Hello,
So I currently have a Sprint LG G2 that I would like to unlock to be able to use it on AT&T or Tmobile. From what I'v read, even the Verizon G2 comes factory unlocked which Verizon's been known to keep locked in almost all of there phones. I called customer service and told them i would be traveling overseas (they didnt ask what country) and after about 24 hours emailed me asking permission to unlock the device, they told me to go and update me UICC Unlock which gave me a message saying "your SIM is now unlocked" but when I put in a Tmobile sim card to test it, the phone would not recognize it no matter if i changed the settings to gsm/umts or global mode. What do you suggest I do next, I am worried I payed so much for the phone and if 1 or 2 years from now I decide to move carriers or even country that I am visiting to next week and the phone bieng "unlocked" still wont unlock it to be used on local carriers or even abroad, that would really suck. Any suggestions?
sazeem said:
Hello,
So I currently have a Sprint LG G2 that I would like to unlock to be able to use it on AT&T or Tmobile. From what I'v read, even the Verizon G2 comes factory unlocked which Verizon's been known to keep locked in almost all of there phones. I called customer service and told them i would be traveling overseas (they didnt ask what country) and after about 24 hours emailed me asking permission to unlock the device, they told me to go and update me UICC Unlock which gave me a message saying "your SIM is now unlocked" but when I put in a Tmobile sim card to test it, the phone would not recognize it no matter if i changed the settings to gsm/umts or global mode. What do you suggest I do next, I am worried I payed so much for the phone and if 1 or 2 years from now I decide to move carriers or even country that I am visiting to next week and the phone bieng "unlocked" still wont unlock it to be used on local carriers or even abroad, that would really suck. Any suggestions?
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You really need to do some serious research.
Concerning Verizon, Verizon is required to have the GSM portion of their CDMA/LTE phones factory unlocked due to to a requirement by the FCC when they divested some spectrum a while back.
Now for Sprint, Sprint locks down (or locks out) the GSM portion of their LTE phones for domestic GSM use, so trying to use it with a domestic GSM carrier like AT&T, T-Mobile etc is out of the question by default. They'll unlock it for international GSM use (non U.S GSM carriers). Now there are some fine folks on XDA here that have been able to work around these restrictions on the Galaxy S4, but that's the exception so far.
If like you say, they emailed you that they've unlocked your phone, if you leave the country and insert a foreign SIM, it'll work with that international carrier.
Your right
your absolutly right. Now i need to find out how they did it in s4 because it has to be possible for this phone too then that case
LordLugard said:
You really need to do some serious research.
Concerning Verizon, Verizon is required to have the GSM portion of their CDMA/LTE phones factory unlocked due to to a requirement by the FCC when they divested some spectrum a while back.
Now for Sprint, Sprint locks down (or locks out) the GSM portion of their LTE phones for domestic GSM use, so trying to use it with a domestic GSM carrier like AT&T, T-Mobile etc is out of the question by default. They'll unlock it for international GSM use (non U.S GSM carriers). Now there are some fine folks on XDA here that have been able to work around these restrictions on the Galaxy S4, but that's the exception so far.
If like you say, they emailed you that they've unlocked your phone, if you leave the country and insert a foreign SIM, it'll work with that international carrier.
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sazeem said:
Hello,
So I currently have a Sprint LG G2 that I would like to unlock to be able to use it on AT&T or Tmobile. From what I'v read, even the Verizon G2 comes factory unlocked which Verizon's been known to keep locked in almost all of there phones. I called customer service and told them i would be traveling overseas (they didnt ask what country) and after about 24 hours emailed me asking permission to unlock the device, they told me to go and update me UICC Unlock which gave me a message saying "your SIM is now unlocked" but when I put in a Tmobile sim card to test it, the phone would not recognize it no matter if i changed the settings to gsm/umts or global mode. What do you suggest I do next, I am worried I payed so much for the phone and if 1 or 2 years from now I decide to move carriers or even country that I am visiting to next week and the phone bieng "unlocked" still wont unlock it to be used on local carriers or even abroad, that would really suck. Any suggestions?
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Hmmm, this is interesting, I am having a similar dilema, as far as I was aware, I thought that unlocking would be done on the cosumer end, they would give you a code, then you'd input that code in, I've just never heard of them unlocking it on their own. I got the LG G2 LS980 when I was in the US for a semester and moved to Brazil just a week ago, I haven't tried to fully make it work, but from the LS980 manual, it says that there is not even a sim lock on the phone(i'd put up a picture, but I have no idea how). And when I try to put in an old local(brazilian) SIM card, it doesn't ask for a unlock code, it just says no SIM card - Emergency calls only. I'm still researching it, but if you find anything, just post it here so I can keep up Thanks.
LordLugard said:
You really need to do some serious research.
Concerning Verizon, Verizon is required to have the GSM portion of their CDMA/LTE phones factory unlocked due to to a requirement by the FCC when they divested some spectrum a while back.
Now for Sprint, Sprint locks down (or locks out) the GSM portion of their LTE phones for domestic GSM use, so trying to use it with a domestic GSM carrier like AT&T, T-Mobile etc is out of the question by default. They'll unlock it for international GSM use (non U.S GSM carriers). Now there are some fine folks on XDA here that have been able to work around these restrictions on the Galaxy S4, but that's the exception so far.
If like you say, they emailed you that they've unlocked your phone, if you leave the country and insert a foreign SIM, it'll work with that international carrier.
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Yeah I will definitely have to wait for a workaround for the sprint LG G2 as I am not a sprint customer. I think the S4 and the HTC both have workarounds, but as far as I'm aware, these workarounds apply mostly for international use only (which is exactly what I need) meaning that ATT/TMOB is probably not going to work, or might have to wait a couple months until there is a lot more people working on the sprint version, the thing is, the phone wasn't released that long ago, so support in the forums is still low.
Back during the photon days they were able to achieve domestic gsm use by flashing the radio from the Japanese version of the photon. Well maybe not directly. It may have been a modified Japanese radio but it worked!! My daughters mother still uses the photon 4g as an att go phone. Would something like that still be possible for our devices? I know a lot of people lost interest in it because after the photon we got the photon q which had an embedded Sim. Even then people were able to take the phone apart and solder a Sim tray in and unlock it for other domestic carriers.
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tsdeaton said:
Back during the photon days they were able to achieve domestic gsm use by flashing the radio from the Japanese version of the photon. Well maybe not directly. It may have been a modified Japanese radio but it worked!! My daughters mother still uses the photon 4g as an att go phone. Would something like that still be possible for our devices? I know a lot of people lost interest in it because after the photon we got the photon q which had an embedded Sim. Even then people were able to take the phone apart and solder a Sim tray in and unlock it for other domestic carriers.
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But I think first of all it needs to be unlocked for GSM or GSM part of the phone should be unlocked for any other thing to try.
st_7 said:
But I think first of all it needs to be unlocked for GSM or GSM part of the phone should be unlocked for any other thing to try.
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As long as some foreign carrier has their g2 unlocked for international gsm use then it wouldn't matter right? With the KDDI radio on the photon we weren't able to use sprint service on it after flashing. Basically as if the phone thought it was the Japanese version of the photon.
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tsdeaton said:
As long as some foreign carrier has their g2 unlocked for international gsm use then it wouldn't matter right? With the KDDI radio on the photon we weren't able to use sprint service on it after flashing. Basically as if the phone thought it was the Japanese version of the photon.
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This would be awesome if it worked, I'm still hopeful someone will find a way, because I don't use sprint anymore and I have since moved to brazil. Thank god this phone is awesome enough to not be useless with only wifi, but I'm still hopeful someone will find a way for me to catch Brazil's GSM signal, as the phone does have the right GSM bands for it.
Just like the HTC one, it took months for even Sprint themselves to figure out how they would unlock the HTC, what I want to know if there is anyone that has actually called Sprint and asked for the unlock, and confirmed it to be working.
Can the sprint lg g2 be unlocked for any carrier.
Im trying to change from sprint contract to straighttalk. Is there a way to get my LG G2 unlocked so I can switch?
Hathoid said:
Yeah I will definitely have to wait for a workaround for the sprint LG G2 as I am not a sprint customer. I think the S4 and the HTC both have workarounds, but as far as I'm aware, these workarounds apply mostly for international use only (which is exactly what I need) meaning that ATT/TMOB is probably not going to work, or might have to wait a couple months until there is a lot more people working on the sprint version, the thing is, the phone wasn't released that long ago, so support in the forums is still low.
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I unlocked my GS2 Skyrocket recently as I'm about to sell it and pick up a G2 next week. I popped in a T-Mobile SIM and verified that it worked. However, I very seriously doubt the method I used would work on the G2. Here's the thread though:
unlock free proceed at your own risk!
Domestic sims are too small
sazeem said:
Hello,
So I currently have a Sprint LG G2 that I would like to unlock to be able to use it on AT&T or Tmobile. From what I'v read, even the Verizon G2 comes factory unlocked which Verizon's been known to keep locked in almost all of there phones. I called customer service and told them i would be traveling overseas (they didnt ask what country) and after about 24 hours emailed me asking permission to unlock the device, they told me to go and update me UICC Unlock which gave me a message saying "your SIM is now unlocked" but when I put in a Tmobile sim card to test it, the phone would not recognize it no matter if i changed the settings to gsm/umts or global mode. What do you suggest I do next, I am worried I payed so much for the phone and if 1 or 2 years from now I decide to move carriers or even country that I am visiting to next week and the phone bieng "unlocked" still wont unlock it to be used on local carriers or even abroad, that would really suck. Any suggestions?
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I called the Sprint international department and they explained the situation somewhat.
Domestic sim cards such as on tmobile and att have too little memory to support the cdma function of the lg g2, so you will get an "invalid sim" message. The size of the sim must be at least 128k to work on the g2. Maybe there is a way to get domestic network data on a larger sim card.
Hope this helps.
severly said:
I called the Sprint international department and they explained the situation somewhat.
Domestic sim cards such as on tmobile and att have too little memory to support the cdma function of the lg g2, so you will get an "invalid sim" message. The size of the sim must be at least 128k to work on the g2. Maybe there is a way to get domestic network data on a larger sim card.
Hope this helps.
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while the size thing may be true.. this is not why youre getting an invalid sim error. the invalid sim error comes from when u use ANY sim thats not Sprint. After you get Sprint to OTA SIM unlock your phone.. this invalid sim error goes away... gsm will work for intl.. and possibly domestic.. tho sprint may also have a block on domestic only.. after the intl unlock. if the phone is unlocked thru sprint and you pop a tmo sim in and get no signal(but no invalid sim error)... then that means the phone is unlocked properly but domestic is blocked.
this is usually my area of interest.. i did both the htc one and gs4 unlocks but I do not own a g2 unfortunately.
autoprime said:
while the size thing may be true.. this is not why youre getting an invalid sim error. the invalid sim error comes from when u use ANY sim thats not Sprint. After you get Sprint to OTA SIM unlock your phone.. this invalid sim error goes away... gsm will work for intl.. and possibly domestic.. tho sprint may also have a block on domestic only.. after the intl unlock. if the phone is unlocked thru sprint and you pop a tmo sim in and get no signal(but no invalid sim error)... then that means the phone is unlocked properly but domestic is blocked.
this is usually my area of interest.. i did both the htc one and gs4 unlocks but I do not own a g2 unfortunately.
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So are you saying if you did have a Sprint G2 you would be able to find a way to unlock it?
How the heck do they do this?
How can they unlock the phone for international SIMs and prevent them from working on local SIMs? Can't be some band that they check. Otherwise, it would not work on an international SIM using that band. Hardcode something in the kernel or the OS? In which would a custom ROM and/or kernel work? Can anyone point me to some links or posts that discuss this?
os2baba said:
How can they unlock the phone for international SIMs and prevent them from working on local SIMs? Can't be some band that they check. Otherwise, it would not work on an international SIM using that band. Hardcode something in the kernel or the OS? In which would a custom ROM and/or kernel work? Can anyone point me to some links or posts that discuss this?
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I'm also interested in this as I have a LS980 and I am currently in Brazil, sprint has done nothing yet as far as unlocking it.(even for actualy customers, I have not seen anyone that actually has this thing unlocked). I popped in a Claro(local provider) SIM card, and the phone says "No SIM card- Emergency calls only", I've tried multiple SIMs to see if it was a problem with the actual SIM, but all of them read the same thing, while inside the phone I get a notification saying "Restricted Access Changed - Voice Service is Blocked". So it knows there is a SIM card in there, it's just blocking it.
Cleanser2012 said:
So are you saying if you did have a Sprint G2 you would be able to find a way to unlock it?
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cant be 100% certain... but I'd say there'd be a good chance. Unlocked another Sprint phone this week.
Hopefully I'll get a G2 eventually.
autoprime said:
cant be 100% certain... but I'd say there'd be a good chance. Unlocked another Sprint phone this week.
Hopefully I'll get a G2 eventually.
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I'll pray every day that you do get one dood It would be a life saver because as of now I have a mini tablet G2 in brazil
autoprime said:
while the size thing may be true.. this is not why youre getting an invalid sim error. the invalid sim error comes from when u use ANY sim thats not Sprint. After you get Sprint to OTA SIM unlock your phone.. this invalid sim error goes away... gsm will work for intl.. and possibly domestic.. tho sprint may also have a block on domestic only.. after the intl unlock. if the phone is unlocked thru sprint and you pop a tmo sim in and get no signal(but no invalid sim error)... then that means the phone is unlocked properly but domestic is blocked.
this is usually my area of interest.. i did both the htc one and gs4 unlocks but I do not own a g2 unfortunately.
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Will give 75 $ if you can buy a used set. That's my contribution. For the G2 unlock.
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Is there anything I can do to make my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 usable on Verizon's network?
Root it? Unlock it? Anything?
No, the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 is exclusively GSM, and Verizon's network utilizes CDMA technology. You would need to buy a Verizon Touch Pro2 from Verizon to use Verizon's network.
LOL.
AT&T, T-Mobile = GSM
Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular = CDMA
You CANNOT use a GSM phone on a CDMA network and vice versa.
AT&T to T-Mobile??
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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nope... wont work.. you cant just install a rom on the phone and have it work on another network... The phones themselves have to be compatible.. like was said up there.. gsm phones run on gsm networks.. cdma on cdma... now that said.. arent the touch pro 2's with verizon and sprint world phones so will run on both gsm and cdma?? Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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First of all, don't try to flash the T-Mobile ROM onto your Sprint Rhodium, since that's a great way to brick your device (the ROM is for a GSM device, flashing that to a CDMA/GSM device will brick it). Sprint allows the use of SIM cards for any carriers except US ones, so what you need to do is Security Unlock your Sprint TP2, then flash this special modified radio that will allow for the use of SIM cards from US carriers. Only then can you use your Sprint TP2 on T-Mobile US.
EDIT: Disregard this entire post, I misread it and this probably doesn't apply to the actual situation. My bad...
Aaron McCarthy said:
nope... wont work.. you cant just install a rom on the phone and have it work on another network... The phones themselves have to be compatible.. like was said up there.. gsm phones run on gsm networks.. cdma on cdma... now that said.. arent the touch pro 2's with verizon and sprint world phones so will run on both gsm and cdma?? Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
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AFAIK, the TP2s on Verizon are World Phones, but I really doubt that you could go and use a Verizon TP2 on a GSM carrier like AT&T or T-Mo. I would assume Verizon would lock the feature to do that, and that the GSM antenna is more then likely an underpowered or unable to really take advantage of GSM networks (3G/HSDPA, Edge, etc). I think they are only set on on Verizons end to do basic voice and basic features.
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
Aaron McCarthy said:
Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
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stevedebi said:
Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
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Thanks Steve
Everyone,
I apologize for the confusion.. I re-read my post and I didn't mention that my Touch Pro 2 is an AT&T phone. (I was an AT&T customer and moved to Sprint). Sorry about that guys..
But thank you everyone especially stevedabi for reading between the lines.. LOL.. He won't buy it but my other co-worker is very interested. Need to sell this thing so I can offset my termination fee from AT&T. haha.
stevedebi said:
Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
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Why not just transfer the entire contract to him WITH the phone.. Then you don't have to pay a cancellation fee... Can they do that here? I know of a few people that did it up in Canada but have never heard of anyone in the states doing it. I'm sure it's got to be possible down here.
seansweat said:
Is there anything I can do to make my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 usable on Verizon's network?
Root it? Unlock it? Anything?
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Sell it to me....
Verizon is cdma...tmobile is gsm they aren't interchangeable. PM me if you are interested in selling.
I am interested in getting the Verizon model for how cheap it is. Is it possible to sim unlock the Verizon model to use on T-mobile?
I know someone is offering a boot unlocks and regular sim unlocks with GSM models. Not sure if it will work with the CDMA model.
Insights?
He said he can unlock Verizon locked Plays as well.
He just said on the 12th page post of his unlocking forum that the GSM baseband isnt supported.
"Originally Posted by mightytharos
Hello,
I am still wondering if the root process allows the XPERIA PLAY from Verizon (cdma version) to be used as a World phone (by putting a sim card in the slot). I'd appreciate if you guys can tell me if this is possible.
Thank you
I think @netorino is right, baseband doesnt allow gsm networks."
I am just asking and double making sure cause I kept seeing people using the word "unlocked". And I know unlocked has multiple meanings. (boot, sim,ect)
I come from HD2 XDA.
joeminati said:
I am interested in getting the Verizon model for how cheap it is. Is it possible to sim unlock the Verizon model to use on T-mobile?
I know someone is offering a boot unlocks and regular sim unlocks with GSM models. Not sure if it will work with the CDMA model.
Insights?
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Don't quote me...but I think you would be better off getting the AT&T play as its gsm as is T-mob, while Verizon is cdma.
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joeminati said:
I am interested in getting the Verizon model for how cheap it is. Is it possible to sim unlock the Verizon model to use on T-mobile?
I know someone is offering a boot unlocks and regular sim unlocks with GSM models. Not sure if it will work with the CDMA model.
Insights?
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Quick answer? NO, absolutely not.
Longer answer?
Basically the SIM Slot seems to be physically uncoupled from the chassis. Further, the chipset that would be running the GSM is replaced with one for the CDMA. Whether it can function as both is a question, but the chip is actually different (from my teardown to look, the chip numbering is different from the tech/repair manuals).
I would, in general, assume that no phone that is on Verizon (unless it specifically says "World phone" or "World Edition") can be used on T-Mobile. CDMA vs GSM silliness. Different frequencies, different methods, different technologies.
So while the bootloader unlcok could work for the CDMA model, the SIM-unlock wouldn't.
Interestingly enough, there are still traces of the GSM code in the phone's diagnostic menus though.
i have a friend that has a phone repair shop in my hometown. i called him when i found a play that is cdma thru verizon. it is a world phone and has a sim card slot. he said that as long as its a world phone version it can be unlocked for gsm use in the united states. idk im getting one tonight and im gonna tinker with it and once i get it all going i will let everyone know on here if it can in fact be unlocked for gsm use in the US.
Well???
darkkarny717 said:
i have a friend that has a phone repair shop in my hometown. i called him when i found a play that is cdma thru verizon. it is a world phone and has a sim card slot. he said that as long as its a world phone version it can be unlocked for gsm use in the united states. idk im getting one tonight and im gonna tinker with it and once i get it all going i will let everyone know on here if it can in fact be unlocked for gsm use in the US.
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Well did your tinkering work?
starboi4eva said:
Well did your tinkering work?
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well turns out that the phone ended up not having a sim card slot and the person that i was supposed to purchase it from had no clue about anything. i did not end up buying this device. sorry!!!!
This was stated years ago, the R800x has a sim card slot but it is turned off on a hardware level. It is a non-functioning sim slot.
Hi,
I just purchased this phone off ebay. The listing told me that it was a Sprint phone with a bad ESN that had been flashed to Vzw prepaid.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200904023202?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Well I got the phone and it is a t-mobile version and not Sprint!!
I dont even know if the phone has been flashed through VZW or not. everything ive read says that the tmobile version can be unlocked, but How can I tell if this phone is on verizon or not? will I also need a sim card?
Im scared I just purchased a giant wifi only paper weight :crying:
thanks so much guys n gals.
Chris
Email the seller maybe he sent the wrong phone .. u can always file a claim so your not totally screwed
Sent from my GT-T889 using xda app-developers app
^ +1. Also, if the seller doesn't wanna work out the issue with you, you can file a buyer's protection claim for item not as described. After all, the add said it was a sprint note 2 not a tmobile one.
Sent from my customized phablet
Verizon/Sprint = CDMA = NO SIM SLOT... if you have a SIM slot.. good luck trying to get it on Verizon. Someone correct me if i am wrong. Contact the seller!!!
MikeYuse0406 said:
^ +1. Also, if the seller doesn't wanna work out the issue with you, you can file a buyer's protection claim for item not as described. After all, the add said it was a sprint note 2 not a tmobile one.
Sent from my customized phablet
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So IS there any hope for me flashing this to Verizon prepaid? I have emailed seller but no response yet. I do like the phone though. He may have sent the wrong one.
chris111690 said:
So IS there any hope for me flashing this to Verizon prepaid? I have emailed seller but no response yet. I do like the phone though. He may have sent the wrong one.
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The tmobile version is GSM whereas sprint/Verizon are CDMA. These are 2 totally different technologies. As far as I am concerned, there is no way to run a gsm device on the cdma network or viceversa. They use different frequencies, etc.
However, I may be wrong so let's wait to see if some with a better knowledge supports my claim.
Sent from my customized phablet
MikeYuse0406 said:
The tmobile version is GSM whereas sprint/Verizon are CDMA. These are 2 totally different technologies. As far as I am concerned, there is no way to run a gsm device on the cdma network or viceversa. They use different frequencies, etc.
However, I may be wrong so let's wait to see if some with a better knowledge supports my claim.
Sent from my customized phablet
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My cousin(in his youthful stupidity) is with Verizon, he has a Motorola Droid(more stupidity) and for some strange reason it has a sim slot, and it is populated with a Verizon sim. I'm not sure why, maybe they do that so they can use phones that aren't normally CDMA? But then they'd need towers and spectrum for GSM. Who knows.
I actually sold an ATT S3, unlocked to someone on ebay and they tried to use it on vzw prepaid. Of course my ad said clearly it was ATT, and unlocked. I didn't think about needing to state it would NOT work on vzw. Your situation is a bit different however.
MikeYuse0406 said:
The tmobile version is GSM whereas sprint/Verizon are CDMA. These are 2 totally different technologies. As far as I am concerned, there is no way to run a gsm device on the cdma network or viceversa. They use different frequencies, etc.
However, I may be wrong so let's wait to see if some with a better knowledge supports my claim.
Sent from my customized phablet
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I don't know about sprint but verizon note 2 does have sim card slot for the sim. It came unlocked. It does support gsm. i tried it on my tmobile and it worked.
check this thread for more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044449&highlight=tmobile
chris111690 said:
Hi,
I just purchased this phone off ebay. The listing told me that it was a Sprint phone with a bad ESN that had been flashed to Vzw prepaid.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200904023202?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Well I got the phone and it is a t-mobile version and not Sprint!!
I dont even know if the phone has been flashed through VZW or not. everything ive read says that the tmobile version can be unlocked, but How can I tell if this phone is on verizon or not? will I also need a sim card?
Im scared I just purchased a giant wifi only paper weight :crying:
thanks so much guys n gals.
Chris
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just file a complaint with Ebay since he sent you the item you received is not a described in the add.. ebay will open up a claim ticket...
DataDork said:
Verizon/Sprint = CDMA = NO SIM SLOT... if you have a SIM slot.. good luck trying to get it on Verizon. Someone correct me if i am wrong. Contact the seller!!!
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Verizon/Sprint phones are CDMA but the new 4g LTE phones from them are using a sim card slot for the 4g LTE network ... (correct me if im wrong obviously)
on side note: wonder if anyone knows how to flash the phone to verizon unleased unlimited plan $50 unlimited everything ?
Yes, the New 4g LTE phones from Verizon and Sprint have SIM Slot, and can be unlocked to use with other Carriers just like just At&t and Tmobile phones. so Sprint/Verizon phones have both GSM and CDMA chip.
Why would you buy a bad ESN phone for $500?? BAD ESN means LOST or STOLEN Phone.
You buy a stolen phone from eBay and you're surprised you didn't get what you paid for?
Stupidity.
Well being the genius I am failed to open the phone and see the huge sprint logo there. :silly:
It seems he is just running a tmobile Jedi rom and i just looked up the device id from the phones properties.
My fault guys. But not that it is a sprint phone that has been flashed to vzw prepaid. How do I activate? the MEID number that is displayed after the #*06# does not work on the vzw site or over the phone.
Hello,
I'm in a dilemma where I have personal T-Mobile service, and AT&T service with my work. I want to purchase the variant of the S4 that will have the best compatibility with both networks (including HSPA, HSPA+, LTE). T-Mobile LTE has also already gone live in my market.
It seems the international i9505 support's T-Mobile's LTE bands (AWS 1700 / 2100 MHz LTE)
However, AT&T's variant (SGH-i337) supports AT&T's LTE (LTE 700 MHz Class 17) and possibly the additional T-Mobile bands.
Can anyone confirm if the international model also supports AT&T's LTE 700 MHz Class 17 Network?
Thanks!
The T-Mobile version is pentaband. I cannot confirm LTE, but it should pick up AT&T bands. T-Mobile does use 850/1900 in some areas, primarily to support older iPhones, and you should be able to roam on their frequencies. The AT&T version does not support T-Mobile bands (AWS, also used by some Canadian carriers).
The T-Mobile version supports all of atts bands (including LTE) but adds support for AWS HSPA and LTE.
If you use an att S4 on T-Mobile, you will be locked to 1900 PCS only. No LTE, EDGE in most places, HSPA in refarm markets (but not DC-HSPA+ which means you will average 3-7 down)
It is much more advantageous to get the T-Mobile version than the att version as they are identical otherwise.
Sent from my SGH-T999
EtherealRemnant said:
It is much more advantageous to get the T-Mobile version than the att version as they are identical otherwise.
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Save the critical bootloader difference.
Adam's teardown shows that the AT&T and T-Mobile versions are literally the same hardware. So it should be possible to unlock AWS on AT&T's model (might be as simple as flashing the T-Mo modem/firmware, as on the Note 2).
Thanks for all the responses. I bought the T-Mobile S4 and was happy to learn it is the pentaband variant. Since I travel abroad and also own an AT&T SIM through work.. it looks like I made the right choice!
ker0zene said:
Thanks for all the responses. I bought the T-Mobile S4 and was happy to learn it is the pentaband variant. Since I travel abroad and also own an AT&T SIM through work.. it looks like I made the right choice!
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Hi!
Did it work with AT&T SIM? I'm assuming that the sim is locked but I was am wondering if T-Mobile (If you buy at full prize) makes the device SIM unlocked or not?
If this is the case, TMo would be a smarter choice right now to use in AT&T to avoid that bootloader BS.
keplenk said:
Hi!
Did it work with AT&T SIM? I'm assuming that the sim is locked but I was am wondering if T-Mobile (If you buy at full prize) makes the device SIM unlocked or not?
If this is the case, TMo would be a smarter choice right now to use in AT&T to avoid that bootloader BS.
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I have a T-Mobile S4 and I can confirm it does get LTE on AT&T. I got a SIM unlock pin from an online site and then the device accepted my AT&T SIM. The only thing I had to do after that was change the APN to use "phone" instead of "wap.cingular" and LTE is working great!
intrepresentation said:
I have a T-Mobile S4 and I can confirm it does get LTE on AT&T. I got a SIM unlock pin from an online site and then the device accepted my AT&T SIM. The only thing I had to do after that was change the APN to use "phone" instead of "wap.cingular" and LTE is working great!
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whelp... looks like I'm getting the tmobile variant after all
keplenk said:
Hi!
Did it work with AT&T SIM? I'm assuming that the sim is locked but I was am wondering if T-Mobile (If you buy at full prize) makes the device SIM unlocked or not?
If this is the case, TMo would be a smarter choice right now to use in AT&T to avoid that bootloader BS.
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yeah tmobile phones are network locked, and if you are doing the monthly pay plan, tmobile wont give you the unlock code until it is paid off.
im the kind of person who likes to unlock my phone regardless of me leaving or staying with a specific network or not.
i chatted with tmobile and they wouldn't give me my code, so i went to cellunlocker (dot) net and got my code in ~7 hours.
(im not affiliated with cellunlocker in any way)
intrepresentation said:
I have a T-Mobile S4 and I can confirm it does get LTE on AT&T. I got a SIM unlock pin from an online site and then the device accepted my AT&T SIM. The only thing I had to do after that was change the APN to use "phone" instead of "wap.cingular" and LTE is working great!
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The question I have is that if you plan to use the phone on AT&T's network all of the time, will AT&T add the T-Mobile's phone IMEI to your AT&T account so it reflects the correct device on your line for account and possible insurance purposes?
scott14719 said:
The question I have is that if you plan to use the phone on AT&T's network all of the time, will AT&T add the T-Mobile's phone IMEI to your AT&T account so it reflects the correct device on your line for account and possible insurance purposes?
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Its not a native at&t device so you won't get any help from at&t or Asurion. Its not even worth keeping the device insurance if you arent using an at&t branded device. Huge waste of money.
Sent from my SGH-T999
My plan is to just purchase Tmobile version of S4 (no contract), then purchase unlock code, then purchase squaretrade warranty ... Then use an AT&T sim.
My only question is, one you purchase the sim unlock code from a different company, will you purchase again if you (for example) flash CM, AOSP Roms - that includes modem firmware updates?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda app-developers app
If you are buying off contract, they should go ahead and give you unlock code or it may already be unlocked.
bookmonke said:
If you are buying off contract, they should go ahead and give you unlock code or it may already be unlocked.
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You'd be surprised. There is apparently some confusion with T-Mobile as to what exactly their unlocking policies are. I purchased my S4 from T-Mobile's website at full retail price. According to their website (support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1588) if you purchase the phone at full retail price, they will unlock it provided only that you have an account in good standing.
However, when I tried to get it unlocked yesterday the rep I was chatting with online said I had to have service active for at least 40 days (I am switching over to T-Mobile from Sprint) so she wouldn't even submit an unlock request. I went to the store and while they submitted an unlock request but were told on the phone that the 40 day period may apply (even though it does not say that on their website).
I am supposed to find out by Monday if they will unlock it or not. If they don't I will just buy an unlock code from one of the unlocking websites. Kind of crazy T-Mobile makes you jump through these hoops when you can just buy a code for $25.
What T-Mobile's Sim Unlock Department answered to my request..
BillBurn said:
You'd be surprised. There is apparently some confusion with T-Mobile as to what exactly their unlocking policies are. I purchased my S4 from T-Mobile's website at full retail price. According to their website (support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1588) if you purchase the phone at full retail price, they will unlock it provided only that you have an account in good standing.
However, when I tried to get it unlocked yesterday the rep I was chatting with online said I had to have service active for at least 40 days (I am switching over to T-Mobile from Sprint) so she wouldn't even submit an unlock request. I went to the store and while they submitted an unlock request but were told on the phone that the 40 day period may apply (even though it does not say that on their website).
I am supposed to find out by Monday if they will unlock it or not. If they don't I will just buy an unlock code from one of the unlocking websites. Kind of crazy T-Mobile makes you jump through these hoops when you can just buy a code for $25.
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I paid for the phone in full, and requested the unlocked code by phone. They told me it could take from 24 hours to 14 days.
This is the response they sent me thrue email yesterday"
"T-Mobile Sim Unlock Request
Sim Unlock Reference: *******
IMEI: **********************
Thank you for taking the time to contact T-Mobile. Unfortunately, we are unable to provide the unlock code at this time. After review of the account we have determined that the device is not in use with the corresponding mobile number. T-Mobile policies and procedures state that the device must be in use on the mobile number requesting the unlock code. If this is a new device please allow 3-4 business days prior to submitting a new request to allow your usage to update in our system.
Thank you,
SIM Unlock Department
Thank You,
Sim Unlock Department
T-Mobile USA, Inc."
scott14719 said:
The question I have is that if you plan to use the phone on AT&T's network all of the time, will AT&T add the T-Mobile's phone IMEI to your AT&T account so it reflects the correct device on your line for account and possible insurance purposes?
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Asurion (the company most USA cellular networks go thur) is too expensive...you should look into squaretrade, ensquared, or buy it thru BestBuy and get BestBuy's warranty
wavrunrx said:
yeah tmobile phones are network locked, and if you are doing the monthly pay plan, tmobile wont give you the unlock code until it is paid off.
im the kind of person who likes to unlock my phone regardless of me leaving or staying with a specific network or not.
i chatted with tmobile and they wouldn't give me my code, so i went to cellunlocker (dot) net and got my code in ~7 hours.
(im not affiliated with cellunlocker in any way)
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intrepresentation said:
I have a T-Mobile S4 and I can confirm it does get LTE on AT&T. I got a SIM unlock pin from an online site and then the device accepted my AT&T SIM. The only thing I had to do after that was change the APN to use "phone" instead of "wap.cingular" and LTE is working great!
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how'd you manage to add the APN? i'm in the same situation and cannot add the APN. i'm trying to use an AT&T iPhone5 SIM in my T-Mo unlocked Galaxy S4 ... getting phone service, but no data. am confused.
jerzyboy2421 said:
how'd you manage to add the APN? i'm in the same situation and cannot add the APN. i'm trying to use an AT&T iPhone5 SIM in my T-Mo unlocked Galaxy S4 ... getting phone service, but no data. am confused.
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on the stock Galaxy S4, you just open apps drawer, go to <SETTINGS> <CONNECTIONS><MORE NETWORKS><MOBILE NETWORKS><ACCESS POINT NAMES> then hit the "menu button" on your phone and choose "New APN" type in your data and hit the "menu button" again and choose "Save"
First of all let me say that before u answer this question I have about as much knowledge on this as a 75yo grandmother, so please keep it extra simple. Most of what I read on these forums might as well be Greek. I have an LG G7 ThinQ. More specifically the G710VMX. I purchased it unlocked and brought it to Tracfone, yes I use Tracfone. It worked with the original SIM card I had from another phone until it didn't, that's when the issues began. Bought a 3 pack VZW, T-Mobile, AT&T sim kit intending to use VZW because has the best service in rural areas. That sim would not work so ended up with T-Mobile sim and bad service. Assumed the phone was GSM only so I suffered. Then I tried to put in an AT&T sim to see if that would give better service and it's GSM so I thought it would work, well it doesn't. Somehow this is only compatible with T-Mobile and US Cellular which is CDMA(? since I assumed phone GSM only). Now Tracfone and T-Mobile reps both are telling me that once they switch to VoLTE the phone will no longer work, I will need a new phone. How is that possible?? I love this phone and hace read that it is capable of operating in VoLTE but the setting to turn it on is not there. And all other networks when given my IMEI tell me it's not compatible. HELP ME PLEASE, I can't afford, nor do I want, a new phone right now.
Turnhoo said:
First of all let me say that before u answer this question I have about as much knowledge on this as a 75yo grandmother, so please keep it extra simple. Most of what I read on these forums might as well be Greek. I have an LG G7 ThinQ. More specifically the G710VMX. I purchased it unlocked and brought it to Tracfone, yes I use Tracfone. It worked with the original SIM card I had from another phone until it didn't, that's when the issues began. Bought a 3 pack VZW, T-Mobile, AT&T sim kit intending to use VZW because has the best service in rural areas. That sim would not work so ended up with T-Mobile sim and bad service. Assumed the phone was GSM only so I suffered. Then I tried to put in an AT&T sim to see if that would give better service and it's GSM so I thought it would work, well it doesn't. Somehow this is only compatible with T-Mobile and US Cellular which is CDMA(? since I assumed phone GSM only). Now Tracfone and T-Mobile reps both are telling me that once they switch to VoLTE the phone will no longer work, I will need a new phone. How is that possible?? I love this phone and hace read that it is capable of operating in VoLTE but the setting to turn it on is not there. And all other networks when given my IMEI tell me it's not compatible. HELP ME PLEASE, I can't afford, nor do I want, a new phone right now.
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time will tell, you know just use your phone as long as it's still working. don't let marketing fool you
Well, the other issue is that I need to get it away from Tracfone T-Mobile because their service is terrible in my area. I can't seem to get either a Tracfone AT&T or Tracfone Verizon SIM to work yet the phone is compatible (according to the websites respectively) with Cricket wireless (AT&T) and US Cellular (cdma). I don't understand... That is why I brought this question to all of you. I live and work in a rural area and it may sound crazy but all I want to do is make stinking phone calls.