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Ghost volume button issue on most devices
No micro sd card support
Confusing user interface
No Facebook contacts sync
No native social network widget
Can't add more home screens
Fuzzy speaker
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
No digital clock only analog widget
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
Lag in many areas
No Facebook events calendar sync
Only 5m camera
NO SWYPE
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ISSUE,
Then don't buy it. Or if you have it, return it. Or ship it to me, I'll take it.
(Sorry in advance for long post)
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Ghost volume button issue on most devices
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"Most" devices. How do you know? because people on XDA talk about it? I highly doubt it is "most" devices. You're always going to hear from people with the problem.
No micro sd card support
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Personal preference. I don't mind. Whats it matter? I have an SDcard and haven't removed in it a year and a half.
Confusing user interface
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Its a new version of android. If you're buying this phone you KNOW that its different. If its confusing to you I'm sorry but its of course going to have a learning curve. Are you gonna complain when your other phone gets updated to ICS too? Gonna stay on 2.3 for the rest of your life? Have fun.
No Facebook contacts sync
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Google has said they'll let Facebook back in when they follow the rules for contact syncing. Its Facebooks job to fix the app.
No native social network widget
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But you have specific G+, Twitter, and Facebook widgets.
Can't add more home screens
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Again, personal preference. Every Nexus has had 5. If you want more, add a launcher. And just as a side note, if you're using more than 5 screens, its faster to go to the app drawer than swipe over to a 6th/7th screen.
Fuzzy speaker
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Is this really a problem? Again, you're only going to hear from the people who have the problem, not from all the satisfied people
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
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Small cosmetic issue, again personal preference. Most people are fine with it (and I'm pretty sure you can turn off haptics in the settings).
No digital clock only analog widget
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Download a clock widget from the market. Stock android hasn't ever had a digital clock widget. And the time is in the status bar...
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
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Who cares about a benchmark score? Need to brag to your friends? All that matters is the device is quick. Its clear that Quadrant hasnt been optimized for ICS.
Lag in many areas
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Its the first phone (and a dev phone) with ICS. Its gonna be slightly off. You know this going in when you buy a Nexus. And again, it depends on whos using it and what they deep acceptable for "lag".
No Facebook events calendar sync
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Refer to the above comment on the Facebook app. Its not Google's fault.
Only 5m camera
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Which has proven to be a very capable camera if you use it right. MP =/= quality.
NO SWYPE
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Not Google's fault, again. Swype needs to be updated for ICS.
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ISSUE,
THIS DEVICE IS SERIOUSLY ****ALL I DUNNO WHT THE HYPE IS ABOUT.
THE S2 ****s all over it..
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RAGE. Buy a SGSII and shut up.
Also, why did you start a new thread just to copy and paste your whining and add "NO SWYPE"???
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THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ISSUE,
THIS DEVICE IS SERIOUSLY ****ALL I DUNNO WHT THE HYPE IS ABOUT.
THE S2 ****s all over it..
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What a complete and utter troll.
Lame gs2 fanboy. Sounds like he needs an iphone more than anything if he is 'confused'.
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"Massive"??...thats a strong term to use. Most of your points are either things we already knew or there are other ways to circumvent, so therfore a non-issue. I think you just wanted to make a thread just to be making a thread.
Annnd..i let you win, by replying to this bs
Nice one buddy
I'm just pissed off cos I paid a lot of money
Do u want to buy it? I paid £530 I have a receipt for it
If not its cool I'll return it tomorrow cos of the volume issue
Sorry if I upset u guys but I paid of lot of money that's why I'm pissed off. The volume issue doesn't help u can't hear the other party cos it goes to almost 0
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"Massive"??...thats a strong term to use. Most of your points are either things we already knew or there are other ways to circumvent, so therfore a non-issue. I think you just wanted to make a thread just to be making a thread.
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I've got them all I'm not a fanboy just want stuff to work like it should mate
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I've got them all I'm not a fanboy just want stuff to work like it should mate
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There's nothing wrong with expecting things to work. The problem is that most of the things you are expecting are things that you should have known about or things that never existed or were expected to be implemented.
Seems like OP is one of those average Android users who have not seen what stock Android is.
That's the problem with Manufacturer skins and casual users, take away Touch Wiz or HTC Sense and they're confused as hell.
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Sorry if I upset u guys but I paid of lot of money that's why I'm pissed off. The volume issue doesn't help u can't hear the other party cos it goes to almost 0
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You sound like a facebook addicted teenager. You realized that you bought a device that will set the standard for FUTURE software development right? If you want to be at the forefront of android OS, you have to let app developers to catch up. What, do you think facebook knows what will happen with ICS? If you can't live without those apps, go back to a gingerbread device, there are many choices!
I find it funny that you listed low quadrant score as an issue. You should really research about a phone before you buy it, this will inform you about the hardware limitations such as no sd card support or 5 mp camera before you take the plunge of purchasing the device.
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Ghost volume button issue on most devices
No micro sd card support - this will always be an issue. The first 2 didn't have it, why would you think the 3rd one will. Galaxy Nexus has always been a developer phone so its treated differently.
Confusing user interface - From what everyone is saying, they are loving the new interface. It's refreshing and when you get used to it, its hard for people to go back
No Facebook contacts sync
Nexus S 4G had this issue. This isn't a issue with facebook not following a certain protocol that Google requested. and they took it off the Nexus phones. Or they just don't like them because they have their version of a social network
No native social network widget
They do its called google plus. Everything isn't native but 3rd party sources
Can't add more home screens
As much as I have to kinda agree with you in this because its nice to have 7 or more screens, its a dev phone so you knew this was happening long before ICS was announced
Fuzzy speaker
that sucks, but from reviewers they say its quieter but clear
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
No digital clock only analog widget
Just get another widget that looks better anyways. They never truly had a digital clock worth adding on your home page anyways.
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
There have been cases that proven that the GN has scored better on web tests and other tests. Quadrant can be faulty. You are using a gingerbread program on a completely different OS. A bigger jump than eclair to gingerbread. I would compare the Razr scores as the initial breakdown (OMAP4430 vs OMAP4460 in the GN) and use that as your base comparing since Razr runs on Gingerbread
Lag in many areas
No Facebook events calendar sync
Only 5m camera Megapixels shouldn't matter. and Someone has done a camera comparison. The GN is not far off and infact has better low light capabilities than the S2. Once again this is a the same story over again, you knew this going from Nexus S that the camera won't be the best class, the same holds true here.
NO SWYPE - Swype will eventually be available through apk once it is compatible. Google isn't going to put swype on their phones. It's a 3rd party software and its up to other manufacturers to decide if they want it on their android device
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ISSUE, I feel ya about the volume bug. But thats what it is a bug. This is common for alot of new products, just like never buying the first year of a new model car. But alot of reviewers from publication have not seen this volume bug so it could be something else entirely and should be fixed soon.
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I put my thoughts above.
The volume bug is the only one that is severe. I don't mean to be rude, but the rest is just plain ... ignorant.
Quadrant is an accurate benchmark? It is appalling unreliable.
Megapixels is a measure of camera quality?
I'd return in your position.
What a waste, there are so many people drooling over that phone and can't yet get it...then we have to see this!
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What a waste, there are so many people drooling over that phone and can't yet get it...then we have to see this!
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if this' gonna be that kinda party i'm gonna stick my di** in the mashed potatoes! ;D
Dude, you lost me when you listed Quadrant....are you for real?
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if this' gonna be that kinda party i'm gonna stick my di** in the mashed potatoes! ;D
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Wait. You dint realize... uh nm.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.
http://majorgeeks.com/story.php?id=38037
All adblocking apps have been removed officially by Google.
I'm honestly surprised that it didn't happen sooner. Ad revenue taken from developers causes developers to cease development of apps because they aren't making any money at all. Let's face it, most of us don't buy apps. I get ad supported apps and Amazon's free app of the day. I have bought maybe 5 apps since I got the Hero when it came out...
^^ agreed ^^ it's their app their choice. You're choice to use it or not. Sucks but the way it is.
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That does suck. That was the biggest reason I rooted half of my phones...:crying:
I buy most of the apps I use. But it's just a hosts file.
Like most others here, if I don't want ads I buy the app. Devs survive on ad revenue with their free apps. I'm not trying to step on any toes, I'm no saint either, but it's not the least bit surprising that a company who gets a lot of it's money through ad revenue removed ad-blocking apps from it's marketplace. Couple bucks gets you an ad free app usually and keeps food on the dev's tables.
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Like most others here, if I don't want ads I buy the app. Devs survive on ad revenue with their free apps. I'm not trying to step on any toes, I'm no saint either, but it's not the least bit surprising that a company who gets a lot of it's money through ad revenue removed ad-blocking apps from it's marketplace. Couple bucks gets you an ad free app usually and keeps food on the dev's tables.
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I usually buy the paid apps as well, but there are free apps that don't have the option to pay to remove ads. That's where my adaway comes in. Anyway I'm sure you'll be able to find these apps on the Internet so no reason to worry
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If it's gonna make more devs, company create more apps/games for the android market then why not. I think little by little they will try to emulate the apple store with limitations and more restrictions . but like dude above me said just get the free app elsewhere, kinda the same deal with flash no biggie.
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I support apps that are worth the money, like ROM ToolBox, Carbon Backup, Nova (and not all of these even have ads) but some free ads have no pro alternatives. I'm pro for developers making money...but if a user wants to block ads, that's their choice to do so on their OPEN-SOURCE OS lol. It's not a huge problem for people like us who can simply just load the .apk up or insert a modified hostfiles..but it looks if it was an "Appleish" move and that's the main reason I'm disappointed. If anyone gets what I mean by that. Regardless, since this had to happen, hopefully the developers make more money through ads and better apps can be developed and funded for? (Just a positive insight)
TL;DR : Google shouldn't have removed apps that didn't infringe on copyrights, but some developers still offer their apps unofficially thankfully. And we should now see devs being supported more!
Yeah I know what you mean, it's open source but do you expect to be so open the more successful android becomes. That's why Google wants to get rid of removable batteries and sd cards, they essentially want to control more of what you can do with a phone. people love android because you have options that's why it's so successful unlike apple so who knows what will happen in the future.
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I also buy the apps I really like. If i use that app on occasion then i dont mind the ads, as long as they are the banners at the bottom or something, and dont just pop up in full screen when im trying to do something. Those apps that do that, i usually delete and just find an alternative app.
Some ads are intrusive especially the ones that spam your status bar with notifications about making your junk bigger. Not all apps have donate versions either as others have mentioned.
I don't know why this is upsetting it's not like ad blocking apps are going away... remember on Android we can install apps not in the play store
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Some ads are intrusive especially the ones that spam your status bar with notifications about making your junk bigger. Not all apps have donate versions either as others have mentioned.
I don't know why this is upsetting it's not like ad blocking apps are going away... remember on Android we can install apps not in the play store
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Indeed. It just feels as if Google is going towards Apples iron fist way of running things. No external sd card in the Nexus 4 and no removable battery as mentioned above? Apple phones also fill that criteria. Only time will tell to see if they become truly brazen.
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I usually buy the paid apps as well, but there are free apps that don't have the option to pay to remove ads. That's where my adaway comes in. Anyway I'm sure you'll be able to find these apps on the Internet so no reason to worry
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Exactly my reason. If an app is worthy I have no problem shelling out a few bucks for it. It's just the occasional free apps that just straight up comes with ads. No paid versions.
Well i have bought 97% of my apps so for me it's no big deal what i don't like is that my payed apps come with ingame purchase.
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I think the move sucks but honestly I'm not surprised
I assume most of the apps that got pulled are going to be online pretty soon.
http://adblockplus.org/en/android-about
I personally never removed ads anyways. The devs put a lot of time and effort into these and if I'm too cheap to pay for it, I can deal with the ads.
BTW 95% of my apps have been purchased if they have a pro/paid version.
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If I can't afford the paid version (still haven't gotten around to justifying some of them to myself) then letting them get money from someone else is the least I can do.
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Yeah I know what you mean, it's open source but do you expect to be so open the more successful android becomes. That's why Google wants to get rid of removable batteries and sd cards, they essentially want to control more of what you can do with a phone. people love android because you have options that's why it's so successful unlike apple so who knows what will happen in the future.
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I don't think it's really about that kind of control. The battery issue is about cost (and I'd guess has a lot to do with the manufacturer they're working with and what they have available that they'll work with), and the sd card issue is about Google trying to push people to use Cloud services (some parts business and some parts probably genuinely thinking it's a good idea) and a dash of them not having a clue (I love Google, but the idea that the external sd is "confusing" to users is just silly - my mom didn't know hers existed until I told her - it didn't "confuse" her, it was just a non-issue).
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If I can't afford the paid version (still haven't gotten around to justifying some of them to myself) then letting them get money from someone else is the least I can do.
I don't think it's really about that kind of control. The battery issue is about cost (and I'd guess has a lot to do with the manufacturer they're working with and what they have available that they'll work with), and the sd card issue is about Google trying to push people to use Cloud services (some parts business and some parts probably genuinely thinking it's a good idea) and a dash of them not having a clue (I love Google, but the idea that the external sd is "confusing" to users is just silly - my mom didn't know hers existed until I told her - it didn't "confuse" her, it was just a non-issue).
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Once Google has a windows and Mac app like iTunes then they could do this cloud service crap, it's not time yet. They are always going to give a lame excuse but I'm happy not all manufacturers are carrying along.
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Ive had my Note 2 now for 3 weeks and I absolutely love it. from the Amazing low light Camera to one of the best Music players on any phone in the business, however, Im finding that Im ending up just using it like my Galaxy S3 or older S2, txting, phoning, wifi and play store, yet i know its capable of so much more. I tried the 184 page pdf manual, but what a joke that is.. theyve built an amazing device with the S Pen usable in every app, yet theyve wasted sections of the manual on how to just turn on/off Flipboard, Maps, Google Earth, Music Player, send a txt or activate wifi.. Really Samsung..
Ive looked on YouTube, yet videos on tips and tricks are scattered around and tend to repeat the same things alot..
So, is there a good website that teaches/explains about how to get into the deeper side of this beast and really use it.. such as S Pen and what it can do in apps, drawings, paintings, diaries and workbooks, how to use it properly
Using the Media player over the web and the HDMI/USB through TV and setting it up..
The deeper side of the camera and video player, great apps and editors and how the device really works.
It seems a shame to spend all that money and then just use it like a SGS2.
I found this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Samsung-...&qid=1368029215&sr=1-1&keywords=galaxy+note+2
But do i need that or is there a good web resource out there
Thanks
Just go around open random apps and try out the settings.. you can probably figure out quite a lot of functions through that you might find useful.
To be honest there isn't much difference between note 2 and s3 other than the fact that the screen is bigger and you get s pen. So the point is to utilise the pen!
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Smart dock? Otherwise, it is still just a phone at the end of the day. Albeit a badass phone.
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Just go around open random apps and try out the settings.. you can probably figure out quite a lot of functions through that you might find useful.
To be honest there isn't much difference between note 2 and s3 other than the fact that the screen is bigger and you get s pen. So the point is to utilise the pen!
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I dunno I think its a better media device than the S3, to me the camera and video are much more detailed, especially in low light and has more features and lens apature, also the music player through my Sennheiser mx phones is alot more natural and less bass-y.
But thanks though, going through the S Pen settings has helped learn abit more, im a bit of a perfectionist and dont like thinking im not using its potential .
But i thought ide share this, in case anyone is feeling like me:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lucidmike78
Also..
Star Dock looks interesting, ill explore that.. but never used it before.
Thanks
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I dunno I think its a better media device than the S3, to me the camera and video are much more detailed, especially in low light and has more features and lens apature, also the music player through my Sennheiser mx phones is alot more natural and less bass-y.
But thanks though, going through the S Pen settings has helped learn abit more, im a bit of a perfectionist and dont like thinking im not using its potential .
But i thought ide share this, in case anyone is feeling like me:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lucidmike78
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Star Dock looks interesting, ill explore that.. but never used it before.
Thanks
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yes, i agree...was gonna recommend you watch this guys uploaded video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/Lucidmike78/featured), but you already did, that's good, it also helps me a lot as a new SGN2 user, just subscribe & download any useful tips you might need
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yes, i agree...was gonna recommend you watch this guys uploaded video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/Lucidmike78/featured), but you already did, that's good, it also helps me a lot as a new SGN2 user, just subscribe & download any useful tips you might need
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Thanks for the tip, appreciated, theres loads of sites around the web, but theyre all spread out. Hope your enjoying your Note 2 as well. Its a great device.
Let me know if you find any other resources and ill do like wise
I am about to buy this phone by this afternoon. I am coming from a Nexus 4. My reasons are as follows:
1. Need faster speeds (LTE).
2. Want an AMOLED screen
3. Need better battery life than what I have now
I fully intend to root this device and put CM 11 on it.
Please let me know what are the negatives that I'm in for. I've read some things, but nothing definitive that someone can point out. It would be much appreciated for those who actually have the phone to chime in and let me know what shortcomings you have with it so that I can ensure I'm making a sound decision.
Thanks as always!
You will catch hell from jealous people about the screen size, that's it. Enjoy this awesome phone!
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You will catch hell from jealous people about the screen size, that's it. Enjoy this awesome phone!
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Good one!
Do you have the phone? What negative experiences can you tell me about it?
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I fully intend to root this device and put CM 11 on it.
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If you have a choice between...
EDIT: Disregard the previous content - I was confusing my 900T and my 900V.
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If you have a choice between Android 4.3 and 4.4.x it might be better to get 4.3. From 4.3 you would be able to load an unauthorized 4.4.2 which has more potential then the authotized 4.4.2.
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Sorry, I'm not following. I read some things about a newer bootloader which sort of screwed things up. Is that what you are referring to?
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Disregard - I edited my previous message.
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Can't really think of any negatives. The Note 3 is a great phone. One negative you might get from someone is that the Amoled screens are notorious for having burn in. I have yet to experience this and haven't seen any reports of it on the Note 3. I don't think it's anything to worry about and I'm sure Samsung made sure the display on the Note 3 is top notch.
I just thought of a negative actually: in my opinion, the display is a bit over saturated, but it's not too bad.
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Can't really think of any negatives. The Note 3 is a great phone. One negative you might get from someone is that the Amoled screens are notorious for having burn in. I have yet to experience this and haven't seen any reports of it on the Note 3. I don't think it's anything to worry about and I'm sure Samsung made sure the display on the Note 3 is top notch.
I just thought of a negative actually: in my opinion, the display is a bit over saturated, but it's not too bad.
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Would you guys say that CM11 is stable enough in its nightly form to be used as a daily driver?
And believe it or not, my Nexus 4 has temporary burn-in even though it's an IPS screen, while my old SGS 3 which is an AMOLED did NOT have any burn in.
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Haven't ran CM in a while. I feel I get a much more out of the phone on stock rom (with Google Now launcher and some Wanam Xposed modding)
but to answer your question, yes CM11 is very stable on the note 3 other than NFC not working. Unfortunately, you wont find any AOSP rom at this moment for the Note 3 that has NFC working. I can't really say if the latest CM11 nightlies are stable or not because I haven't ran CM in a while but there is the M5 build which I can tell you is stable. You can check the "official CM nighties" thread in the development section for more solid impute.
To make my answer more strait forward, CM11 nightless have always been stable enough for daily drivers (when I ran them) but I can't confirm that the latest builds are stable because I'm not running CM. Sorry if I'm confusing lol
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Do you have the phone? What negative experiences can you tell me about it?
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Yes I do have a note 3. Best phone I have owned, no regrets, no negatives to me at least.
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Yes I do have a note 3. Best phone I have owned, no regrets, no negatives to me at least.
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Awesome. Just bought the phone a few minutes ago. Can't wait!
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Awesome. Just bought the phone a few minutes ago. Can't wait!
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Enjoy bud!!!
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Awesome. Just bought the phone a few minutes ago. Can't wait!
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Sorry, I just really don't believe in CM on the Note. Other phones for sure. But not on the Note. Putting CM on the Note is like buying a BMW and replacing the entire car with after market. You don't get all the Sammy stuff that this phone was built for. There's alot of gimmicky stuff that nobody (well I don't) use, but there are some fundamental things that are built into TW like note app, and things like that. Using CM i have been able to get all that functionality back, but using alot of 3rd party apps that just don't work as smoothly. My big thing is Sammy trying to make you use it's apps and not giving you the option to map buttons, flicks, blah blah, with other apps like google search.
All in all it comes down to what you prefer and what makes you happy. Very good phone with premium build and specs.
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Sorry, I just really don't believe in CM on the Note. Other phones for sure. But not on the Note. Putting CM on the Note is like buying a BMW and replacing the entire car with after market. You don't get all the Sammy stuff that this phone was built for. There's alot of gimmicky stuff that nobody (well I don't) use, but there are some fundamental things that are built into TW like note app, and things like that. Using CM i have been able to get all that functionality back, but using alot of 3rd party apps that just don't work as smoothly. My big thing is Sammy trying to make you use it's apps and not giving you the option to map buttons, flicks, blah blah, with other apps like google search.
All in all it comes down to what you prefer and what makes you happy. Very good phone with premium build and specs.
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I really appreciate the input.
I'm not too interested in all the gimmicks Samsung put on the phone to begin with. Even if I just get a phone with a big screen with CM11, as basic as it sounds, that'd be good enough for me.
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Sorry, I just really don't believe in CM on the Note. Other phones for sure. But not on the Note. Putting CM on the Note is like buying a BMW and replacing the entire car with after market. You don't get all the Sammy stuff that this phone was built for. There's alot of gimmicky stuff that nobody (well I don't) use, but there are some fundamental things that are built into TW like note app, and things like that. Using CM i have been able to get all that functionality back, but using alot of 3rd party apps that just don't work as smoothly. My big thing is Sammy trying to make you use it's apps and not giving you the option to map buttons, flicks, blah blah, with other apps like google search.
All in all it comes down to what you prefer and what makes you happy. Very good phone with premium build and specs.
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I agree. The Note 3 really doesn't have any lag with the TW launcher (though i use Nova Prime) anymore and I use the Stylus and like some of the features it has. To me it's like neutering the phone removing the Spen functionality. Why buy the phone and remove a lot of the point of buying it? Plus TW has grown on me, the UI of CM is so bland it looks like a kids project. I used to use CM on my Bionic but ever since they went commercial and became Cyanogen Inc. i will not use CM anymore, not after what they pulled on developers where they basically stole a lot of the work that individuals did and let CM use to help polish their OS and didn't even at least give credit in most cases, like CM designed it.
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I agree. The Note 3 really doesn't have any lag with the TW launcher (though i use Nova Prime) anymore and I use the Stylus and like some of the features it has. To me it's like neutering the phone removing the Spen functionality. Why buy the phone and remove a lot of the point of buying it? Plus TW has grown on me, the UI of CM is so bland it looks like a kids project. I used to use CM on my Bionic but ever since they went commercial and became Cyanogen Inc. i will not use CM anymore, not after what they pulled on developers where they basically stole a lot of the work that individuals did and let CM use to help polish their OS and didn't even at least give credit in most cases, like CM designed it.
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Yeah. Alot of us were kinda perved about CM doing that, but in return, they gave us "MOUNDS" of stuff to work with. So it's kinda a win , win. Plus Koush works tireslessly still to help out both the forum and the community. So i feel like, whatever lil tweak i announced on here over the years, these guys probably already knew about. Love the XDA community.
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Yeah. Alot of us were kinda perved about CM doing that, but in return, they gave us "MOUNDS" of stuff to work with. So it's kinda a win , win. Plus Koush works tireslessly still to help out both the forum and the community. So i feel like, whatever lil tweak i announced on here over the years, these guys probably already knew about. Love the XDA community.
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Exactly. This is true. I'm not tied to the hip with CM, but they just update a lot more frequently. Honestly, any ROM that gives me the flexibility that CM does, I'd be cool with.
I'm with you guys about cm on the note, it was great on previous devices but it just doesn't do the note line any justice. With the specs these notes come with even the bloat fest that is TouchWiz runs flawlessly, I use both adw ex & nova prime myself for a slimmer and more customizable experience but honestly the stock tw launcher is much improved since it's first showing back on the original galaxy s phones.
You buy a note 3 for its beast like specs, it's premium quality sized screen and s-pen. Only people with tiny hands can claim they prefer an HTC one m7/m8. Don't even get me started about build quality on HTC since people will just put a plastic case over it anyways defeating the purpose. Besides note line have proven to be the real game changers when it comes to cutting edge performance and specs, I was yawning over all the other devices that were struggling to keep up with our note 3 lol
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Yeah. Alot of us were kinda perved about CM doing that, but in return, they gave us "MOUNDS" of stuff to work with. So it's kinda a win , win. Plus Koush works tireslessly still to help out both the forum and the community. So i feel like, whatever lil tweak i announced on here over the years, these guys probably already knew about. Love the XDA community.
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Yeah I can see and understand where you're coming from. I know Koush does a lot for the community but that bothered me a bit. Plus the note takes a step back with CM in my opinion so i haven't even been keeping up with CM actually.
This is a big deal for me, if we never receive root.
Let the discussion start.
http://bgr.com/2014/10/29/android-5-0-lollipop-feature/
OK, so this is pretty exciting information, i just hope this isnt something the carriers can disable in some way.
That being said, I do see one major downfall and that is, IMO, this might cause carriers to push the update slower, or even omit some devices that would normally get updated to make sure their apps are getting used on as many devices as possible.
Cant wait!!!
If true, it's a game changer. But why do I get the feeling carriers will still find a way to install crapware/bloatware that we can't remove.
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If true, it's a game changer. But why do I get the feeling carriers will still find a way to install crapware/bloatware that we can't remove.
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cloudraker said:
OK, so this is pretty exciting information, i just hope this isnt something the carriers can disable in some way.
That being said, I do see one major downfall and that is, IMO, this might cause carriers to push the update slower, or even omit some devices that would normally get updated to make sure their apps are getting used on as many devices as possible.
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Indeed, I am skeptical....but if GOOGLE who makes ANDROID says it will be done. I believe it.
pr0cl1v1ty said:
This is a big deal for me, if we never receive root.
Let the discussion start.
http://bgr.com/2014/10/29/android-5-0-lollipop-feature/
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Damn, I agree! The main reason I wanted Root (well two reasons) was for bloatware removal/freeze, and for backing up apps/app data (especially games!)....Well now with most apps doing the cloud-save thing, if Lollipop really does allow us to remove both carrier AND oem bloatware, I won't be as desperate to Root....although IF Root ever comes to our ATT Note 4, I'll still Root, just won't be as desperately needed. I'd still like to put a custom ROM on my Note4 someday, but I can wait a year or so.....after I'm out of warranty
Lets look at this like the millions upon millions of people who own a smartphone and never, ever figure out even the basics on how to use it. You know the ones, the idiots who buy the iPhone for an outrageous price, and don't even know how to use text messaging. (My mother ... I sent her a picture while on vacation of her grand children, then when I got home she handed me her phone and said "What did you do to my phone, it now has this thing on it" and I had to show her the message!) We see it all the time. People who don't even know that there is a calculator, or how to set up their email, or how to do anything other than Candy Crush on it...
The carriers can do whatever they want to those phones. Those people (and I would bet you are looking at 90% or more of smartphone owners) don't know how to uninstall an app, or don't bother to try. You could make the boatware uninstallable and the vast majority of people would still have it, and never know the difference. Up until recently the only people taking off bloatware were people like us who found a way... Root hasn't been this hard for very long, so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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lets look at this like the millions upon millions of people who own a smartphone and never, ever figure out even the basics on how to use it. You know the ones, the idiots who buy the iphone for an outrageous price, and don't even know how to use text messaging. (my mother ... I sent her a picture while on vacation of her grand children, then when i got home she handed me her phone and said "what did you do to my phone, it now has this thing on it" and i had to show her the message!) we see it all the time. People who don't even know that there is a calculator, or how to set up their email, or how to do anything other than candy crush on it...
The carriers can do whatever they want to those phones. Those people (and i would bet you are looking at 90% or more of smartphone owners) don't know how to uninstall an app, or don't bother to try. You could make the boatware uninstallable and the vast majority of people would still have it, and never know the difference. Up until recently the only people taking off bloatware were people like us who found a way... Root hasn't been this hard for very long, so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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did you just call your mom stupid?
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did you just call your mom stupid?
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Yes, for 2 reasons. Buying an iPhone and having absolutely no idea why she did it. I think people who are passionate about the iPhone an want one, more than anything else are delusional, but at least most of them can articulate why they want it, and many of them use it to its very limited potential. Then there is my mom, who got an iPhone because to her, thats was really the only phone they had at the store. Its falling for the advertising.
And the second reason... she released me into the wild to be a productive member of society... anyone with half a brain would have realized that it would be a key step in the collapse of modern civilization. :silly:
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Yes, for 2 reasons. Buying an iPhone and having absolutely no idea why she did it. I think people who are passionate about the iPhone an want one, more than anything else are delusional, but at least most of them can articulate why they want it, and many of them use it to its very limited potential. Then there is my mom, who got an iPhone because to her, thats was really the only phone they had at the store. Its falling for the advertising.
And the second reason... she released me into the wild to be a productive member of society... anyone with half a brain would have realized that it would be a key step in the collapse of modern civilization. :silly:
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lol, im glad my mom bought an s3. I am also glad they have apps that allow me to remotely log into her phone while shes on it and fix issues she has.
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lol, im glad my mom bought an s3. I am also glad they have apps that allow me to remotely log into her phone while shes on it and fix issues she has.
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What app is this??? I have never heard of it, and it would be extremely useful for my parents.
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....so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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I am not sure if you understand that we don't care about those other 90%...we care about our 10% who is smart enough to utilize what we own.
pr0cl1v1ty said:
What app is this??? I have never heard of it, and it would be extremely useful for my parents.
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Tell them to download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamviewer.quicksupport.market
Once that is installed they open it and leave it open, and you have to have this installed on a pc
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index....TFrZF9HZKyUVHr6jEal4CROc1rOSRpZA_txoCWgXw_wcB
its totally free if you use it for personal use. You can see their device, transfer files, change settings. Its really cool!
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Tell them to download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamviewer.quicksupport.market
Once that is installed they open it and leave it open, and you have to have this installed on a pc
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index....TFrZF9HZKyUVHr6jEal4CROc1rOSRpZA_txoCWgXw_wcB
its totally free if you use it for personal use. You can see their device, transfer files, change settings. Its really cool!
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OMG....awesome, thank you so much sir.
What's up with all the iPhone hate? Different strokes for different folks; no reason to bad mouth others for a difference in taste.
Well, seems the way around this is already out there. This will just continue to put these apps on like they currently do, and we still can't remove them. This will only be handy if they have their programs to be downloaded automatically from the play store.....which they probably won't, they'll keep them in the system.
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Well, seems the way around this is already out there. This will just continue to put these apps on like they currently do, and we still can't remove them. This will only be handy if they have their programs to be downloaded automatically from the play store.....which they probably won't, they'll keep them in the system.
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Any proof to this? Where are you getting this information from?
I hope this gives users the ability to remove these apps. Hell if Microsoft can pull it off so should Google. I have disabled over 20 apps on my AT&T Note 4 with the majority being carrier bloatware. Ridiculous.
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Any proof to this? Where are you getting this information from?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-crapware-automatically-which-is-good-maybe/
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-crapware-automatically-which-is-good-maybe/
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This is only for phones that come with 5.0 on them. All phones upgraded from KitKat to 5.0 will not have this feature. Also these same updated phones will not have encryption as their default setting either.
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