I've read threads here with some people saying that there will be no Xperia Play 2 and then I've seen some others on XDA Dev hint that Sony might be pursuing this. So has anyone heard anything at all.....any new news.....any hints....anything on a Sony Xperia Play 2 (or whatever name they decide to use)? I've had my rooted Xperia Play r800x for almost 3 years and it works perfectly and I refuse to upgrade to another brand in hopes that Sony will put a 2nd version of this phone on the market sometime in 2014. So any news? It would be greatly appreciated. Thank You!
Nothing
And I scour the internet every few months for any tidbits or signs
Heck I would even take an alternative but so far it seems Sony holds the patent for the gaming flip phone and the closest analog I have seen is a wireless flip case for an Iphone. Which is irritating because of apples walled garden shop.
There are tones of other options but they are all awkward and would force you to carry around an extra accessory in your pocket
Its a shame that no one else has created a true gaming phone like the xperia play since. Drives me nuts.
A shame indeed!
DrROBschiz said:
Nothing
And I scour the internet every few months for any tidbits or signs
Heck I would even take an alternative but so far it seems Sony holds the patent for the gaming flip phone and the closest analog I have seen is a wireless flip case for an Iphone. Which is irritating because of apples walled garden shop.
There are tones of other options but they are all awkward and would force you to carry around an extra accessory in your pocket
Its a shame that no one else has created a true gaming phone like the xperia play since. Drives me nuts.
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Like you I've also been scouring the web every couple weeks to see if Sony plans to pursue an XP2. All they need to do is put a product spin on the original design - supe up the hardware a bit, add more internal memory, and update the casing for it to look a bit more modern - I don't think that's too much to ask(or just tweak the Z1 or Vita to make it a gaming phone with slideout gamepad). I don't think an XP2 would interfere with their Vita sales - XP2 is an all in one device and it's brilliant - it's not a dedicated gaming device - there's a big difference. It's also driving me nuts that they won't pursue an XP2 (at least from what the majority have said) - in fact, it blows my mind that they're not considering it. Android gaming is huge & growing by leaps & bounds. After I rooted my XP1, I have all the emulators installed including the Nintendo DS one. I've got Facebook, Linked In, Netflix, Tune In Radio Pro, plus a bunch of other apps and also a big inventory of games mostly Xperia Play Optimized. The phone is very unique and a brilliant product. Some people whine about the specs, poor support, etc... but I've never had a problem with it and I enjoy using it every day. I've seen sites that have concept/prototype XP2's with pics and suggested specs...Sony has a very unique market niche here and if they create/produce/market an XP2 right it will be a huge hit! There is NO way I'm going to get another phone AND carry around a Moga or some other bluetooth gamepad controller when I know the XP1 is an all in one device. Who wants to carry a phone and a gamepad controller in their pockets? Not me - it's just not practical. When I showed my XP1 to friends they had never heard of the phone and wanted to get one. This shows the poor marketing Sony did to get these phones recognized to consumers. I really hope Sony puts an XP2 on the market in 2014. I'd be willing to pay full price for it. In the meantime, I bought 2 new XP1's (Verizon) from the web in case they never make this type of phone again - this way I can continue to enjoy this product for years. I would love to speak to someone at Sony who would be willing to listen to my pitch about why they should make an XP2. I have many valid reasons & brilliant strategies....and Sony would make a nice profit as a result. It would really be a loss/shame/disappointment if there was never an XP2. Please Sony, I beg you! :crying:
Interesting Sony Mobile email survey I received yesterday....
...it took me 20 minutes to fill out. They asked what type of Sony phone I had. After I selected Xperia Play, I was asked questions about how I liked the phone, do I like the games on it, what do I do most with it, am I happy with the specs(let them know 400mb internal for a gaming phone was not enough), and a bunch of other questions.... I also told them that they needed to market the phone a lot more since most of my friends didn't even know this phone existed when it was on the market. So there's still hope for an XP2 maybe....this was a positive sign to me in the fact that they included the Xperia Play on the list of phones.....I'm still praying!
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Like you I've also been scouring the web every couple weeks to see if Sony plans to pursue an XP2. All they need to do is put a product spin on the original design - supe up the hardware a bit, add more internal memory, and update the casing for it to look a bit more modern - I don't think that's too much to ask(or just tweak the Z1 or Vita to make it a gaming phone with slideout gamepad). I don't think an XP2 would interfere with their Vita sales - XP2 is an all in one device and it's brilliant - it's not a dedicated gaming device - there's a big difference. It's also driving me nuts that they won't pursue an XP2 (at least from what the majority have said) - in fact, it blows my mind that they're not considering it. Android gaming is huge & growing by leaps & bounds. After I rooted my XP1, I have all the emulators installed including the Nintendo DS one. I've got Facebook, Linked In, Netflix, Tune In Radio Pro, plus a bunch of other apps and also a big inventory of games mostly Xperia Play Optimized. The phone is very unique and a brilliant product. Some people whine about the specs, poor support, etc... but I've never had a problem with it and I enjoy using it every day. I've seen sites that have concept/prototype XP2's with pics and suggested specs...Sony has a very unique market niche here and if they create/produce/market an XP2 right it will be a huge hit! There is NO way I'm going to get another phone AND carry around a Moga or some other bluetooth gamepad controller when I know the XP1 is an all in one device. Who wants to carry a phone and a gamepad controller in their pockets? Not me - it's just not practical. When I showed my XP1 to friends they had never heard of the phone and wanted to get one. This shows the poor marketing Sony did to get these phones recognized to consumers. I really hope Sony puts an XP2 on the market in 2014. I'd be willing to pay full price for it. In the meantime, I bought 2 new XP1's (Verizon) from the web in case they never make this type of phone again - this way I can continue to enjoy this product for years. I would love to speak to someone at Sony who would be willing to listen to my pitch about why they should make an XP2. I have many valid reasons & brilliant strategies....and Sony would make a nice profit as a result. It would really be a loss/shame/disappointment if there was never an XP2. Please Sony, I beg you! :crying:
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I agree with what's all being said here to be honest I never heard of this phone until my contract was up I seen Verizon had this phone, and free for my upgrade brand new gaming control pad built in I was sold. I was at cook out earlier this summer and I was bored so I figured I'd jump on gta VC I was instantly the focus of attention to the gamers they wanted to know what game device I had blah blah until I showed them it was actually a phone then where they could get one what carrier I had if other carriers had it so on and so forth. I think if Sony marketed it right and being that the ps4 is just releasing I think the xp 2 would be a idea again if marketed right, but as for gaming wise tho ics didn't handle many games very well and gb is almost a figment of imagination to most people who know about Android fw and almost always want the new hotness (Kit Kat) and not the old and busted (gb). Granted gb is perfect for stability but let's face it the UI sucks cm 9 and 10 its much easier to make the UI look completely different with themes and well cm7 granted was OK but bombed gaming wise
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http://www.icontrolpad.com/home
Has anyone else seen this yet? I've been hoping for someone to make a bluetooth gamepad that can attach to your phone... only one ever made before was the MSI BGP100, but it's been discontinued and unavailable for years, and it was a terrible design anyways.
But this new bluetooth gamepad looks awesome... it has upgradeable firmware, 3 different bluetooth profiles to begin with so it'll be compatible with almost any bluetooth device, it even has a nice sized lithium-ion battery that can charge your device while you're attached to it. It has a bt keyboard profile so right away any phone and emulator that can support using bt keyboard keys as buttons will work, but analogue sticks won't work with that profile.
But once more emulator devs start putting support for this gamepad in their emulators, everything can be used, including being able to display how much power is left in gamepads battery.
I just ordered myself one to use with Android on my HD2... this will be an awesome gamepad once more support is written into emulators. For any emulator devs, I believe the manufacturer will send a free development unit for testing and writing support into your apps.
Anyone else order one? The great thing is that it has upgradeable firmware and changeable clamps, so it can be made compatible with any devices or BT profiles in the future... so if you're a gamer, it's definitely a good investment.
How did this work out? I was thinking about getting one for my Nexus One.
It looks great but the site looks so sketchy :/
Apparently it's all good. Didn't realize it was so widely covered on other sites ha
Expensive but damn it looks nice...I am intersted.
Thanks for sharing!
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How did this work out? I was thinking about getting one for my Nexus One.
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I'm still waiting for it to be delivered.... they just finished producing it a few weeks ago and they've had people pre-ordering for a couple months, and being a small company, they're still catching up on shipping out all the orders. This is the same company that created the Pandora, that open-source linux based portable game system/computer... which is also a really cool item I would get if I had the money. It'll probably be another week or 2 before I recieve the controller, as I didn't pay the extra money for fast shipping.
This is definitely a legit company, and they've been sending free controllers to any emulator developers or other developers interested in developing for the controller or adding full support to their emulators. I guess it was originally being made mainly for the iPhone, and was going to use the iphone connector and have bluetooth as a bonus that would be able to be put into use later down the road with firmware updates to allow it to be used with android and other devices, but Apple doesn't allow the use of their connector unless it's certified by them, and they told them that they wouldn't certify them, so they had to scrap the apple connector and make it strictly bluetooth. I guess apple had even went and patented basicly the same gamepad design as the original iControlPad designs, so anyone else trying to make a similar gamepad that clamps on to phone will have apple after them. Luckily the iControlPad had plans publicly released before the apple patent, so they're safe from apple suing them.
I've been reading a lot and keeping up at their forums, and from everything I've read, this is a VERY sturdy and well built, quality gamepad. I guess it is made to withstand being thrown against a wall, even. I'm very excited about getting mine, and have wanted a gamepad like this for a while. And with the battery, it'll make my HD2 last twice as long while gaming. And with upgradeable firmware and multiple BT profiles, it'll probably be compatible or can be made compatible with any new phone or device I get in the future. It'll work out of the box with android emulators using the keyboard profile, and more emulators are adding full support all the time, allowing the analog controls to be used as well.
I'll post a review with pictures once I get my iControlPad in the mail.
looks cool. can't wait to see whether it really works out for you.
damn that looks coo. i hope it works out.
Update on Android development for iControlPad..... the developer of the gamepro driver (the driver that allows the MSI BGP100 bluetooth gamepad to work with android) has become a member at the iCP forums and has an iControlPad on the way to him, at which point he will be adding support for the iCP to his GamePro drivers. This will help make this gamepad more easily used for many games and emulators on android.
This works great! My collegue has it. I want to have it !!
Good concept but sadly we won't see it very wide spread. Sony's xperia play will also knock it out the market.
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Good concept but sadly we won't see it very wide spread. Sony's xperia play will also knock it out the market.
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The Xperia play is just one phone.... with this you can turn any phone into an xperia play. And can use it with your computer and multiple devices. I think it will become more popular once xperia play hits and there's more quality games available for android that can use a gamepad. A lot of people don't want a gamepad built-in to their device all the time, but want a good gamepad for when they want to game. And with the built-in battery, it makes up for the fact that games eat your battery quickly.
I think this gamepad will get pretty popular once more apps support it and it's more known. They only just had the first 1000 made and began shipping less than a month ago. There's no other product that matches what this gamepad can do. And it's very well built and very versatile. I would take this gamepad and my HD2 over an xperia play any day. And I'll be using this gamepad for every phone I get in the future, too.
And seriously, the xperia play? How is that phone even gonna compete with the new generation of phones coming out? For being a new, high-end phone, it's not much of an upgrade from my HD2 that's already well over a year old... actually, I don't think it's an upgrade at all. And lets wait and see how long the xperia's battery lasts while gaming.
Yay!! I got notification that my iControlPad got shipped. The reason it took so long was because they were waiting for their next batch of iCPs to be manufactured and delivered. They're a small company, so they are getting them made in batches of 1000 at a time, and their first batch was probably mostly sold out from pre-orders, so that first 1000 went fast. Hopefully now that their mostly caught up with orders and everything, and now that they have more stock in, anyone putting in orders shouldn't have to wait so long for their order to be shipped. I was just unlucky enough to catch them right after the first batch sold out. I actually e-mailed them a few days ago and found out why my order was taking so long, and that it would be going out soon, so I decided to add another gamepad to my order so that they could ship it in the same box and wouldn't have to pay for shipping on the 2nd gamepad. I figure either my brother will want it, or if he didn't, someone here at xda would probably be interested.
I didn't pay for the more expensive shipping, so it'll probably still be a week or 2 til I get it, but once I do, I'm going to do a review of it with detailed pictures to post in this thread for anyone that's interested.
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Yay!! I got notification that my iControlPad got shipped. The reason it took so long was because they were waiting for their next batch of iCPs to be manufactured and delivered. They're a small company, so they are getting them made in batches of 1000 at a time, and their first batch was probably mostly sold out from pre-orders, so that first 1000 went fast. Hopefully now that their mostly caught up with orders and everything, and now that they have more stock in, anyone putting in orders shouldn't have to wait so long for their order to be shipped. I was just unlucky enough to catch them right after the first batch sold out. I actually e-mailed them a few days ago and found out why my order was taking so long, and that it would be going out soon, so I decided to add another gamepad to my order so that they could ship it in the same box and wouldn't have to pay for shipping on the 2nd gamepad. I figure either my brother will want it, or if he didn't, someone here at xda would probably be interested.
I didn't pay for the more expensive shipping, so it'll probably still be a week or 2 til I get it, but once I do, I'm going to do a review of it with detailed pictures to post in this thread for anyone that's interested.
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Ill be looking foward to this review. ive been looking for something to play with on my vibrant. i feel like ive maxed out my vibrants abilities and would love to add this to its resume.
looks good i like it
Eagerly waiting for a review If it's ANY good, gonna order one right now.
Hopefully I'll get it soon. I didn't pay the extra $25 for the faster shipping, as the cheaper shipping was already $25. It's coming from the UK, and can take 2 or 3 weeks with the cheap shipping. But they did allow me to add a 2nd gamepad to the order without costing any more for shipping, so I'm going to have one iCP that I can sell to a fellow xda member from the US. That way someone can save a couple bucks on shipping and get it within a few days instead of a few weeks (or couple months like I'm having to wait... but they said they've caught up on their orders and have new stock, so any orders placed now will be shipped within 2 days... I was unlucky enough to order right after they quickly sold out of their first batch of 1000 gamepads, and had to wait for 2nd batch to be manufactured, which took a while because they are a small company and there was some fixes made to 2nd batch.)
I'll update this thread and make review as soon as I get my order. I'll do an unboxing with pics for you guys. I think this Gamepad is going to be very popular once it gets more known... it's definitely the best quality and most versatile attachable gamepad that will probably ever be made for phones. Upgradeable firmware, multiple BT profiles, huge battery which can also power the attached phone.... can't get better than that.
I finally got my iControlPads in the mail yesterday! They are nice! Well worth the wait and money. I'll be posting the review in this thread in the next couple days.
I am very satisfied and glad I got it... it's well built, so I think it'll last me through several phones. I can't imagine anyone else creating a more versatile or better gamepad anytime soon.
Wow, That's awesome
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I finally got my iControlPads in the mail yesterday! They are nice! Well worth the wait and money. I'll be posting the review in this thread in the next couple days.
I am very satisfied and glad I got it... it's well built, so I think it'll last me through several phones. I can't imagine anyone else creating a more versatile or better gamepad anytime soon.
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If possible, could you see if the Nexus One would fit in the controller? Its specs can be found (url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_One)here(/url). Thanks!
Nice Idea, but the quality doesn't seems to be the best
Hey xda,
So my last phone was a iPhone 3GS (16GB) that I used from October 2009 - April 2012. The phone did darn well and I've never had a phone that I've used that long, but again I never had a phone that expensive either before the 3GS. So iOS got damn boring, the phone got sluggish and there was something wrong with the sim card tray and the wifi hence I decided to pick up an Android phone which happens to be the HOX.
I've created this thread just to share my opinion on how its going on for me so far, how different it is using Android and the HOX. Keep in mind I am comparing a roughly 3 year old phone with the latest iOS to the HOX.
Honestly there isn't much I miss from iOS, maybe the ability to add more than 10 alarms(out of the box not talking about other apps), but thats all I can think of really. Maybe installous for you know what..
Android is just better than iOS in loads of ways, I'll list a few that strike me now and a few things I miss:
1)Setting a Custom Ringtone
This is a total pain in the ass in iOS. I would rather jailbreak my phone and get ringtones from cydia than make the mp3 I have a ringtone and connect a cable to phone and convert that cut mp3 to a ringtone file. Nonsense.
On the HOX I was able to trim a mp3 I had and make it a ringtone right off the phone, so convenient that is.
2)iTunes
I hate iTunes. I hate making my PC connect to my phone via iTunes and the whole sync bs that I've to go through. I like being able to copy paste songs, images and whatever I have than do all the crap required for an iPhone. I would use iTunes as a music player for my PC but thats about it, I hated dealing with it for my iPhone.
I know lots of people who "can't live" without iTunes, but I aint one of them. The best feature I like about iTunes is probably you installing a iTunes remote app to your iPhone and controlling your PC music off your phone via wifi, thats the best thing maybe.
Android is weird in a way though, I don't know if its now or it has always been this way but getting apps to your phone only via wifi? What if you don't have wifi? Play Store doesn't give me an option to download the app to my computer. iTunes and App store is better that way maybe.
3)Contacts
iCloud or whatever its called came to the iOS much much later than Android had their Google Contacts. Thats just too convenient. Besides who doesn't have a gmail account these days? And all you have to do to get your settings and contacts back is add your google account. Thats just too convenient. Android is a pure winner that way imo.
One thing I hate though is the really crap quality photos that get synced to Google Contacts and sometimes how Contacts isn't smart enough to link contacts properly.
Eg:I have [email protected] in my Gmail and Abc from my contacts. It will show up as [email protected] instead of Abc
4)Play Store
I mentioned not liking the fact I can't get an app on my pc and then transfer it to my phone, but one thing that I like about the play store is being able to start/queue app downloads on my phone without even touching it.
5)Lockscreen
Lockscreen for Android is just more productive. iOS added that camera shortcut recently. I think its sense, but its damn cool to be able to access any four apps I want directly from the lockscreen.
6)Alarms
I need loads of alarms to wake up, and iOS allowed me to put a lot of them. I used to have 30-40 a day. Sense/Android does not allow more than 10 out of the box.
7)Widgets
Its nice to have widgets rather than a whole bunch of apps to scroll through.
8)Music
I could access iPod or music in iOS just by double tapping the home-screen button twice. There's no such thing possible on the HOX.
9)Airplane Mode
Switching to Airplane mode was faster on iOS than Android. But thats something I can live with xD.
10)Hotspot
Creating a hotspot was easy for iPhone 4 or 4S but wasn't possible on the 3GS unless you got an app from cydia called myWI. Thats just ridiculous imo. Setting a iOS restraint on a older device.
11)Keyboard
Even though the screen of the HOX is huge compared to the 3GS, the iOS keyboard has a bigger spacebar to tap on. With the stock keyboard on the HOX I kept missing space and hitting '.'.
But then again Android you can choose amongst so many keyboards without any hassle. I used swiftkey and now I'm using swype, both are awesome imo.
12)Customization
There’s lots of customization possible on Android, with or without rooting.
Things I miss about the 3GS:
1)Silent Button
This was just awesome imo, every "phone" should have this.
2)Battery
It did give me much more battery life than the HOX smaller screen or not.
3)Top-notch Hardware?
I used, fiddled and played with the Silent button on the iPhone a lot for around 800 days and it was still perfect. The lock button was good too.
The home button wasn't responsive after a year or so but still very usable towards the end. The sim card tray was cheap and messed up towards the end.
But I dropped it a LOT of times and even in small puddles of water I remember and it survived all that.
The HOX on the other hand, has this weird buzz/noise after a haptic feedback response. There's a rattling sound if I shake the phone. One corner near the capacitative panel was creaking in the beginning, seems fixed or maybe I don't notice it anymore. I dropped the HOX once and there's this tiny crack in the corner. I really hope it lasts me at least 2 years.
4)Heating or rather Cooling
I played a lot of games on my iPhone, it did get a little heated after gaming for 30 minutes straight or so but thats it.
HOX gets so heated after using a browser on 2G for 20 minutes? Also gets heated while gaming. Gets heated so much that it doesn't charge, thats just a complete annoyance to me.
Besides I have to choose between charging my phone and using my phone, thats damn stupid. I've read that the 2.05 leak fixes this, I'm on ARHD 7.1.0 which is based on the leak and I've still faced the heating problems.
I know its packing a quad-core in such a slim device there isn't much space for cooling but then again if heating problems like those are to be faced then this chip Tegra3 doesn't belong in a phone.
5)Speaker
The speaker on the 3GS was placed at the bottom edge whereas the One X has it’s speaker placed at the back which is quite easy to block. The speaker placement and quality of the 3GS was undoubtedly better.
6)Charging Speed
3GS charged faster than the HOX. I’ve read the 2.05 base it charges faster, have yet to see that.
7)Software Support from Manufacturer
3GS is probably the only iPhone that will get 3 updates it came with 3 and got updates to 4 and 5 and is getting a update to 6 too. I doubt I’ll see that much from HTC.
What I like about the HOX:
It would have been easy to figure from my above statements that I like Android better than iOS, now its time to list a few things that I like about the HOX.
1)Camera
I love the Camera on this thing, I’m not a pro photographer or anything but the camera on this is really awesome. And it has a flash, my 3GS didn’t have a flash but my phones before the 3GS did so that was pretty odd.
2)The Screen
The Screen is just gorgeous on this. Its a pleasure to watch videos or look at pictures or use the internet. Most impressive.
3)Body
I like the matte body of the HOX and how solid it feels. The only gripe regarding the body would be the protruding camera lens that is easy to scratch. I haven’t put on a screen protector yet as I’ve read most of them don’t cover the screen completely because of the curved edges.
4)micro-USB port
This is a really really handy thing because not everyone I hang out with will have a iPhone charger, but most of the phones have a micro-USB port so theres a good change of finding that at a friend or relative’s place.
5)Quad-Core Fast
I love the speed of the HOX, I doubt I will ever feel it becoming sluggish. I plan to underclock/undervolt it to get more battery life once I figure out how.
6)32GB
26GB but yea, its a huge plus to have that much data storage.
7)Dev and Community Support
It feels really really good to have so much support from this awesome xda community and developers. One of the really good parts of getting this phone is the awesome support and multitude of custom roms, tweaks and mods available.
8)THD Games
I’m not a fan of games on touch screen phones anymore unless its an arcade game, but THD powered games are a plus no doubt, just doesn’t matter to me.
Things I wish are fixed with the HOX would be heating problems and better battery life. I’m going to try undervolting to get more battery life once I figure out how. But thats it. I’ve been taking good care of the phone, have ordered a Rock TPU case for it.
Thats it guys. Thank you XDA for all the support and more that will come.
That was a nice objective comparison, thanks.
With regards to updates, Apple have produced 5 phones in 5 years, it's easier for them to produce updates for longer. I think HTC are going to be producing fewer phones now, maybe that will help.
You'll find the community here will create updates for a while, I think the One X is going to have a large, active community for quite some time.
Personally I don't have the overheating problems that some do, been using the phone for an hour and it's barely warmer than the back of my hand.
Hi
Just a couple of things I picked up on:
You can add a widget (there a several of them supplied by HTC which are just buttons essentially) which will allow to switch flight mode with one button press. There is also a profile button which will lot you switch to silent or vibrate mode easily as well.
Regards
Phil
You're right, it is easier for Apple to get out updates more than HTC or others but it is something I'll miss i.e Official Support
But then we have awesome devs here so all is good
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Hi
Just a couple of things I picked up on:
You can add a widget (there a several of them supplied by HTC which are just buttons essentially) which will allow to switch flight mode with one button press. There is also a profile button which will lot you switch to silent or vibrate mode easily as well.
Regards
Phil
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Hey Phil,
I know about those widgets, I'm using them. Still switching to Airplane mode is slower i.e the time it takes for all connections to go off is slower vs airplane mode on iOS (or atleast what iOS shows)
And regarding the widget for silent mode, I'm using that too . Just nothing beats a hardware button to put your phone on silent mode.
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Hey Phil,
I know about those widgets, I'm using them. Still switching to Airplane mode is slower i.e the time it takes for all connections to go off is slower vs airplane mode on iOS (or atleast what iOS shows)
And regarding the widget for silent mode, I'm using that too . Just nothing beats a hardware button to put your phone on silent mode.
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We can using the volume keys I know it's not the same but technically near enough, it is good though I've got the same button on the iPad and although useless for that device pretty cool you can switch quickly.
But plenty of widgets available to achieve the desired result.
Good write up on both OS's. Both have their pros and cons and it's good to see no fanboy bashing of either device.
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thank you for the senseful and nag free comments
Thanks for that honest and fair report.
Just picking up on your comment regarding Google compressing image backups.
I recommend getting dropbox that will automatically backup your photos without any compression or alteration whatsoever.
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You can customise till you drop on Android devices. For example with a custom rom like viperX, you can customise the buttons for example long press home and you can assign an action or even launch an app, or just use apex launcher or nova launcher no root needed for these and you can apply gestures, so swiping up can open the music app. I find these gestures very useful for my commonly used actions, I've got swipe down to show me battery, swipe up to open my music, etc and you can even put gestures on the dock icons.
That will give you back some functionality you had with the double tap home button on iOS.
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I think if a person is kind of more than an casual user - want to study how to root, install custom staff..., would love android more. If he just picks a phone from store, then use it, better to take iphone
Thank guys. I was going for a unbiased opinion.
@nikzdhd
Yea the silent button works as a orientation lock for the iPad so its damn handy.
I'll try to get some gestures running soon, there was a similar thing on iOS after JBing it, called Activator. My Android Journey has just begun haha xD
@hamdir
Anything about the One X has to be 'sense'ful imo
I'm not the type to bash on this device without any reason. I love the One X. Despite the haptic feedback noise and stuck pixel I'm not that keen on getting it exchanged.
@stuart001
Dropbox will backup my pics with the same quality, that I've seen but I was talking about how the Photos I snapped with my phone and assigned to a contact get converted or compressed when synced with Google Contacts.
@1phuong
You're right about picking an iPhone if you're not going to mess around with it and want out of the box functionality. Thats why I even recommend iPhone over Android phones to people who aren't that keen on f***ing around with custom roms and kernels to get more out of their device .i.e if they're not geeks
However there are still loads of people who are geeks but go for iPhones either because of their fanboyism or their ignorance to how cool Android is.
Beyond a point there isn't much you can do in iOS but Android is just awesome. There's loads more of messing around I have yet to do. Undervolting is one of them xD.
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Thank guys. I was going for a unbiased opinion.
@nikzdhd
Yea the silent button works as a orientation lock for the iPad so its damn handy.
I'll try to get some gestures running soon, there was a similar thing on iOS after JBing it, called Activator. My Android Journey has just begun haha xD
@hamdir
Anything about the One X has to be 'sense'ful imo
I'm not the type to bash on this device without any reason. I love the One X. Despite the haptic feedback noise and stuck pixel I'm not that keen on getting it exchanged.
@stuart001
Dropbox will backup my pics with the same quality, that I've seen but I was talking about how the Photos I snapped with my phone and assigned to a contact get converted or compressed when synced with Google Contacts.
@1phuong
You're right about picking an iPhone if you're not going to mess around with it and want out of the box functionality. Thats why I even recommend iPhone over Android phones to people who aren't that keen on f***ing around with custom roms and kernels to get more out of their device .i.e if they're not geeks
However there are still loads of people who are geeks but go for iPhones either because of their fanboyism or their ignorance to how cool Android is.
Beyond a point there isn't much you can do in iOS but Android is just awesome. There's loads more of messing around I have yet to do. Undervolting is one of them xD.
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really awesome given that you dont even use this device for its gaming power even!
i always have trouble with iOS people and that is they fail to see the bright side and just nag about the lack or imperfections of the things they loved the most on iOS
and i tell them if you want it exactly like iOS why did u even switch..
There is a reason behind not being able to download an app to your pc and then sync it to your phone. The compatibility filtering is done by the play store, so if you have one phone with hw keyboard and one without hw keyboard you'll be able to install an app which requires hw keyboard (or specific screen size, or whatever) on both phones regardless of their compatibility. If you have filtering on the pc, then you'll have to have an Android iTunes equivalent and noone wants that, right ?
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really awesome given that you dont even use this device for its gaming power even!
i always have trouble with iOS people and that is they fail to see the bright side and just nag about the lack or imperfections of the things they loved the most on iOS
and i tell them if you want it exactly like iOS why did u even switch..
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Well the main problem with most 'iOS people' lol xD is that they're the type to believe that Apple cannot make a mistake whatsoever and "It is the best". Wrong that attitude is. Its not only iPhones, its these Apple Fanboys in general. There are these rich pricks who who'll go get a 15" MacBook Pro to do what? Surf the web, make word docs and ppts max.
On the other hand if a person into video/graphics editing comes and asks me if an MBP is good, I give them a go ahead because of the kickass softwares that OSX has for them such as FCP etc.
Coming back to iDevices, 4S was horrible upgrade. Old design with a new camera, processor and a beta voice assistant, no thanks.
They're running out of innovations imo. They shoved a retina display for their new iPad and even the MacBooks. Wtf really? I had no problem whatsoever with the iPad 2 display(used a friends iPad 2 quite a bit). It was gorgeous imo, they didn't need to make it retina. Same goes for the MBP, didn't have a problem with that display either. Maybe its the lack of Steve Jobs but Apple has failed to impress me lately. iOS6 doesn't seem that great to me.
HTC really upped them by coming out with this beautiful design that is the One x . They should have put prettier packaging though xP
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There is a reason behind not being able to download an app to your pc and then sync it to your phone. The compatibility filtering is done by the play store, so if you have one phone with hw keyboard and one without hw keyboard you'll be able to install an app which requires hw keyboard (or specific screen size, or whatever) on both phones regardless of their compatibility. If you have filtering on the pc, then you'll have to have an Android iTunes equivalent and noone wants that, right ?
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That makes a lot of sense. Thank you. But they still should give an option to custom filter out a .apk from the online play store maybe?
I'll tell you why I'm stressing on this. I wanted to download this game which was around 500mb in size and I didn't have wifi then, all I had was a 2G plan on my phone and access to internet via ethernet. Downloading off 2G would have taken ages and 3G consumption would have set me back by quite some money. It made sense to get the .apk from the comp and then transfer it but I couldn't.
You could have always used internet pass through?
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That makes a lot of sense. Thank you. But they still should give an option to custom filter out a .apk from the online play store maybe?
I'll tell you why I'm stressing on this. I wanted to download this game which was around 500mb in size and I didn't have wifi then, all I had was a 2G plan on my phone and access to internet via ethernet. Downloading off 2G would have taken ages and 3G consumption would have set me back by quite some money. It made sense to get the .apk from the comp and then transfer it but I couldn't.
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No app will ever be 500 MB What you need to do is download that app (around 10-15 MB) and it will download data that goes into SDcard. You can download that data from PC too if you know what to search
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Well the main problem with most 'iOS people' lol xD is that they're the type to believe that Apple cannot make a mistake whatsoever and "It is the best". Wrong that attitude is. Its not only iPhones, its these Apple Fanboys in general. There are these rich pricks who who'll go get a 15" MacBook Pro to do what? Surf the web, make word docs and ppts max.
On the other hand if a person into video/graphics editing comes and asks me if an MBP is good, I give them a go ahead because of the kickass softwares that OSX has for them such as FCP etc.
Coming back to iDevices, 4S was horrible upgrade. Old design with a new camera, processor and a beta voice assistant, no thanks.
They're running out of innovations imo. They shoved a retina display for their new iPad and even the MacBooks. Wtf really? I had no problem whatsoever with the iPad 2 display(used a friends iPad 2 quite a bit). It was gorgeous imo, they didn't need to make it retina. Same goes for the MBP, didn't have a problem with that display either. Maybe its the lack of Steve Jobs but Apple has failed to impress me lately. iOS6 doesn't seem that great to me.
HTC really upped them by coming out with this beautiful design that is the One x . They should have put prettier packaging though xP
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no im a fan of all this retina push but not in the case where they fail to produce the same ipad2 game graphics on ipad3 due to the massive amount of pixels, like one reviewer said if this happens in ps/xbox land where the new machine fails to run the game of the previous gen in the same quality, it would be a disaster
everything you said about apple people is true and its really sickening and tiring, in life you have tons of choice in every consumer thing you purchase
every product has its ups and down, yet iPeople they gather in the corner all holding the exact same thing and giggle at everyone else
its insulting, spoiled and ignorant
apple products their presnesation and videos, have some sort of psychological effect or something, the elite thing
believe me i have no problem in trying iPhone 5 if it was worth it but i wouldn't simply because i hate to be part of that group and accept the monopoly Apple is aggressively pursuing, its almost like dictatorship
mac book pro, same old same old since ages now, the lack of "change" is seriously boring, and why is originality and "change" something that the critics consider in their review, a perfect game might get a bad score for not being new or original and yet in the apple land, its not an issue
@CoSaWa What do you mean by internet pass through?
@realunited123 yes the app was small, but the download that the app had to do was 500mb or so .. I tried looking for .apks, but it was too much work or maybe I didn't look in the right places.
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@CoSaWa What do you mean by internet pass through?
@realunited123 yes the app was small, but the download that the app had to do was 500mb or so .. I tried looking for .apks, but it was too much work or maybe I didn't look in the right places.
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Internet pass through : Connect your phone to PC, select internet pass through from notification bar. Lets you transfer data through PC network.
After having my Fire phone for almost 3 weeks, I am relatively happy with it.
It is a slim phone, watching video on it is a pleasure, music sounds great. If you are an Amazon Prime member, the xray feature on some TV programs which is linked in with IMDB is just way to cool.. I think this way cooler than "Dynamic Perspective," which may be a feature yet to be exploited by apps and technology which are NOT yet in the Amazon appstore.
Amazon Prime Music is being way undersold by Jeff Bezos in promoting his new phone. Why, I do not know!? From the man who wants to sell you everything, this is a big marketing mistake in the world of iphones, itunes, ipods!!!! And for God's sakes, he owns Audible now, he should make that bargain basement now too, while he is playing Monopoly to gain control of absolutely everything fun.
Granted, my phone is more fun since gaining root, that is one reason I bought it, that and one year of extra Prime, the chance to throwaway a locked Samsung Galaxay S3 with crappy Boost mobile service. I never thought it was that great a phone, anyway.
Unlimited cloud storage of photos.
And by the way, Does anyone listen to all the iPhone fanboys complain about horrible battery life on their latest iteration of the iPhone? I thought Apple took care of that early on? All I'm saying, this is the FIRST Amazon phone. You don't have to be a fan, you can still love whatever iteration of iPhone out there (and still be apron-stringed to i-Tunes) or love your favorite Android...
Yes complaints that Amazon wants to sell you a store and not a phone, I ***** about that every time I buy a new PC with bundled so ftware.
To me, an iPhone is more paralyzing than either a Fire phone or generic android, and a Fire phone, rooted, is the best of android devices, but still some annoying features.
I have to agree with you. I work for o2 and I had the device 4 weeks before the realise date for 3 days.
Have to say I loved it, It just oozes pure quality much like, and I hate to say it... iPhone's except the build quality.
When I was using it all I could think of was "this would be amazing with the full play store on".
Now I can see Root access, it may not be a dream.
I have told a lot of people about this phone, me being very surprised.
A little hard to get your head around the OS butas Dilbert says, Its a store with a built in phone.
From an analytic point of view, Amazon have missed the boat on this.
A good 55% of consumers have brand loyalty, 20% follow them, 10-15% have the same but can not afford to have their 1st choice so opt for the closest and probably oldest. The rest take anything.
Now you might get some Kindle users wanting 1 but most would still rather have the iPhone etc,.....
They should target them 10-15% in price but not at £399.99 ($650). If I lost my phone or didn't have the money to get a new HTC or iPhone, Had £400 in my pocket............ I'd go and buy the Moto G2.
If they're planning on making money from their stores, they should focus on that lower the price and let word of mouth do the talking because they have the hardware to back it up.
Great phone, great first attempt.
It boggles my mind to think there has been no xperia play current. What stops other manufacturers (eg. samsung?) from making a similar phone? Is there a patent issue? license problem? there is a market for it, and technology is there.
There are replacements, made buy companies in shenzhen, china.
The most recent is the 78p01 or MUCH w1 I just bought it from aliexpress.com and it will be shipped in the coming weeks. I am excited to try it out. As the last MUCH product i bought was better than expected
I never knew that. I never check the forum for the updates. thanks for you input
I was keen on known manufacturers.
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I never knew that. I never check the forum for the updates. thanks for you input
I was keen on known manufacturers.
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Much W1 / iReadyGo 78dian p01 Gaming Phone - Quic…: http://youtu.be/QvfvqGr26P4
Looks good to me.
those chinese phones look hideous. the controls sticking out and the size just ain't doing it for me. looks like a psp first generation step child. 3g only? that's worse than the 4g play.
I actually like the design. I think it is the best designed gaming phone since the xperia play. Can't wait to try it out.
I guess it is different strokes for different folks.
Yes. The design is good, but I read from another forum that this device has showed many problems. I quote the user here:
"Now that I've used the device for a few days, I regret purchasing it, here's why:
*The analogues have a huge deadzone, it doesn't feel comfortable using them
*The L shoulder button feels different to the R shoulder button. The L shoulder button feels soft and easy to press, whereas the R shoulder button clicks down and sometimes gets caught.
*The battery cover doesnt fit on properly, its missing a clip or something
*Battery life is TERRIBLE, one moment its on 50% idle, one hour later its dead (FROM NOT USING IT)
*Frequent disconnects from wifi, the internet doesnt work properly, I'm having to reboot the device to get it to run again.
*Frequent app crashes, reboots
*SD Card JUST NOW refuses to register for no reason, the device just doesn't read it anymore.
*Phone features are in chinese, with no language settings
Very disappointed with the device, it doens't help that theres also no english support for this phone, very frustrating."
I hope this issue will be resolved.
The much i5 is better than the w1 Imo, but harder to fit in your pocket. Maybe you can stick with your old xperia play.
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thanks. I am
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fenix8, you have a W1? Gold bezel or chrome?
How often with current trends would a hardware refresh be necessary on android streaming boxes . From a developers standpoint does this cause as many issues as it would on say a xbox or ps4? I see so many people reference that Fire TV is getting long in the tooth already? It seems to me that many of the set top boxes are outdated already at release to keep the cost down? In there current state can they really compete in the gaming arena with the likes of Microsoft or Sony? I am A laymen when it comes to development but would love to learn what a dev has to do to put a game on Fire TV or Google Play?
These days, most electronic devices are obsolete after a few months, but not to me. I use my electronics til they stop working or I get something new. I still have an original Apple TV that I use all the time. Do not ever let people tell you when you need to replace your device. If it works, use it. A good example of this is the Galaxy Note 4 on AT&T, I commented the other day that I never thought it would get root, cause it was already three months old and it had not happened yet, so everyday it does not happen is another day that someone is losing interest in hacking it, and that developers are always looking for the next big thing. Just me saying that got the thread closed, but its true. If the Fire TV 2 came out next week a lot of people would say our Fire TV was garbage even though it works just fine. If my Fire TV last five years then it will get used for five years, period. Don't let anyone ever tell you when your device is outdated, make that decision for yourself. Normal people would never be ready to buy a new car or home every six months, but when it comes to electronics, a lot of people wanna throw away their device every time the new thing comes out. Those people are lame as hell, and only want new phones, tablets etc, cause society tellls them its cool to have it. I am still using the first Galaxy Note and will continue to do so till it dies. I have replaced the screen and went through two batteries exploding, and its still works, so why upgade? These devices are for casual gaming, not hardcore gaming. Android boxes were never meant to compete with or replace gaming consoles. All the people that say that the Android boxes are taking over game consoles are unintelligent. Android boxes provide a different type of gaming experience then modern gaming consoles and til google decides to make an android gaming consoles they will never be able to compete with sony or microsoft. I also doubt google would ever turn Android into a big time gaming platform, but I do think google will release a gaming console in the future to compete with sony, microsoft and nintendo, just won't be an android console.
I'm actually with porkenheimer on this. I have good equipment but I've become sort of a hoarder of electronics. Lots of stuff is older than 8 years and whether it's an external hdd or an old laptop or even an iPod, I've had amazing luck fixing things and I DO find a purpose for it. I've used laptops from a decade ago as ubuntu servers, got xbmc running on some.
I actually benefitted from people discarding what they think is broken and/or obsolete.
As for aftv, I don't think the hardware is the reason development will slow down. It's more to do with Amazon's resistance to opening it up.
In fact, I have looked around, here & abroad and I've found some good possible replacements but not in the price range of aftv. The processor will be a tad less powerful with the same amount of ram or the processor and ram will be better but the price is over bloated. But for now, I don't think you'll find a faster experience for the price. Once it gets to the $200 range I'm thinking of building an htpc or investing the money elsewhere because I'm satisfied with what's happening on my TV.
Of course I think if cyanogenmod becomes a reality on aftv, the hardware will be put to better use. Fast is great but fire os, imho, is not a worthy os.
Thank you both I appreciate your words of wisdom. I agree its so easy to pile up old hardware. I don't know why the android media streamers have become such a point of interest. I currently own Fire TV, Ouya, Madcatz Mojo, Android TV ADT1, and in the end they all basically do the same thing So, yes maybe its time for me to stand back and say to myself "What exactly am I trying to do with these devices"? I do no I have been searching for that box that has all my streaming apps and games with extra power to spare? The closest I have come so far is a modified Madcatz Mojo which has HBO Go, Showtime, Starz, Encore, Netflix, Hulu, Etc. its far from perfect! I have been eyeing (though I need to Stop) the forthcoming Razer Forge or Snail Games Obox? I dont like how amazon has locked out root, and all the proprietor y parts of the OS. Eight gig of storage is a joke for anyone who likes games?
You developers out there when you release your code on a device does it have to be custom configured for each chipset you release it on? Say you upgraded fire TV to the Qualcomm 810 would each app require modification?