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Could anyone provide series of photos taken by HTP2? I'd like to compare them with other devices.
More people would be welcome so we can compare even pro2 between themselfs. I've already met one pro2 with blurred and shaded camera. I just dont want to believe all those cameras are so bad.
It would be nice if you took photo in different conditions. Like outside, in the dark, of the text, of the colorful scene, inside the building with poor light conditions etc etc.
Thanks you all.

here is what i have taken
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thank you for your post. Colors are so dull. I tried to increase contrast and it looks bit nicer. Anyway I think pro2 would deserve better camera.
Could anyone else share his opinions about the camera?

I'm a bit disappointed about the camera, I've a Kaiser and the pictures are clearly better than these!...
I cannot belive it!

pepeto2001 said:
I'm a bit disappointed about the camera, I've a Kaiser and the pictures are clearly better than these!...
I cannot belive it!
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You can actually make the Kaiser camera ten times better by simply taking off the back cover when taking pictures or video. For some reason the plastic on the camera cover is dingy and blurs it a little.
Some people have actually removed that one plastic piece from the cover or just drilled a tiny hole, personally I couldn't do that.

bwnotredame06 said:
You can actually make the Kaiser camera ten times better by simply taking off the back cover when taking pictures or video. For some reason the plastic on the camera cover is dingy and blurs it a little.
Some people have actually removed that one plastic piece from the cover or just drilled a tiny hole, personally I couldn't do that.
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I know, I usually quit the cover... and the quality is MUCH better than the ones taken with pro2.... I hope another samples with other configurations will be better, I wont buy a new phone with worse camera than the one I have!!

pepeto2001 said:
I know, I usually quit the cover... and the quality is MUCH better than the ones taken with pro2.... I hope another samples with other configurations will be better, I wont buy a new phone with worse camera than the one I have!!
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Well maybe its just the same issue, the backing cover lens. Its supposed to be a 3.2 mega pix.

mistm said:
thank you for your post. Colors are so dull. I tried to increase contrast and it looks bit nicer. Anyway I think pro2 would deserve better camera.
Could anyone else share his opinions about the camera?
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just an FYI all, i didnt adjust anything. not even sure my pics are set to fine quality. I will check the settings and report back
EDIT: *** ok yup, had all the default settings with no adjustment to any of the lighting

I didnt change the settings in device. I changed contrast in Irfan view just to see if images may look better.
Lets admin that camera sux lot in HTP2. I just want to insure myself that the better result may be achieved by the software changes (like change of contrast for example).
On almost all photos i've seen there is some kind of gray curtain. Because I want to use camera in my next device I was thinking about it and i decided that its enough for me that photos looks good in the device when showing to friends. I dont need extra quality as compact camera could provide.

I was wondering what the video recording capability is on this phone. I'm told it's capable to record in 640*480 resolution these days. Is it any good (crisp / fluid) or choppy and.. well.. reasonably useless like the recordings my P4350 takes (taken into account that that phone records into the size of a poststamp)?
Bottom line: will I be using the feature to take my holland's funniest video and win 10 eurocents?

R_phAn - I can tell you in advance that this phone can't record fluid 640*480 video!
This is a result of a myriad of excuses:
- Drivers blah blah
- Hardware camera Interface to phone blah blah
- Processor blah blah
I've determined All this without even testing out the camera functionality myself... Imagine that!
And people get excited about this phone that uses even more dated processing hardware than the TP1?? (7200a)
LOL!

mallman said:
here is what i have taken
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OMG OMG, where'd you get the Voltron figure !!! I want one !!!

Here is one in very poor light. For better results try to lower the sharpness to +2.

R_phAn said:
I was wondering what the video recording capability is on this phone. I'm told it's capable to record in 640*480 resolution these days. Is it any good (crisp / fluid) or choppy and.. well.. reasonably useless like the recordings my P4350 takes (taken into account that that phone records into the size of a poststamp)?
Bottom line: will I be using the feature to take my holland's funniest video and win 10 eurocents?
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Here you can check out this sample video (from pocketnow's review)... Looks pretty good to me (and yes, it's in 640x480 )... It's not some fast moving test or something, but in general the video looks good...

orbitalen said:
Here you can check out this sample video (from pocketnow's review)... Looks pretty good to me (and yes, it's in 640x480 )... It's not some fast moving test or something, but in general the video looks good...
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Question - Why does the N95 with roughly 2.5 year old hardware record better video than this newly released TP2 phone?
And we as consumers just accept this without questioning this - LOL!

qazzi76 said:
Question - Why does the N95 with roughly 2.5 year old hardware record better video than this newly released TP2 phone?
And we as consumers just accept this without questioning this - LOL!
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I'm thinking same as you!.... how can a device 3 year old have a MUCH BETTER camera????
Is this a joke????????

pepeto2001 said:
I'm thinking same as you!.... how can a device 3 year old have a MUCH BETTER camera????
Is this a joke????????
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Tell me about it!
Admittedly this is the same across the board for all commercially available WM 6 series devices at the moment but it still stinks.
I am hoping this will change when Snapdragon processors are released as this is said to have at least 720p 30fps playback and record capabilities.

How is the screen, like when you Shake the Xperia X1 during taking a picture the screen won't lag.
A.t.m. on dutty's rom, he has done the same. when shaking the phone while in camera, the camera screen does not lag or get any delay.
Is this also the same on Touch Pro 2?
I'm considering getting a TP2 and sell my Touch HD.

bogypop said:
Here is one in very poor light. For better results try to lower the sharpness to +2.
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Did the phone put the time stamp on it ? is able to be turned off ?

If you want a qwerty slider phone that is this slim then you have to accept that you cannot get a video camera into it
Phone is always a compromise between size and features and functions. Think about the size (the thinness of the slider part) and then compare it to the phones you say have good camera. They're a lot thicker.
Someday the technology will go further but this is what we have now.

very dissappointed with the camera...any suggestions?

hey guys.
i come from a photography background. classical training (dark room, color and bw), plus many years with very expensive canon dslr equipment. point being i have a penchant for photography and a good idea for image quality.
i wasn't expecting the quality of my G11 from this phone but i was definitely expecting better than what i am getting. pictures at night or in restaurants come out horribly overblown. most places pictures come out blurry and/or very soft focused.
i've seen posts blaming it on the camera software (sense). can the software really be crippling the hardware that much? is there an alternative camera software or a fix to the existing software?
has anyone successfully ported the CM6 camera over to sense?
how are you all getting alone with your "8MP" camera?

Max_Pain said:
hey guys.
i come from a photography background. classical training (dark room, color and bw), plus many years with very expensive canon dslr equipment. point being i have a penchant for photography and a good idea for image quality.
i wasn't expecting the quality of my G11 from this phone but i was definitely expecting better than what i am getting. pictures at night or in restaurants come out horribly overblown. most places pictures come out blurry and/or very soft focused.
i've seen posts blaming it on the camera software (sense). can the software really be crippling the hardware that much? is there an alternative camera software or a fix to the existing software?
has anyone successfully ported the CM6 camera over to sense?
how are you all getting alone with your "8MP" camera?
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The new 3.30 update is supposed to help with dark shots, have you had a chance to try it out yet?

xHausx said:
The new 3.30 update is supposed to help with dark shots, have you had a chance to try it out yet?
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no i haven't. i'm not changing roms for the camera. but i'll look into moving the camera app over from the 3.30 rom. see if it works?

Max_Pain said:
no i haven't. i'm not changing roms for the camera. but i'll look into moving the camera app over from the 3.30 rom. see if it works?
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If you're using the older stock ROM you can flash it over top of the one you have and only wipe the dalvik & cache, that way you keep everything as is. If not you should be able to just copy the camera stuff. There's more to it then just the .apk file though, someone posted a list of changed files and I believe it showed some of the camera files in the system/lib folder changed also.

Max_Pain said:
hey guys.
i come from a photography background. classical training (dark room, color and bw), plus many years with very expensive canon dslr equipment. point being i have a penchant for photography and a good idea for image quality.
i wasn't expecting the quality of my G11 from this phone but i was definitely expecting better than what i am getting. pictures at night or in restaurants come out horribly overblown. most places pictures come out blurry and/or very soft focused.
i've seen posts blaming it on the camera software (sense). can the software really be crippling the hardware that much? is there an alternative camera software or a fix to the existing software?
has anyone successfully ported the CM6 camera over to sense?
how are you all getting alone with your "8MP" camera?
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While I appreciate your experience and expertise, and I say that without any sarcasm, as I do like taking pictures and wish I knew more about photography, it is after all, only a phone...

dianneeraser said:
While I appreciate your experience and expertise, and I say that without any sarcasm, as I do like taking pictures and wish I knew more about photography, it is after all, only a phone...
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yeah but it's a phone that bragged about being able to capture bleeding colors thanks to its 8mp camera. if i'm getting the same image quality as my samsung code was getting me, it's dissappointing
the image quality problems we're experiencing i think are due to software limitations. hence why pictures supposedly come out better on CM6...

Nah, it's hardware. HTC has never been known to have good smartphone cameras.
I came over from the Epic... Lordy, what a great camera that thing has!
What's the deal with people saying that their camera took better pictures once the outer lens cover cracked, and was removed? Any truth to this?

Does anyone have a link to this apk. Or do I have to switch roms. Better yet I'm on a rooted stock sense Rom how would I get this apk on my phone.

I'm testing out VIGNETTE for taking photos.. so far it looks better.. I dont like the fact that it creates its own gallery....
how does the new 3.30 camera app work??

My lens cracked so I took the cover off and replaced it with a custom piece of clear scotch tape. Pictures look better now than they did before ( I'm serious). Here's a close up.
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What you are looking at is egg yolk, rice and plantain...what was left of it. Comida de pobre.
Sent while sitting on the toilet.

gqstatus0685 said:
My lens cracked so I took the cover off and replaced it with a custom piece of clear scotch tape. Pictures look better now than they did before ( I'm serious). Here's a close up.
What you are looking at is egg yolk, rice and plantain...what was left of it. Comida de pobre.
Sent while sitting on the toilet.
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You were eating that on the toilet?

tgruendler said:
You were eating that on the toilet?
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No silly billy.

tgruendler said:
You were eating that on the toilet?
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Mexican must go "right through him"

I agree with the OP. Yes it's only a cell phone but if anyone has used the camera on a BlackBerry Bold 9650, or a Tour for that matter you'll see the difference is night and day.
Hi all btw, I've read a lot on here but never posted!

@ Max Pain:
I completely agree with your assessment on the poor quality of the camera, as do many others who bought the whole "HD Cam" nonsense that HTC sold us.
To be fair, yes, this is a phone... But, the marketing (go figure) for the Evo hyped up the camera abilities as HD, 720p video. This phone does neither well. While they have made improvements in the coding since the release, this camera struggles immensely with jitter, poor low light capture (in which most cases the flash seems to wash everything out), and horrible audio quality during video.
Lastly the compression used is awful, and here's why I don't care how many megapixels the silly sensor captures, at the end of the day compression rules all.
95% of my pictures come out grainy and crappy, particularly while using the digital zoom. The software just cannot cope.
I started a thread about this very issue a couple months back, unfortunately the devs don't seem to view this as a task worth undertaking, and after the little amount of research and specs I've seen this may be because the cam sensor used sucks as badly as the software controlling it. It just doesn't do low light well at all. I still believe there's hope if someone with the programming stones who also shares a love for good photography steps up to the challenge.
Otherwise, we probably won't have a good camera until the Evo 2.
HA.
Anyone interested in seeing this topic gain momentum can go here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782211
And just to prove I don't think the hardware is to blame check this out, this camera can shine under the right conditions. This photo is fully stock, not retouched in any way, and was taken using one of the various sense roms floating around mid summer. If we could get the low light shots, and video on par with this, I think we'd be in good shape.
The second photo is in the dark but shooting a bright frame, up close...
I don't think they are bad at all, they just rarely turn out like this.

I noticed that it takes 5-10 times to manually focus before taking a shot to get a sharp looking picture.
It's as if the algorithm for autofocus is broken, and only occasionally does the camera focus properly.

nabbed said:
I noticed that it takes 5-10 times to manually focus before taking a shot to get a sharp looking picture.
It's as if the algorithm for autofocus is broken, and only occasionally does the camera focus properly.
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WORD.
Me too. I'm always tap tap tapping the screen, and swearing at it. By then I've usually missed the shot I want to take.

Galaxy S II 30mm lens compatible case

Updated July 3rd:
This is a DIY case I made using a cheap TPU case, Sugru, and a 30mm adapter ring. 30mm is one of the smallest standard sizes for lens accessories, most commonly used by camcorders. By having a case with a 30mm ring, I can use accessories like lenses, filters, and lens caps that are normally meant for camcorders.
The first version was centered around the international S II's LED/lens piece. The second version was centered around just the lens, and is the one I'm using now.
Currently waiting for lens cap and circular polarizing filter. Macro lens arrived today, and below are some shots taken with it, comparison pictures taken without it, and some pics of the actual lens/case
Cost (bought most from ebay):
Case: $1.50
Ring: about $1-2
Sugru: Sold in larger packs, but actually used amount comes out to perhaps $2 (http://sugru.com/)
Macro+wide angle kit: $15-$20
Circular polarizing filter: $5
Lens cap: $2
Also available, though I haven't bought it:
2x, 3x, 4x telephoto lenses: $15-$100
Various filters: $?
Step up rings: $1-2 (for use with other size accessories, like 37mm)
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Interesting!

yes very interesting, but seems like the flash would ruin each picture flashing into the lens, wouldn't it?

collinsac24 said:
yes very interesting, but seems like the flash would ruin each picture flashing into the lens, wouldn't it?
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The 30mm mount is for a CPL, lens cap and macro lens that are on their way. Maybe a 2x or 3x zoom in the future. No situation I need those in is going to require flash, especially not the kind of flash a phone gives

Cptnodegard said:
The 30mm mount is for a CPL, lens cap and macro lens that are on their way. Maybe a 2x or 3x zoom in the future. No situation I need those in is going to require flash, especially not the kind of flash a phone gives
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I don't know about all the camera stuff I just was assuming kinda, but yea seems cool hope to see some test photos sometime.

cool
great idea! galaxy s3 is rolling out so get a design on it and might have future buyers if thats what ur heading toward.

collinsac24 said:
I don't know about all the camera stuff I just was assuming kinda, but yea seems cool hope to see some test photos sometime.
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CPL is a circular polarizing filter, which helps control light in outdoor pictures, reduces reflections, makes blue skies bluer etc. macro lens is for close-up shots, zoom self explanatory.
I already have a macro lens, but it's one of those tiny made-for-phones ones. Originally it came with a magnet, but I modified it:
Now it attaches to my case. The case in these pictures is a $1.30 one from ebay, one I absolutely love, so I tend to buy a ton of them and use them for various things like this. Got one unmodified one which the small macro lens fits into, then the one with the 30mm ring. One was cut up to make the little rubber thing that holds the small lens in place, one was cut up to make a microUSB dust protector, and several more have died to just testing stuff.
I also have a DIY tripod adapter that fits the case
So basically I'm making an entire accessory system around these $1.30 cases.
Finally, here's a macro image taken with the small (not a 30mm) macro lens

If anyone is interested in making their own there's a bit more info on materials, what to get etc here: http://www.pocketables.com/2012/06/from-the-diy-drawer-30mm-camera-accessory-adapter-case.html

Cptnodegard said:
CPL is a circular polarizing filter, which helps control light in outdoor pictures, reduces reflections, makes blue skies bluer etc. macro lens is for close-up shots, zoom self explanatory.
I already have a macro lens, but it's one of those tiny made-for-phones ones. Originally it came with a magnet, but I modified it:
Now it attaches to my case. The case in these pictures is a $1.30 one from ebay, one I absolutely love, so I tend to buy a ton of them and use them for various things like this. Got one unmodified one which the small macro lens fits into, then the one with the 30mm ring. One was cut up to make the little rubber thing that holds the small lens in place, one was cut up to make a microUSB dust protector, and several more have died to just testing stuff.
I also have a DIY tripod adapter that fits the case
So basically I'm making an entire accessory system around these $1.30 cases.
Finally, here's a macro image taken with the small (not a 30mm) macro lens
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So the final photo was taken with the phone with the lens you installed? That looks great(at least to a non photographer person) any plans to make and sell, for those less talented?
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collinsac24 said:
So the final photo was taken with the phone with the lens you installed? That looks great(at least to a non photographer person) any plans to make and sell, for those less talented?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA Premium HD app
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No, the final photo was taken with the tiny made-for-cellphones lens you see in some of the images you quoted. The result with that lens is what made me go ahead with the 30mm system which this thread is really about, which uses "real" lenses, not that "made-for-cellphone thingies
And no I don't really have any plans to sell, but at a cost of about $5 per case for just the adapter case, it wouldn't be hard to make those plans. Then all you need is lenses and other things off eBay or elsewhere and they screw right in

too good!!

Cptnodegard said:
No, the final photo was taken with the tiny made-for-cellphones lens you see in some of the images you quoted. The result with that lens is what made me go ahead with the 30mm system which this thread is really about, which uses "real" lenses, not that "made-for-cellphone thingies
And no I don't really have any plans to sell, but at a cost of about $5 per case for just the adapter case, it wouldn't be hard to make those plans. Then all you need is lenses and other things off eBay or elsewhere and they screw right in
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Well if you can get about the same effect or better using actual camera accessories then I'd pay probably 15$ , once you are able to get some photos up showing the whole setup would work you may have your first customer....pretty sure this is one of those impulse buys when you buy something cool that you know you don't need lol
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collinsac24 said:
Well if you can get about the same effect or better using actual camera accessories then I'd pay probably 15$ , once you are able to get some photos up showing the whole setup would work you may have your first customer....pretty sure this is one of those impulse buys when you buy something cool that you know you don't need lol
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If you only want to play with it a bit, this is a good kit to start with:
http://dx.com/p/universal-13mm-wide...ent-for-digital-cameras-and-cell-phones-14953
It's the same as what took that picture. It comes with a macro and wide angle lens, and attaches magnetically to an adhesive metal ring you stick around the camera lens. I didn't like the magnet system and made the stick-in system that you see in the images that have been quoted here. It's basically a nice "starter kit"
I was so impressed by it and found it so fun doing macro shots that I started the 30mm project. Parts wise for it you can count $5 for case parts, $20 for macro/wide angle lens kit, $5 for a circular polarizing filter, about $2 for a lens cap, and while I haven't ordered one, about $20 for a 2x/3x telephoto lens.
Still waiting for all the accessories aside from what's on the case, but once stuff starts coming in, I'll post extensive samples.

you can try this..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-in-1-Lens...403085?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cc1334f4d

good work!

Wow! Awesome! Very interesting to try..

I was stupid enough to order the macro lens from Dealextreme, which we all know doesn't give a rat's ass if the item ships in two days or two months. I checked back in to see it hadn't even shipped, so I canceled it and re-ordered it on eBay. Should ship Monday, so will still be a while until it arrives :/ CPL should be right around the corner though

awesome !!! :good::good:
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I am going to make one now

Looks like a great project. My only thought as a photographer is that you should make sure that you align the centre of the adapter ring with the centre of the phone lens. This will ensure that any lenses that you mount are optically aligned. If you don't do this, there is a great risk of introducing a lot of distortion.
Phil

PhilPassmore said:
Looks like a great project. My only thought as a photographer is that you should make sure that you align the centre of the adapter ring with the centre of the phone lens. This will ensure that any lenses that you mount are optically aligned. If you don't do this, there is a great risk of introducing a lot of distortion.
Phil
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That was one of the things I feared.. Guess I'll have to redo the case at one point then. Shouldn't be an issue since I have both more cases and rings on the way

Zoom/Telescopic lens for my Nexus 5

So after all the developments we've seen in phones in past few years, digital zoom is as useless as it ever was (only hollywood has access to some amazing tech in this field). Anyway, with no built in optical zoom in Nexus 5, I started looking out and bought myself an 8X zoom lens with a manual focus ring.
Before anything else, here're some results:
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In the first set I was amazed even at that distance I could easily make out individual leaves on the tree behind those flags. I found it quite impressive. Wouldn't you say? (all pics are reduced from actual size from nearly 4MB to less than 1MB)
Now the best part, the price 8.56CAD (Less than Rs 500)! With FREE SHIPPING
And it comes with a mount which allows the lens to be used with almost any phone camera, and besides that the lens itself can be used as a very decent 8X zoom monocular/telescope.
The lowest focal length is 3m, so you can get real closeup pics of (say) a spider on your ceiling too :laugh: I used it on my birds, who never stay still when I come near with a camera
The mount also has a standard tripod input, so you can mount your phone on any tripod you might have. Its a big plus.
The above are all pros, and for cons: There's some chromatic aberration where sharp lines with high contrast meet, but that's normal for all inexpensive lenses.
And here's the link: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/8X-Optical-Z...e-Phone-Apple-iPhone-4-4S-5-D9-/400601927751?
The above listing has ended, vin4yak suggested more:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8X-Optical-...le-Phone-Apple-iPhone-4-4S-5-HP-/141028916787
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8X-Optical-...e-Phone-Apple4-iPhone4-4S-5-UTS-/151217074247
So.. what do you all think?

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Wow look realy good!
i will order one myself!

Great, enjoy!
By the way, I missed mentioning in my OP that the mount also has a standard tripod input, so you can mount your phone on any tripod you might have. Its a big plus.
ps. your forum name gave me a chuckle!

the_rebel said:
So after all the developments we've seen in phones in past few years, digital zoom is as useless as it ever was (only hollywood has access to some amazing tech in this field). Anyway, with no built in optical zoom in Nexus 5, I started looking out and bought myself an 8X zoom lens with a manual focus ring.
Before anything else, here're some results:
Before
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Before
After
In the first set I was amazed even at that distance I could easily make out individual leaves on the tree behind those flags. I found it quite impressive. Wouldn't you say? (all pics are reduced from actual size from nearly 4MB to less than 1MB)
Now the best part, the price 8.56CAD (Less than Rs 500)!
And it comes with a mount which allows the lens to be used with almost any phone camera, and besides that the lens itself can be used as a very decent 8X zoom monocular/telescope.
The lowest focal length is 3m, so you can get real closeup pics of (say) a spider on your ceiling too :laugh: I used it on my birds, who never stay still when I come near with a camera
The above are all pros, and for cons: There's some chromatic aberration where sharp lines with high contrast meet, but that's normal for all inexpensive lenses.
And here's the link: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/8X-Optical-Z...e-Phone-Apple-iPhone-4-4S-5-D9-/400601927751?
So.. what do you all think?
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Nice thing! One question, how much did u pay for the shipping?

Jishnu Sur™ said:
Nice thing! One question, how much did u pay for the shipping?
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Forgot to mention, the price is inclusive of shipping! :laugh:

Wow! Thanks man! BTW, the ebay link says listing has ended..
Here are some other links you might wanna add to the OP!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8X-Optical-...e-Phone-Apple4-iPhone4-4S-5-UTS-/151217074247 US $8.36
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8X-Optical-...le-Phone-Apple-iPhone-4-4S-5-HP-/141028916787 AU $8.36 with $1 shipping

vin4yak said:
Wow! Thanks man! BTW, the ebay link says listing has ended..
Here are some other links you might wanna add to the OP!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8X-Optical-...e-Phone-Apple4-iPhone4-4S-5-UTS-/151217074247 US $8.36
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8X-Optical-...le-Phone-Apple-iPhone-4-4S-5-HP-/141028916787 AU $8.36 with $1 shipping
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Thanks, Added

Here's an all in one package on AliExpress for 13.90$ with tripod and holder included. You also have the choice which color you prefer
new 8x Zoom Optical Lens Universal Telephone Telescope Camera For Mobile Phone Android Phone With Tripod + Holder
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/new-...one-Android-Phone-With-Tripod/1345134098.html
I ordered this.. Thanks for the inspiration for wasting money
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bofbaz said:
Here's an all in one package on AliExpress for 13.90$ with tripod and holder included. You also have the choice which color you prefer
new 8x Zoom Optical Lens Universal Telephone Telescope Camera For Mobile Phone Android Phone With Tripod + Holder
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/new-...one-Android-Phone-With-Tripod/1345134098.html
I ordered this.. Thanks for the inspiration for wasting money
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Great, though I already have 2 tripods so I'd have still bought the same one
Do you have prior experience with AliExpress? I have always gone with eBay sellers and have great experience with them over the years. I tried DealExtreme a few times and always regretted it. Last I ordered from them was Nov-13, which I finally received in last week of Feb-14

AliExpress is as safe as eBay and has much more gadgets
Well, I've always made great experience with AliExpress.. There's also buyer's protection for 60 days, not only 45 as PayPal. Try it...
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Alright, thanks. That's good enough for me to give it a shot next time.
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it looks like the lens is on a slide rail?
so it fits no problem? the title does say its for iPhone..
Any pics of it on your N5?

gd6noob said:
it looks like the lens is on a slide rail?
so it fits no problem? the title does say its for iPhone..
Any pics of it on your N5?
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Yeah, I had the same question in mind..
@the_rebel Can you please post some pics of the device with and without the nexus 5 attached to it? It would be great. Thanks!

Alright, here goes:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9Bg_GtAO8DTREZIdVZDaGFIZnc/edit
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9Bg_GtAO8DTVXAwbFNaZEJjRW8/edit
With and without the phone attached. The lens is mounted on a tray sliding on a guiding rail (see arrows in first pic), then there's a thumb screw to tighten it in place (clearly visible in both pics). The mount has springs inside that allow it to stretch and grab a phone even larger than N5.
The lens hole is exactly the size of the black ring around N5 lens, but even if that had been much smaller, it'd be ok as the lens on the phone is much smaller than the surrounding black ring.
Best way to attach it is first fit the mount to see that the lens hole is lined up, and then screw in the lens.
Let me know if there are any more questions.
By the way, I dropped the lens yesterday on a stone floor from about 5ft, it left a small mark on the body but everything else is undamaged - nice to know, eh?

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

10. Photos are amazing!

10... Would use for professional purposes.
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10 - Photos are great! No complaints here!
Example.

i've been testing the Note 7 camera side by side with the OnePlus 3 and Xiaomi MI 5 and Huawei P9 cameras, and while the Note 7 is slightly better, it's just very, very slightly, and it's mostly in low light setting. i don't see much difference in day time shots. i think in 2016, all smartphone cameras are pretty damn legit. so all these tech reviewers saying the Note 7 has "hands down the best camera by far", i don't agree with them. (it's worth keeping in mind all those other phones i mentioned cost literally HALF AS MUCH as the note 7)

I think I can safely retire my Sony NEX-6 now for majority of uses. The photos coming out of this camera are amazing.

Amazing even compared to my Fuji X T1.
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Amazing even compared to my Fuji X T1
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Please fix this.

I'm impressed so far.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-dYQXNfPs7UeGdhR2JSQ05HMGc/view?usp=drivesdk

S6 and S7 had white balance/colour temperature issues indoors.
Also overexposure.
S7 was noticeably soft in any conditions.
Does the Note 7 fix any of those?
Waiting to see way more side by side reviews.

I had no problem with indoor white balance under LED, but since you can have so many different variants in lightning I don't think there is a camera that would do it right all the time in auto mode, but you can switch to manual WB if you want.
overexposure, sure if you really work hard on it, like shoot from inside tunel against sun, but you can use spot meter in tricky light condition to keep what you need properly exposed, but auto works fine most of the time for me.
soft in any condition: are you talking about selfie cam? Because yes, that has fixed focus and will be soft, but rear cam doesn't seem soft when properly focused and again you have control where it should be focus on.
Have you actually used any of those cams, or just read about it somewhere, because I haven't so couldn't compare.
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i've been testing the Note 7 camera side by side with the OnePlus 3 and Xiaomi MI 5 and Huawei P9 cameras, and while the Note 7 is slightly better, it's just very, very slightly, and it's mostly in low light setting. i don't see much difference in day time shots. i think in 2016, all smartphone cameras are pretty damn legit. so all these tech reviewers saying the Note 7 has "hands down the best camera by far", i don't agree with them. (it's worth keeping in mind all those other phones i mentioned cost literally HALF AS MUCH as the note 7)
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Can OnePlus3, MI5 or P9 do underwater photography? Because I'm planning to, this weekend with N7.
Do any of those have something similar to s-pen? Because I use it everyday can't live without it and it would be nice to have other options.
Can I see the screen on other phones with sun shining directly on it? Because so far Note7 is the only screen I've seen that I have no problem seeing in full sun. But I haven't try any of the ones you mentioned.
And very very slightly better, so it is actually better?
Maybe there are reasons why N7 is more expensive, otherwise nobody would buy it? And with the discounts, free giveaways etc. maybe N7 is not as expensive as it first seem.

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I had no problem with indoor white balance under LED, but since you can have so many different variants in lightning I don't think there is a camera that would do it right all the time in auto mode, but you can switch to manual WB if you want.
overexposure, sure if you really work hard on it, like shoot from inside tunel against sun, but you can use spot meter in tricky light condition to keep what you need properly exposed, but auto works fine most of the time for me.
soft in any condition: are you talking about selfie cam? Because yes, that has fixed focus and will be soft, but rear cam doesn't seem soft when properly focused and again you have control where it should be focus on.
Have you actually used any of those cams, or just read about it somewhere, because I haven't so couldn't compare.
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Can OnePlus3, MI5 or P9 do underwater photography? Because I'm planning to, this weekend with N7.
Do any of those have something similar to s-pen? Because I use it everyday can't live without it and it would be nice to have other options.
Can I see the screen on other phones with sun shining directly on it? Because so far Note7 is the only screen I've seen that I have no problem seeing in full sun. But I haven't try any of the ones you mentioned.
And very very slightly better, so it is actually better?
Maybe there are reasons why N7 is more expensive, otherwise nobody would buy it? And with the discounts, free giveaways etc. maybe N7 is not as expensive as it first seem.
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The camera is slightly better. Here are photos to prove it (http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...better-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones)
Of all the other bonus note features you mentioned, waterproofing is the only real universal useful feature that everyone would want. Hundreds of millions of people use a phone without a stylus and they couldn't care less. Plenty of people use the one plus 3 outdoors and sees the screen fine.
Using note 7's sales numberse to show the phone's supposed superiority is also a flawed argument, since a lot of that is branding and name recognition. It's like saying nike shoes are for sure the best because they sell the most.
I'm not really bashing the note 7 here, I have the phone and I like it a lot, I'm merely saying it's probably not worth more than double the price of the one plus 3, that's all I'm saying. 450 dollars more is not a small deal. 450 bucks can buy a lot, a lot of things.

It's tough to use the note front cam after using the 6P. The front cam on the 6P is an absolute monster, typically producing photos nearly as good as the REAR camera on my wife's iphone 6.
Vs the note 7 and S7e, the selfie cam pics are noticeably much less sharp and focused. A quick google search for blurry selfie pics for the Galaxy 7 devices yields countless forums of people complaining about this.
No idea if it's the software or the actual hardware that is the problem but it's absolutely there.

I am totally satisfied with the camera. (considering s4 and zenfone 2 were my previous devices.) I guess note 7 will be enough to handle daily shots for even business purposes. Any questions?

So, what's the difference between Bokeh (on the new iphone 7...after a software update) and what our phones do now....where the background is blurry?

meboy said:
S6 and S7 had white balance/colour temperature issues indoors.
Also overexposure.
S7 was noticeably soft in any conditions.
Does the Note 7 fix any of those?
Waiting to see way more side by side reviews.
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I confirm that the camera is perfect. I have Exynos version

I'm satisfied

AdrianR2016 said:
I confirm that the camera is perfect. I have Exynos version
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saturation and colors are great but oversharped a bit on my opinion

I think all photos a "yellow-ish" a bit and expose are too high in some difficult scenarios like front sun etc

If Samsung can decrease/eliminate the oversharpening part, it will be a perfect camera here.