Best way to get new version from stock - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

So currently my device is running stock Rom and stock recovery that has a root flashed with Odin so I could manually edit framework on dmd5.
I was thinking of doing the same thing with the new version.
But as I understand it any modification will break the Knox Samsung function and cause issues and can't be reverted.
What would be the best way of getting a stock upgrade with just root?
Probably best to flash a custom recovery and just run a specific stock Rom or is there a way to do this with Odin still?
I so far haven't been able to find a way to do that.
Basically I just would like a stock Rom since I use WiFi calling and would like a modified framework to enable tethering bypass and Bluetooth tethering with it.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time.

TheArtiszan said:
So currently my device is running stock Rom and stock recovery that has a root flashed with Odin so I could manually edit framework on dmd5.
I was thinking of doing the same thing with the new version.
But as I understand it any modification will break the Knox Samsung function and cause issues and can't be reverted.
What would be the best way of getting a stock upgrade with just root?
Probably best to flash a custom recovery and just run a specific stock Rom or is there a way to do this with Odin still?
I so far haven't been able to find a way to do that.
Basically I just would like a stock Rom since I use WiFi calling and would like a modified framework to enable tethering bypass and Bluetooth tethering with it.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
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Search for and read on Doc Holiday's thread for Leaked Stock 4.3 update with KNOX Removed.

Oh okay.
I found his thread.
Basically just put on a custom recovery and let it hit the flash counter
then install his rom I guess?

TheArtiszan said:
Oh okay.
I found his thread.
Basically just put on a custom recovery and let it hit the flash counter
then install his rom I guess?
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For right now yes, this is the best solution.
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Newb Question

I want to root my phone to get WiFi tether.
I am confused. What is the best way to root the phone? I see a Zedomax Vid on youtube which links to a "version 1" file.
Can anyone post a link for the best way to root right now?
If I root the phone, is that the same as installing a custom ROM?
I want a custom rom eventually once they have been worked out a bit longer.
Right now, I just want to be rooted for wifi tether.
Thanks in advance and sorry for such basic questions, but I am getting a bit confused I as read through the forums.
My main concern with rooting the ET4g is the flash counter that I have read about here. I had my evo4g rooted so I'm not new to this but I am for the ET4g...Do these pre-rooted kernals replace the stock kernal? Will there eventually be a method to keep the stock kernal and root the phone? Will there be a way to bypass the flash counter built into the rooting process/a custom ROM? I want to have those questions answered before I root my phone b/c I don't want something to go wrong and then I can't get it replaced through sprint. The only reason I would want root is for wifi tethering...custom roms maybe but at this point I see no reason aside from random bugs that I would need a custom rom. Anyways sorry to jack this thread. I figured it was a similar question.
Edit: And maybe this thread should be moved into the questions section
painkillaz said:
My main concern with rooting the ET4g is the flash counter that I have read about here. I had my evo4g rooted so I'm not new to this but I am for the ET4g...Do these pre-rooted kernals replace the stock kernal? Will there eventually be a method to keep the stock kernal and root the phone? Will there be a way to bypass the flash counter built into the rooting process/a custom ROM? I want to have those questions answered before I root my phone b/c I don't want something to go wrong and then I can't get it replaced through sprint. The only reason I would want root is for wifi tethering...custom roms maybe but at this point I see no reason aside from random bugs that I would need a custom rom. Anyways sorry to jack this thread. I figured it was a similar question.
Edit: And maybe this thread should be moved into the questions section
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You can flash a rooted kernel, then flash the stock to get back to the stock kernel and still be rooted. Both kernels are available in the developers section of this site. As far as the flash count goes - I'm not sure if there is a way to reset the counter.
chunology said:
You can flash a rooted kernel, then flash the stock to get back to the stock kernel and still be rooted. Both kernels are available in the developers section of this site. As far as the flash count goes - I'm not sure if there is a way to reset the counter.
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Yes there is its called a jig ..... Google samsung usb jig they are cheap but there are 2 counters and there may be no way to wipe the 2nd one
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azmtbiker said:
I want to root my phone to get WiFi tether.
I am confused. What is the best way to root the phone? I see a Zedomax Vid on youtube which links to a "version 1" file.
Can anyone post a link for the best way to root right now?
If I root the phone, is that the same as installing a custom ROM?
I want a custom rom eventually once they have been worked out a bit longer.
Right now, I just want to be rooted for wifi tether.
Thanks in advance and sorry for such basic questions, but I am getting a bit confused I as read through the forums.
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Use Zedomax's method - I only say this because he includes the flash utility (ODIN) and a rooted .tar as well as a helpful step by step video.
You do NOT need to install a custom ROM to root - you can use odin to flash just the kernel.
chunology said:
Use Zedomax's method - I only say this because he includes the flash utility (ODIN) and a rooted .tar as well as a helpful step by step video.
You do NOT need to install a custom ROM to root - you can use odin to flash just the kernel.
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Thanks for the reply. Should i use the method as on youtube with "version 1" link or is there an updated version?
azmtbiker said:
Thanks for the reply. Should i use the method as on youtube with "version 1" link or is there an updated version?
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Go HERE and use that version.. it is just the rooted stock kernel with a few tweaks. There are also links in that thread for ODIN (the flash utility) and Samsung Kies (you'll need to install this to obtain the proper drivers for your device) as well as a step by step method.

[Q] updating to UAMDL with root

I'm rooted with a custom recovery running M919UVUAMDB. Is there an easy way for me to update to M919UVUAMDL. When I tried the ota it said my phone has been modified and wouldn't proceed. I've been reading about people having issues rooting their phone after the they updated, so I'm thinking it may not be worth it to update at this time. I'm hoping I can just flash somthing to bring my phone up to date without the root blocking that was implemented in UAMDL. I have been having some issues and hope the update would resolve them. Can someone steer me in the right direction please? Thanks
electricjelly said:
I'm rooted with a custom recovery running M919UVUAMDB. Is there an easy way for me to update to M919UVUAMDL. When I tried the ota it said my phone has been modified and wouldn't proceed. I've been reading about people having issues rooting their phone after the they updated, so I'm thinking it may not be worth it to update at this time. I'm hoping I can just flash somthing to bring my phone up to date without the root blocking that was implemented in UAMDL. I have been having some issues and hope the update would resolve them. Can someone steer me in the right direction please? Thanks
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I have the same question.
As do I. I'm thinking it'll be a flash via Kies, then re-flash TWRP, install the custom kernel and re-root.
darkjedi said:
As do I. I'm thinking it'll be a flash via Kies, then re-flash TWRP, install the custom kernel and re-root.
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Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
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aLdaRiS said:
Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
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I thought some of the stock rooted firmwares were zipped and could be flashed via recovery.... (why I didn't think of doing this on the old GS4 I have no idea, prolly because I wanted to keep my recovery stock -shrug-)
Either way wouldn't you need to get Triangle Away?
adventure_of_link said:
I thought some of the stock rooted firmwares were zipped and could be flashed via recovery.... (why I didn't think of doing this on the old GS4 I have no idea, prolly because I wanted to keep my recovery stock -shrug-)
Either way wouldn't you need to get Triangle Away?
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I'm not sure what you're taking about lol
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aLdaRiS said:
I'm not sure what you're taking about lol
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...in other words, isn't it possible to find a custom firmware that you can flash through recovery? (or since this is Samsung land, is this all through Odin? I remember on my Evo 3D I could find new custom firmwares in zip files and flash from recovery.)
and Triangle Away resets some kind of counter specific to some Samsung phones relating to custom firmwares.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
adventure_of_link said:
...in other words, isn't it possible to find a custom firmware that you can flash through recovery? (or since this is Samsung land, is this all through Odin? I remember on my Evo 3D I could find new custom firmwares in zip files and flash from recovery.)
and Triangle Away resets some kind of counter specific to some Samsung phones relating to re-installs.
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he said he's already rooted and already has a custom recovery... so basically he needs to find a rom that is stock MDL but rooted(there are 2 in the and development forum) and flash it. that's it. I'm not sure why they wanted to update through Odin it kinda makes no sense.. cos they it'd be stock uprooted and then they'd have to root it again. AFAIK triangle away it's only used to reset the counter on the bootloader to see that you haven't installed any custom recoveries which you would only need if you were to send the phone back to tmo to have it exchanged. Otherwise you don't really need Odin unless you **** up a flash and then need to bring it back to stock fw and then root it again and do the whole process basically ODIN brings your phone back from a soft brick.
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aLdaRiS said:
Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
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Has nothing to do with lazy. I ended up upgrading via Kies, flashing the custom kernel and then rooting.

Help with an easy way to flash an upgrade

I am trying to find the easiest way possible for someone to flash the updated md4 stock rom. This person is already rooted. They want to upgrade so they will have multiwindow. They are in another city so I cant do it myself. I remember Treve has a rom that backs up your rom before it flashes the unrooted stock. I was wondering is there something similar to that but will flash the rooted latest stock?
Here is the thread with the md4 modem/baseband. I've never seen a ROM that makes a back up for you. You can make nandroid while in recovery. That will be the back up you need in the event of a problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32152586
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mystery_tx_man said:
I am trying to find the easiest way possible for someone to flash the updated md4 stock rom. This person is already rooted. They want to upgrade so they will have multiwindow. They are in another city so I cant do it myself. I remember Treve has a rom that backs up your rom before it flashes the unrooted stock. I was wondering is there something similar to that but will flash the rooted latest stock?
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Using ODIN is the best way to go. This link explains everything. All that person needs to know is how to open the ODIN, select file under PDA option and click Start.
mystery_tx_man said:
I am trying to find the easiest way possible for someone to flash the updated md4 stock rom. This person is already rooted. They want to upgrade so they will have multiwindow. They are in another city so I cant do it myself. I remember Treve has a rom that backs up your rom before it flashes the unrooted stock. I was wondering is there something similar to that but will flash the rooted latest stock?
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Forget using Odin, your friends s3 is already rooted no need to go through all that useless work.
The easiest way is to flash Freezas prerooted stock md4 rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32176586
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[Q] Plz Help 4.3 down to 4.1.2. rooted tried a few

So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon
mentorkyrom said:
So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon
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The 4.3 OTA installed a locked bootloader, which will prevent you from ODIN'ing back to a previous version. you can flash any ROM you would like from recovery, you CANNOT downgrade the bootloader. As of right now, if you have knox, you are stuck with it.
You are extremely lucky that you didn't brick your phone by using odin to flash a non-4.3 tar. I wouldnt try again.
My advice is, remain rooted with a custom recovery, and find a ROM to your liking, and flash that.
I have also heard that we cannot flash custom kernels on the knox (MK3) bootloader as well, but I havent verified that.
eletendre84 said:
The 4.3 OTA installed a locked bootloader, which will prevent you from ODIN'ing back to a previous version. you can flash any ROM you would like from recovery, you CANNOT downgrade the bootloader. As of right now, if you have knox, you are stuck with it.
You are extremely lucky that you didn't brick your phone by using odin to flash a non-4.3 tar. I wouldnt try again.
My advice is, remain rooted with a custom recovery, and find a ROM to your liking, and flash that.
I have also heard that we cannot flash custom kernels on the knox (MK3) bootloader as well, but I havent verified that.
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Thank you for the response. Is CyanogenMod an option then? If I go to CM could I flash back a stock 4.3 rom in the future?
As an added bonus question does CM allow wifi tethering?
Again thank you for the response.
mentorkyrom said:
Thank you for the response. Is CyanogenMod an option then? If I go to CM could I flash back a stock 4.3 rom in the future?
As an added bonus question does CM allow wifi tethering?
Again thank you for the response.
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CM is certainly an option. In fact, its what i am running now. CM11 12-24. Runs great. You can always odin the stock mk3 tar and go back to stock unrooted, at any time.
in order to flash cm11 you MUST be on TWRP 2.6.3.1 or CWM 6.0.4.5 or newer or the assert check will fail.
not sure on the tethering, but im pretty sure it definitely works on cm10.2 and i think it does on 11 as well, but dont quote me on that.
eletendre84 said:
CM is certainly an option. In fact, its what i am running now. CM11 12-24. Runs great. You can always odin the stock mk3 tar and go back to stock unrooted, at any time.
in order to flash cm11 you MUST be on TWRP 2.6.3.1 or CWM 6.0.4.5 or newer or the assert check will fail.
not sure on the tethering, but im pretty sure it definitely works on cm10.2 and i think it does on 11 as well, but dont quote me on that.
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Tethering is available on CM11 just like it was on 10.2; would strongly recommend latest Philz Touch Recovery over either TWRP or CWM though. Although it is based on CWM, it has proven to be pretty much the superior recovery option for flashing any Android build number, plus it is highly customizable.
Philz Touch Recovery
this is how to downgrade
mentorkyrom said:
So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon
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do a factory data reset then use odin auto root from computer ok...... after boot u will get a security message supersu will be unfortunately stopping this is ok..... then u will need to download the supersu.app to root of sd then manually install this will update it and now u can turn off knox and have root... then go to market and download odin mobile then flash your .tar file u want and you will be good to go 4.1.2 doesn't have knox and has a unlocked bootloader so have fun bro this method may work for other phones
smuther22 said:
do a factory data reset then use odin auto root from computer ok...... after boot u will get a security message supersu will be unfortunately stopping this is ok..... then u will need to download the supersu.app to root of sd then manually install this will update it and now u can turn off knox and have root... then go to market and download odin mobile then flash your .tar file u want and you will be good to go 4.1.2 doesn't have knox and has a unlocked bootloader so have fun bro this method may work for other phones
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Do you realize that this thread hasn't been used in a couple of months? I would assume the author has no more need of advice based on the inactivity. Also, once Knox is installed, it is on the phone to stay. PERIOD. NO DOWNGRADING POSSIBLE VIA ODIN. Custom ROMs of any build are fine via custom recovery, but any attempt to change the bootloader will trigger Knox and brick the phone. Dangerous info to be posting here, especially since someone else who doesn't know better might try this.

Okay to upgrade from 4.1.2?

New to this phone and I am running 4.1.2 there is a system update a 4.3 that's already downloaded and ready to install but I wanted to make sure the update didn't install any new locks on my phone before I accept. I plan on rooting soon.
Thanks
Rich
U get knox but there are ways to still root with knox so go ahead update
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Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.
tx_dbs_tx said:
Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.
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If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
I Would Accept It.
doubledragon5 said:
If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.
flashred said:
If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.
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If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...
doubledragon5 said:
If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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doubledragon5 said:
If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...
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Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
flashred said:
Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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I'm wondering the same thing. But if we root then accept the OTA won't that enable the knox counter? So that if we now, "flash away".... won't every flash be counted?
Shouldn't we root, then install the custom roms without the knox? Or do the custom roms also include the knox counter tripping mechanism?
I would like to know how this works also.
Thanks.
I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.
Stock 4.3 Deodexed, deknoxed, Rooted Rom Available?
lovekeiiy said:
I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.
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So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.
flashred said:
Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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Sorry for not getting back sooner. I have been busy with work, and family things.Use billards return to full stock with counter reset. It installs everything including recovery, boot loader,firemware etc... Then set up your phone, when prompt accept the ota update.. Once done retoot, and flash what ever 4.3 rom you want.. The knox counter will still be there, but if you need a trip back to Sprint, go back to Full MC2 stock, knox counter will no longer be there.. Most 4.3 room do not include the Knox files so no worries there.
flashred said:
So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.
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Sounds like it. The odd part, I have been able to flash Reject's stock deoxidezed deknoxed rom with no problem. I tried to flash Classic 3, but it froze on Classic's initial loading page (the one after the Samsung boot loader). I had issues another rom, but turned out it was for the international model; I wasn't paying attention where I was in the forums.
If you do what I did, you'll need to flash modem update using Odin on the PC. So, you may need to download Odin.
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Depending on what you like to do, you may find 4.3 MK4 more limiting, espcially on the TouchWiz side. AOSP probably more mod friendly at this point. From what I've been able to find, there is only one custom kernal for 4.3 TouchWiz which is Devil's Kernal. It's solid, but my phone was unstable. Not sure if the phone since I may have taken out something it used when I was trying to debloat the phone. Didn't care for his Kernel Tweak manager. Neither the stock or devil's kernal supports Stweaks. Neither I could figure out how to change the boat loading animation.
I have nothing against AOSP projects. I like them. But as far as I know, none support the Spen, which I like to use with web browsers. Don't use the Samnsung Spen apps. Just wasn't that impressed with them, but I see how they can be useful. Although, SketchPro is really nice with it. I just find TouchWiz is more than sufficient for my needs and stock isn't as quirky.

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