Coming from a Note 2 I knew what to expect after seeing pics on the web. But as the lady went in the back to grab the phone, I got those new super smartphone hives I always get lol. Then she puts it on the table and I'm stuck in awe. I don't know if it's because I knew the power of the device, or the fact that I was crazy about the design. But this felt more significant for some reason than my jump from DROID X to Galaxy Nexus if you could believe it. What about you guys?
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Yeah. I creamed my pants too.
(Really?)
If this rep don't hurry up and finish the paperwork so I can go root my phone
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"It's beautiful. . ."
Lol. I wasn't as excited as y'all. I hate the chrome and T-Mobile stamp on back. Waiting to get an OEM Samsung wireless charge battery cover. And trying to figure out how I want to rub the chrome off and gloss it to a semi gloss black because I am sure the black underneath is flat. And I didn't get excited as y'all til about 3 days after I got my phone. Started to really enjoy the intensity then.
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My first thought was
"It's not that big"
Reviews make this thing seem like it is a lunch tray, but I can hold it in one hand just fine.
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"It's not that big"
Reviews make this thing seem like it is a lunch tray, but I can hold it in one hand just fine.
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Lol that was my first thought too.
My second thought was "Ok, I'm sold."
My firs thought was HURRRY THE HELL UP WITH MY NEW PHONE. lol. Never less than an hour per trip to a tmobile store. Love the phone though.
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"...ooh, beautiful screen... WHAAAT! O.O How can I remove this stupid Tmobile sign from the cover..." lol
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"How long will it be until I can get cyanogenmod on this?"
Just give me the damn phone and quit trying to make me switch to T-Mobile service
I like the s pen too much to mod it.
I thought it was gonna be too big coming from a GS4 but after playing w it for 30 mins it does not feel any bigger and I have been fully satisfied w the Note 3.
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Man, that's expensive! In reference to TMo wanting over $800 for it for prepaid. I then made the mistake of attempting Negri, wasted two perfectly fine weeks, cancelled, and bought a white one on Swappa after all the black ones were gone. I love the design, it's an excellent phone, but T-Mo has some awful pricing and I wasn't paying over $100 extra to walk out of the store with it. My only disappointment is that the black one has a leather feel and the white is hard plastic. Was it really that hard to make white fake leather textured plastic? I really want to find where I can buy a black backplate just for the texture, still love the look of the white model. Also, the camera bump annoys me since 90% of my use is browsing with the phone laying flat on a table.
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I thought the phone looked boring, I was more in awe at the function of it over fashion though. But it's a huge plus that they thinned the side bezels, and that it felt better to hold in the hands than the Note 2. Screen was also sharper and bigger.
"Porn is gonna be awesome on this thing..."
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"Porn is gonna be awesome on this thing..."
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It is
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I was basically like...
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Coming from the S4 "wow thats huge" and that's the first time ever my wife said to me when I took it home.
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My first thought when I took the phone out of the box, "Wow, this REALLY DOES FEEL like leather!" (I have the black one btw)
Second thought after playing with some YouTube vids, "This speaker is really not bad at all, very loud and clear...I dunno what those complaining fools on XDA were smokin.."
Third, "Hey this amazing screen looks almost like an IPS LCD! Wowsers! No hint of pentile matrix and super bright, a big step up from even the Note 2's display"
Fourth, "Wow there is literally no lag or microstuttering, unlike my POS Galaxy S4." "I love this phone!"
Those were my initial impressions.
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Finaly got a white phone returned. Another tech at a different store beat me to the punch but I thought I would post the pics.
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In case you cannot tell it is a white screen with the original black back(I dont like the silver one) and a white battery cover.
I don't like the silver either, but that's too much black looks good tho
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also here is the inverted option, code named Raider Nation ET4G:
Sorry the pictures are crappy they were taken with an Epic with no flash.
The black & white one is sick!!!! Time to start watching ebay for a parts phone I guess.
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Hehe so much for waiting 60 days from release to start harvesting
Just teasing...i actually did the same thing yesterday i rocked the all white for a while, but the two-tone is just too cool. I'm a ska-head too, so two-tone fits lol. Now if only i had a checkerboard battery cover....
Also, i asked my SRSS, and he confirmed that since it's a new SKU, the 60 day rule applies...and then proceeded to inform me that so long as we got the return box sealed on Sunday, auditors won't be able to see it on Monday lol.
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Yeah I actually used my black screen on a customer's phone that had a non working lcd.
I want one.
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Panda is too cute.
How 'bout Samsung Galaxy Epic 4G Touch "Tux Edition"? Yes, No Maybe...
so the the white battery cover smooth or like the black one?
How would I go about replacing the screen?
wow those look great super ! i need to get my hand on some parts now
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are you asking where to get a screen, or how to replace the screen?
As far as where, you'll have to do some searching around. Sprint techs like us have the luxury of harvesting screens off returned phones (normally used for repairs)...but epic screens are generally so far and few between i doubt you'd find a tech willing to sell one to you.
If you're asking how, that's easy. Unscrew the six screws underneath the battery cover. Then using a really thin piece of plastic or even your fingernails, begin to pry the area where the bezel meets the glass down both sides and the top (the bezel-back-frame almost fits like a cap on the screen). Then just lift the bezel-frame from the screen in an out then down motion (basically, the top separates first, then you'll have to go down and out to get the bottom part off; you don't want to pry the bottom part straight out so as not to damage the charging port). During this, you'll likely see your headset jack move with the frame, that's ok because it moves pretty freely inside.
Once inside, you'll see two flat Phillips head screws, unscrew those. You won't need to unscrew the third tiny one in the upper right hand corner. There are several cables (3 or 4) that are plugged into ports, just unplug them, nothing fancy. Just make sure you look closely so you don't miss one. Then, the motherboard (which is roughly shaped like an "L" ) just lifts up. Reverse directions to put in a new screen. Easy squeezy lemon Japanesey.
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) Easy squeezy lemon Japanesey.
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Never heard it that way before LOL
I've always heard it "Easy peasy, lemon squeezy"
How much do I have to pay to get my phone to look like the one In The first post
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Never heard it that way before LOL
I've always heard it "Easy peasy, lemon squeezy"
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Lol, me as well, first time i heard it was on an episode of hey Arnold. Then i heard Japanesey, so now i just combine them lol
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How much do I have to pay to get my phone to look like the one In The first post
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You'll have to wait until someone sells a screen on eBay, we (sprint) can't sell you one
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Might be easier to just mask off the phone & paint it to your liking.
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so the the white battery cover smooth or like the black one?
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its smooth.
also, the tech at my store is planning on getting the white E4GT, removing the gray, and painting it (he hasnt decided on red or blue). depending on how that goes, i may be doing the same. a nice candy apple red with some metal flake in place of the gray would be gorgeous IMO. i think the gray looks like cheap, crappy plastic
EDIT: ill post back with pictures once he's done, and if i do mine
If painting your phone makes you wary or one lacks skills to attempt such a task I believe you can also purchase self adhesive colored skins as well.
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If painting your phone makes you wary or one lacks skills to attempt such a task I believe you can also purchase self adhesive colored skins as well.
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lol you know thats not the same thing. or we'd all just skin our cars.
Ever since I saw the Galaxy S3 announcement, I've had the idea to mix and match the two "all natural and made for humans" colours. So I got a white phone and started looking for a replacement back in blue. At first, it was impossible to get a pebble blue back without buying a new GS3. But eventually, I found one on ebay.
The cover I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/380448215137
Here are the results for anyone who is curious to do this as well:
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Thanks for giving it a go and sharing the results. You know what I think I like it! Distinctive but cool. Good effort!
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Thanks, I'm interested in doing this.
I'm going to be annoying and complain, though... Why the extreme closeups? I'm really having problems seeing what it really looks like, I think your pictures are pretty bad quality! Are they taken in low light? Some of them look very yellow.
Better pics, please, mister Blurrycam? Thanks for your effort! (Sorry for complaining!)
So I found 2 sellers on ebay advertising this... do you mind sharing which one you got it from. Would rather run with a confirmed legitimate back cover. Cheers
And to the previous poster I'd hazard a guess it is damn hard to have a distance shot that captures the sheen/colour of the pebble blue especially in the same shot as white (too wide a contrast range) not to mention the brushed metal finish...
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Might go the other way and get the white one for my pebble blue model
Linky please ?
I want to buy the original batterycovers aswell.. as backup . Could you provide us with a link where to buy these?
I can take some photos in better lighting once the sun is back. However, if I take a picture from a distance, it will just either look like an all white phone. The blue back isn't visible when I lay it down.
I don't have a real camera.. only a ton of phones. I took the pics with my Galaxy Nexus :x Maybe the Galaxy S IV will be good enough to photograph itself?
Anyways, I updated the thread to have a link to the buyer on ebay that I purchased from.
Kiahnlliya said:
Thanks, I'm interested in doing this.
I'm going to be annoying and complain, though... Why the extreme closeups? I'm really having problems seeing what it really looks like, I think your pictures are pretty bad quality! Are they taken in low light? Some of them look very yellow.
Better pics, please, mister Blurrycam? Thanks for your effort! (Sorry for complaining!)
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i agree. I can't tell how it really looks bc they are close up shots.
if youre going to take the time to do photos, at least make them so we can see what youre taking a picture of.
ive seen interest in this, bu have none myself. hope it satisfies others though.
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if youre going to take the time to do photos, at least make them so we can see what youre taking a picture of.
ive seen interest in this, bu have none myself. hope it satisfies others though.
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Yes it does thx :thumbup:
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You could take a photo of it with a mirror behind
Added a few better pictures, tried taking some with my GS2 instead of Nexus. Not that good, but it's the best I can do until I get some sunlight...
nice i like it
Weird! I would have liked the front to had some kind of bluish in the front to match or a custom back cover which will have some white/blue combination
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Looks odd but I love your efforts.
your phone reminds me a liger...
I want mine in red, white & blue!
Lighting really wasn't the issue...pull that camera back a little bit. Too close.
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Ever since I saw the Galaxy S3 announcement, I've had the idea to mix and match the two "all natural and made for humans" colours. So I got a white phone and started looking for a replacement back in blue. At first, it was impossible to get a pebble blue back without buying a new GS3. But eventually, I found one on ebay.
The cover I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/380448215137
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I never knew ZAGG had their name displayed visibly on their screen protectors. Weird.
S3
i love a unique phone, zedomax has a white phone with black screen and the home botton is white aswell. looks great although ide still prefer my original pebble blue.
i like to make programs and the looks of the phone unique rather then the outside i like it nice and simple on the outside and deadly in the inside hehe
Okay, so, after spending a bit too much time browsing this here forum I got the ridiculously terrible idea to paint my phone. Yeah, while it may have worked out for some of you, I guess I don't have the skills with a spray can as of yet, and my 600 dollar phone was a very bad place to try to learn. Anyhow, I really messed it up, and while everything still works, I would like to have my phone's sleek beauty returned as opposed to this sticky, peeling mess. So order a new housing, right? WRONG. Apparently the sprint housing literally doesn't exist online anywhere whatsoever. Yep. I've spent hours scouring the depths of the interwebs to absolutely no avail. I'm fairly sure the Verizon housing won't, in fact, work, due to the sim card slot it possesses that mine lacks. When I Google "sprint galaxy nexus replacement housing", it literally ****ing gives me links to chargers for sale. Which on its own is rather mind boggling. Anyways, what I'm hoping is that someone here happens to know where I can get my hands on a sprint gnex housing, or has one to sell. This phone is completely 100% functional, and I'd really rather not shell out 150 bucks to assurion to make it look pretty again. So, fellow nexus lovers, please hear my cries of desolation and offer some sort of advice. I miss how sexy this thing used to be... I'm never going to stop kicking myself for painting it. Anyways, hopefully some part of this wall of text made sense, because I am thoroughly desperate. Thanks.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sprint-Sams...ultDomain_0&hash=item35bea4adde#ht_500wt_1416
pics please
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Okay, so, after spending a bit too much time browsing this here forum I got the ridiculously terrible idea to paint my phone. Yeah, while it may have worked out for some of you, I guess I don't have the skills with a spray can as of yet, and my 600 dollar phone was a very bad place to try to learn. Anyhow, I really messed it up, and while everything still works, I would like to have my phone's sleek beauty returned as opposed to this sticky, peeling mess. So order a new housing, right? WRONG. Apparently the sprint housing literally doesn't exist online anywhere whatsoever. Yep. I've spent hours scouring the depths of the interwebs to absolutely no avail. I'm fairly sure the Verizon housing won't, in fact, work, due to the sim card slot it possesses that mine lacks. When I Google "sprint galaxy nexus replacement housing", it literally ****ing gives me links to chargers for sale. Which on its own is rather mind boggling. Anyways, what I'm hoping is that someone here happens to know where I can get my hands on a sprint gnex housing, or has one to sell. This phone is completely 100% functional, and I'd really rather not shell out 150 bucks to assurion to make it look pretty again. So, fellow nexus lovers, please hear my cries of desolation and offer some sort of advice. I miss how sexy this thing used to be... I'm never going to stop kicking myself for painting it. Anyways, hopefully some part of this wall of text made sense, because I am thoroughly desperate. Thanks.
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You could try cleaning off the paint with acetone or paint thinner, tho im not sure what it will do to the finish on the nexus but it should remove some of it. other option is to sand it down gently and remove the paint the repaint. as far as the nexus housing it isnt available yet you could try finidng one online with a broken screen. otherwise at this time you may be SOL
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Agreed. We need pics.
I'd just pay the insurance, learn the lesson, and never ever do it again.
Really, if you have insurance this should be a no-brainer.
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Okay, thanks for your help, guys. Btw, I was exaggerating quite a bit when I said sticky and peeling. I put a clear coat on it after the paint dried, so everything is staying like it is, both fortunately and unfortunately.
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Mostly, I'd just like to replace the middle housing because I screwed up the volume button/ the battery door doesn't sit nearly as nice as it used to. However, its completely functional otherwise, which is why it seems stupid to pay a significant amount of money for a whole new phone when all it needs to be good as new is a 10 dollar part. It seems odd to me that the GSM/Verizon housings are seemingly limitless, whereas the sprint one is nowhere to be found (without an accompanying LCD, lol).
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Just strip the paint for the time being. Looks to me like you didn't sand quite good enough and didn't use an adhesion promoter and the pain didn't cure correctly.
not to troll or anything, but I kind of like the design it created. Personally I'd clear coat it and use it, makes for a unique pattern. or maybe use a thin layer of black over top and wet sand it down so the patterned lines come through as red.
Actually, I was planning on keeping this back cover, most likely big just need to somehow repair my volume button.
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What's wrong with the volume rocker?
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Is there anyone out there making a metal battery door or case? They have them for the s3/4 among other phones
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Is there anyone out there making a metal battery door or case? They have them for the s3/4 among other phones
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Thats as close as it gets for now lol ..I was looking to for one but i saw this skin with Brushed Aluminum wrap lol ..doesnt look to bad but yea not really what im looking for either lol
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Skinomi-TechS...238&sr=1-24&keywords=optimus+g+pro+case+metal <<<<
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Thats as close as it gets for now lol ..I was looking to for one but i saw this skin with Brushed Aluminum wrap lol ..doesnt look to bad but yea
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Skinomi-TechS...238&sr=1-24&keywords=optimus+g+pro+case+metal <<<<
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Damn! My brothers s4 has it right now and its making me jealous.
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lol looks badass..... give it some time im sure will have one soon......... mayb
Keep in mind any metal battery 3rd party battery door will loose all NFC and QI wireless charging. Since u cant even find a good case from the BIG case vendors dont be sad if you never see a metal door. Im so Pissed a LG for not giving this phone more attention so companies like Seidio and otterbox start making cases. There is no commercials on tv about this device at all. Samsung is all over the TV. Im keeping my G Pro until the note 3 comes out. I dont want to go back to a note 2 when the note 3 will be out in under 4 months. Another bad thing is no ROM support. I wish the HTC ONE was at least 5" and I would of gotten it. The S4 looks nice but im too use to 5.5".
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Keep in mind any metal battery 3rd party battery door will loose all NFC and QI wireless charging. Since u cant even find a good case from the BIG case vendors dont be sad if you never see a metal door. Im so Pissed a LG for not giving this phone more attention so companies like Seidio and otterbox start making cases. There is no commercials on tv about this device at all. Samsung is all over the TV. Im keeping my G Pro until the note 3 comes out. I dont want to go back to a note 2 when the note 3 will be out in under 4 months. Another bad thing is no ROM support. I wish the HTC ONE was at least 5" and I would of gotten it. The S4 looks nice but im too use to 5.5".
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Yeah man screen size is keeping me chained
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This is going to sound weird. I'm kind of glad that there aren't many cases for this phone because I'm a case whore!!! I have 7 cases for my nexus 4 for crying out loud. Not to mention the ones for my previous lgog, GS3, Xperia ion, Gs2 and infuse. Don't know why I still have them. I have almost 40+ cases sitting upstairs. I think I'm a horder?!
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This is going to sound weird. I'm kind of glad that there aren't many cases for this phone because I'm a case whore!!! I have 7 cases for my nexus 4 for crying out loud. Not to mention the ones for my previous lgog, GS3, Xperia ion, Gs2 and infuse. Don't know why I still have them. I have almost 40+ cases sitting upstairs. I think I'm a horder?!
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I would agree. Your a case whore. LOL. Sell some cases. Your like me. I have 3 at the moment for the G Pro. I had a dozen for my Nexus 4. Like 4 different colors for my Note 2.
Skinomi makes quality products! I had their carbon fiber wrap for my old Asus Transformer Infinity tablet & keyboard. Not only was it gorgeous but, I never had issues with it. Just takes patience to fit on the curved sections of a product. That being said, since I use a case it doesn't bother me not having a metal battery door of some sort although that HTC One looks gorgeous from the factory!
There is a new product on the market, sold at Home Depot, called NeverWet that promises to make everything waterproof. Check out the video and towards the end they waterproof an iPhone. This looks like some pretty amazing stuff!
http://youtu.be/DZrjXSsfxMQ
Looks awesome. Just don't know if I'm willing to try it on my $800 Note II. Luckily I have a old E4GT that I don't care about. And its in stock and & only $20 at my local Home Depot. Will post back with my results.
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Just got this amazing stuff today! Tried it with shirt first, its drying right now. I'm going to try my shirt first then my shoes and then a couple of old cellphones before my G2x and finally if i see enough i will attempt the Galaxy S4. This is soo much cheaper than liquipel.
Looks like some crazy stuff. I saw their video on the Chive a week or two ago.
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I just tried this on my LG G2x and i can confirm it work. I dod not submerge my phone in water, i just splashed the circuit board with some water. You have to completly coat the parts you dont want water to get to. Best way is to create a seal so that water wont get to parts where you dont want water to get to and cat neverwet it.
I can confirm that NeverWet does NOT conduct electricity. I sprayed the battery contacts and i had to scratch the NeverWet off with a knife. My phone would not turn on with the NeverWet coating on the battery contacts.
The thing I want the most from next generation of phones is for them to just be tougher. I want them water proof (liquipel pretreated) , shatterproof (flexible displays) , and power strong (next gen lithium ion batteries).
This definitely looks awesome. I think I am going to test it on my back cover of my note 2. To make sure it doesn't affect the paint or anything. I can always get another back. Can't wait to try it. May post a review on here or probably a video. I will also try it on my seidio surface case. Too bad can't do it in the screen or front of phone. Probably no point in doing it to the back in that case. I guess we'll see
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I wouldn't... The stuff does not dry transparent from what I've read. If it isn't transparent enough for car windshields, color me a skeptic at it looking good on a smartphone
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want to try this so bad, just not a fan of dissecting my phone into pieces, wish we could just do the exterior and protect it from getting into the inside of the phone, going to buy this stuff tonight and use on my shoes and stuff, and maybe one daring day ill do it on an older phone i dont care too much about anymore.
plan on using it to protect my shoes during the warrior dash.
Interesting the video shows a phone but the instructions in the package state NOT to use on electronics.
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Interesting the video shows a phone but the instructions in the package state NOT to use on electronics.
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Its probably due to what the other user stated that it doesnt conduct electricity.
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check out our rom website, http://updater.team-nocturnal.com/labrats/
I've got an old evo lyin around I'll give her a shot and see if it'll survive a few toilet flushes
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I've got an old evo lyin around I'll give her a shot and see if it'll survive a few toilet flushes
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I was thinking the same thing. I have an old 4G EVO as well and it should be put to good use.
After reading more info on this I will not be trying on my phone. I'll stick to using this on other items though. But if anyone uses it on their phone definitely post it here. It's still a cool product. This would be awesome on a tent or umbrella.
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Just got this and some Duster spray. For 28.35 from the local home Depot.
Hope it works. I've been doubtful but now I got the supplies so I must complete this project.
I want water proof ness so I can play under water.
I took apart my gn2 once before to reassemble the power button
so I'm not too scared but I am a little nervous.
Pray for me guys.
Be careful, never wet is known not to be very permanent. It scratches off easily.
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Tried this stuff on my shoes and a shirt and a plunger before id mess with on my device happy I did so.. didnt work on shirt like on the ads. Shoes only worked on one of them...plunger worked good. Not to everyone and else not sure if its said in any ads but I dont believe it protects against running water but it seems to work best in water thats standing still like puddles and what not.
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I bought some from home depot last week put it on my work boots. I paint traffic controll markings and the neverwet doesnt even repel our water base paint we use, sticks right to it. Also it rubbed off in about a day or two. I tried putting it on my seidio active case and it dried frosted looking and almost white in some spots and it wore off in about 5 minutes, from taking it in and out of my pocket. I would definitely not try it on my phone it might work a little while but I wouldnt trust it. I would only buy it to mess around with it has almost no real practical use cause it rubs off so easy.
I have an old EVO 4G I could try it on. Will report back.
For all those times I talk underwater or in rain storms...oh wait