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Here is my review video! I am a huge fan of the palm touchstone wireless charging mod and this is the best way to get it...
http://youtu.be/NGvyWBOQy0U
Nice, couple questions.
Do you use a case? I have an Otterbox Commuter and was wondering if that is thin enough to still register.
Also, will that back cover work on the Energizer Qi charging system?
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Thanks for the video!, few questions tho:
Does it work with a case (I imagine this will be a popular question)
Is the quality of the back cover noticeable different to the stock back cover? Or is it a completely stock totally 100% the same back cover with the wireless charging mod?
And what charging pad do you recommend?
Unfortunately I do not use cases as I just use a clear shield so I have no idea if it works with otterbox or any case.
This mod will not work with any pad. It will only work with the Palm Touchstone. I dont recco any pad as I only recco the touchstone. I like having one in my car, at the office and one on the nightstand.
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Unfortunately I do not use cases as I just use a clear shield so I have no idea if it works with otterbox or any case.
This mod will not work with any pad. It will only work with the Palm Touchstone. I dont recco any pad as I only recco the touchstone. I like having one in my car, at the office and one on the nightstand.
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Can you try just putting something a few mm's thick between the phone and the charge pad and seeing if it still charges?
i got this mod with a 3mm thin case from ebay. they work perfectly.
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It works with a few mm but not sure how that affects charging. Please dont just take my word for it. Dont want you spending 30 on a back cover you cant use. But if it doesnt work i will buy it from ypu for a major discount. Lol
I dont believe qi is the way to go. The new nexus has wireless charging like the touchstone. I wonder if its compatible?
probably not. afaik, each of these wireless charging is proprietary and most probably incompatible with each other. The touchstone will only work with touchstone products (atleast from what I understand, it's different frequencies and also component parts differences)
You are probably right but i hope you are wrong... either way i am so surprised more phones dont charge like this.
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check out the news regarding Nexus 4 Qi "Orb" in this forum at "Qi Wireless accessories " Post# 136 on page 14 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933523)
Hi axel. Is there any source to your news?
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Hi axel. Is there any source to your news?
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To name a few:
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/29/here-are-the-official-specs-for-the-nexus-4-and-nexus-10/
http://techwhack.com/google-nexus-4-supports-qi-wireless-charging-tech-5300/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-announces-Wireless-Charging-Orb-for-the-Nexus-4_id36060#1-
Google Nexus 4 Wireless
Now on Google's website as well:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb&feature=microsite
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probably not. afaik, each of these wireless charging is proprietary and most probably incompatible with each other. The touchstone will only work with touchstone products (atleast from what I understand, it's different frequencies and also component parts differences)
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Frequencies have anything to do with it. I'm pretty sure inductive charging uses magnetic fields to charge your device hence the giant coil in the phone cover. BUT, each base is most likely specific to it's counter part coil as different size coils will charge at different rates from the magenet in the base vs the amount of voltage and amps they put through the magnet. So it would make sense if a say Powermat didn't work with a Touchstone coil.
On the other hand, the touchstone uses a standard phone charger so it has a maximum of 5V at 1amp. I do not know what power source the Duracell Powermat uses (looked a little but didn't search long) so if it were to use a higher voltage at the same amps or higher amps at the same voltage then it may charger your phone faster.
NOTE: It should also be noted that if you use a different charging source with the touchstone base you could end up generating a different level of voltage and in turn damage your phone. It's not recommended to do this. The downfall (that I have found) with the touchstone setup is that it WILL charge through thin TPU cases and my Rock Quicksand case BUT the magnet is not strong enough to hold the phone in place. Since the touchstone is angled and not flat the phone starts to slide down and charging stops.
You can always switch out the magnets so your phone sits better on the touchstone. Its easy to change and it can make a nice diference.
Just ordered one. Touchstone rules.
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that's an interesting read. thanks for clarifying the differences. I skimmed on articles about different wireless charging tech and remembered a few mentions of frequencies.
If only there is a standard that can adapt or provide compatibility with other methods... but that would probably drive up costs and probably extend r&d time.
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@setzer715
that's an interesting read. thanks for clarifying the differences. I skimmed on articles about different wireless charging tech and remembered a few mentions of frequencies.
If only there is a standard that can adapt or provide compatibility with other methods... but that would probably drive up costs and probably extend r&d time.
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may be in the future a multi format will be available.:fingers-crossed:
Hello.
I'm using the same charger with my i9300. But it charging the phone too long
Also I have removed a wireless charging module from a custom back cover and install it on my original i9300 back cover.
Hello all,
Does anyone have this wireless charger -> http://www.amazon.com/Lerway-Wireless-Power-Charger-Lumia920/dp/B00E9MUNWU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Just want to know how it works with the Nexus 5. It is at a pretty good price and decently rated as a 4 starred device on Amazon.
I have not tried that one but I bought this one recently and have excellent results. It charges with a case on so not bad at all for $10 total shipped with prime account. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FALFNQA/ref=mp_s_a_1_50?qid=1383963766&sr=8-50&pi=SX200
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AT&T was running a deal a few days ago where you get 25% off if you buy 3 accessories. I bought 3 of the Nokia wireless chargers for around $60. Might check and see if they still have that deal going.
I use this one (broke it down and mounted in my car dock) with my N7 LTE ... Charges faster (measuring amps) than wired connections. Just grabbed one for my N5.
http://www.amazon.com/UPGRADED-Wire...TF8&qid=1383969529&sr=8-1&keywords=qi+charger
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I use this one (broke it down and mounted in my car dock) with my N7 LTE ... Charges faster (measuring amps) than wired connections. Just grabbed one for my N5.
http://www.amazon.com/UPGRADED-Wire...TF8&qid=1383969529&sr=8-1&keywords=qi+charger
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Any chance you could post pictures of that? I'm kinda tempted to buy a cheapy Qi charger and try to rig it up to my iMagnet dash mount somehow... but i'm not sure exactly how big the whole setup is and if it would be do-able.
Amazon.com: Nokia DT-900 Wireless Charging Plate - Retail Packaging - Black
I use the Nokia DT-900 it works great. Check out my photos and review here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517469
elementaldragon said:
Any chance you could post pictures of that? I'm kinda tempted to buy a cheapy Qi charger and try to rig it up to my iMagnet dash mount somehow... but i'm not sure exactly how big the whole setup is and if it would be do-able.
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sure thing.... I've been meaning to take some pictures of it anyway... it's amazing what you can do with a little bit of foam double sided sticky tape. Keep in mind this is for an N7 tablet so it has a bit bigger footprint than a phone car mount.
With that said, I hope someone (like google) does a QI car charger mount. I'm already missing my gnex pogo mount.
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sure thing.... I've been meaning to take some pictures of it anyway... it's amazing what you can do with a little bit of foam double sided sticky tape. Keep in mind this is for an N7 tablet so it has a bit bigger footprint than a phone car mount.
With that said, I hope someone (like google) does a QI car charger mount. I'm already missing my gnex pogo mount.
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I'd be interested in those pics as well when you post em
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sure thing.... I've been meaning to take some pictures of it anyway... it's amazing what you can do with a little bit of foam double sided sticky tape. Keep in mind this is for an N7 tablet so it has a bit bigger footprint than a phone car mount.
With that said, I hope someone (like google) does a QI car charger mount. I'm already missing my gnex pogo mount.
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I know. More concerned about how exactly these things are usually configured prior to being slapped in a nice square plastic case to be plopped on a desk/dresser/etc... to see if doing what i'm thinking about is even possible. If they come small enough, i might be able to get it to work. If not, i might still be able to rig something up somehow.
Yes, though I didn't use it, this one seems really cheap. But for me, a reasonable priced product means quality to me. I would highly recommend this one, "RAVPower Qi-Enabled Wireless Charger". It's really light and a great gadget to charge my lumia 920 in a wireless way. They're also compatible with many models. You can check it here from its amazon page, simply search RavPower wireless charger.
Hindo2 said:
Yes, though I didn't use it, this one seems really cheap. But for me, a reasonable priced product means quality to me. I would highly recommend this one, "RAVPower Qi-Enabled Wireless Charger". It's really light and a great gadget to charge my lumia 920 in a wireless way. They're also compatible with many models. You can check it here from its amazon page, simply search RavPower wireless charger.
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That's kind of what I thought until I read an article online the other day that talked about how most Qi chargers are made in China for less than $2. After reading that I told my self I am not paying over $20 for a Qi charger and found one for $10 shipped on Amazon. Its been awesome and I can't find any flaws with it.
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Monk4Life said:
I have not tried that one but I bought this one recently and have excellent results. It charges with a case on so not bad at all for $10 total shipped with prime account. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FALFNQA/ref=mp_s_a_1_50?qid=1383963766&sr=8-50&pi=SX200
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Ah I would buy that, but it is currently unavailable.....
I am not in a rush anyways... I will wait till it comes back in stock and buy 2-3.
Re $2 ... It shows once you open one up.
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thanks for the review
Sam_BDS said:
Hello all,
Does anyone have this wireless charger -> http://www.amazon.com/Lerway-Wireless-Power-Charger-Lumia920/dp/B00E9MUNWU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Just want to know how it works with the Nexus 5. It is at a pretty good price and decently rated as a 4 starred device on Amazon.
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I bought this one- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DOW1RD0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Works great with my Spigen Slim Armor case on and charges at 1.5A as opposed to the fastest micro usb charger & cable I could try which topped out at 1.2A.
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I bought this one- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DOW1RD0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Works great with my Spigen Slim Armor case on and charges at 1.5A as opposed to the fastest micro usb charger & cable I could try which topped out at 1.2A.
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The specs say 1a right? How is it charging higher for you? And how long is it taking for you to go 0 to 100 on charge?
-Nexus 5 32gb
crazyguns said:
The specs say 1a right? How is it charging higher for you? And how long is it taking for you to go 0 to 100 on charge?
-Nexus 5 32gb
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-Yeah, I didn't notice the 1A detail when I bought it, but that is kinda funny. I know it's using 1.5A because I hooked it up to my Kill-a-watt and that's what it was reading- 7.5W, 5V, 1.5A. So that is kind of odd, but cool.
-I haven't tested it from 0-100, but from 2%-80%, it took right at 1hr, 15 minutes.
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-Yeah, I didn't notice the 1A detail when I bought it, but that is kinda funny. I know it's using 1.5A because I hooked it up to my Kill-a-watt and that's what it was reading- 7.5W, 5V, 1.5A. So that is kind of odd, but cool.
-I haven't tested it from 0-100, but from 2%-80%, it took right at 1hr, 15 minutes.
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Woah! So the whole charge time is definitely under 2 hours! That's awesome. Thanks man I'll probably order it!
-Nexus 5 32gb
crazyguns said:
Woah! So the whole charge time is definitely under 2 hours! That's awesome. Thanks man I'll probably order it!
-Nexus 5 32gb
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Yeah, the thing is awesome! Especially for the price. Crazy how much these have improved in 1 year. When the Nexus 4 came out, they were all 500mAh and like $50.
grndc2gsr said:
Amazon.com: Nokia DT-900 Wireless Charging Plate - Retail Packaging - Black
I use the Nokia DT-900 it works great. Check out my photos and review here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517469
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AT&T had this on sale for $24.99, picked mine up there in store.
Did anyone already come across a suitable QI receiver pad for the G?
Moto G doesn't support wireless charging.
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tmeader said:
Moto G doesn't support wireless charging.
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Which is precisely why I want to add the feature with a receiver pad...
nupi said:
Which is precisely why I want to add the feature with a receiver pad...
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The battery isn't removable, so it isn't really possible.
I have a MotoG, and upon taking off the back cover, I can't seem to locate the pins normally used with Qi pads like on the Samsungs. So, I may be completely wrong, but as of right now, I think the G will not support wireless charging.
I suppose those could work http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Q...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item3cd871bdf7 but they are a bit besides the point if microusb then cannot be used...
I've ordered one of those Universal Pads and some other stuff from DealExtreme a week ago. I will report back with pictures when it arrives here. The parcel however is still in China and I don't think it will clear german customs until after christmas.
Shadow_2k said:
I've ordered one of those Universal Pads and some other stuff from DealExtreme a week ago. I will report back with pictures when it arrives here. The parcel however is still in China and I don't think it will clear german customs until after christmas.
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I'm very interested to hear if this works. I haven't been able to find any reviews for those Qi charging coil inserts, either. Have you heard of it working on the Moto G or other phones?
Motorola would have advertised it as having wireless charging if they put it in. This was one of the features they left out to cut the price
jonovw said:
Motorola would have advertised it as having wireless charging if they put it in. This was one of the features they left out to cut the price
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I'm asking about those aftermarket coil inserts that supposedly provide Qi charging by plugging into the micro USB and going between the battery cover or a case.
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I'm asking about those aftermarket coil inserts that supposedly provide Qi charging by plugging into the micro USB and going between the battery cover or a case.
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I think you will find the clearances to be too too tight for that. I think the best bet will be if someone integrates it into a shell or case.
Hey guys, I had a circle Qi chinese brand charger that used to work with my slim case, now I got a thicker one and the wireless charger simply couldn't handle it, does anyone here knows a good powerful charger that works with thick cases for the G3? (link from eBay would be appreciated)
thanks
anyone?
In general, I think Qi chargers will only bridge about 5 to 7mm, and I don't think there are any more powerful versions. There are a few (Nokia, Tilt Vu, some others) that use three coils, rather than only one, but I think this just increases the size of the sweet spot, not the power.
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In general, I think Qi chargers will only bridge about 5 to 7mm, and I don't think there are any more powerful versions. There are a few (Nokia, Tilt Vu, some others) that use three coils, rather than only one, but I think this just increases the size of the sweet spot, not the power.
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That is 100% correct, the qi standard is changing so that it can be ~1in away but that won't be until at least next year from what I have read.
Could anybody recomend a good wireless charging receiver and case combo that work well together? I've tried to slide several business cards under Spigen Rugged Armor to imitate a real receiver (probably receiver is actually thinner than two cards). The case pops up showing an ugly hump.
Spigen Thin Fit has an indent specifically for a wireless charging receiver... It also doesn't cover top/bottom of the phone so the receiver ribbon and plug fits perfectly. I have one and it works great(w/short version receiver) . Another is the Pitaka real cf MagCase. Both offer decent protection, if you need a heavy duty case I'm not sure which work
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BTW, what is the real thickness of a wireless charging receiver?
an21281 said:
Spigen Thin Fit has an indent specifically for a wireless charging receiver... It also doesn't cover top/bottom of the phone so the receiver ribbon and plug fits perfectly. I have one and it works great(w/short version receiver) . Another is the Pitaka real cf MagCase. Both offer decent protection, if you need a heavy duty case I'm not sure which work
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Hola
Very interesting. Can you please let me know which wireless receiver you are using... Some that I have used in the past never provided enough current for the phone to even detect so it did not charge.
Thanks for the info.
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I'm curious is there anything we can put under a case to make QI work?
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I'm curious is there anything we can put under a case to make QI work?
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You can. Search for "wireless charging receiver". The question is how to hide it under a case. Unfortunately I'm not a fan of "Spigen Thin Fit".
I've tried and returned several wireless charging receivers and the only one that actually worked well was Cusorient: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0713ST47Z
The other receivers would only charge anywhere from 50-250 mA but this one has been averaging from 750-1000 mA and puts a smile on my face. There are times I have seen it charge 500 mA or less but not often. I'm happy I finally found one that works well because I'm heavily invested in wireless chargers from having previously owned a Nexus 6. I even bought a spare charging receiver in case I ever screw up the ribbon cable. My case on my phone is a Spigen Thin Fit and while I can tell it's there, it's not a huge ugly bump and the case still fits properly.
an21281 said:
Spigen Thin Fit has an indent specifically for a wireless charging receiver... It also doesn't cover top/bottom of the phone so the receiver ribbon and plug fits perfectly. I have one and it works great(w/short version receiver) . Another is the Pitaka real cf MagCase. Both offer decent protection, if you need a heavy duty case I'm not sure which work
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That little indent is actually for a metal plate that goes with their magnet mounting system. It even says what it is for on the case when you get it. Now, sure you can probably use it for wireless charging receivers too, just trying to prevent the spread of misinformation
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...el2_xl_thin_fit_01_2048x2048.jpg?v=1508954700
Veritech said:
I've tried and returned several wireless charging receivers and the only one that actually worked well was Cusorient: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0713ST47Z
The other receivers would only charge anywhere from 50-250 mA but this one has been averaging from 750-1000 mA and puts a smile on my face. There are times I have seen it charge 500 mA or less but not often. I'm happy I finally found one that works well because I'm heavily invested in wireless chargers from having previously owned a Nexus 6. I even bought a spare charging receiver in case I ever screw up the ribbon cable. My case on my phone is a Spigen Thin Fit and while I can tell it's there, it's not a huge ugly bump and the case still fits properly.
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I had the Nilken wireless receiver that worked great with the Pixel XL, but almost no charging with the XL 2. I too am heavily invested in wireless charging accessories.
I ordered this one today, thanks for doing the research. Fingers crossed that it works good!
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assuming that if i use magnetic mount for car... i couldn't use one of these adapters right?
grinchyyy said:
I had the Nilken wireless receiver that worked great with the Pixel XL, but almost no charging with the XL 2. I too am heavily invested in wireless charging accessories.
I ordered this one today, thanks for doing the research. Fingers crossed that it works good!
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Can you please advise once you get it? The Nilkin works poorly for me.
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Can you please advise once you get it? The Nilkin works poorly for me.
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It definitely works better but not by much. I have a TYLT desk charger and I get about 5% per half hour charging rate.
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It definitely works better but not by much. I have a TYLT desk charger and I get about 5% per half hour charging rate.
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Wow. That's terrible. If that's the best we can expect to get with these receivers, I give up on getting wireless charging on this phone. Luckily, now that Apple added Qi to the iPhone 8, Google basically has to in the upcoming Pixel.
https://www.amazon.com/Spigen-Google-Wallet-Design-Holder/dp/B07474KKY2
I think using this case paired with a QI receiver would be the best bet right now. You could put a receiver in the wallet section, create a small recess for the ribbon and have a great solution.
Using cases seems to be hit or miss and taping the thing to the back of my $800 phone just aint gonna happen.
Google really biffed on this one, an expensive phone like this should have every feature available plus some. Or at least accessories to add them. I love the pixel, but I love wireless charging too. I missed it ever since my Nexus 5. I have not had a phone with it since, but definitely would like to see it return to a Google Device.
Veritech said:
I've tried and returned several wireless charging receivers and the only one that actually worked well was Cusorient: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0713ST47Z
The other receivers would only charge anywhere from 50-250 mA but this one has been averaging from 750-1000 mA and puts a smile on my face. There are times I have seen it charge 500 mA or less but not often. I'm happy I finally found one that works well because I'm heavily invested in wireless chargers from having previously owned a Nexus 6. I even bought a spare charging receiver in case I ever screw up the ribbon cable. My case on my phone is a Spigen Thin Fit and while I can tell it's there, it's not a huge ugly bump and the case still fits properly.
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I looked at that one but my concern is the receiver being right against the finish of the phone and if it gets hot would it cause any damage? I've been looking for a case with the TPU then outer shell I can put the receiver between. Have you noticed anything with the finish/coating being damaged?
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Have you noticed anything with the finish/coating being damaged?
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I've taken the case off often for general cleaning or from necessity of needing my USB port for one reason or another and I have not noticed any sort of damage to the phone or case surface at all.
What about the one CNET did an article on???
Article:
h t t p s://www.cnet.com/how-to/i-spent-13-to-add-wireless-charging-to-my-android-phone/
Device:
h t t p s://www.amazon.com/dp/B074SHBXC5?tag=cnet-vig-howto-20
I have that wireless receiver on my pixel 2 XL. It charges up alright but slow by comparison. I have a Satechi inline usb-c power meter and connecting in between the receiver and the phone, it's showing the receiver supplying around 750-800mA. Of course this may vary with the wireless charger, but that's what I'm seeing. I would estimate it charges about 30-40% as fast as a wired charger.
I'm using this with a Spigen Rugged Armour case and find that it made quite a bump on the back. I have sanded some of the inner part of the case away to relieve this with a Dremel and it's an improvement. Why they don't make cases with these cutouts or a removable panel to accommodate a wireless receiver I have no idea.
Actually, I wonder if there was any interest in me machining these cases to order. I could make a fixture to allow me to rout out these cases to accept a wireless charging receiver.
grinchyyy said:
I had the Nilken wireless receiver that worked great with the Pixel XL, but almost no charging with the XL 2. I too am heavily invested in wireless charging accessories.
I ordered this one today, thanks for doing the research. Fingers crossed that it works good!
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Missing my Nexus 6 wireless charging, about to purchase this one for my Pixel 2 XL. How is it doing?
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Missing my Nexus 6 wireless charging, about to purchase this one for my Pixel 2 XL. How is it doing?
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It does ok, does better with a fast wireless charging base. About 5-10% per hour with my old wireless chargers vs 15-20% per hour with a generic fast wireless charger.
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