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[Video demo] Connectivity - USB OTG, MHL, RDP, bluetooth keyboard/mouse/gamepad!

Thought this might interest owners and potential owners:
Incidentally, tried Splashtop after the video over 3G whilst out and about today - amazing! Watched a video with sound - playback was smooth. Hardly any lag via 3G in a reasonable coverage area. Also installed an antivirus to my laptop and did some other useful stuff while I was having a coffee at Bunnings - RDP on a 1280x800 screen is awesome.
I should be receiving a USB DAC in the coming week too, so will update as to whether that works or not...
UPDATE: USB DACs do NOT work with the USB OTG feature (as expected). Shame, because the cheapy one I got today sounds amazing compared to my laptop and desktops sound cards! The one I have is a HiFiMAN Express available from here for only $40. Not really for audiophiles, but for those who can appreciate better quality at a fraction of the price these are very good (I think Gizmodo linked to an audiophile review of them where he said they were 70% as good as the sound put out my a $400 sound card, not bad for what the HiFiMAN costs).

NZtechfreak said:
Thought this might interest owners and potential owners:
Incidentally, tried Splashtop after the video over 3G whilst out and about today - amazing! Watched a video with sound - playback was smooth. Hardly any lag via 3G in a reasonable coverage area. Also installed an antivirus to my laptop and did some other useful stuff while I was having a coffee at Bunnings - RDP on a 1280x800 screen is awesome.
I should be receiving a USB DAC in the coming week too, so will update as to whether that works or not...
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sorry,
can you tell me what is the model of the gamepad you use?
Thanks.

Thank you very much for this post. This pretty much seals the deal for me. I will be grabbing one soon.

After watching your video, it looks like I need to find me a nice 20"-23" LED HDMI monitor to go with my Note.

Thank you for this awesome video.
Disappointed to the fact that USB hubs don't work, specially because someone in the forum answered me to this same question saying "yes"
In fact my question was if a SB keyboard and a USB mouse can work together using a USB hub.
Could you please confirm this case?
Thnks!

Pere said:
Thank you for this awesome video.
Disappointed to the fact that USB hubs don't work, specially because someone in the forum answered me to this same question saying "yes"
In fact my question was if a SB keyboard and a USB mouse can work together using a USB hub.
Could you please confirm this case?
Thnks!
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Hey there, sorry if it wasn't clear in the video - the hub itself works fine, its just that using the hubs external power source to power portable HDDs that the Note can't supply enough power to on its own doesn't work (it does in the SGSII). I presume that KB and Mouse would work together with a hub, but unfortunately I can't confirm as I don't own models that are compatible with the Note (or the SGSII).
If anyone in Auckland has some that are compatible I'd love to try this out for people.

NZtechfreak said:
Hey there, sorry if it wasn't clear in the video - the hub itself works fine, its just that using the hubs external power source to power portable HDDs that the Note can't supply enough power to on its own doesn't work (it does in the SGSII). I presume that KB and Mouse would work together with a hub, but unfortunately I can't confirm as I don't own models that are compatible with the Note (or the SGSII).
If anyone in Auckland has some that are compatible I'd love to try this out for people.
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I can confirm that Keyboard and Mouse together work well on SGS2 using powered USB hubs, however its very unstable and sometimes freezes the phone. Hope it becomes better with ICS.
Do you mean that external HDD's can be powered by SGS2? I never thought its possible, seems I need to test that again as my HDD is NTFS formatted so wasn't recognized the last time I tried.

Prankey said:
I can confirm that Keyboard and Mouse together work well on SGS2 using powered USB hubs, however its very unstable and sometimes freezes the phone. Hope it becomes better with ICS.
Do you mean that external HDD's can be powered by SGS2? I never thought its possible, seems I need to test that again as my HDD is NTFS formatted so wasn't recognized the last time I tried.
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No, the SGSII can't supply external HDDs - I was saying that they do work with the SGSII when connected to a hub that has it's own power supply (that doesn't seem to work in the Note however...).

I don't own a hub but I was able to use a 120 gb external 2.5" USB hdd on the note with external power.
The hdd came with a y cable for additional power supply. I just used the note charger to supply power.
I had to format the hdd with fat32 of course. Win7 wouldn't do it, not with GUI and not on command line.
A app did it http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm.
Another thing was to make 1080p movies playable from the fat32 hdd. I used mkvtoolnix to split the movie into 4gb files.
https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/
With diceplayer I was able to play them without any problems.

What resolution does your laptop run at? When I installed splashtop (phone version), I get set to 1024x720 resolution (looks crappy), while my home PC is 1600x1200. I wonder if splashtop HD would allow me to use the native resolution of my PC (1600x1200)? Any way to install HD apps on the Note?

I set my laptop to run at the same resolution as Splashtop when I'm not at home (otherwise it runs in 1080p).
Don't worry, Splashtop are working on a release version for HD phones (probably just an update to the phone Splashtop) and it'll be available soon - I've been in contact with them recently.

NZtechfreak said:
I set my laptop to run at the same resolution as Splashtop when I'm not at home (otherwise it runs in 1080p).
Don't worry, Splashtop are working on a release version for HD phones (probably just an update to the phone Splashtop) and it'll be available soon - I've been in contact with them recently.
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Thanks for the info, Ill hold off on purchasing. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?

VTEChump said:
Thanks for the info, Ill hold off on purchasing. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?
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Not that I'm aware of as yet, some talented dev here needs to work it out for us!
UPDATE: USB DACs do NOT work with the USB OTG feature (as expected). Shame, because the cheapy one I got today sounds amazing compared to my laptop and desktops sound cards! The one I have is a HiFiMAN Express available from here for only $40. Not really for audiophiles, but for those who can appreciate better quality at a fraction of the price these are very good (I think Gizmodo linked to an audiophile review of them where he said they were 70% as good as the sound put out my a $400 sound card, not bad for what the HiFiMAN costs).

Thanks for this thread. Very good information.
But I think it's a bit annoying that it's not 'real' upscaled HD, but just the resolution of the Note (1280x800) being outputted to the screen.
I think Splashtop technically looks very good. But I don't like the security - it seems there is not any encryption in the software, not even the passwords!
What bandwidth does Splashtop require over a 3G connection to be stable? And how intelligent is the streamer to figure out which quality to stream in, in order to get the optimal dynamic stream without lag/pauses ?

drelle said:
Thanks for this thread. Very good information.
But I think it's a bit annoying that it's not 'real' upscaled HD, but just the resolution of the Note (1280x800) being outputted to the screen.
I think Splashtop technically looks very good. But I don't like the security - it seems there is not any encryption in the software, not even the passwords!
What bandwidth does Splashtop require over a 3G connection to be stable? And how intelligent is the streamer to figure out which quality to stream in, in order to get the optimal dynamic stream without lag/pauses ?
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Not sure what bandwidth it requires over 3G for stability, I was in a reasonable reception area at the times I've used it over 3G - may have been the amount of bandwidth on offer but the experience was really great with minimal lag (bad upload for my PC at home is the rate limiting step here).
Must be some other Splashtop users here who can chime in?

Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?

oronte said:
Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?
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+1
And if keyboard layout is other than the English version, all the special signs (%&Ç@#) works correctly?

VTEChump said:
. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?
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yes, just use an older version of Market - pull it from an old ROM. And freeze "market updater" in Tibu.
/system/app/Vending.apk

oronte said:
Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?
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Yes, they do, tried one today. Some USB mice also work, will try and connect both with the hub when I get home and see how that goes.
Will also revisit HDD connectivity too, as I have a second note Rooted with CF Root - possible that the drives weren't working because of Netchips kernel (in the same way that WiFi tether was broken).

Great video
Iwas surfing around for a page that ensures this device has definitely tv-out feature. I could not be sure for it, cause at most of the pages promoting galaxy note, it is not being said exactly..
Anyway, found here, and watched your video. now I want a galaxy note even 10 times more..
Thanks man, great job..

Laggy HDMI-out

So I tried HDMI-out on my GN2 yesterday, and while I can see the potential (Sixaxis Controller + GTA3 = awesome), it was seriously laggy, to the point that most stuff was unplayable. In addition to the input lag, there was a noticeable amount of stutter that wasn't present on the phone's screen.
Anyone find a way to fix or improve this? Is this a hardware limitation, or something a new ROM could help fix (and if so is that something we'd need the Exynos source to fix?)?
Thanks.

skochw said:
So I tried HDMI-out on my GN2 yesterday, and while I can see the potential (Sixaxis Controller + GTA3 = awesome), it was seriously laggy, to the point that most stuff was unplayable. In addition to the input lag, there was a noticeable amount of stutter that wasn't present on the phone's screen.
Anyone find a way to fix or improve this? Is this a hardware limitation, or something a new ROM could help fix (and if so is that something we'd need the Exynos source to fix?)?
Thanks.
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It could be your cable. What are you using to connect to your TV? Also, does your TV have a Game Mode? Try turning that on if it does.

ainen said:
It could be your cable. What are you using to connect to your TV? Also, does your TV have a Game Mode? Try turning that on if it does.
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I'm using this one: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...UTF8&qid=1358179914&sr=8-12&keywords=MHL+hdmi
Seems to have great reviews. I used it on a TV and also on my PC monitor, same results for both. It seems that this is an issue others have as well, as googling "galaxy note 2 hdmi lag" returns a few relevant results (but no solutions).
I'd happily pay for a nicer cable if I knew that was the issue, though..

Well the GS3 and Note 2 use an 11 pin connector. Older devices use 9 pin (I'm not exactly sure on those numbers). That could be your issue.
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ainen said:
Well the GS3 and Note 2 use an 11 pin connector. Older devices use 9 pin (I'm not exactly sure on those numbers). That could be your issue.
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Nope, I'm sure it's an 11 pin one. Pretty disappointing, I was looking forward to the desktop dock with USB and all that, but might say forget it if it's this laggy.

skochw said:
Nope, I'm sure it's an 11 pin one. Pretty disappointing, I was looking forward to the desktop dock with USB and all that, but might say forget it if it's this laggy.
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That is disappointing because I was looking forward to getting a smart dock at some point
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ainen said:
That is disappointing because I was looking forward to getting a smart dock at some point
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Same here. I was hoping to only have to fire up my desktop if I really needed to do something heavy-duty. Maybe someone else can chime in here with more input?

U need the actual 11 pin NHL adapter, the note 2 is not in the list of compatible devices
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The one I purchased specifically said 11-pin. I think if it wasn't an 11-pin adaptor, it wouldn't work at all. Problem is, it DOES work but is laggy.

From what I know for sure, beside an 11 pin NHL adapter, it requires a power cable connected to supply power during the time you stream stuff from your phone to TV, monitor, ...
This is the must.

ElpeePhablet said:
From what I know for sure, beside an 11 pin NHL adapter, it requires a power cable connected to supply power during the time you stream stuff from your phone to TV, monitor, ...
This is the must.
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Yup, I have a power cable connected. I think this is another thing that would make it just not work in the first place were it not set up right.

Need advice for Bluetooth Gamepads (8-Bitty doesn't work well)

I just received my iCade 8-Bitty controller in the mail from ThinkGeek. I'm having a bit of trouble getting it to work in the few apps I've tried.
I have successfully paired the device with the tablet, but it doesn't seem to be receiving any inputs from the controller.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35167558
According to this thread, people have used the app BluezHID to get the 8-bitty to work as a keyboard, and successfully map controls in emulators, on the Original N7.
I've tried BluezHID on my 2013 N7 to no avail, i get an error: bt socket connect failed message no matter what I try.
Seems iCade support requires "L2CAP" to work with the Bluetooth stack. Any clue if this is supported on the 2013 N7?
Has anyone else tried the 8-bitty or other iCade sticks on the 2013 N7 yet?
I will keep trying a few other game apps and see if anything works. I'll update this thread as I figure stuff out.
Edit:
Initial tests indicate that the pad connects, is seen, but in MAME4Droid, every button is read as "unknown", making mapping impossible. Will keep trying.
Edit2:
Seems BluezHID will NEVER work as they changed the way Bluetooth connects in 4.2.2 (N7 is at 4.3), it never releases the bluetooth connection. A custom ROM may fix this. *SIGH*
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Seems with 4.3 Bluetooth gamepads are near broken, I need some general advice about using Bluetooth Controllers with the 2013 Nexus 7.

Bump for title change. I need some more general advice with Bluetooth Controllers.

The best bluetooth controller I've found is the the official PS3 controller. If you have a PS3 system then you're all set. If not, you can usually get one for less than $30 brand new. There are tons of knockoffs that can cost about half or less, but it's a hit or miss with those. If you don't care about being wireless, then just get a wired controller, xbox360 controller for example, which is cheaper and will also work.

Hmm, I do have a wired 360 Controller, I would assume a USB to micro-USB adapter is required. Is there any app needed? Does it require root? Is the 2013 Nexus 7 USB-OTG capable?

Tried my XBOX360 Wired controller and a USB to Micro USB adapter that I had lying around, and did not work. Didn't even light up. Granted, I'm not sure if this adapter ever worked, but I have no clue if the 2013 N7 even has the OTG capability.
Any other ideas?

I have the steelseries free that I bought used from eBay at 35.
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Well, bought a powered USB Hub and it still didn't work with my OTG adapter, so its obviously at fault. I have another OTG Cable on the way, one recommended by an XDA forum thread, but it won't get here for a month. Blech.
I need to peruse the forums some more and see if there is a good list of Bluetooth controllers somewhere.

I have been using Moga Pro
and I have no complaints, came with a little tablet stand too. I have been using it flawlessly on emulators like Drastic DS and supergnes and MyBoy. Also, it works with the Moga software which is growing it's library of supported games all the time. I love it and honestly it feels better than the PS3 controller in my humble opinion. They just recently released a new line of Moga controllers where they charge youre device while playing, sounds cool but I always carry extra battery packs with me so it's not necessary for me.

How about this one
http://www.fc30.com/eng/

Cye3s said:
How about this one
http://www.fc30.com/eng/
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Oooooooo. I like. Ordered me one. Thanks for the info! Much better button layout than 8-Bitty, and it says it emulates a keyboard as well, so should work with just about anything. Will be arriving in about two weeks. Will update after testing.

Cye3s said:
How about this one
http://www.fc30.com/eng/
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Finally got ahold of my FC30, and I'm sad to report it doesn't work as advertised. Works fine as a USB PC controller, but I have troubles getting it to connect to my N7 (2013) reliably. The touchscreen emulation hasn't worked yet, as it will never successfully connect in the touchscreen emu mode with the included .apk. However, this gamepad has the ability to update the firmware, so its possible to fix these issues.
My conclusion: DON'T BUY. At least until they fix connectivity.

Moga Pro
everlast716 said:
and I have no complaints, came with a little tablet stand too. I have been using it flawlessly on emulators like Drastic DS and supergnes and MyBoy. Also, it works with the Moga software which is growing it's library of supported games all the time. I love it and honestly it feels better than the PS3 controller in my humble opinion. They just recently released a new line of Moga controllers where they charge youre device while playing, sounds cool but I always carry extra battery packs with me so it's not necessary for me.
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Just got my Moga pro and I have to say it does great for Games that support it directly and with the Universal Driver on the Play store it works great with the emulators I use. Pleasantly surprised that I don't have to be rooted for the Universal Driver to work either. I had been using the Sixaxis app with a PS3 controller up till now but I wanted to see if I really needed to root my new N7 so I grabbed the Moga to try.

GhostNGoblins91 said:
In my experience, the Sixaxis has been perfect for gaming.
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Same, PS3 controller works great wirelessly for me.

Cye3s said:
How about this one
http://www.fc30.com/eng/
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Looks great, I just order one too,
But it ships from Hong Kong, doubt maybe extreme long time for delivery
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ytwytw said:
Looks great, I just order one too,
But it ships from Hong Kong, doubt maybe extreme long time for delivery
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Another vote for the Sony PS3 Sixasis controller!! I use a PS3 controller with my Asus Infinity, Note 2, Evo LTE, and of course N7 FHD. Best part is that it works flawlessly with EVERY game too!! Even if the game isn't set to support a controller, you can use the Sixasis app and customize the controller button presses to emulate a screen touch. Absolutely LOVE that feature and ability!! I set some custom game button mappings for some games that already natively support controllers, just because I prefer the button presses to do something different. You can make and save different controller button mappings (just called "maps" in the Sixasis app) for each individual game, or even make multiple maps for each game if you'd like. The app is very flexible and allows you to fully customize everything to your liking! I don't believe there's another controller option out there that offers as much flexibility and in depth customizations as does a Sixasis controller with the Sixasis app!! I'm excited to get the PS4 system and to use PS4 Sixasis controllers with my Android devices!!
Needless to say, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND going with a PS3 controller and the Sixasis app!!!!
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I have been using the wired 360 controller for awhile now, for both my PC and Nexus7 (both gens). Works well, though it is a little awkward finding a good spot for the tablet since your hands are both on the controller (unless you have a stand or are sitting at a table).
If you want a wired one then I would high recommend it.

TheGeek007 said:
Finally got ahold of my FC30, and I'm sad to report it doesn't work as advertised. Works fine as a USB PC controller, but I have troubles getting it to connect to my N7 (2013) reliably. The touchscreen emulation hasn't worked yet, as it will never successfully connect in the touchscreen emu mode with the included .apk. However, this gamepad has the ability to update the firmware, so its possible to fix these issues.
My conclusion: DON'T BUY. At least until they fix connectivity.
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Oh no, mine just got shipped today, too late to get cancelled
I check out the weiphone, looks like its for iOS only, didn't mention about android
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[Q] Nexus 7 2013 as FULL Desktop Replacement

Hey guys,
a friend of mine is looking for a new notebook, but very happy with his (old) Nexus 7. I thought that it might be enough if he buys a bluetooth keyboard + mouse and Chromecast. Would this work to get a Full, on the TV Screen, desktop replacement? Or would it be smarter to get a new nexus 7 and use the MHL support to connect it with some screen + connect mouse and keyboard (via usb/bluetooth).
Anyways, is this even possible to connect a screen, a mouse and a keyboard at the same time on the new nexus/old nexus.
Cheers.

owerner said:
Hey guys,
a friend of mine is looking for a new notebook, but very happy with his (old) Nexus 7. I thought that it might be enough if he buys a bluetooth keyboard + mouse and Chromecast. Would this work to get a Full, on the TV Screen, desktop replacement? Or would it be smarter to get a new nexus 7 and use the MHL support to connect it with some screen + connect mouse and keyboard (via usb/bluetooth).
Anyways, is this even possible to connect a screen, a mouse and a keyboard at the same time on the new nexus/old nexus.
Cheers.
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I believe chromcast works on wifi.
but Bluetooth will pair with only one device at a time. Keyboard or Mouse. Not both!
can use a wired keyboard with a bluetooth mouse though!

nijom said:
I believe chromcast works on wifi.
but Bluetooth will pair with only one device at a time. Keyboard or Mouse. Not both!
can use a wired keyboard with a bluetooth mouse though!
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Bit if I use a wired keyboard and a bluetooth mouse I cant use the MHL for the screen support (nexus 2013 case) cause the slot is in use, or are there any adapters who support this?
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I did a little research on "just one bluetooth device"....and its wrong. Lots of sources say that they can connect 2 bluetooth devices. Can anybody confirm this?

owerner said:
Bit if I use a wired keyboard and a bluetooth mouse I cant use the MHL for the screen support (nexus 2013 case) cause the slot is in use, or are there any adapters who support this?
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no idea bro..

owerner said:
Bit if I use a wired keyboard and a bluetooth mouse I cant use the MHL for the screen support (nexus 2013 case) cause the slot is in use, or are there any adapters who support this?
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I did a little research on "just one bluetooth device"....and its wrong. Lots of sources say that they can connect 2 bluetooth devices. Can anybody confirm this?
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I am sure it can be done. However, you can also buy bluetooth keyboard with mouse pad in built that will serve dual purpose. I have a logitech keyboard with built in mouse pad, and it works.
If you use bluetooth keyboard and mouse with chromecast or miracast technologies, you will see a lag between when you perform an action and when it gets displayed on the screen. I guess the wireless display technologies have this limitation.
You can't use MHL with new Nexus 7 2013. the technology is not supported.
What you need is a Slimport adapter to connect the new Nexus 7 2013 to the TV. I have used my bluetooth keyboard with built in mouse pad while my device was connected to Slimport. It works. My bluetooth keyboard was lagging, but i guess that's a known bluetooth issue with the new nexus 7s.
Don't buy MHL for the new Nexus 7 devices. It wont work.
Hope this helps.

psychedelicNerd said:
I am sure it can be done. However, you can also buy bluetooth keyboard with mouse pad in built that will serve dual purpose. I have a logitech keyboard with built in mouse pad, and it works.
If you use bluetooth keyboard and mouse with chromecast or miracast technologies, you will see a lag between when you perform an action and when it gets displayed on the screen. I guess the wireless display technologies have this limitation.
You can't use MHL with new Nexus 7 2013. the technology is not supported.
What you need is a Slimport adapter to connect the new Nexus 7 2013 to the TV. I have used my bluetooth keyboard with built in mouse pad while my device was connected to Slimport. It works. My bluetooth keyboard was lagging, but i guess that's a known bluetooth issue with the new nexus 7s.
Don't buy MHL for the new Nexus 7 devices. It wont work.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you mate, this sounds promising. You said the keyboard kinda laggs. Is it anyoing, or can you live with that problem?
The Slimport thingy wont work with the old nexus 7, right?
Is there a possibility to connect Slimport AND keyboard/mouse (wired) to the device?

owerner said:
Thank you mate, this sounds promising. You said the keyboard kinda laggs. Is it anyoing, or can you live with that problem?
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I primarily use the mouse so I didn't do a full regression with the keyboard. But i remember it was lagging substantially which was a bummer for me. I saw the bluetooth issue being discussed here somewhere. I will try to find that thread and see there was a fix.
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The Slimport thingy wont work with the old nexus 7, right?
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Correct.
owerner said:
Is there a possibility to connect Slimport AND keyboard/mouse (wired) to the device?
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Not that I know of. The slimport connects directly to the N7. The only port you have available after that is for charging, that too within the slimport adapter itself. I am not aware of a slimport and keyboard/mouse wired to the device.
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I primarily use the mouse so I didn't do a full regression with the keyboard. But i remember it was lagging substantially which was a bummer for me. I saw the bluetooth issue being discussed here somewhere. I will try to find that thread and see there was a fix.
Correct.
Not that I know of. The slimport connects directly to the N7. The only port you have available after that is for charging, that too within the slimport adapter itself. I am not aware of a slimport and keyboard/mouse wired to the device.
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Here is the bluetooth issue thread. Hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385891&highlight=bluetooth

owerner said:
Bit if I use a wired keyboard and a bluetooth mouse I cant use the MHL for the screen support (nexus 2013 case) cause the slot is in use, or are there any adapters who support this?
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I did a little research on "just one bluetooth device"....and its wrong. Lots of sources say that they can connect 2 bluetooth devices. Can anybody confirm this?
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I can connect a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse simultaneously on my 2013 N7.

sparksd said:
I can connect a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse simultaneously on my 2013 N7.
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Do you have any laggs? Which bluetooth devices are you using?

owerner said:
Do you have any laggs? Which bluetooth devices are you using?
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Anker and Logitech keyboards and MS Bluetooth Notebook 5000 mouse. No lags.

Hi,
I'm a newbie on xda forum and i got some questions before i decided to buy new nexus 7. I got no experiences with Android 4.0 and above versions, so i need a few informations about nexus and android. I already read a few things on multiple forums, including xda. Similar as OP, i would like to replace my laptop with nexus 7.
1. I read nexus 7 owners had problems with USB OTG and there is some application needed for this thing to work. I also read there is the difference between rooted and unrooted tablet. What do i get with rooted tablet? Some guys on local forum told me i will loose warranty if i root tablet. Is this true?
2. Again about OTG, is it possible to download torrents (especially big files over 10 GB, like HD movies) directly on USB or even on external HDD?
3. I read nexus supports MHL, but i have to buy Slimport adapter and not MHL adapter to have a picture on monitor or TV. Is this true? Is it possible to have TV, keyboard and mouse (and maybe even USB) connected at same time? If yes, what would i need? USB hub or anything like that?
Can anybody help me with my questions please?
Cheers

I busted out an old wireless mouse (USB dongle) and a bluetooth keyboard to see how well this would work, and it's surprisingly good. I've got a USB hub plugged in which recognizes flashdrives with StickMount. The only issue is that you won't be able to use the SlimPort and a flash drive/USB mouse at the same time.

NightBolid said:
Hi,
I'm a newbie on xda forum and i got some questions before i decided to buy new nexus 7. I got no experiences with Android 4.0 and above versions, so i need a few informations about nexus and android. I already read a few things on multiple forums, including xda. Similar as OP, i would like to replace my laptop with nexus 7.
1. I read nexus 7 owners had problems with USB OTG and there is some application needed for this thing to work. I also read there is the difference between rooted and unrooted tablet. What do i get with rooted tablet? Some guys on local forum told me i will loose warranty if i root tablet. Is this true?
2. Again about OTG, is it possible to download torrents (especially big files over 10 GB, like HD movies) directly on USB or even on external HDD?
3. I read nexus supports MHL, but i have to buy Slimport adapter and not MHL adapter to have a picture on monitor or TV. Is this true? Is it possible to have TV, keyboard and mouse (and maybe even USB) connected at same time? If yes, what would i need? USB hub or anything like that?
Can anybody help me with my questions please?
Cheers
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root: Some of the more sophisticated apps you may want to use need root. I dont think you lose warenty since you can completely restore your tablet to factory settings if needed. But I am not sure about this. I just can say that the process of rooting is NO problem at all.
MHL: Some guy in THIS thread said that MHL is not supported. And he also said that with a slimport adapter you can use any screen as Nexus screen. Same for the keyboard question, I asked basically the same thing, just read the thread.
You can download torrents. Just make sure to get the 32GB version if you want to dowload big files. And you can also mount external usb devices like HDD. But again, if your MicroUSB (where to put the charger) is occupied by slimport adapter to get a picture on the screen, you wont be able to mount any other sub thing as far as explained in THIS thread.

xbox Controller Compatible?

Bought an OTG cable, shows usb plugged on my notifications bar when I plug it in, but does nothing. Controller blinks, but won't respond, I don't want to root because I use the TWC app to watch TV on my tablet, and I like getting , you updates (last phone was the note 1 rooted and was on ICS for 2 years, so I like being current on my device for once without constant flashing and stuff.)
anyways cord and controller works fine on my Note 3 but no response from my Note 10.1 2014 Edition.
Any help?
Looked for a pre made thread on this, but whenever I hit the search thread tab on this site while using my tablet, the text bar dissappears.
HEEEEEEELP! Wanna play GTA comfortably on this pig.

Start with USB/BT Joystick app from store. It will at least let controller initialize. However I too am stuck past that, so tagging thread in hopes someone knows what's up.

Vol4Ever said:
Start with USB/BT Joystick app from store. It will at least let controller initialize. However I too am stuck past that, so tagging thread in hopes someone knows what's up.
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Yea tried USB BT and didn't really understand what I was doing. It picked the controller up but still nothing. And apps like GTA are supposed to just work with a controller, so I'm lost. Worked fine on my Note 3 but not on my Note 10.1 2014?
No one else has tried this but us?

Is it a wireless controller ? Wireless controller only use the USB for charging, the rest is always done wirelessly.
If it's a wired controller, please disregard
Envoyé de mon Nexus 4 en utilisant Tapatalk

No. Mine is the pure hardwired controller. That was lesson #1. Lesson #2 was to use the official Microsoft controller versus less expensive third party. Thank you Best Buy lenient return policy!
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I used a gamestop brand madcatz type cheapo I bought in attempt to get the wife to play Halo with me (fail) registered on usb/bt app but doesn't do anything outside of that, and the same controller worked fine with no setup on my Note 3. So are you saying I need an official Microsoft wired controller?

For me non Xbox wouldn't work, but pure M$ does at least show up in USB BT. I can actually PLAY with it on my S3 phone (which is rooted if that matters?), but I have not been able to play with it on the Note tablet. Very frustrating.
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I said screw it and bought a Moga.

Did the moga work easily? How much was it? I've about pulled my hair out getting the wired 360 to work. It works fine on my S3 phone is the weird part.
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Vol4Ever said:
Did the moga work easily? How much was it? I've about pulled my hair out getting the wired 360 to work. It works fine on my S3 phone is the weird part.
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Yea effortlessly, just pair it like any Bluetooth device and you're off. Plus it's compact wireless and portable.
I purchased the pro (360 replica basically) for $40 on bestbuy.com and when I went to the store to pick it up, it was actually the Moga Hero Pro which was like $60, so whether by accident or on purpose I got the more expensive $60 one from bestbuy.
I originally got the Moga Pocket for $30 at gamestop, but took it back because bestbuy had the pro for $40 and the pocket didn't have shoulder buttons, just triggers and wasn't rechargeable, it took 2 AAA batteries.
If you want to game get a MOGA for sure. I should have just done it from get go.

Oh and obviously it connects just as easy to your phone, but it's also real nice to clip it in and play games, feels like a nice portable gaming device, plus the one I got, the hero pro charges your phone as you play if you want, pretty awesome, I originally just wanted to play on my tablet, but after plugging my phone into this beast I was hooked. Def worth the money.
But yea plays awesome on both devices.

Anyone tired the SteelSeriees controller?
I can get it uber cheap, but don't know how good it is (or isn't)

Sounds like moga may be ticket unless someone can figure out why x360 won't show up on the 10.1 2014. I'm sure I'll get BB gift cards for Christmas, so I'll grab one then. Thx for tip

Well I got the moga pro on closeout for $30 at BB. Still having trouble getting it connected. Can you give me step by step what you did? I'm still using the paid version of the USB BT app. Is that still needed with the moga?
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I just got my Note 10.1 2014 for Christmas, and have bought a OTG cable in order to play games on a Controller. My PS3 controller works fine with the Note, but my 360 controller doesn't. The 4 ring lights flash, and that's it.
I tried the cable with my daughters nexus 7, and the 360 controller works fine with that.
Has anyone managed to get a 360 controller to work with the note? What could be stopping this from working?

polyphonicboy said:
I just got my Note 10.1 2014 for Christmas, and have bought a OTG cable in order to play games on a Controller. My PS3 controller works fine with the Note, but my 360 controller doesn't. The 4 ring lights flash, and that's it.
I tried the cable with my daughters nexus 7, and the 360 controller works fine with that.
Has anyone managed to get a 360 controller to work with the note? What could be stopping this from working?
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Have you rooted?
Samsung SM-P605 - Tapatalk

Vol4Ever said:
Well I got the moga pro on closeout for $30 at BB. Still having trouble getting it connected. Can you give me step by step what you did? I'm still using the paid version of the USB BT app. Is that still needed with the moga?
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Nope, download the moga app and its cake from there, no other app needed sir.

Hi guys,
if you are trying to use the wireless xbox 360 controller, try to install the latest Xluco Kernel (Beta v3) for Android 4.4.2.
You can find the Kernel on following page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725193
It works like a charm and you don't need an extra App (USB/BT Joystick Center). Just plug in your xbox 360 dongle and
switch on your xbox 360 controller.
The only issue is, that your DPad won't work. On following page you can find a modified Vendor/Product driver to activate the DPad: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40032337&highlight=dpad#post40032337
For "how do I activate these files?", visit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792531
Best regards