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Quadrant Standard Score

This is unbelievable, this phone gets faster BY the minute
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Hows your cpu set up and governors ro achieve thatscore
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raw2000j said:
Hows your cpu set up and governors ro achieve thatscore
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It's more based on how the rom works, and the kernel yes helps with CPU and GPU scores but I noticed his GPU scores are lower than mine, one of the nation reasons I'm still stock. Because it's probably persues kernel and has issues with FPS in real world and quadrant performance.
He probably ran it 1600/1600 on performance or something on those lines
Edit: this is mine stock rooted GPU much better than his, until persues can match this without overclocking the GPU just to get the same performance I do on stock I'm not switching.
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Overclocked at 1.9ghz and gpu to 640 mhz with specific undervolting. Redpill kernel...
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Whats your battery life like? 1.9 is amazing

Lol see if that thing isn't a brick after a week of use.
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Lmao this guy^^^^^ op dont let him scare you. Talk when it has actually happend if so care to share the story?
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chuko303 said:
Lmao this guy^^^^^ op dont let him scare you. Talk when it has actually happend if so care to share the story?
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Maybe you should consider that you're not the brightest, most experienced person in this thread before talking smack.
Exposing a component to more heat means you are shortening its life, there is no doubt about that. Those with overclocked desktop CPUs often have elaborate setups with overclocking in mind. You can't add a better heatsink, or a fan to your phone. Mobile CPUs, especially, are designed to be efficient at a certain range of clock frequencies. Moving it too far from the norm means you eventually see diminishing returns.
I've fried everything from my first Commodore 64 to my current box, and everything in between. If you think the phone can function at that level for an extended period of time without failure, best of luck to you.
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swalter718 said:
Lol see if that thing isn't a brick after a week of use.
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Dude it was part of the whole meaning of rooting and tweaking. Checking different settings for a little bit, testing them and then reverting back to defaults. I will never leave overclocked/ undervolted or vice-versa settings for a whole day... its just part of the fun of tweaking and experimenting with our devices...
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I am all for overclocking, modding, tweaking, hacking, etc. Breaking **** is the best way to learn. But that doesn't mean you should push your hardware past the point of exponentially diminishing returns, and increased risk of burning your chips out. That is, unless, you have no problem with the very real possibility that you'll need to buy a new phone.
That being said, kudos on "going plaid" with your Quadrant score
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swalter718 said:
I am all for overclocking, modding, tweaking, hacking, etc. Breaking **** is the best way to learn. But that doesn't mean you should push your hardware past the point of exponentially diminishing returns, and increased risk of burning your chips out. That is, unless, you have no problem with the very real possibility that you'll need to buy a new phone.
That being said, kudos on "going plaid" with your Quadrant score
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Im with you 100% thus my paranoia about leaving the tweaked cpu/gpu settings for more than an hour or so... Too "paranoid android"
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redpill?
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Overclocked at 1.9ghz and gpu to 640 mhz with specific undervolting. Redpill kernel...
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How is the kernel treating ya? Which one did you flash?

XxLostSoulxX said:
It's more based on how the rom works, and the kernel yes helps with CPU and GPU scores but I noticed his GPU scores are lower than mine, one of the nation reasons I'm still stock. Because it's probably persues kernel and has issues with FPS in real world and quadrant performance.
He probably ran it 1600/1600 on performance or something on those lines
Edit: this is mine stock rooted GPU much better than his, until persues can match this without overclocking the GPU just to get the same performance I do on stock I'm not switching.
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I'm stock rooted for this very reason.
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Adam1422 said:
How is the kernel treating ya? Which one did you flash?
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Its the Redpill v1.42... I prefer it compared to all the others i used ( stock, perseus, n.e.a.k., note2core). Those results were with stock rom but redpill kernel. Im a fan of omega but today i discovered another Rom (Hawkish extreme series Rom for N7100). I may try Perseus with that rom and see how it treats it...
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Phone gets hot after 10mins of use!

So my phone keeping getting hot after 10 mins of use why? I am currently running liquid smooth aosp jelly bean 4.2.1 beta 2. Is it the ROM or what?
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CaLLm3LAzY- said:
So my phone keeping getting hot after 10 mins of use why? I am currently running liquid smooth aosp jelly bean 4.2.1 beta 2. Is it the ROM or what?
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Is something driving up your CPU usage? The fastest way to check that might be to see what's draining your phone's battery using the usual methods.

CaLLm3LAzY- said:
So my phone keeping getting hot after 10 mins of use why? I am currently running liquid smooth aosp jelly bean 4.2.1 beta 2. Is it the ROM or what?
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Download ktoonz kernel then undervolt
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CaLLm3LAzY- said:
So my phone keeping getting hot after 10 mins of use why? I am currently running liquid smooth aosp jelly bean 4.2.1 beta 2. Is it the ROM or what?
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I had same problem. For me the fix was getting LeanKernel 2.0.
4 hrs screen on time! Its the best for my phone. Since all kernels are device specific it might not be best for you.
To get it go to T-Mobile gs3 go to original dev and download lean kernel 2.0. Make sure its 2.0.
T-Mobile and AT&T work the same. If you use one of the other 4.2 ROMs on here I think Liquid smooth it comes with Lean kernel pre installed.
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smelenchuk said:
Is something driving up your CPU usage? The fastest way to check that might be to see what's draining your phone's battery using the usual methods.
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My CPU is set normal at 1.5 and no I close all my apps all I just do is check my gmail or go on the web and then it just get hot.
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geoldr said:
I had same problem. For me the fix was getting LeanKernel 2.0.
4 hrs screen on time! Its the best for my phone. Since all kernels are device specific it might not be best for you.
To get it go to T-Mobile gs3 go to original dev and download lean kernel 2.0. Make sure its 2.0.
T-Mobile and AT&T work the same. If you use one of the other 4.2 ROMs on here I think Liquid smooth it comes with Lean kernel pre installed.
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Yes it dose, it comes with lean kernel 2.0 rc8 somthing like that. any other suggestions?
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CaLLm3LAzY- said:
Yes it dose, it comes with lean kernel 2.0 rc8 somthing like that. any other suggestions?
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I would suggest to update to his latest version. It no longer RC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845836
If that kernel doesnt work for you, you can always try Ktoonsez kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
But for me personally, his kernel and the stock kernel that comes with Task's ROM always make my phone hot and battery drains faster. But many people report those kernels work great for them.

geoldr said:
I would suggest to update to his latest version. It no longer RC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845836
If that kernel doesnt work for you, you can always try Ktoonsez kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
But for me personally, his kernel and the stock kernel that comes with Task's ROM always make my phone hot and battery drains faster. But many people report those kernels work great for them.
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Thanks and buy the way Is when i open the link on leans kernel do click latest kernel? So this wont damage my phone or anything ? i don't really know a lot about kernels sorry. And thanks for helping me out.
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Keep checking your processor settings, on my phone, it kept over clocking and under clocking randomly. Even without me touching the settings. Or get a widget to help you keep an eye on your ghz.
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luc.highwalker said:
Keep checking your processor settings, on my phone, it kept over clocking and under clocking randomly. Even without me touching the settings. Or get a widget to help you keep an eye on your ghz.
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My CPU is at 1512 maximum and 384 minimum and when I touch like an app or play with the phone it clocks at 1.5 and when its just sitting there it clocks at 0.3 is that what your talking about.
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CaLLm3LAzY- said:
My CPU is at 1512 maximum and 384 minimum and when I touch like an app or play with the phone it clocks at 1.5 and when its just sitting there it clocks at 0.3 is that what your talking about.
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No no. Like it would randomly change the setting to 1.9/1.8 ghz max. Sometimes it would set the max to 1.1 ghz. I donno, it was weird. Maybe that's your problem, maybe not. Every phone is different.
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luc.highwalker said:
No no. Like it would randomly change the setting to 1.9/1.8 ghz max. Sometimes it would set the max to 1.1 ghz. I donno, it was weird. Maybe that's your problem, maybe not. Every phone is different.
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Oh OK no my CPU doesn't do that It just gets hot for no reason.
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The same thing happens to me. It's not really hot, it's just kind of warm. It only happens when I'm using the phone, when it's locked it sleeps just fine and keeps cool. Otherwise it heats up and drains my battery in the process. CPU Spy shows my clock speed switches between 384Mhz and 1.5 Ghz depending on what I'm doing. My CPU usage isn't consistently high, even if its at 10% it still does it, seems quite normal. I can turn off data, wifi, bluetooth, and location services, doesn't help at all. I've tried resetting my battery stats, where I charged to 100%, cleared stats, depleted fully, then charged too 100% fully. No different. The heat comes from the bottom of the phone, maybe closer to the right side about an inch from the bottom, it is not coming from the battery. My battery usage shows high usage on the Media process or the Android System process. Ending either of them does not help, so I'm assuming they aren't actually using the battery like it says they are.
I'm running Liquid Smooth 4.2 beta 2, same as OP, with leankernel 2.2. It does the same thing with KT kernel, I've tried undervolting but it persists. I've also had this issue running slimbean, Liquidsmooth RC8, and RC9. My battery was pretty good when I used to run stock, and it was absolutely amazing when I ran LiquidSmooth RC3 and RC5.

Can someone make a stock kernel that is overclocked.

The perseous kernel runs bad imo. Takes the smoothness away I noticed.

Really.... im using it on stock deodex rom and its running smooth. ....
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mr pnut said:
Really.... im using it on stock deodex rom and its running smooth. ....
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I see it. On all benchmarks too. Try it on quadrant when the planet shows up. You will see it skip alot. Th en compare it to stock.

i observe the opposite. it's about 10 times smoother on perseus than stock.

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The perseous kernel runs bad imo. Takes the smoothness away I noticed.
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I hate to be "that guy" but really...why did you think that DEVELOPMENT would be a better place to post this than Q&A?
It's pretty much Perseus or stock. Stock runs fine for me as is.

I think different phones handle kernels different ways. My battery is better stock. Also why can people post in development. You should have to be a dev or get permission from a mod if your new.
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royshero said:
I think different phones handle kernels different ways. My battery is better stock. Also why can people post in development. You should have to be a dev or get permission from a mod if your new.
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Probably cause it really doesn't happen that often. They'll move it soon enough. I just hate opening up the forum & at the top see that the thread count has changed, so I start looking for a new rom, only to find something like this.
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aheeejd said:
Probably cause it really doesn't happen that often. They'll move it soon enough. I just hate opening up the forum & at the top see that the thread count has changed, so I start looking for a new rom, only to find something like this.
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Oh. Sorry. I didn't realize this was only dev.

smellymouse said:
I see it. On all benchmarks too. Try it on quadrant when the planet shows up. You will see it skip alot. Th en compare it to stock.
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I don't see any skipping and I'm stock deodexed also.

w7excursion said:
I don't see any skipping and I'm stock deodexed also.
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I just loaded deodex lk8 fresh installed. perseous 31 and it makes my phone run jerky. I play arcane legends aswell and its noticable there too. stock is smooth for me.

I'm using ljc. I have force gpu rendering checked also. Seems to help a little.

Hmm I noticed that frame skipping too, but even when forcing performance at 1.8ghz and capping the gpu at 533mhz it still happens (even though its capping the vsync)
but besides that perseus kernel runs smooth for everything use.
I wonder what's causing it. I haven't tried stock yet. (no joke I rooted this phone within an hour or so of owning it. Didn't even mess with it stock outside of activating it)

No one sees this really? I have a cov worker with the same setup. installed the kernel and his does the same jerkyness. so it can't be my device. I'm very keen to stuff like this btw.

smellymouse said:
Oh. Sorry. I didn't realize this was only dev.
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Did you read forum rules/device dev section rules? Because its there. Multiple times.
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Quadrant has issues on ics and jb anyways and benchmark apps really dont tell give you a look at the whole situation. I'm running perseus v31 on my rom and have it overclocked to 1.8ghz cpu and 800mhz gpu and undervolted 75mv cpu and 50mv gpu and its way smoother than stock. But then again I've odexed and optimized my rom and slightly modified the kernel a tad but b4 the modifications and odexing etc it ran just fine on deodexed ljc
I like to break stuff!

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Nicgraner said:
Did you read forum rules/device dev section rules? Because its there. Multiple times.
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no. I didn't.

Kernel works fine for me
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
-Galaxy Note II Edition

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no. I didn't.
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Maybe you should. They're there for a reason. I mean they're even stickied at the top of every subforum so you don't even have to search for them if you don't read the rules don't cry when you get flamed like a marshmallow at a campfire
I like to break stuff!

back to my original idea. It would be nice to have a total stock kernel with no tweaks at all but just the ability to overclock. anyone else want something like this?

Has anyone tried overclocking stock kernel with tegrak? I have my paid version and think I'm going to take it for a test run. Haven't really used it since my og epic days. Didn't really use it on the E4GT.
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moved

please close

Btw alcohol was used to create this. Might be flammable.

Awesome, is there a slight rundown of what this has to offer over stock?

well, it may or may not be faster/more battery life. its a test kernel to find build method and make sure things are going to work before putting 1000s of lines of code changes in

Sounds good. Flashing now, will test as much as I can.

Will test also thanks
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How's the tests going? How risky is this?
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So far it seems to be running well. Run Quadrant and it is using Eco mode as my scores varied by 2000. Don't care about scores just the feel.
The governor is ondemand and uses 1134 alot more. Which is nice not seeing 1512 mostly so battery should be better.
Do have a question though. Do you want us to test different governors? If so, what's the preferred program?
Thanks joker!! It's great to finally have a kernel to play with!!
edit. Decided to use Set CPU. Seems to be working fine. I take that back about using 1134. Guess it just happened to be the speed of choice by what I was running. Still mostly 384 and 1512. And of course Deep sleep

This has worked fine in my testing Bluetooth steaming and calls work without issue. Camera works so does WiFi. I still see the msm host wake lock but it's not that high. Got 20 thousand in antutu so it seems to work without issue.

engine95 said:
So far it seems to be running well. Run Quadrant and it is using Eco mode as my scores varied by 2000. Don't care about scores just the feel.
The governor is ondemand and uses 1134 alot more. Which is nice not seeing 1512 mostly so battery should be better.
Do have a question though. Do you want us to test different governors? If so, what's the preferred program?
Thanks joker!! It's great to finally have a kernel to play with!!
edit. Decided to use Set CPU. Seems to be working fine. I take that back about using 1134. Guess it just happened to be the speed of choice by what I was running. Still mostly 384 and 1512. And of course Deep sleep
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I didnt do anything to the govenors on this release. This is mainly a basic kernel close to stock with a couple tweaks.
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This has worked fine in my testing Bluetooth steaming and calls work without issue. Camera works so does WiFi. I still see the msm host wake lock but it's not that high. Got 20 thousand in antutu so it seems to work without issue.
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It won't get rid of wake locks. They do have a purpose, but it should reduce them. Hopefully
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Flashed no problems. Chuckled at "raping malware" and "licking ICS." We'll see what happens after it settles in over a few days.
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So far everything seems to be going well. No stability issues, camera and WiFi work fine, everything runs smoothly. Though its hard to see if this runs better or not since it ran pretty well from stock.

Woohoo! Good to see you back Joker! I was a religious follower in the MoPho forums. I don't post very often but I just wanted to say it's good to see you and I can't wait to see what you do with this ridiculously powerful phone.

Re: jokers kernels 1/17/13
tested the oc kernel and its actually works well except WiFi is broken and can't OC,
just posting info for the dev
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Re: jokers kernels 1/17/13
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tested the oc kernel and its actually works well except WiFi is broken and can't OC,
just posting info for the dev
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I never released the kernel, but yeah I reverted those oc's and decided to handwrite it. Plus I wanted to update stockish.
So Dont use octest1. It was a test.
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Re: jokers kernels 1/17/13
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I never released the kernel, but yeah I reverted those oc's and decided to handwrite it. Plus I wanted to update stockish.
So Dont use octest1. It was a test.
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Sorry hahaha couldn't help myself I'm a flashaholic
A question:
What's the point of the UC kernel if one can just lower clock speeds on OC kernel and stockish kernel?
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sharkboy0901 said:
Sorry hahaha couldn't help myself I'm a flashaholic
A question:
What's the point of the UC kernel if one can just lower clock speeds on OC kernel and stockish kernel?
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The gpu/avp/mem/cpu/etc etc will be underclocked and undervolted. sort of a "hey we have way way to much phone and everything is designed for slower crap anyways so lets also go slow" kinda kernel

Re: jokers kernels 1/17/13
Because these kernels also have libs in the zip, are we OK to just move kernel to kernel?
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engine95 said:
Because these kernels also have libs in the zip, are we OK to just move kernel to kernel?
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yes

Re: jokers kernels 1/17/13
Been on it since last night and its going good , great battery life increase. Still seeing about 40 minute of msm wake lock since being unplugged 7 hours. Thanks !
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Over clocking

Do I just need to flash a kernel to OC my phone? What's the max you can OC this phone to? What's the best OC kernel if that's what you have to do? I'm running stock with root.
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dpshptl said:
Do I just need to flash a kernel to OC my phone? What's the max you can OC this phone to? What's the best OC kernel if that's what you have to do? I'm running stock with root.
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depends what kernel you're running. go look at kernels in the original android development thread and see which kernels are able to be overclocked. gl :good:

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Do I just need to flash a kernel to OC my phone? What's the max you can OC this phone to? What's the best OC kernel if that's what you have to do? I'm running stock with root.
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You will be back in this Q&A thread real soon after you start flashing modified kernels and your phone stops working properly. LOL

Misterjunky said:
You will be back in this Q&A thread real soon after you start flashing modified kernels and your phone stops working properly. LOL
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Lmfao yea. Kernels are a tricky business if your not familiar with it then don't even mess with it. The phone is fast even when under clocked so Idk why you'd wanna over clock it. All it does is make your phone hot and drain your battery. Not to mention it could cause damage to your phones cpu
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keji13 said:
Lmfao yea. Kernels are a tricky business if your not familiar with it then don't even mess with it. The phone is fast even when under clocked so Idk why you'd wanna over clock it. All it does is make your phone hot and drain your battery. Not to mention it could cause damage to your phones cpu
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But the AnTuTu scores.....