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On The Same Day That We Hear Of DeepFish, The Minimo Project Which Is Hosted By Mozilla Releases An Update. It Can Handle Modern Web Standards Such As Javascript And Ajax Check It Out Here.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
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Thanks for the headsup. Looks nice. A bit slower to fire up, but the features look pretty good.
the o2 wap site works incorrectly, acts like a download rather than a page.
I may need to configure this a bit more.
Thanks for the tip. Loading from the SD card takes quite a while... I'll try main memory to see what happens.
You serious? I am going to check this out now...
I am surprised, I had been reading the developer's blog and he had pretty much given up on the project saying that he didn't have time to write\update the app and that they were thinking of following another route to keep Firefox\Mozilla presence in the mobile market, but oh well, I am not complaining.
Okay, downloaded and installed -- yes, I am multi-tasking-- nice... nice... much better than the previous version. Still... uh... slow though.
Let me play with it a little more.
Thanks for the tip.
I installed it and it much better than previous verson. I might actually keep it on my 8525.
I would suggest anyone trying it first go to option and disable soft keyboard and also enable cache to storage card.
I have done several javascript testing on some sites which I know almost all mobile browser chokes on it and minimo actually breeze thur it.
It still a tad bit slow but I am impressed how it handled some of the websites now.
After playing with it last night.
I can honestly say that I am disappointed. After hitting a page earlier I decided to try again. I am a huge Firefox fan however this update left a lot to be desired. Yes, it is only Ver. 0.2 so it is far, far away from being finished.
I installed it on the memory card. Not that it should really make a difference since I have Webby and Opera installed there and they run without quibble.
I must have really bad luck since when I enter an address, all I get is another tab of empty white space.
Tried www.google.ca ... nothing.
Tried www.fido.ca ... just another empty tab.
Heck, tried clicking on preferences.... and... nothing. Just another empty tab.
Aside the Homebase tab I was not able to see anything. What happened with this thing???
Opera Mini
Does it also compress the pages like OPERA MINI?
I find that OPERA MINI is a fantastic webbrowser for PDA, due to its very good compression of the actual site..and the build in RSS reader.
And its fast...
Martinhdk said:
Does it also compress the pages like OPERA MINI?
I find that OPERA MINI is a fantastic webbrowser for PDA, due to its very good compression of the actual site..and the build in RSS reader.
And its fast...
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Uh? What are you asking exactly?
Opera Mini does not compress pages at all.
Opera gets its data from a cache servers at Opera's headquarters. Opera Mini by itself compresses nothing.
To answer your question, Minimo is a full fledge browser like Opera or PIE.
I know - but for me that does not matter anything.. I only look at how it works, and how much trafic I have to pay for.
And if Minimo or other Mob Browsers does not use any compression tools - I believe they will generate far to much trafic, to become any serious alternative...
I pay around 1½ Euro for a MB and when roaming - I do not even dare to investigate prices... hehe
But I find it cool to get new browsers and I might use another when on WIFI - perhaps Minimo
I found that Opera Mini, is not the best compared to the full fledge browsers.
However interesting how things change to different people around the world. Over here in Canada, I am one of the few people --as the plan no longer exists-- to pay $50 for unlimited data through HSDPA. So to me the data aspect means nothing and since I tether through my laptop, well, lets just say that just yesterday alone because of my laptop, I used about 250 megs.
I am more about the usability and end user experience.
Too bad Minimo didn't seem to work with WM6.
Perhaps other people on WM6 encounter the same experience?
Seemes to still be almost unusably slow to me. Just pressing the buttons on the bottom seems to take too long. What's worse, copy/pasting URLs from my IM client into the Minimo address bar alone made it crash out at times.
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I found that Opera Mini, is not the best compared to the full fledge browsers.
However interesting how things change to different people around the world. Over here in Canada, I am one of the few people --as the plan no longer exists-- to pay $50 for unlimited data through HSDPA. So to me the data aspect means nothing and since I tether through my laptop, well, lets just say that just yesterday alone because of my laptop, I used about 250 megs.
I am more about the usability and end user experience.
Too bad Minimo didn't seem to work with WM6.
Perhaps other people on WM6 encounter the same experience?
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In Denmark you can have unlimited for $85 with "3", but then you have TV-channels along with the offer - X-series. But still its quite expensive cause one still have to pay for calls... I have an old plan with 750 minuttes a month for $85 - so to put an unlimited data plan on top would give me an incredible phone bill every month... $85+$85... And by the way. At home I have a 4mb/768kb ADSL that costs another $85...
So... KEEP EXPENSIVES LOW --- hehehe..
By the way. I find that Opera Mini is very fast, and a lot faster than the build in browser - even when its on WIFI.
hello,
i was wondering what's the best internet application apart from internet explorer, i know there's opera - is there anything else that is easy on the eyes and makes the internet experience like the desktop - in other words zooms to the size of the screen? please help, thanks.
any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.
can someone just suggest an app, please?
Opera Mobile works well.
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/
thanks for the prompt reply.
I would have answered but internet App is a loose term. Any application that connects to the internet would be an internet app. If you would have said browser I would have told you Opera, DeepFish, or JB5.
oops, you're right - sorry i meant internet browser, lol. what was i thinking?
BTW, this is another kind of thread that should be posted to the Smartphone General forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323651
deepfish?? jb5? are they good??
can someone post some links.. plz..
Deepfish is a microsoft browser that certain users who signed up for the beta have. It's currently still being developed and registration numbers aren't being handed out at this time. If you google JB5, it's the first link.
Deep fish is comparable to Opera Mini, & iPhones Safari. Same concept. True webpage that you can access and zoom in on.
i like using opera mini 4 beta the best. the full page browsing is really cool. the two downsides though is that it zaps your battery and it doesnt keep you logged into web pages
hey thanks for the reply, but when you mean it doesn't keep you logged in?
MiniMo
There's a new browser on the block that I'm surprised no one has mentioned: MiniMo. The MiniMo project is an attempt to make a Windows Mobile version of Mozilla (as in the underlying technologies used in FireFox, such as the Gecko rendering engine). So far, it's at version 0.2, but has major flaws. It grinds my Dash to a halt very often, it has too many on screen buttons, navigation is a pain in the neck without a touch screen, and it has major stability issues (ranging from the program just not starting to locking up the entire device).
While this won't help you now, it's something to look forward to, and at least its current progress is accessible, unlike JB5 and DeepFish, and at least it's free, unlike Opera Mobile.
Opera PC version got this, and it works like a charm, need a phone version of this.
Is there a browser that have a option to auto-refresh?
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I don't think you will find a browser with that option. It's reasonable to do on PC because:
1) Internet connection costs next to nothing nowaday on a PC
2) PC has more CPU power
3) PC doesn't have to worry about the battery drain issue.
All those things are not true (or partly not true) with a smartphone so that feature will be one of the last things developer put on their todo list.
there are a few sites that have auto-refresh, mostly sport scores site.
with tmob its all unlimited data, there is no cap.
u tried browser like deepfish, skyfire, teashark?
Shining Light said:
there are a few sites that have auto-refresh, mostly sport scores site.
with tmob its all unlimited data, there is no cap.
u tried browser like deepfish, skyfire, teashark?
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To be honest I tried a few share of them to write down that remark unless they added something new after all that beta testing. But as I said before that will be one the last features they have on their todo list.
All this rapid share, yadda yadda is really getting old quick. If at least a few ROM Cookers are interested. I'll setup a space on my server to allow uploads that point back to an HTTP download section. You would be responsible for uploading the file, then posting a link here on XDA that would be a direct download link. The uploads would be handled by a passworded FTP account. I have about 400gig of download to spare per month, which should be more than enough for a bunch of Roms. Either reply here or send me a PM and we can talk.
I can also set it up, so that people can go to a root folder and find all the Roms and just pick the ones they want. Heck I can even store older Roms on the server so if someone wants an old one it will be up there.
1st point, there will be no warez posted.
2nd point, you must be a recognized cooker.
Well Cookers, drop a line and let me know.
It would end up being something like this, with each cooker having his own folder.
http://captfiero.com/videos
This has been done, before, twice.
And both times, the file disappeared, or the person did, within 4 days.
Well, not Jannaa's!!!! I use it aplace4u.biz and it's AMAZING!!
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This has been done, before, twice.
And both times, the file disappeared, or the person did, within 4 days.
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The only reason I could see a person leaving is if Microsoft sent a letter saying they did not like people cooking the roms and throwing a hissy fit. I have went ahead and created the folder on my remote server and am uploading stuff right now. I have not made the ftp account for uploading, however I should be able to allow open access to what I have on there in about 2hrs.
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The only reason I could see a person leaving is if Microsoft sent a letter saying they did not like people cooking the roms and throwing a hissy fit. I have went ahead and created the folder on my remote server and am uploading stuff right now. I have not made the ftp account for uploading, however I should be able to allow open access to what I have on there in about 2hrs.
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I hate rapidshare as much as the next non premium person, so i hope this gets off the ground. people don't even use aspupload, or whatever its called..
Ok the Basic is up, http://www.captfiero.com/romsYou will have to mouse over the file name if it is too long to show up, and then just look at your tool bar to see the entire name.
If anyone see's a file that should not be there. (copyrighted) Please let me know and I will remove it.
Also if a file is something "YOU" made or prefer me not to have up, let me know and I will remove it.
I will not make the upload address public so if you want files uploaded, you can send me a PM and I will upload it, or if you are an established cooker, I will give you direct upload settings.
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I am sure my chef would love this feature, his connection sucks back home though, so if this is genuine I will start mirroring his stuff here too ... I guess the more mirrors the better, I been mirroring to 4shared and mediafire all this time... seems to work well
Just FYI tho, CRCinAU has at least around 100GB of traffic a day (may be he can correct me on this) ...
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I am sure my chef would love this feature, his connection sucks back home though, so if this is genuine I will start mirroring his stuff here too ... I guess the more mirrors the better, I been mirroring to 4shared and mediafire all this time... seems to work well
Just FYI tho, CRCinAU has at least around 100GB of traffic a day (may be he can correct me on this) ...
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He said something like that somewhere.. If you think, most rom topics get 1k+ hits per day.. and say 100 download.. a 50 meg file, that's 5gig from nowhere..
And when a new rom is out..
Well I have 1200gig total traffic allowed, I use about 400gig a month for Videos and I want to keep about 400gig aside for spikes. That leaves me about 400gig to play with. I can't mirror the entire PPC world, but the latest roms and a few add ons would be fine.
heh - where abouts is this mirror located?
At the moment, my mirroring system is handling the load quite well - I have a total of 5 mirrors around the globe (1 x EU, 3 x US, 1 x AU) and the amount of traffic is much lower than it was a month ago on the one AU server because of the way things are spread out now.
The mirroring scripts will auto-detect where the user is and send them to the nearest server (or if we don't have a server near you, we randomly pick one to share the load).
You'll notice this is why I don't have direct links to anything anymore - it's all to my download script.
Even DeviceUpdate uses this script to custom-generate it's index based on where you are
That being said, as of my typing this, since 28th August, I've served:
Release 12.11 ROMs: 270 @ 40Mb each (10.8Gb)
Release 11.2 ROMs: 38 @ 41Mb each (1.55Gb)
Device Update Sessions: 1,235 (unknown download amount)
That's pretty good for less than 4 days
Some more mirrors would be nice - although mirrors in the US are probably not as helpful as the rest of the world... There's ~1Gb of content to be mirrored and count on ~100Gb per month of traffic in a lazy month.
FYI: Developers thread options: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388819
To my knowledge it is a US based server. I am personally in Canada however it seems that US hosts are far cheaper. I'll send ya a PM with the details.
I've been noticing that most of you developers use file hosts for your ROMs. Yes that's quite reliable, but sometimes speeds are horribly slow.. One day I've noticed people will be maxing their speed, then another they will be going super slow.. Like downloading 100kb a sec instead of like 1.8mb (1.8 is the max download speed with 15mbs Internet for example).
Though a little less reliable, there's torrents you guys could set up.. With the mass amount of supporters, seeding is another way to support your ROMs, and when you got seeders, you can max out your speed always. If there's some big specific reason you guys don't, I would understand lol.
Sometimes, 2 or 3 seeders is all you need.
Mainly because I do not like my computer sitting there linked to a torrent site when there main use is for piracy. Many sites have been blocked by Homeland Security just to have to open a new site. I prefer my IP address not be sitting there when these things happen. File hosting is the safest means and there are many free ones available so several mirrors can be put up.
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Mainly because I do not like my computer sitting there linked to a torrent site when there main use is for piracy. Many sites have been blocked by Homeland Security just to have to open a new site. I prefer my IP address not be sitting there when these things happen. File hosting is the safest means and there are many free ones available so several mirrors can be put up.
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There are non-piracy bittorrent trackers out there. Additionally it isn't that hard to set one up.
ReapersDeath said:
I've been noticing that most of you developers use file hosts for your ROMs. Yes that's quite reliable, but sometimes speeds are horribly slow.. One day I've noticed people will be maxing their speed, then another they will be going super slow.. Like downloading 100kb a sec instead of like 1.8mb (1.8 is the max download speed with 15mbs Internet for example).
Though a little less reliable, there's torrents you guys could set up.. With the mass amount of supporters, seeding is another way to support your ROMs, and when you got seeders, you can max out your speed always. If there's some big specific reason you guys don't, I would understand lol.
Sometimes, 2 or 3 seeders is all you need.
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Better yet, newer clients support "web seeds" which allow the client to download over HTTP in addition to anything it can get from the swarm. In the worst case scenario (no peers) the user will still be able to complete the download. Also, Cyanogenmod already offers torrents at get.cm.
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There are non-piracy bittorrent trackers out there. Additionally it isn't that hard to set one up.
Better yet, newer clients support "web seeds" which allow the client to download over HTTP in addition to anything it can get from the swarm. In the worst case scenario (no peers) the user will still be able to complete the download. Also, Cyanogenmod already offers torrents at get.cm.
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Then what is needed is a thread explaining how to set this up and with which free safe sites. It is more common knowledge on setting up a dev-host or androidfilehost account and just upload then to set up bittorrent trackers.
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kennyglass123 said:
Then what is needed is a thread explaining how to set this up and with which free safe sites. It is more common knowledge on setting up a dev-host or androidfilehost account and just upload then to set up bittorrent trackers.
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Not all are for piracy. Not to mention that should be coming to a halt soon. Apparently several Internet providers signed a contract about a 6 strike thing. The government refused to make it a law, but anyways, downloading ILLEGAL pirated torrents will now result in strikes. You will be warned in the mail. First 3 are warnings and then the last 3 are bad news. If you hit 6 total, your Internet is slowed to a crawl. (my friends deep in the torrent community). Anyways, there's a couple different sides of torrents.. The piracy side, and then the actual file sharing side.. As you guys are the owners and makers of the ROMs, you can share them as you feel, ie, the original purpose of torrents. Bittorrent is quite nice Imo. I'll post some info on how to do some of this stuff.
And also, if you own a sever, you could have the server seed or host the torrent instead of using your bandwidth.
I mainly only brought this up because dev host is some times so slow that it could take like 3 hours sometimes..
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i have to agree with this. torrents are just easier, and much faster. file hosting, i'm sitting there waiting an hour or 4 sometimes, depending on the hosting site, while i'm downloading a torrent at 800kb/sec. Torrents have a stereotype, but we need to stop the hate!
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i have to agree with this. torrents are just easier, and much faster. file hosting, i'm sitting there waiting an hour or 4 sometimes, depending on the hosting site, while i'm downloading a torrent at 800kb/sec. Torrents have a stereotype, but we need to stop the hate!
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Lol with most torrents i get 1.8mb a second of download speed XD takes like 5-10 mins depending.
Sadly, i only know the basics of setting up a torrent. Just open bittorrent and click create torrent, select the file, then check the box saying seed, then distribute the torrent file. People just click it, it opens a torrent program, downloads, and then automatically seeds unless cancelled. Just need to ask people to seed to show support.
so in the end, 100kb/s or 1.8MB/s? (18 just an example of some peoples max)
The issue with torrents is that not everyone knows how to setup a client and use it. There's other stuff that can complicate things too. If port forwarding isn't setup speeds can be sub-par. Also some ISPs heavily throttle bittorrent traffic regardless of its content.
Personally, ROM torrents sound like a good idea. Popular ROMs would distribute quickly on the week of release since there would be hundreds of seeds, whereas something like devhost would be slower than a snail.
There is a another downside to peer-to-peer. Viruses. Not everyone is diligent and you don't know where those computers have been.
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There is a another downside to peer-to-peer. Viruses. Not everyone is diligent and you don't know where those computers have been.
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Like sleeping with that really hot chic that has herpes, cuz she didn't have an outbreak at the time. If she's too hot to be putting out on the first date, run!
I like to break stuff!