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[Q] HTCdev.com, S-OFF and CID

Apologies if this is a simple question - but there are so many conflicting posts here it's not entirely clear.
I have a Vodafone UK branded One X and I'd like to debrand it to run completely standard stock firmware from HTC, with OTA updates if at all possible (but RUU wouldn't be the end of the world).
From what I've read - you need to change the CID to a generic HTC_xxx code in order to receive the OTA updates. All good this far.
What I'm a little confused about is which action allows you to change the CID. Most posts point to S-OFF being set on the boot loader as a requirement - but I'm not clear on if unlocking via HTCdev.com will allow you to change the CID? There are some posts saying the HTCdev method is the official method of getting S-OFF, implying it will give you S-OFF (albeit with the warranty concerns). Other posts say that S-OFF is not possible until someone finds a vulnerability in the current bootloader.
If anyone could clarify I'd be very grateful (might even help a few duplicate threads being posted). Thanks.

The HTC Dev website does *not* allow S-Off (Security) because it allows access to radio and more risky things that increase likelihood of a bricked phone. There is no current S-Off method out, people are looking at it and trying to find a way to do it but nothing yet. To change CID, unlock your phone for free etc you need S-Off.
Hope that helps.

spot on, thanks very much.

I too have a One X branded by Vodafone UK.
I do want to root my phone which from what i can tell is still doable with s-on.
From what i am reading in this thread, it is currently NOT possible to replace the Vodafone branded ROM with the generic HTC Stock ROM for the One X?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24678690
Has all the answers. Going back to stock ruu is discussed throughout but mostly near end of thread. :thumbup:
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Demented-Idiot said:
I too have a One X branded by Vodafone UK.
I do want to root my phone which from what i can tell is still doable with s-on.
From what i am reading in this thread, it is currently NOT possible to replace the Vodafone branded ROM with the generic HTC Stock ROM for the One X?
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Well, you can replace it with a generic ROM but it has to be the same base-version as what your phone has
ie right now us vodafone users are on 1.26 so we can only use 1.26 ROM's
We can't use any 1.28 until vodafone updates that.
I have flashed the 1.26 RUU (no more branding \o/ and tbf it actually behaves better )

will mull over it - thanks
Stupid vodafone branding
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eeyrjmr said:
Well, you can replace it with a generic ROM but it has to be the same base-version as what your phone has
ie right now us vodafone users are on 1.26 so we can only use 1.26 ROM's
We can't use any 1.28 until vodafone updates that.
I have flashed the 1.26 RUU (no more branding \o/ and tbf it actually behaves better )
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If you have managed to flash the standard HTC ROM for the One X as 1.26 then you should be able to apply the 1.28 patch that is available elsewhere on the forum (the official one, not the translated chinese one!)

[Q] Flashing Stock RUU on Unlocked 3UK (H3G__001)

Hey guys. Quick question if anyone can help me.
A friend has a HTC One X from Three UK which he has had carrier unlocked by Three UK themselves. I want to know if I would be able to flash the stock Rom onto this device to debrand it, without having to S-Off.
His CID is H3G__001. I initially assumed he would not be able to without S-Off, but I thought I would check my old HTC Hero which was originally on Three UK and then unlocked in the same manner.
The Hero I managed to debrand by flashing a stock RUU, but the CID on that device is also H3G__001. So I'm thinking, if the CID ends with __001, does that mean a stock RUU can be flashed?
Do any of you know what the CID is for a locked Three UK device?
My friend is looking to sell his HTC One X and I'll only buy it if I can debrand it and have it running the stock firmware.
Currently using a Desire HD and iPhone 4, but getting sick and tired of waiting for the upcoming ICS update. If HTC had said the DHD is not being update, then I would have just got the One X..!

My locked three branded phone has the same CID - I don't beleive you will be able to install a stock ruu on this phone without changing the CID.

huwwatkins said:
My locked three branded phone has the same CID - I don't beleive you will be able to install a stock ruu on this phone without changing the CID.
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Oh poo! Lol! Cheers for your help mate. Don't really need the One X but I get bored of devices way too easily!

sonnysoul said:
Oh poo! Lol! Cheers for your help mate. Don't really need the One X but I get bored of devices way too easily!
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You can still put a stock rom on the phone by going down the htc dev route but you can't use an RUU.

Stock ROM & Changing RUU

Hi,
I purchased a new HTC One X from France (I have a friend there), and it came in french and with some apps of SFR (a french cellular company).
I want an official ROM of HTC but without all those apps, and with Hebrew support.
I saw this page with stock ROMs, but how do I know which one is suitable for me?
And can I install a stock ROM that did not come originally with my phone?
I am new to Android and smartphones in general, so please be patient with me (I'm a quick learner though).
Thank you.

Download cidgetter from the play store, that app will let you know your cid. My hox is unbranded with cid 401.
When you know your cid go to the page with the ruus and look for one with your cid in the version number.
Remember though you can only use a ruu with same or higher version number
You can't change region or carrier unless you have an s-off hox
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OK, my CID is VODAP203. What does it mean?
And what is s-off hox, and how do I get that?
(Simply, all I want to do is to reset my phone to factory's settings but like a not-branded one and with Hebrew support, as if I bought the phone from my country).
Thanks in advance.
ps: is there any detailed guide which explain all those terms and how to install a new ROM and all this stuff...?

Go to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23542734
Tell them your cid and some 1 should be able to guide you to the relevent ruu for your cid, that will get you back to stock factory settings.
You can't change cid unless you are lucky enough to have a s-off hox (s-off = security-off) so your best bet if your not bothered about warranty is flashing a custom Rom with all the bloat removed.
Go to this thread for all you need to know about flashing a custom rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30471180
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You can only use RUUs from Vodafone France - you can't use a stock ROM unless you go custom

bogfather said:
Tell them your cid and some 1 should be able to guide you to the relevent ruu for your cid, that will get you back to stock factory settings.
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That will get me back to factory settings but it will be exactly like I have it now (mine is brand new), right?
I don't want it like I got it, I want it as if it wasn't branded (like another region).
EddyOS said:
You can only use RUUs from Vodafone France - you can't use a stock ROM unless you go custom
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I don't understand something, I can't use a stock RUU but a custom one I can??
What do I need to do to get an official ROM (General, not branded, like pure HTC official ROM)?
Thanks...

You can't until we gain s-off, that's why if you want rid of all the bloat ware on your phone you will have to go custom rom or root and uninstall the bloatware yourself
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LionGod8 said:
That will get me back to factory settings but it will be exactly like I have it now (mine is brand new), right?
I don't want it like I got it, I want it as if it wasn't branded (like another region).
I don't understand something, I can't use a stock RUU but a custom one I can??
What do I need to do to get an official ROM (General, not branded, like pure HTC official ROM)?
Thanks...
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I'm going to assume the lest complicated situation, you have a regular HTC One X that is S-ON, but that you've managed to unlock your bootloader and root your phone. From browsing around it seems like the most standard starting point.
I think you are right; it's a little weird that you can only use the RUU (what HTC provides as a stock / factory ROM) from where the phone was intended to be used. I guess this makes some sense: you can manufacture custom configurations of the phone per clients markets (i.e. US Telcos may want two types, a delux version and a stripped down cheaper version) so HTC makes sure to configure the phones differently. If you have different phones, then you need to ensure each works as it should out of the box, so two different ROMs might be required where each stock ROM is optimized for use with the phone configuration as dictated by the CID (does CID - configuration identifier??). So for most of us, the RUU that's available to us is strictly determined by the phone CID.
So why not create a super RUU that is so awesome that it could determine what the physical and software configuration of the phone is and permit only the compatible features? Are HTC developers too lazy?? Maybe, I don't know, I'm not a developer. So enter the custom ROM. A kind of super RUU IMHO that allows for more customization based on the talents of the developer(s) who often design these things for free, on their own time, and although not obligated one bit to support or update them, do so anyway.
So there you have it, you are stuck with the RUU that is compatible only with your CID, or you can research the various custom ROMs that exist and try them out.
Good luck and have fun with it.

[Q] super CID and ARHD 12

Hi all,
I have been using ARHD roms for a while now. recently they/mike1986 released the 12 version for jellybean. as I was trying to flash it like previous versions, I noticed a requirement called CID. I got my one x in Australia through a carrier called optus so my CID is not htc... as it required n it's S-ON. I remember I once able to get super CID n s off for my sensation n it was relatively easy by following guidelines online. however, I can't found any instructions regarding how to obtain super CID for one x here or anywhere.
is it possible at this stage?
can I use the same guidelines from sensation?
how others deal with this issue?
I think this is because my very limited knowledge about android. I don't really understand the concept of CID. I know it gives u the rift to modify ur phone but how it's related to flashing a jellybean rom? why I didn't need it for previous version?
really hope some one can help me with my questions n thank you very much for all ur time.

You can't S-Off or change CID.
Others are coping by complaining.
You'll have to wait for Optus to release JB.

BenPope said:
You can't S-Off or change CID.
Others are coping by complaining.
You'll have to wait for Optus to release JB.
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I have rooted and flashed custom rom into my one x. I don't think I can receive OTA from optus anymore. In fact there is not system update function within ARHD. However, based on what I read here and some other forums, I think I have two options:
1. Flash back to official rom n unroot, then wait for optus release the update or htc to release RUU
2. wait till developers pose guideline for s-off and change CID (which I believe it's doable because I have my HTC sensation s-off with super CID obtained.
either way. I will have to wait. only wait. nothing but wait. before I jump to my next device. Nexus 4? or 5 from Sony?
but anyway, thx for your reply. much appreciated.

sensation was easy because we had revolutionary
but the hox has no s-off, so we cant change cid

Unless someone manages s-off in the next 2 weeks it seems like you'd have to wait. (I have the same one x branded to optus -.- )
I think the best bet would be restoring to stock and selling the one x and buying the nexus 4. Which is what I'll be doing XD

S-Off'ed and super cid'ed Tmo M9

Yo, I hate being a newb to a device and having to ask the basic questions, but here goes: I just got S-Off and am gonna super cid my T-Mobile M9, and I'm wondering what my options are now. If I'm not mistaken, I can now 'convert' my device into an international or developer model? Which would people say is recommendable as far as making best use of this hardware? Thanks in advance!

Once you're s-off and supercid, yes you can flash any GSM firmware safely.
What's recommendable depends on your tastes, but most people here are running the generic international (WWE) firmware.
Just don't get it into your head to convert it to something and then go back to s-on. S-off should be viewed as a one-way trip.

iElvis said:
Once you're s-off and supercid, yes you can flash any GSM firmware safely.
What's recommendable depends on your tastes, but most people here are running the generic international (WWE) firmware.
Just don't get it into your head to convert it to something and then go back to s-on. S-off should be viewed as a one-way trip.
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Many thanks for the informative response! I've never been one to worry too much about warranties, and I"ve got Uh Oh Protection, so hopefully I'm fine. Will probably try some WWE firmware... Thanks.
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