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Hi guys,
I just purchased a Samsung Galaxy SII on eBay. I decided to take the plunge even though the seller said it was for "parts and not working". He said the problem he was having was that the phone would shut off by itself, no matter what he did. He said this happened maybe once every 10 times he pressed the sleep button.
I got it yesterday and started messing around with it. I haven't encountered the problem yet but I only used it for a few hours. I proceeded to successfully root the device and flashed a custom ROM (CyanogenMod 10 - JB 4.1.1) and it seems to work ok. I'm not using the phone yet and I guess I was just wondering if you think the problem may have just "gone away". If it did, I would feel very lucky. I won't know for sure until I start using the phone regularly, but I needed a reliable phone today at work and that's why I didn't bring it with.
Any thoughts on what could cause this issue and possible solutions are appreciated. I've read some people say it's related to the CPU or the button itself, or perhaps even the battery. The owner had never rooted the phone so he was just running the regular T-Mobile Gingerbread rom.
Thanks and Happy Friday!
Probably the power button problem
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Thanks for answering, Teo. If it's that, it should be fairly simple to fix. I'll report back just in case somebody is having the same issue.
Since the JB ROM's suffer from random restarts and sleep of death issues, I would recommend flashing an ICS ROM. This will get you a more stable environment for testing, so if the device suddenly shuts it self off, you'll know it's not the ROM.
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Since the JB ROM's suffer from random restarts and sleep of death issues, I would recommend flashing an ICS ROM. This will get you a more stable environment for testing, so if the device suddenly shuts it self off, you'll know it's not the ROM.
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+1 to this suggestion. Flash a ROM that is known to be stable so you can confirm the original issue. I'd suggest stock (gb or ics, doesn't matter) for the best test environment.
Thank you guys! Your responses are greatly appreciated!
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Thank you guys! Your responses are greatly appreciated!
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Why don't you either send to Samsung under warranty or put insurance on it and have it fixed
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Why don't you either send to Samsung under warranty or put insurance on it and have it fixed
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I bought it used on eBay, I'm not the original owner. And I didn't see the SquareTrade warranty option for this purchase, perhaps because it was under "For parts & not working". I haven't come across the problem yet. I have flashed a few different roms (ICS) but every one of them has given me some type of problem. I'm still using my very reliable myTouch 4G and I'm starting to doubt if I really want to dump it for the SII.
Nicraz said:
I bought it used on eBay, I'm not the original owner. And I didn't see the SquareTrade warranty option for this purchase, perhaps because it was under "For parts & not working". I haven't come across the problem yet. I have flashed a few different roms (ICS) but every one of them has given me some type of problem. I'm still using my very reliable myTouch 4G and I'm starting to doubt if I really want to dump it for the SII.
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The phone has not been out a year yet so it don't matter about ownership as long as there is not abuse to the phone they should help you
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playya said:
The phone has not been out a year yet so it don't matter about ownership as long as there is not abuse to the phone they should help you
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Thank you! I'll look into that.
If I am correct this phone came out Oct /12/11
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If I am correct this phone came out Oct /12/11
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Yeah so warranty should still work. phone warranties starts the day it is activated. My white one was activated until February so i got another 5 months!
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Don't want to jinx myself but I flashed Team Chopstick's ICS rom on Saturday and haven't encountered the issue thus far.
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Nicraz said:
Don't want to jinx myself but I flashed Team Chopstick's ICS rom on Saturday and haven't encountered the issue thus far.
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At this point. I would think it's safe to say that your phone is fine lol
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At this point. I would think it's safe to say that your phone is fine lol
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Lol yeah Teo, I hope so I'm glad I took the plunge!
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Nicraz said:
I bought it used on eBay, I'm not the original owner. And I didn't see the SquareTrade warranty option for this purchase, perhaps because it was under "For parts & not working". I haven't come across the problem yet. I have flashed a few different roms (ICS) but every one of them has given me some type of problem. I'm still using my very reliable myTouch 4G and I'm starting to doubt if I really want to dump it for the SII.
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I have both MT4G and SG2...rooted my SG2 than my MT4G..flashed alot of ROMS for both phone and while the ROMS for MT4G are great and stable (using the Dark Unicorn v2.5) the SG2 ones i like better, (Jedi Knight 2 Stripped)..hands down better phone performance of course with the SG2...just using my MT4 as a backup phone and one for testing.(rooted wifes phone so gota test ROM before i give it to her)
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I have both MT4G and SG2...rooted my SG2 than my MT4G..flashed alot of ROMS for both phone and while the ROMS for MT4G are great and stable (using the Dark Unicorn v2.5) the SG2 ones i like better, (Jedi Knight 2 Stripped)..hands down better phone performance of course with the SG2...just using my MT4 as a backup phone and one for testing.(rooted wifes phone so gota test ROM before i give it to her)
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I'm keeping my MT .. at least for now. I actually paid more for it than for the SII! I'm using the SII full time and keeping the htc for backup. Im running Toasted Marshmallow on the htc and I like it a lot. I tried JK on the SII but gave me problems so I'm sticking to Team Chopstick for now.
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Dude mt4g probably the best single core phone out there. Loved that phone.
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You got a good deal from someone that didn't know much about Android smartphones, nice. This is obvious because it was still on GB lol.
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You got a good deal from someone that didn't know much about Android smartphones, nice. This is obvious because it was still on GB lol.
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Yeah! I actually lost the bid to someone else and then for whatever reason the bidder backed out and I got a second chance offer from the seller so I bought it right away.
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Hi guys, recently lots of S3 owners encouter this scary issue that their S3's motherboards just failed randomly and the phones are dead.Here is the link to the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993044
However, after reading pages, I noticed most cases are in the UK, some in other europe countries, some in asia (india, south east asia). Not sure the US version (and Tmo version specificly) is suffering from this, so I made this thread to gather information about this. I know I am paranoid, but I was hoping my S3 would last at least 2 years til my next upgrade. And now Im living in fear after knowing that thread. My S3 (manufacture date is 06/27/12) is still performing very fine with zero issue since august except the SD card being removed unexpectedly 2 times by the phone itself.
(btw, you can check your manufature date by dial this code: *#12580*369# )
Edit: seems like only international version suffers from this issue.
This is why we all pay for warranty right?
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elracing21 said:
This is why we all pay for warranty right?
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Thank you. you all need to get it.
elracing21 said:
This is why we all pay for warranty right?
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Well warranty doesn't matter when your phone is rooted right?
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Well warranty doesn't matter when your phone is rooted right?
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Well that's what Odin is for. If you Odin to stock it doesn't take away your warranty.
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This is why we all pay for warranty right?
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my phone comes with 1 year warranty. But I hate having a phone already opened up for repair.
Anyway, there is 1 case with Tmo US version....
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This is why we all pay for warranty right?
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Warranty or not. Motherboards shouldn't fail on its own.its a recall. manufacturer should be held responsible without warranty.
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Warranty or not. Motherboards shouldn't fail on its own.its a recall. manufacturer should be held responsible without warranty.
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Exactly. These phones are too damn expensive for them to keep sticking us consumers on the crap end of the stick when they screw up.
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as much as i hate to say this but if this does happen to mine, this will be the last time I buy from Samsung and might jump ship to Apple where I can take a phone in a get it fixed in time.
Im pretty happy with Samsung, I deal with warranty on a day to day basis in another way but there is an expected amount of devices that go out that a company knows is going to fail at some point and also rely on returns for warranted devices to see what went wrong in production in order to correct it.
The problem is you have "X" amount of people on the forum which is big in consideration to a regular site and "Y" with the same problem and people group in and make the issue bigger than it is. Any company that posts a recall is at the point that OVER 42% of the product with the same failure over the release.
With that said I haven't had one problem with mine that others have reported and after being let down by HTC time and time again I most definitely will buy another Samsung device, so far it's been the best I've had out of the collection of smartphones I have.
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I'm a Samsung convert
No one else has the cyanogen and miui teams working for them
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Well warranty doesn't matter when your phone is rooted right?
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Well that's what Odin is for. If you Odin to stock it doesn't take away your warranty.
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it doesnt matter if youre rooted for hardware failure, they still have to warranty it
Its reasons like these I'm always so fearful to remove my warranty subscription. Oh, and because of all my phone hax0ring
Have the same prolem my phones sometimes turns off by self I have warranty but still hateto go back to store
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ferlogan said:
Have the same prolem my phones sometimes turns off by self I have warranty but still hateto go back to store
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You dont have to go to the store, call T-Mobile and they will send you one with an RMA, as soon as you get it put the old one in the box and send it out. All they do is check for water damage and put it up for refurbish they don't waste time putting it through testing they test the devices that may have account info on it if you can't power it up to format it before sending it back. They ask you that on the phone.
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So does this mean that none of the tmo peeps have had no issues with their devices dying? I only ask because, I just got my galaxy last Wednesday. Had a couple quirks, but nothing's dead yet. Had a little issue with my music and swipe. When I would get my notifications tones say from email I would be listening to music, the sound would nearly drown out and stay that way till I paused my music and started again all was fine. I've been getting random screen flashes near the bottom of the screen, like a ton of lines like a glitch. Anyone else having this issue as well? Feel free to add anything else if you like.
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So does this mean that none of the tmo peeps have had no issues with their devices dying? I only ask because, I just got my galaxy last Wednesday. Had a couple quirks, but nothing's dead yet. Had a little issue with my music and swipe. When I would get my notifications tones say from email I would be listening to music, the sound would nearly drown out and stay that way till I paused my music and started again all was fine. I've been getting random screen flashes near the bottom of the screen, like a ton of lines like a glitch. Anyone else having this issue as well? Feel free to add anything else if you like.
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Sounds to me like you might have activated something in developers options, go in settings and see if you selected anything that would flash the screen if long processes are in use.
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Nothing in dev out of the usual, only thing being ticked is the usb debugging, and turned up the animation scales, transitions etc to .05, animations were at 1, but I was using swype, only happens when using that. Any better keyboards I can download on the market better than the Samsung or swype?
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Nothing in dev out of the usual, only thing being ticked is the usb debugging, and turned up the animation scales, transitions etc to .05, animations were at 1, but I was using swype, only happens when using that. Any better keyboards I can download on the market better than the Samsung or swype?
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Nvm found the gingerbread keyboard on the market, thanks for the tip.
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jay4mont78 said:
Nothing in dev out of the usual, only thing being ticked is the usb debugging, and turned up the animation scales, transitions etc to .05, animations were at 1, but I was using swype, only happens when using that. Any better keyboards I can download on the market better than the Samsung or swype?
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Nvm found the gingerbread keyboard on the market, thanks for the tip.
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Did you enable any traces? That would show depending on what you have checked. I was gonna try enabling a few to see what it does but it's not like it would ruin anything. I'll report back though to see if I can recreate it.
Edit nope that did nothing, hope you figure it out, I never had that happen before.
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havent heard anyone yet seem the us version are better than other version in the world
Can someone help me with this topic:
I rooted my galaxy tab2 GT-P3100 n flashed few roms like CM10,AOSP but then I had to flash the stock romantic back because most of the apps started crashing(message: sorry the__app___ is closed unfortunately) but after flashing stock1 things were same, nowhere to go unfortunately I had to sell that1....... Now i purchased GN2 I can't stay unrooted but I am worrying if same happens this time too..... Can someone answer me why this thing happens(unfortunate app crashes) ?
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AbhimanyuAryan said:
Can someone help me with this topic:
I rooted my galaxy tab2 GT-P3100 n flashed few roms like CM10,AOSP but then I had to flash the stock romantic back because most of the apps started crashing(message: sorry the__app___ is closed unfortunately) but after flashing stock1 things were same, nowhere to go unfortunately I had to sell that1....... Now i purchased GN2 I can't stay unrooted but I am worrying if same happens this time too..... Can someone answer me why this thing happens(unfortunate app crashes) ?
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Most of the time it is because the os is not supported on that app ... Like when ICS first came out you have some apps that won't work on it .... There is usually nothing that can't be fixed you didn't have to sell it just find out what wasnt right and fix it ..
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I have never rooted any of my device wven not my gn 2 cuz it makes S pen and some of my fav apps useless
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AbhimanyuAryan said:
Can someone help me with this topic:
I rooted my galaxy tab2 GT-P3100 n flashed few roms like CM10,AOSP but then I had to flash the stock romantic back because most of the apps started crashing(message: sorry the__app___ is closed unfortunately) but after flashing stock1 things were same, nowhere to go unfortunately I had to sell that1....... Now i purchased GN2 I can't stay unrooted but I am worrying if same happens this time too..... Can someone answer me why this thing happens(unfortunate app crashes) ?
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I haven't experienced a single unwarranted app crash. The few times I did have a crash it was do to user error or restoring app data. Did you make sure that you wiped everything between roms? Any left over data can cause all sorts of issues down the line.
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I have never rooted any of my device wven not my gn 2 cuz it makes S pen and some of my fav apps useless
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Rooting the Note 2 doesn't take away any functionality, if anything it adds extra functionality that wasn't there by default.
For example: Do you happen to use the multi-window capability that the device has? If you do, wouldn't it be even better if you could use any app you wanted and not just the predetermined choices? Most custom roms offer that to root users.
What apps are useless with root? How is the Spen useless?
The only time that my Spen has ever been useless is when I'm not using it. Even aosp roms that don't natively support it have apps that will bring most of, if not all of, it's practical applications back. And aosp is only an option and not a requirement to being rooted.
I apologize if this seems overly harsh or blunt but for someone who blatantly states "I have never rooted any of my device [e]ven my gn 2" I would refrain from giving out false information, and if you truly wish to help out someone with a question pertaining to things that you don't understand (as of yet) that you would research it to give your response a more meaningful bit of advice. Aviralsingh16, you have been a member of this site for less than a week, please understand that I'm not trying to discourage you from helping others. I merely want to help you to make more informative posts that offer a more robust knowledge of the subject. We are a community of people who enjoy our devices and like to push them beyond what we've been told they could do. We are here to help each other.
You came to the wrong neighborhood ...
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I have never rooted any of my device wven not my gn 2 cuz it makes S pen and some of my fav apps useless
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Yes rooting is bad. That's why the chick's dig me cause I'm a bad bad man.
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Then u haven't learned anything yet at least in android....... I have rooted 1 of my other device because I simply can't take it without grounded and xda community is for those u root, flash and innovate new things........ I M rooting my rooting my note2 to unlock it's hidden potential
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I sold that at the same rate I purchased (I ve have studied entrepreneurship....at my high school and I thought of applying it) But I again purchased a new1 as I can't keep myself away from big screens..
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You have an international note 2 and you're posting nonsense in the sprint note 2 forums, why
I like to break stuff!
LoL
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Is there any forum for international 1....it's just a GN2......did sprint version has got diamonds carved over its body:what:
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AbhimanyuAryan said:
Is there any forum for international 1....it's just a GN2......did sprint version has got diamonds carved over its body:what:
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They run on different network types, they have different software and some different hardware and entirely different model numbers. You want the gt-n7100/n7105 forums this is the sph-l900. If you use anything from this forum you run a real good risk of bricking your phone. Your total lack of knowledge between the device differences is one reason you definitely shouldn't be rooting your phone and most likely the reason you broke the last device you tried to root.
I like to break stuff!
I never root by reading on xda I just Google for the roms or pda files for my model........ By the way what different hardware u got in ur model. My GN2 costed me rs. 40000=approx 930 USD(after conversion)..........Plz mention the hardware difference.... It's damn so disappointing If u got tegra enabled GN2 much cheaper than me......N 1 more thing I rooted my device
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We have CDMA radios, LTE radios, no wireless charging, partitions are formatted differently for the different partitions required by the network differences and other country specific differences. The differences aren't huge but their enough to make them 2 entirely different devices that can't share software/firmware without modification if it can share them at all, some things arent interchangeable no matter how much you modify them, like modems.
I like to break stuff!
If I have to visit US for soooo and soooo reason is it possible that I can flash that firmware or rom supported by US connections? Is this possible?
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AbhimanyuAryan said:
If I have to visit US for soooo and soooo reason is it possible that I can flash that firmware or rom supported by US connections? Is this possible?
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You could unlock your device if its not already (not sure if international devices are tied to a specific carrier) and use any of our GSM networks like at&t or t-mobile or the numerous prepaid variants of the 2. That's the one nice thing about unlocked GSM devices all you have to do to change networks is switch out the SIM card.
I like to break stuff!
We have lotzzz of carriers here and I have 5 sim cards. Sometimes, I use 2 cards simultaneously with a dual slot chip set does this means my model is unlocked?
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We have lotzzz of carriers here and I have 5 sim cards. Sometimes, I use 2 cards simultaneously with a dual slot chip set does this means my model is unlocked?
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Most likely, im not even sure foreign carriers lock their devices like they do here in the US. If you bought your phone full price then its more than likely unlocked, the more I think about it I'm almost positive most foreign carriers don't provide locked phones outside of a few UK and French carriers that sell carrier branded hardware.
I like to break stuff!
I suggest you unroot your device. You seem you didnt get any advantage from rooting other than wasting your own time.
OP,
You have an international version so you're already unlocked. Is there any app that you need super user access for? Do you care to modify your phone, or are you happy with it the way it is? If you like the phone the way it is, leave it unrooted. You'll get software updates faster, won't void your warranty, and won't mess with something you may have no need for.
was doing a Lil reading on the Interweb, seen a few post about the Galaxy note 2 possibly skipping 4.2 update and going straight to 4.3. It's suggested that the update might come out sometime in October. Not getting my hopes up it is the interweb lol. Anybody know what are some of the upgrades or tweaks they changed from 4.1 to 4.3
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Saw something of that likes as well. I'm sure people will lecture me for saying this but I'm saying it anyway.
"I'm getting tired of waiting...."
I'm a very patient person and have always experienced this anticipation towards each update I've ever received since cupcake. Oh well
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My ex gfs n4 is on 4.3, my daughter's tab 7-2 is on 4.2, and my own note 2, and note 10 are on 4.1 . Dammit, I buy all the devices, why are my own the farthest back?
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Omg a virtual keyboard!
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My ex gfs n4 is on 4.3, my daughter's tab 7-2 is on 4.2, and my own note 2, and note 10 are on 4.1 . Dammit, I buy all the devices, why are my own the farthest back?
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I know the feeling, the note 2 is the first new phone I got, I normally wait for them to be out for a bit and do all the updates but had the money and really liked this phone, but always read about the updates and hate waiting lol
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was just wondering if any knows whats the difference was between the 4.1 to 4.3 updates were
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FYI October date if for international Touchwiz phones, not US carriers. Will be months later before US carriers accept what Sammy gives them, adds their files and then decides when it is a good time to push it.
To add to that^, I have a Galaxy S4, that I'm selling, but every other major carrier in the US, Canada, and really much of the world, has received an update so you can move apps to the SD card months ago.
T-Mobile? Not a single word about it.
It will be months after international gets 4.3 for the other 3 major carriers in the US. And likely months after that that T-Mobile sends it out.
The fragmentation is alleviated if you go custom roms
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Omg a virtual keyboard!
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And video recording! lol
Aria807 said:
The fragmentation is alleviated if you go custom roms
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always one.Anyways I'm tired of the chase for that perfect rom,I just want my damn phone to work period without flashing roms to find out that the rom has more broken crap than samsung
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always one.Anyways I'm tired of the chase for that perfect rom,I just want my damn phone to work period without flashing roms to find out that the rom has more broken crap than samsung
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Im with you that's why I stick to stock roms but tweak them to what I want, tired of flashing different roms to find one that is close to what I want but has extra crap I don't want either broken or its just like having the boatware the carrier installs. Yes the Developers do a great job here at xda over the cell phone carriers. I haven't found one that fits what I want( mostly get rid of bloatware and a few tweaks I like) and one thing is I don't complain and do give thanks, cause I don't develop.
To all you developers who read this you do amazing work. I'm not putting you down, I'm a select few who likes to take your mods and add them to my stock rom that's all
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I'll never buy any Samsung or any other company's phone...I'll stick with googles' own phone, this way I can get updated ASAP.....have to wait until next year to get the Kitkat on my Note 2, and didn't even get the 4.3 yet...GOD what's wrong with Samsung..?
Does your phone not work with the current firmware? Did you purchase a license agreement with Samsung or your mobile carrier saying that your phone would ever receive more than bug fixes?
Hmm...
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I love Samsung. Custom ROM makes everything better.
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I love Samsung. Custom ROM makes everything better.
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Couldn't have said it any better myself
Omfg... We're getting 4.3 in a few days. Calm down lol! First week of December. Not sure what's with all the whining. I agree... I'd rather wait a couple of months for 4.4 but still... Better than nothing!
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I'll never buy any Samsung or any other company's phone...I'll stick with googles' own phone, this way I can get updated ASAP.....have to wait until next year to get the Kitkat on my Note 2, and didn't even get the 4.3 yet...GOD what's wrong with Samsung..?
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Have fun with your small, non-removable battery and no SD card..
OK folks, there is an off topic and other device thread already in existence...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192602