(i have a limited amount of money for a phone) ,but is it good for era 2012-2013 gaming? like modern combat 4 and Grand Theft Auto® Vice city 10th year anniversery and maybe other wonderfull games. and is the resulotion also good, i've got optimus 2x in thaughts but i read it breaks too fast and battery sucks
please give me some advice
Cheers :victory:
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I have both these phones and I can tell you my Play outperforms my 2X in everything.
My 2X isn't rooted/custom whereas my Play is, but it's no excuse for it to perform as badly as it does. You're also tied down to Android 2.3 on the 2X as there is a problem with video accelleration in ICS/JB... Something to do with Nivvy not releasing proper libs or something.. Not sure.
But yeah, Play all the way.
Not to mention, all those emulators and vintage games you can now play again on a handheld device... The play is around £100 off ebay these days, for that kind of price you simply can't say no! Especially when all these developers are working so hard to make the Play so much better than Sony ever could..
What about xperia U , P, Arc S, Ray, neo V
The play is a wonderful phone but now day graphics are a little much for it now unless you O/C and everything else but I would suggest you get like the RAZR M with a. 2Ghz processor but single core, but the play is just out of date and I suggest you get a better phone... but I love my play
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A phone, with a genuine gamepad, that can emulate everything up to and including N64 and Playstation,
That will NEVER get old for me.
Screw new games.
For older games, it's the best thing you can buy. But most newer games and even some games from last year will lag or not have the same graphics as a higher end device. If you care about how your games look, then don't get this. Another thing is, the single core 1 GHZ processor is really slow, even with OC. A newer dual core or quad core device will be a much better experience when it comes to thing like web browsing and general things you would do on a phone as well as running games very fast. Multi-tasking is not good on this phone on any ROM other than stock. It has a very low amount of ram. My minimum specs for an Android phone after this will be dual core and 1 gb of RAM. Single core phones make android look bad imo.

Need a xperia play for a cheap price

Hello everyone ,
I am looking for a phone or tablet that has excellent performance and is good for gaming but for a cheap price. (eg: maybe 100-250 $)
I found the xperia play and I see it has a built in keypad and looks like it has decent gaming performance with overclocking and custom roms but I am wondering if it will be outdated soon as It is an aging device (Q1 2011 hardware with only 512 mb of ram) could someone please tell me if this is not the case or if you can reccomend something better.
Also one more question, do you regret buying your experia play or were you satisfied with your purchase! :fingers-crossed:
Thank you so much for you input!:highfive:
spartacus279 said:
Hello everyone ,
I am looking for a phone or tablet that has excellent performance and is good for gaming but for a cheap price. (eg: maybe 100-250 $)
I found the xperia play and I see it has a built in keypad and looks like it has decent gaming performance with overclocking and custom roms but I am wondering if it will be outdated soon as It is an aging device (Q1 2011 hardware with only 512 mb of ram) could someone please tell me if this is not the case or if you can reccomend something better.
Also one more question, do you regret buying your experia play or were you satisfied with your purchase! :fingers-crossed:
Thank you so much for you input!:highfive:
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The Xperia Play is outdated already, but I don't regret buying it. In fact it's one of the best purchases I've ever made.
The Play (with the assistance of much development) has lived up to the mark and has been a really good performer. Even now it still amazes me that it can keep up with a lot of the latest games. Of course, they may not be running at max speed or best quality but from a single core Adreno 205 device, it's quite amazing.
If my Play died today, I would most likely replace it. They're cheap, has a great development area for it and most of all has a gaming pad. If you play games on your phone a fair amount, you really will think it's the best thing since sliced bread.
The only phone I would replace it with, is the Xperia Z... Because that's just frickin' awesome.. ><
I don't regret buying it, but I'm only fifty-odd bucks into it if you don't count the memory card, since it's not a sony-specific memory card I'm not counting it
If xda-developers didn't exist, however, it would be garbage.
I think owning a stack of playstation games also really increases the value of the platform...
Regardless, it's pretty fast, and pretty well-featured. The GPU speed is pretty good on GB and is supposed to be 30% faster on ICS. It may only have one core, but it's a pretty fast one. Overall, a good used value, or I wouldn't have bought it
Very truly pleased with my Xperia, was lucky enough to get fhe phone free from Verizon (upgrade phone was free) I play games once in while. But its truly beast we have the comtroller to a playstation built into the phone how cool.is it? TOTALLY! !!!!
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Turns out the 16 Core GPU Is bad

Hey guys, many of you will know that most games you play lack in FPS, most commonly in NFS most wanted or real racing 3, heck ive even see people say Temple run lags.
Some people say, Developers need to make the games work with the 16 core GPU as its not that common.
I looked it up, and it turns out that even though its a 16 core GPU it isnt even nearly as good as the Adreno 320 found in the nexus 4, Xperia Z etc and that the CPU Isnt as good as last years processors ( SD S4 Pro, Nvidia Quad core Tegra 3 )
to be fair I already knew that the Processor wasnt that good, but for anyone who says that their games arent running well its because of that.
I have to give a hand to Huawei though, in there recent firmware updates the benchmark scores have been getting higher, which is great meaning the processor, RAM and GPU are all working a little bit better then they were before.
Im just curious as to how long they can keep updating it to be better, it wont take long until mainstream games require a minimum of the equivalent of the Adreno 330.
Ive also read that the Huawei Ascend P6 + is it? The phablet version will have a better processor clocked at 1.6ghz and maybe a better GPU?
Anyone got any more info? or do games run well enough for you not to care?
Let me know
- Jack
The gaming performance is mixed. See this video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HH8LskTQQWA
As you can see, some high graphics demanding games work well while others not. I don't game on mobile so didn't try any gaming except two days ago with Shadowgun: deadzone. I use B118. While on the video above, it only complains about glitches on panning, but for me oddly the whole graphics was corrupted and unplayable. Maybe someone with B117 or B116 Roms could check if shadowgun works better.
But I still doubt its a problem with the processor. Because the benchmarks are close to the Nexus 4 and S3. I doubt also there are any games made that would not be compatible with those devices and hence if it can work on that, it should work on the P6. It would take another year atleast before game developers plan to ignore Nexus 4 and Samsung S3.** Hence problem seems to come down to optimization.* (Also, with the shadowgun updating itself a week ago, they have officially said that the new update has problem with all Samsungs devices cause of its GPU and they would come with a fix. This could be the same issue with P6 that these games haven't been made to optimize for Vivante GC 4000.)
Furthermore, I also think that the unique abilities of the Huawei like the 64bit memory etc are not being taken advantage off because of other processors lacking it.
As for news on K3V3 and K3V2 Pro processor and the new P6S, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487791
It's not a good gpu, never has been, it is not optimized for almost anything, because there are only 2 phones that use this gpu. The cpu isnt that fast either. A Nexus 4 (Which costs as much as P6) is way better in performance, support, user customisations, stock rom etc.
tauio111 said:
It's not a good gpu, never has been, it is not optimized for almost anything, because there are only 2 phones that use this gpu. The cpu isnt that fast either. A Nexus 4 (Which costs as much as P6) is way better in performance, support, user customisations, stock rom etc.
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The nexus 4 is almost half the price at £159 for the 8gb and the huawei ascend P6 retails at £329 ( although its gone down from £329 too £309 to £279 )
The nexus 4 seems like the better option, ive had one, they're quick, good looking but the battery sucks and so does the camera.
Honestly, the only reason i want a P6 is the amazing build, i want a metal phone so badly ! and apparently the camera isnt half bad
Optimization seems to be the problem. Agreed. But can it be solved by firmware updates ? Or is it totally dependent on game developers ? Android 4.4 brings better optimizations including for games supposedly. So that would be one option im looking forward too. So if android is better optimized maybe soon the super power processors would get tough to differentiate on usage performance and would become less important.
If the GPU is inherently bad, then how can the likes of real racing 3, asphalt 8, modern warfare 4 work perfectly fine on it ?
warea said:
If the GPU is inherently bad, then how can the likes of real racing 3, asphalt 8, modern warfare 4 work perfectly fine on it ?
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I just played Asphalt 7 on the P6...lagging in menu's and in gameplay...
Engineers at HUAWEI screwed up a bit when chosing the GPU for otherwise pretty nice chip. While the GPU has an ok performance, since its olny present on very few devices, devs aren't showing much love. This is understandable, because I can see why devs wouldn't want to spend resources on optimizing their app for a GPU noone really has.
Since I don't use my device for gaming, I'm quite satisfied with my purchase.
Performance comparison of the GPU: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2671145379?lp=5027&is_bakan=0&mo_device=1
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Shadowgun: Deadzone works like this on my B118.
Any idea why the green man walking in screen happens ? I get in black too. And odd part is that i have seen users getting this problem when they play temple run even though there are other users including online reviews that find temple run working very smooth and fluid.
warea said:
Shadowgun: Deadzone works like this on my B118.
Any idea why the green man walking in screen happens ? I get in black too. And odd part is that i have seen users getting this problem when they play temple run even though there are other users including online reviews that find temple run working very smooth and fluid.
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i have the solution delete cache of the game this is because the game try to save textures in sd card or something like that
Hi, lags in games are because Huawei runs a QEMU'd "Android Emulator" called Goldfish. Its same emulator as used by Android SDK on our computers
They also patched the Kernel for avoid flickering. Witch is needed if using real GPU in Goldfish.
Both in that mix are Horrorful for whole system Performance.
U can see this really bad on Benchmarks and heavy 3D Games.
GPU is faster as Tegra 3 (May about 30%) belive it or not
Traace said:
Hi, lags in games are because Huawei runs a QEMU'd "Android Emulator" called Goldfish. Its same emulator as used by Android SDK on our computers
They also patched the Kernel for avoid flickering. Witch is needed if using real GPU in Goldfish.
Both in that mix are Horrorful for whole system Performance.
U can see this really bad on Benchmarks and heavy 3D Games.
GPU is faster as Tegra 3 (May about 30%) belive it or not
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Yea must say im disappointed with GPU power on my P6 :/. My old SII is better in games :/
Is it really? I have no problem with graphics on it. If I want to play a game I generally use my PC. The P6 plays the little games perfectly.
Even Qualcomms new mid range 1.4ghz quad core processor is getting better antutu scores
http://androidcommunity.com/qualcom...rocessor-aimed-at-mid-range-devices-20131101/
I hope trace is right in that the kernal and so on are messed up by Huawei and hence the Huawei processors underperforming than what it really can. But more than games im actually looking out for the processor doing something special using up its unique capabilities like 64bit memory, more cores, and so on. Thereby allowing features like touchless control and advanced programming capabilities, better user interface performance and better battery management. Phones like Moto x and iPhones seem to perform much advanced even though they don't carry the highest end specs. And I would like such smart performance.
4 part series in-depth look into Vivante GPU:
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/09/11/vivante-gpu-tech-2d-uis/
Another review:
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Vivante-Challenging-the-Status-Quo-In-Mobile-GPUs/
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4 part series in-depth look into Vivante GPU:
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/09/11/vivante-gpu-tech-2d-uis/
Another review:
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Vivante-Challenging-the-Status-Quo-In-Mobile-GPUs/
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Nice.
P6 has 64bit Memory Hardware, but its scaled down to 32bits while processing cause Java cant use
Phone Hardware is a beast even if GPU based on Adreno200. This is 16Core, orginal Adreno200 is 1-2Core.
Dual sim version
Is huawei ascend P6 dual sim version released???
This GPU is really good in physics, better then my wifes optimus g with adreno 320. And if u run YouiLabs Shader Test, adreno wont even start the BALL test. Looks like adreno cant handle it. So this gpu seems be great in shaders and physics.

[Q] G3 Performance in real life

Hi Guys am about to drop my older device Galaxy S2 and consider buying a brand new LG G3
but am a bit worry about the performance in real life because of the big screen and the 2K resolution and the heavy software skin
i watch several youtube videos but none of them give me a good idea about the performance
so can you plz help me is there lot of lags that lead to a bad experience or it's just from time to time
i also want to know about gaming is the experience smooth or not
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Hi Guys am about to drop my older device Galaxy S2 and consider buying a brand new LG G3
but am a bit worry about the performance in real life because of the big screen and the 2K resolution and the heavy software skin
i watch several youtube videos but none of them give me a good idea about the performance
so can you plz help me is there lot of lags that lead to a bad experience or it's just from time to time
i also want to know about gaming is the experience smooth or not
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On latest firmwares - from time to time
Heavy 3d games - like, Real Racing 3 or GTA san andreas - are unplayable.
P.S. I still use my old s3 from time to time
YaDr said:
On latest firmwares - from time to time
Heavy 3d games - like, Real Racing 3 or GTA san andreas - are unplayable.
P.S. I still use my old s3 from time to time
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@YaDr
even with the snapdragon 801 and the adreno 330 heavy 3D games are unplayable ??
shouldi consider a Z3
because i want to throw some 500 $ and i don't want a handset with lags
T-Rex said:
@YaDr
even with the snapdragon 801 and the adreno 330 heavy 3D games are unplayable ??
shouldi consider a Z3
because i want to throw some 500 $ and i don't want a handset with lags
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Well, not "unplayable" in usual sense. Thing is, this phone tends to overheat and slow down, and that causes FPS in GTA:SA and RR3 to drop to 20 or so -> which is far from smooth, but still playable.
And yeah, 2k resoltion is a bit too much for 330.
Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpjrGALfkiY

Question A72 and Dota Underlords

Hey there today I broke the screen of my Huawei P30 Pro,and now I am in need of a new phone and dont have a lot of money and I was considering A72,but the one and only thing that I am botherd with since its procesor is much weaker then that of my p30 pro, Can it run Dota underlords, it is literaly the only game I play and its a bit of an ritual for me,morning coffe and underlords. I chose A72 cause of price,big screen and watter resistance, and its curently on sale in one of the store in my country. Can someone test it pl for 20,30 mins on good graphic settings,or if someone by any chance already plays that game on the A72. I need fast reply cause the sale is only today,thank you in advance!
DOTA Underlords has like .. very low requirements, it can even run on 32-bit devices, 1.5 GB of RAM, ...
Consider seeing this video for A72 PUBG gameplay. Even the older A71 is a great choice.
Developers also optimize games for Snapdragon chips more than they do for Kirin chips, comparing a chip vs. chip isn't the same as comparing device vs. device.
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Hey there today I broke the screen of my Huawei P30 Pro,and now I am in need of a new phone and dont have a lot of money and I was considering A72,but the one and only thing that I am botherd with since its procesor is much weaker then that of my p30 pro, Can it run Dota underlords, it is literaly the only game I play and its a bit of an ritual for me,morning coffe and underlords. I chose A72 cause of price,big screen and watter resistance, and its curently on sale in one of the store in my country. Can someone test it pl for 20,30 mins on good graphic settings,or if someone by any chance already plays that game on the A72. I need fast reply cause the sale is only today,thank you in advance!
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I used to play this game, but now I switched to Auto chess, because Dota optimization was very upsetting (. You can read reviews in the market, everyone writes about poor optimization. I'll say this, it's not comfortable to play at high settings. The game is generally unoptimized.
A72 is not to say that the game. For this price, you can take a smartphone with a more powerful processor for games. A72 is still more about cameras

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