I purchased my brand new note 10.1 2014 edition 1.5 weeks back (India) and I have been experiencing random rebooting. There was a minor update but that didn't do the trick either. The frequency of reboot seems random (once every 2 days) to 4-5 times a day. I followed multiple posts of various threads and tweaked my Wifi settings, disable auto updates etc but I still see occasional hanging and automatic rebooting
Would like to know if someone is facing similar problems or is there a way to fix this or atleast debug as to consistently reproduce this error. I don't know how I will convince my Samsung service centre as there is no apparent pattern to this. I also did adb logcat on my PC when it crashed but apparently I have no clue what it is throwing at me..
Thanks for your help
Have you tried removing the ext sdcard and monitor if the restart still occurs?
bruce16878 said:
Have you tried removing the ext sdcard and monitor if the restart still occurs?
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Thanks for your prompt response. I don't have ext SDCard or SIM inserted currently in my device
arvinds123 said:
Thanks for your prompt response. I don't have ext SDCard or SIM inserted currently in my device
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I took my devide to Samsung service center who re-flashed the firmware but the problem still persists. I notice that restarts occur mainly when apps are updating by Playstore over Wi-Fi connection. Later, after all the updates it restarts when I am using Youtube/Chrome or Stock browser. If I don't update apps the restarts are infrequent/non-existent. Is this a Wifi problem or google app problem? How can I debug and share a trace file with the communiyt? Can some one help me out
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How can I debug and share a trace file with the communiyt? Can some one help me out
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Yes, there is a debugging function. I will add a description later the day (if nobody else was faster).
But when this also happens after a refresh, I would expect a hardware issue. We will see.
EDIT:
I first checked that logcat is enabled on the device: okay
Now you need to install adb on your pc (if you don't did it already). The adb-tool is a part of the Android SDK (by example here) but you only need the platform-tools which includes adb.
Connect the device via USB to your computer and running the following command:
Code:
adb shell "logcat | grep AndroidRuntime" >logcat.txt
(from where you install dab, from a bash, terminal, command line)
This command will log all critical debug output from your android device in this logcat.txt file.
Now you have to wait for a restart (you can use the Note as normal but didn't connect from the computer)
You can stop the command from above (after the unnormal restart)
Post here the result (as attachment) when you didn't see anything in the file by yourself and I will look into it. And maybe send me a PM so I am aware of your post here
Thanks a lot for your prompt response. I immediately tried out your suggestion..Connected to my PC and did what you instructed. I opened the stock browser and was surfing xda forum and soon enough the freeze and restart occured..Pls find the contents of logcat.txt below
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D/AndroidRuntime( 6828): D/AndroidRuntime( 6828): >>>>>>
AndroidRuntime START com.android.internal.os.RuntimeInit
<<<<<<D/AndroidRuntime( 6828): CheckJNI is
OFFD/AndroidRuntime( 6828): setted country_code =
UAED/AndroidRuntime( 6828): setted countryiso_code =
AED/AndroidRuntime( 6828): setted sales_code =
XSGD/AndroidRuntime( 6828): readGMSProperty:
startD/AndroidRuntime( 6828): readGMSProperty: already
setted!!D/AndroidRuntime( 6828): readGMSProperty:
endD/AndroidRuntime( 6828): addProductProperty:
startD/AndroidRuntime( 6828): Calling main entry
com.android.commands.am.AmD/AndroidRuntime( 6828):
Shutting down VMD/AndroidRuntime( 6856):
D/AndroidRuntime( 6856): >>>>>>
AndroidRuntime START com.android.internal.os.RuntimeInit
<<<<<<D/AndroidRuntime( 6856): CheckJNI is
OFFD/AndroidRuntime( 6856): setted country_code =
UAED/AndroidRuntime( 6856): setted countryiso_code =
AED/AndroidRuntime( 6856): setted sales_code =
XSGD/AndroidRuntime( 6856): readGMSProperty:
startD/AndroidRuntime( 6856): readGMSProperty: already
setted!!D/AndroidRuntime( 6856): readGMSProperty:
endD/AndroidRuntime( 6856): addProductProperty:
startD/AndroidRuntime( 6856): Calling main entry com.android.commands.am.AmD/AndroidRuntime( 6856): Shutting down VM
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See if this helps..Let me know if you require me to do anything else
arvinds123 said:
Thanks a lot for your prompt response.
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So fat, nothing unusual.
Try now without filtering via grep:
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adb shell "logcat" > logcat.txt
And this time didn't post the results here as text because this will be now megabytes but add it as attachment. Thx.
PS. "com.android.commands.am.Am" is the main activity manager and here something pops up which then terminate the parent process. This can be normal or anything. Therefore we have to see what really happens here.
I was having the issue with my SM-P601. It turns out it was using the travel wallpaper on the lock screen that was causing it. Once I went to another stock wallpaper my device hasn't rebooted since. If you're not using the travel wallpaper you might want to play around with your home and lock screen wallpapers to see if it has any affect.
Hi all,
Thanks for all inputs, I'm also facing the same issue as the OP so I hope we can find solutions for this because this is a great tablet and all. I just tried change Wallpaper & lockscreen as the poster above suggested. Hopefully this cure the random freeze/reboot.
BarryH_GEG said:
It turns out it was using the travel wallpaper on the lock screen that was causing it.
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I am also you this without and reboots until now. But the day it starts, I will remember your post
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So fat, nothing unusual.
Try now without filtering via grep:
Code:
adb shell "logcat" > logcat.txt
And this time didn't post the results here as text because this will be now megabytes but add it as attachment. Thx.
PS. "com.android.commands.am.Am" is the main activity manager and here something pops up which then terminate the parent process. This can be normal or anything. Therefore we have to see what really happens here.
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I did that for 4 hours.. No reboots and no reboots since.. It has been 15 hours and no reboots. Really surprising. I always have had the stock wallpaper so that could not have been the issue. This is weirdest issue I have seen with an Android device in years.
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I did that for 4 hours.. No reboots and no reboots since.. It has been 15 hours and no reboots. Really surprising. I always have had the stock wallpaper so that could not have been the issue. This is weirdest issue I have seen with an Android device in years.
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After observing the tablet over a week. I found out the random restart occurs mainly due to auto-downloading of apps. I had disabled auto updates in Googe Play/Samsung Apps but it rebooted again when Google Now began downloaded offline voice files automatically after 72 hours of use. Clearly looks like a software issue. Has anybody noticed a similar problem on other samsung devices (looks like not many have a Wifi + 3G SM-P601 model here).
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After observing the tablet over a week. I found out the random restart occurs mainly due to auto-downloading of apps. I had disabled auto updates in Googe Play/Samsung Apps but it rebooted again when Google Now began downloaded offline voice files automatically after 72 hours of use. Clearly looks like a software issue. Has anybody noticed a similar problem on other samsung devices (looks like not many have a Wifi + 3G SM-P601 model here).
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In my case, I found that tablet reboot when installing/update apps from play store will the SanDisk 64gb sd card was in. So I just exchange the sd card with Samsung 64gb and no more reboot during update / installation.
funfun99999 said:
In my case, I found that tablet reboot when installing/update apps from play store will the SanDisk 64gb sd card was in. So I just exchange the sd card with Samsung 64gb and no more reboot during update / installation.
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However I don't have an extSDCard or a SIM Card inserted. Is it expecting one and that's why it's crashing? I am so disappointed with this tablet..Wants me to run back to the iPad
I have same problem after root and use gsm voice call with callrecorder app and bluetooth but after reconfigure callrecorder app to api, no more random reboot.
After tried to change lockscreen & wallpaper I still facing randomly rebooted. I also tried with Dolphin browser & Chrome and both got rebooted while surfing too. There were time after it got rebooted and loaded to lockscreen where I begin put in lockscreen pattern password and then it hung and rebooted again. However after the 2nd in a row rebooted it managed to not reboot again for couples hours. I disabled auto update in both playstore and Samsung hub but still got rebooted. So hopefully someone who managed to fix this permanently detailing their methods would be helpful for us. Thanks
I have SM-P601, it has sudden reboot after completing setup, and then stuck at samsung logo, I tried recover with Kies but still the same, so tomorrow will have to take it to the Samsung service center. Very dissappointed with this Samsung build
Experiencing reboot issues
Hi I purchased my 2014 edition approx 2 months ago from best buy. I'm now experiencing reboots issues and issues with my screen going to sleep. When powering on the device, it boots up to the login screen or sometimes just the Samsung logo and then reboot several times. After it reboots the device allows me to log in; however if I don't type in my password Fast enough the screen goes to sleep and I can not wake it up by pressing the center button. I have to do a hard reset, and go through the process again. Also after I'm finally able to log In, I have my device set to go to sleep after 30 mind of no use. This is to prevent it from going to sleep too soon if I need to throw it in my bag as the train approaches, or I want to listen to some music; however once it goes to sleep I'm not able to wake it with the center button, and again have to do a hard reset.
I'm a poor artist and I wanted the best tablet to consolidate devices and be my all in one, So far this tablet has been bad ass! I could not afford the insurance and rely on a Tucan case from frys to protect her. I want my baby back to her normal self. How do I get this issued fixed? I'm already salty she has a tiny crack in the corner from me following the YouTube video on how to remove her case. I did that because I wanted to see if there was any debris under the power button that was causing it to reboot.
Thanks All.
Sorry to bump an old thread...but i just bought the p600 model..second hand. It was rooted with supersu and it would reboot randomly but especially when auto updating apps and browsing the web with chrome.
I seem to have fixed the issue. First thing i did was undoing the root. However..i noticed that supersu could not be uninstalled at all even when the rooting had been reversed.
I proceeded to apply another version of the official firmware..(used odin 3.07 and got the firmware from sammymobile) i think i had a xac version (or something like that) from april with kitkat 4.4.2....and i went for a bov version from june with 4.4.2 kit kat. I was now able to uninstall supersu like any other app.
I have not experienced another random reboot since then...and ive been browsing the web with chrome. Ive also had apps autoupdating.
The only difference i can perceive now is that i did not have the peel app used to control the tv and now it was preloaded. Also..the first time i booted the tablet after applying the new firmware i got this 'apps being optimized' message.
Hopefully this helps.
sorry for the double posting
the issue came back, after months of experimentation the only thing that gave me some stability was using the hydronium rom. I never got rid of reboots 100%, but with this rom the device was usable. I don't know if it's because of the rom itself or because it includes thomas' kitkat reboot fix for galaxy s4. "thofmann.blogspot.de/2014/07/fixing-random-reboots-on-samsung-kitkat.html"
I tried his reboot fix with the stock rom but it never worked. so I stuck with hydronium, lesser evil of all.
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Is anyone else having this issue yet? I have asked this on the rom development page and it seems that I may be the only one experincing this.
I have NRG's 10\28 rom loaded and I have removed many of my installed programs and I can not get the Office programs to load quickly. I have Nrg's rom 10\17 or so loaded on my wife's phone but hers doesnt seem to be doing this.
I am suspecting that it is something that I am installing that is doing this but I am not sure.
I have even downloaded the office 2010 beta today and it stil does it.
It does stop doing it for about a half a day if I reboot many times till it behaves, but then after about a half a day, it is back to taking more than 60 seconds to open word or excell, then about 20 ot 25 seconds to close it.
Any ideas??
Thank you all for looking at this.
Jeff
Takes no more than a few seconds max on my Tilt 2, I don't know man.
Same porb here, i dont think its a ROM issue as it did the same thing on most of the roms i flash. i just thought i was a WM thingi, and the worst part is it takes near 10 sec to open a NEW word doc..
ahmadashar said:
Same porb here, i dont think its a ROM issue as it did the same thing on most of the roms i flash. i just thought i was a WM thingi, and the worst part is it takes near 10 sec to open a NEW word doc..
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Finally, someone else is also having this issue.
I have a slightly older version of the Energy rom on my wife's phone and hers is always fast to open.
I have been uninstalling programs one by one to see if one of them is affecting it.
What I have found is that as I install a couple, it will start working good, then a a few hours later, it goes to 1 min to open again.
And I am not even opening a file, just click on the excell icon, so that eliminates the bad file thing.
I will let you know what I find.
So do you have many apps installed? I have a lot, to many to mention here at this time, but if you only have a few, please list them and I will see if there are any in common between us.
Thanks,
Jeff
I had this problem on my AT&T Tilt 1 a long time ago. I was able to isolate the cause of the problem to sending/receiving Email over mobile data (wouldn't happen if the update was via wifi). Unfortunately the only thing that solved my problem was a hard reset .
brad_wp said:
I had this problem on my AT&T Tilt 1 a long time ago. I was able to isolate the cause of the problem to sending/receiving Email over mobile data (wouldn't happen if the update was via wifi). Unfortunately the only thing that solved my problem was a hard reset .
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interesting you mentioned wifi, i just observed today that it does not take a long time to open when i am on wifi, then i switched to no wifi, and it was taking lont time to open excel.
turned wifi back on and sure enough, excell opened quickly.
i then turnrd off my wifi network plugin, (disabled my map network drive) and now it seems to be opening excell just fine reguardless of wifi or not.
i will continue to test this ane report back.
innovator8 said:
interesting you mentioned wifi, i just observed today that it does not take a long time to open when i am on wifi, then i switched to no wifi, and it was taking lont time to open excel.
turned wifi back on and sure enough, excell opened quickly.
i then turnrd off my wifi network plugin, (disabled my map network drive) and now it seems to be opening excell just fine reguardless of wifi or not.
i will continue to test this ane report back.
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Office Mobile looks for any files of the appropriate type (e.g., *.doc files for Word) on your device to open prior to loading. Before reading this last comment I was going to suggest removing your storage card, but if you have network drives mapped it's probably attempting to reach those while loading but timing out if they're not available.
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Office Mobile looks for any files of the appropriate type (e.g., *.doc files for Word) on your device to open prior to loading. Before reading this last comment I was going to suggest removing your storage card, but if you have network drives mapped it's probably attempting to reach those while loading but timing out if they're not available.
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So as long as I dont have my "enable Network Folder" clicked on the HTC's Network Plugin, it all works good. As soon as I click that, and enable the network folder, then it takes forever to open office unless I have the wifi turned on.
Man I have been fighting this for months, not sure if it was a rom thing or something that I was intalling.
I hope that others who have this issue can find this post and fix thier stuff too.
Here some searchable key words, pleae add if I am missing:
Office Microsoft Excell Word forever long time
Just got my HTC Desire today and everything is working fine apart from the android market. I have 3 problems:
1) I don't have the paid apps tab only top free and just in. I can see paid apps within the just in section, but not top paid apps.
2) When I clock on the install button I get a blank screen with just the background gui showing for at least 10-20 seconds before the confirmation screen that shows what permissions the app needs is finally shown.
3) Apps install correctly however they never get removed from the "currently downloading" list in the Downloads section of the android market.
I got the phone through virgin mobile and I am currently using a t-mobile sim in it. I have tried doing a factory reset which didn't solve the problem.
Anyone had any similar issues?
Liam
Please search before posting.
Your problems will be solved by removing t-mobile content lock. It can be done through their website or by calling customer service.
One problem will remain though: so far no one can see copy-protected apps because market is not recognizing our build number. It should be solved soon though.
Hi,
The phone actually came from Virgin Mobile, but for the moment I am using my old T-Mobile sim which used to be in my G1 which didn't have any problems with the market. I seem to remember de-activating the content lock when I used the browser for the first time on my g1.
I just checked on my t-mobile account details and I definitely have the content lock turned off.
I still have the same problem with the market, i.e. I get about 20 seconds of blank screen after clicking install before the permission confirmation details come up.
And after an app is installed it still shows in the download section as installing with the grey progress bar and doesn't disappear unless I go to the settings/Applications and clear the cache in download manager, market and force close the market app.
Anyone have any similar problems? I have done a full factory reset three times, still the same problems.
Liam
I just got mine, its a open one unbranded. I can neither connect to gtalk or download apps, both hang. I have read similar problems for the Droid, but the fixes dont work for me.
Also can you connect the device to the internet via the PC, like windows mobile ?
That's odd. My problems were solved by removing content lock.
Does the same thing happen on WiFi? Did you try to restart the device?
Regarding PC to phone tethering, it's not possible over USB. There are guides on how to do it over WiFi though.
Its the same for me : confirmed that content lock is off.
and still have this problem.
On Tmobile, upgraded from G1, same sim.
I get this on wifi or not.
If I restart the device, the Market Place states its installed correctly (like it should do). But installing another shows the same problem.
I've done a Factory Reset via the menu and that did solve it.
And I've just phoned tmo tech support, and they recommend resetting via fastboot.
I'll give that a go later, and post back the results.
Any other ideas?
Its really weird. Yesterday at a different wifi location it worked fine. But again its not working in work. I assume then the downloads are being blocked by the service provider, or the router.
Thats really crap you cannot connect to the internet via the USB cable like in windows mobile. I cant get my data service working either - so in work I have to work.
ok, I did a clear storage from the fastboot menu, I assumed that what he meant, had no effect.
but figured it out!!!!!!
its my gmail/Google account thats the problem! if I reset the phone and created a new account it works fine. log back in as me, bang. back as previously created new account, fine.
1. is this the same for other people?
2. the people who are having this problem, are you all previous Android users?
3. if so, what phone? me was G1.
I will have to raise a bug with android or google on this.
I now also have to ring back tmo and tell them this info, as I'm guessing by his language he want to take the phone back in.
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Its really weird. Yesterday at a different wifi location it worked fine. But again its not working in work. I assume then the downloads are being blocked by the service provider, or the router.
Thats really crap you cannot connect to the internet via the USB cable like in windows mobile. I cant get my data service working either - so in work I have to work.
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Beware that while most apps like gmail, calendar, contacts, etc work using port 80 (HTTP), both google talk and android market use different ports.
In my school network I can't connect to gtalk or download from market because they block those ports on the firewall.
I previously had a g1 and think the problems I was having had something to do with my gmail account but it seemed to resolve itself after several factory resets.
I am not convinced that the factory reset was what fixed it, I just think it needed a bit of time to sort itself out.
I wonder if having a new device with the same gmail account causes the issue and it takes a while to recognise the new device. though that doesn't really explain the behaviour I was seeing.
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I cannot find a way around this.
My google account shows the slowness and install problems, a test/temp/dummy/other account does not, I do not want to change my email address!
So I have emailed Google, see where that gets me.
Anyone know/think-of any other routes?
to: [email protected]
I am having problems with the Market on my new Desire. I previously had a G1.
1. When I select Downloads tab, it takes about 10 seconds before the loading text is displayed.
2. When selecting something to install, the 1st info page with the install button is displayed but with no info/text/etc, ie only the install button, again about a 10sec wait and the info shows fine.
3. When selecting install, the security confirm page is displayed but is blank, no text or buttons, another 10secs and its displayed.
4. If I actually go to install an app, it correctly redirects me back to the last market list page. From there if I go to Downloads, after the 10sec wait, it always states "installing", even when its finished, and pushed a notification up.
I can use the app, but the market always states installing. Even hours after. These all queue up and never clear.
Only rebooting the phone clears the installing app, and correctly marks them as installed.
5. Uninstalling app cannot be completed at all. I select uninstall, and it pops up the confirmation box, but then displays a blank page, and after the 10 or so seconds, displays the "Uninstalling application" with progress bar, but never completes. Again only a reboot corrects this.
All this occurs for any app.
I have done many Factory Resets from software, and Clear Storage from Fastboot.
Interestingly, my phone works corrected with a new account, I reset the phone and instead of signing in with my usual account, I created a new one, this worked very fast and correctly. Signing back in with my normal account again showed the same problems.
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same problem here, gone from a G1 to HTC desire not tryed to sign up with a new account simply becasue i had the xxxx.xxxgmail mail now for over 18 months and rely on it.
All I know is that the day after I got my Desire, probably about 24 hours after first turning it on (and after 4 factory resets which may have nothing to do with it) I was installing an app, which had the same problems i.e. delayed permissions screen, remaining in the download screen even after being installed succesfully, then a few minutes later I went to install another app and it was fine, no delay, suddenly I had the Top Paid apps tab and apps did not remain in the download section as still downloading. It has been fine ever since.
It seems that all of us who have this problem have had G1s previously so it must be something to do with that.
I experienced this issue with my new desire but not one with older rom. Both from T-Mobile. The funny thing was first day it was running pretty slow, could not view paid apps either but now it is much faster as it should be and paid apps have appeared too. So it's working brilliantly.
i have market problems too... i cant see many market apps, including paid apps which i bought..
it's a free desire with vodafone spain sim.
tito kastros said:
i have market problems too... i cant see may market apps, including paid apps which i bought..
it's a free desire with vodafone spain sim.
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That's a different issue, apparently Google have not yet added the HTC Desires "fingerprint" to some kind of database that enables access to apps with copy protection, this is why some apps you have previously purchased won't show up.
Apparently this happens with all new handsets, though why Google don't get this resolved before the phones release I don't know, as it doesn't give a great experience to the end user (HTC say they sent the fingerprint well before the phone was released but google haven't processed it yet).
Hopefully this should be resolved soon. Until then I have had to extract a few of my more regularly used protected apps from my G1 with root.
But it happens to me with free apps too.
tito kastros said:
But it happens to me with free apps too.
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Any application developer can choose to use copy protection, some free apps choose to do that.
Iam no longer able to install any software from market place and get the following message. "Can't get this information at the moment.Please try later.
What &why is this message about ?Please help.
Thanks
did you soft reset? Also, how long as this been happening?
I have reset(from about menus)two days ago. I have installed some softwares yesterday but sincetoday morning Iam continuously this message.
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I have reset(from about menus)two days ago. I have installed some softwares yesterday but sincetoday morning Iam continuously this message.
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maybe marketplace is acting up.
You need to be logged in to windows live on phone and computer i believe.
I've seen that message occasionally. Generally power cycling the phone solves it.
rob_p said:
I've seen that message occasionally. Generally power cycling the phone solves it.
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it's hasn't worked for me, i have reset my phone 3 times so far with countless power down cycles.
I have a sr with ms to see what's going on. I can download free apps but not paid apps, music, games etc.
waiting to hear from MS, lets see what happens.
I get this error from time to time when my Omnia switches from 3G to WiFi (and vice versa) A power cycle seems to be the only way to fix it.
same problem????????????
Have you enable cookies via settings? Try to uncheck that box, restart your phone and check it again.
May be also operator/network problem.
Very common thing indeed.
Check the regional settings on the device, on the computer with the Zune software and in your live account. If they are not the same you get this error message. I had the same problem and I was able to solve it due to the change of this settings.
I hope it will work for you too
i got this problem too! nothing you guys said has worked any other ideas?
Same problem here, looks like there is something going on with market.
Seems to be working now! i uninstalled some apps but could have been that it just decided to start working
that seems to be the fix. it was happening when the phone was trying to update the trial versions of apps. the only way to fix the problem is to delete the free trials... but that was a like a week ago n i havent ran into the problem again
Read in MS support forum there was some sever adjustment.
So I got this message again after rebooting my device. It's writen in german and says something like:
"We are sorry! The Application LGSystemServer has been closed".
After the error I can't do anything. It's reappearing so fast after clicking "ok", that I can't get into the settings or past the lock screen. Only a factory reset helps.
I'm still running stock android, no changes so far (root etc.). Had this problem with 2-3 GPads Devices before and exchanged them. But the problem still continues, so I think it's an app or settings problem.
After a factory reset I can restart normally for a while. I download my apps and change my settings. Then I don't reboot like for 1-2 weeks and get the problem again.
Before I try rebooting, I make sure I have a backup that I can restore. Had to use it today and restored. And no problem after same apps & settings from the backup. So far, but it will appear again, after a while I think.
Does anyone have a similiar problem or knows what the problem could be
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So I got this message again after rebooting my device. It's writen in german and says something like:
"We are sorry! The Application LGSystemServer has been closed".
Does anyone have a similiar problem or knows what the problem could be
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I have the same problem on my G-Pad. Wiped cache and dalvik, no help. Full wipe fixes the problem. I used also TWRP for full backup. Restoring the backup brings also the problem back.
Weird problem. Certainly software related.
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I have the same problem on my G-Pad. Wiped cache and dalvik, no help. Full wipe fixes the problem. I used also TWRP for full backup. Restoring the backup brings also the problem back.
Weird problem. Certainly software related.
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I have my device since Monday. I deleted some bloatware (after Root), and I had the same problem.
I found the solution in: [HOW-TO] The easiest way to unbrick your LG G Pad 8.3
It took about one hour and the problem has gone.
Good luck!
@Sylvia
Did the problem reappear after the installation? I had the problem a couple of times, appearing days after a factory reset.
Thought it was my Samsung 32GB MicroSD that was causing the problem. Because my sister had the same problem after we inserted the same microsd into her G Pad. In here case a factory reset did it and the probleme never occured again.
Right know I'm testing and writing down, every little change I do. To find the problem trigger. Maybe it is a coincidence, but I also did the "Update Recovery" with the LGMobile Tool yesterday. When the problem appeared, because I read it could help that way. It was still there after rebooting, so I did a factory reset like always. After that I tested after every major change. Did so far 18 Reboots and no problem.
I really hope that the software installed on the G Pad was causing the problem so far. To make sure, I formated the MicroSD card to exfat3 and then back to fat32 under Xubuntu-Live CD with GParted.
Another thought was with the constant writing/reading of my lecture note files every 2 min. of autosave, that are stored on the MicroSD card. And the index search every hour over the 9000 files by DropSync.
I really hope that was the solution.
Interesting coincidence
Interestingly, I have a same problem and same issue. I am using DropSync and LectureNote. Before I receive the same message, I always see a message in LectureNote saying "out of memory" or at least using LectureNote. I think it may be related with LectureNote. I am going to try with autosaving function deactivated.
If it continues, I may remove LectureNote from G Pad and observe how it goes.
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@Sylvia
Did the problem reappear after the installation? I had the problem a couple of times, appearing days after a factory reset.
Thought it was my Samsung 32GB MicroSD that was causing the problem. Because my sister had the same problem after we inserted the same microsd into her G Pad. In here case a factory reset did it and the probleme never occured again.
Right know I'm testing and writing down, every little change I do. To find the problem trigger. Maybe it is a coincidence, but I also did the "Update Recovery" with the LGMobile Tool yesterday. When the problem appeared, because I read it could help that way. It was still there after rebooting, so I did a factory reset like always. After that I tested after every major change. Did so far 18 Reboots and no problem.
I really hope that the software installed on the G Pad was causing the problem so far. To make sure, I formated the MicroSD card to exfat3 and then back to fat32 under Xubuntu-Live CD with GParted.
Another thought was with the constant writing/reading of my lecture note files every 2 min. of autosave, that are stored on the MicroSD card. And the index search every hour over the 9000 files by DropSync.
I really hope that was the solution.
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@namagile: Coincidence does not imply causality. The problem that you observe might surface by using LectureNotes, but this does not necessarily mean that LectureNotes is causing it.
I received a couple of similar reports, and in one case, the user sent the device logs to me. There were entries in the logs that a system service failed to start another system service, causing this error message that you see; why that tends to happen after LectureNotes usage is not clear. The user admitted that she/he deleted system software after rooting the device, which might be tempting but can lead to problems in case you delete the wrong things.
@acadoid,
I love LectureNote. I don't know/care how it happens, but every time my LG G pad crashed, LectureNote was being used and showed a strange behavior. Now, I deactivated 'auto-saving' and other options coming with a warning message "not to use if RAM is not big". We see how it goes. I hope/believe this may resolve an issue.
One tip for LectureNote. There are so many options available for a user to set -- please simplify and hide some of the options from a ordinary user like myself. It will be less intimidating to new users. Thanks.
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@namagile: Coincidence does not imply causality. The problem that you observe might surface by using LectureNotes, but this does not necessarily mean that LectureNotes is causing it.
I received a couple of similar reports, and in one case, the user sent the device logs to me. There were entries in the logs that a system service failed to start another system service, causing this error message that you see; why that tends to happen after LectureNotes usage is not clear. The user admitted that she/he deleted system software after rooting the device, which might be tempting but can lead to problems in case you delete the wrong things.
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@namagile: The options are certainly not to intimidate users but to empower them. All options have meaningful default values chosen such that LectureNotes works on essentially all Android devices without touching the settings.
But this is not the topic of this thread.
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So I got this message again after rebooting my device. It's writen in german and says something like:
"We are sorry! The Application LGSystemServer has been closed".
After the error I can't do anything. It's reappearing so fast after clicking "ok", that I can't get into the settings or past the lock screen. Only a factory reset helps.
I'm still running stock android, no changes so far (root etc.). Had this problem with 2-3 GPads Devices before and exchanged them. But the problem still continues, so I think it's an app or settings problem.
After a factory reset I can restart normally for a while. I download my apps and change my settings. Then I don't reboot like for 1-2 weeks and get the problem again.
Before I try rebooting, I make sure I have a backup that I can restore. Had to use it today and restored. And no problem after same apps & settings from the backup. So far, but it will appear again, after a while I think.
Does anyone have a similiar problem or knows what the problem could be
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I have a 8.3 gpad and have the same problem. Now it recurred for the third time. The problem might be indeed with LectureNotes conflicting somehow with LG software. My device is NOT rooted. For the first two times I had no external SD card, now I have one. I was not using Dropsync earlier either.
I would be happy to do some testing and experimenting.
It would be good to know, if I remove or change some file somewhere, can it bring the device back to life without a factory reset?
I had the problem even before using DropSync. I reinstalled the stock rom using the LG Mobile Tool and then did a factory reset.
No problems so far. Even after installing all apps and configuring them. Then I uploaded about 500 Lecture Notes files using DropSync. Even the next day I did a reboot everything was fine.
I didn't use LectureNotes ones after the new installation. And didn't delete anything that was pre-installed (wallpapers, google apps etc.). (It was said to be a problem conflicting there)
So yesterday I used LectureNotes about 1 1/2 h non stop. Saved about 3-4 times and then closed it. Used DropSync and uploaded the new files to my Dropbox account.
Then didn't use the tablet until the next morning. I tried a normal reboot (using the Power-Off Button (Shut down and reboot), to test and BAM the usuall error message occured again.
Thank god the backup I did before was bug-free and I could flash it back.
So now I'm testing what in LectureNotes could be triggering this error after a reboot is done.
My ideas so far that I will test:
- Automatic Saving Option off
- A few different settings in the app (Triggering back to Default)
- not using DropSync for a while, to test if that was maybe a part of the problem.
- Using a different ROM, maybe the problem is just with the LG Stock rom? (But that will be the very last option I will try)
- Trying to clear cache after using LectureNotes (The Cache is never saved in my backup, so never restored back. Maybe there is sth. saved, that doesn't restart after a reboot.)
What I tested so far:
- The Problem didn't occur 2 times when I used LectureNotes < 1 h.
- The App location doesn't matter for the Problem. Had the App first time on the external SD Card (storage/externalSD/LectureNotes), then on the internal (storage/emulated/0/LectureNotes).
- Tested other apps longer than > 1 and no Problem was there.
If I could anaylse the log file, I gladly would, but I don't know how to. (Read sth. about LogCat?)
@Wolkenstern: There are several apps in Google Play and other app stores (search for `logcat´) that can read the log files. However, a better way is to connect your device via USB to a `normal´ computer and use `adb´, `logcat´ or similar tools to read the logs.
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@Wolkenstern: There are several apps in Google Play and other app stores (search for `logcat´) that can read the log files. However, a better way is to connect your device via USB to a `normal´ computer and use `adb´, `logcat´ or similar tools to read the logs.
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I installed the catlog app on the tablet, because I can read it in a better ui for now.
I will try to use adb logcat with my computer, when I use LectureNotes at home. (Watched a tutorial)
Step 1: But will it also still continue writing if I reboot the devise? Critical for the error message, that keeps appearing.
Step 2: If I have the log and filter Errors and Terrible Failure, what do I do with them? I don't think I can analyse them, even though I have Java Programming Expierence, but I'm a newbie with programming android apps.
@Wolkenstern: What to look for is difficult to say, even warnings can contain important information in this case.
The advantage of the variant with USB cable is that it continues to display logs during a reboot.
@acadoid: I think I need to combine them. Because I get this little lag with my stylus (GoSmart), when it is connected with the usb.
And then I have broken letters. So I'm running the logcat while using lecture notes and then switching to the adb logcat on my computer, if I'm testing the reboot after.
LectureNote's function crashes LG G pad -- requiring Factory reset!!
Hi, I used Penutimum and Papylus before. Now I moved to LectureNote, but found a serious error. I use LG G pad 8.3, one of latest tablets. Whenever I use the function of 'cut' and 'paste' of my drawing on the note, it says 'Out of momery. Trouble ahead'. And the LG system server is down. I have to do factory reset, reinstalling everything. The tablet is otherwise working well. Acanoid, can you please help on resolving this issue? Otherwise, I wasted my money on this app as it is not usable.
I intentionally tried to confirm that LectureNote's "cut and paste" caused the crash. If this problem does not get resolved, I am going to ask for a full refund. The money is not what matters. I spent my precious tens of hours due to this critical error. I hope Acanoid team can resolve the issue.
@namagile: Which notebook page width and height do you use? Have you enabled `large page cache´ in the app's storage settings?
If you directly see an `out of memory´ message, then disable `large page cache´ in the app's storage settings, and if this option is already disabled, use a smaller notebook page width and height.
So I tested now for about 2 1/2 hours, rebooted and had the problem again.
After looking in the log after the reboot, there is always this error after the "Fatal Exception: Main" -> "03-23 23:09:23.606 E/AndroidRuntime( 1144): java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to create service com.lge.systemservice.service.CliptrayService: java.lang.NullPointerException"
Then there is a loop etc.
That was just a quick look, I will try to look over the other one before the reboot tomorrow.
I already tried the suggested option
HI, I already tried the small page cache. It did not make any difference. I have not tried the smaller notebook page width and height, but that is a big pain. Every time I create, I have to adjust the page size. In the end, LG G Pad is a new tablet with decent specs with 2 gb ram. I don't understand that even a tablet of this specs cannot handle one app. It means that the app is not built well considering the specs of a tablet.
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@namagile: Which notebook page width and height do you use? Have you enabled `large page cache´ in the app's storage settings?
If you directly see an `out of memory´ message, then disable `large page cache´ in the app's storage settings, and if this option is already disabled, use a smaller notebook page width and height.
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@Wolkenstern & namagile: The fact that the device has 2GB RAM does not mean much. LectureNotes requests what is called `large heap´ (indicating that it needs more RAM than `normal´ apps), this results usually in an upper limit of 256MB or 512MB, dependent on device. However, there are devices for which the limit is as low as 64MB, which is usually not enough for LectureNotes.
It would constitute a serve security flaw in Android if an app could crash a device. Even if an app starts to allocate memory as crazy, it will not receive any new memory once it hits the upper limit; if it does not cooperate with Android UI, it will get halted after 5 seconds; etc.
I do not own a LG G Pad and hence I cannot investigate this problem myself. The fact that you observe a null pointer exception in a LG system service (com.lge.systemservice.service.CliptrayService) suggest a severe bug in this system service.
One possibility why the problem occurs when using LectureNotes might be that LectureNotes supports Android's clipboard protocol (not many apps do that). However, even if LectureNotes was using Android's clipboard protocol wrongly (which it does not!), it should not result in a device crash, the worst scenario is that LectureNotes crashes.
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I do not own a LG G Pad and hence I cannot investigate this problem myself. The fact that you observe a null pointer exception in a LG system service (com.lge.systemservice.service.CliptrayService) suggest a severe bug in this system service.
One possibility why the problem occurs when using LectureNotes might be that LectureNotes supports Android's clipboard protocol (not many apps do that). However, even if LectureNotes was using Android's clipboard protocol wrongly (which it does not!), it should not result in a device crash, the worst scenario is that LectureNotes crashes.
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Ok, if that really were the problem, than the only way to solve it, is to wait for an update from LG.
I saw a leak of the .tot file of the official V500 Stock 4.4.2 here on XDA. So maybe Kitkat is on it's way although we possibly have to wait weeks again for it.
Or to Flash another Custom Rom.
I will test a few things, with this new input. Worst Case I have to flash my backup daily, but it takes only 3 min.
Hello forum I am using v0.64 AFTV utility and have been for some time now with no issues, my issue now is I used to be able to sideload files rather quickly from my pc like with in seconds, now for some reason it has slowed down to some files taking in upwards of 15 - 20 minutes on even the smallest files I used to complete in seconds. Is the something I can check or change I don't remember anything changing it just started getting slower and slower. I am running windows 10 and using Wifi on this pc, I have another mini pc that I have been using as well with no speed issues at all. Thanks for any assistance anyone can offer.
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Hello forum I am using v0.64 AFTV utility and have been for some time now with no issues, my issue now is I used to be able to sideload files rather quickly from my pc like with in seconds, now for some reason it has slowed down to some files taking in upwards of 15 - 20 minutes on even the smallest files I used to complete in seconds. Is the something I can check or change I don't remember anything changing it just started getting slower and slower. I am running windows 10 and using Wifi on this pc, I have another mini pc that I have been using as well with no speed issues at all. Thanks for any assistance anyone can offer.
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Just tested v0.66 here. In about a minute I was able to sideload a 24mb APK to my FTV1 without any problems. Try restarting your AFTV or toggling the ADB option off & on. And make sure the APK your trying to sideload does not have any empty spaces in its name or special characters like & on it.
To get access to the latest version which as of right now is v0.66 click on the Check for Update option in the Help section of the App.
Ok thanks I will update right now, can I ask where is the adb tab located at so I can toggle it. Thanks
I updated to .66 and same issue, like I was saying I used to use the pc with no issue sideloading in minutes thru wifi and usb option now it takes 15 to 25 minutes on either now. I do notice that if I restart the program at least 4 times it at least's starts but still takes a lot of time
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Ok thanks I will update right now, can I ask where is the adb tab located at so I can toggle it. Thanks
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I meant to toggle the ADB/Unknown sources settings in the FTV Settings menu.
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I updated to .66 and same issue, like I was saying I used to use the pc with no issue sideloading in minutes thru wifi and usb option now it takes 15 to 25 minutes on either now. I do notice that if I restart the program at least 4 times it at least's starts but still takes a lot of time
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Humn... How much space do you have empty on that FTV. No sure on which side the problem is so Reboot both devices, PC & FTV. And make sure the IP is correct & hasn't been changed by your router. Keep trying.
The only problem I've had in the past is on how the APK files I am trying to sideload are named. Make sure no empty spaces or special characters like & or -, etc.
Thanks but these are clean fire sticks new in the box, so space shouldn't be an issue.
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Thanks but these are clean fire sticks new in the box, so space shouldn't be an issue.
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I would advice unless you are going to block updates. First run any FW updates before you start to add your apps & change settings to it. Will probably be a couple of them. That was the case the last time I messed with a a new FTVS2 last month.
I also always run the AFTV Utility as Administrator on my PC.