[Q] which new phone - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
After a long relationship with Xperia ARC ,had bought it in 2011. still happy with it and plan to keep it and move on to
some new device.
i'm willing to spend upto $750. i have xperia z1 in mind. please share your views about any other brands or makes
your suggestions will help me buy a better phone .
thanks in advance

Buy samsung s4 ... you will get you OS update soon enough. except apple & sammy , all OEM sucks with update.(tested)

I´m like you. Xperia arc since 2011. I´m going to buy the new nexus 5. Don´t buy sony, as you experienced in xperia arc, after one year no updates (also on my girlfriend xperia s). And the most important clean android (not like samsung)

Me personally,i'm gonna wait until nexus 5 gets out or nexus 4,nexus devices gets updates since they from google,right??? I mean i know lg makes them but...
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Like choosing a ROM, each phone has a specific selling point. You can't exactly pinpoint which phone is the best of all, so just find one that suits your needs.
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I feel u must go for the nexus 5 if u want to stay updated with the latest and cleanest android OS
Else Z1 is a great choice
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well after a long thought and thanks to input by you guys and the various posts on other device xda forum boards i
have decided to go with nexus 5 , hope google announces it early in my country.

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The xperia play prototype

My friends dad knows someone who works at Sony as a developer. He has the prototype and through many methods I have tried rooting it.
He is possibly updating to the xperia play 2 soon
I need some methods on rooting please. I think the boot loader is unlocked already. The model is the r800 he gets software updates weekly so I believe his story. Any suggestions? I will provide any information you need
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Um, the Xperia Play is already released? I don't understand the importance of your post
If you want to root the Play, try looking at the forum stickies. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Yeah I'm confused? The Xperia Play has been out, and is in fact rootable.....
Do you mean he has a prototype of the Xperia PLAY 2?
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Do you mean he just gets updates to test?
Im assuming he means the developer Xperia Play which has the HDMI port on it?
Surely FlashTool can get that thing rooted? Or at least, a new ROM/Kernel on it that is rooted?
He is using the xperia play 1
He Will soon be getting the xperia play 2 prototype.
He is getting DEV roms from sony
I tried super 1 click, the sony flash tool (cant remeber what it was called) and they dident work.
i will try someof the methods you guys sugested.
i can try to provide a system dump if u need
he is constantly getting updates and his kernal is always changing.
He also gets horrible battery life. (like 5-6 hours standby)
Regarding the HDMI, i dident see one but it was a very quick look so ill look again
What are the model #'s of the xperia play devices
Like i said, his model is the R800, no x, i or at
grassyloki said:
He Will soon be getting the xperia play 2 prototype.
He is getting DEV roms from sony
I tried super 1 click, the sony flash tool (cant remeber what it was called) and they dident work.
i will try someof the methods you guys sugested.
i can try to provide a system dump if u need
he is constantly getting updates and his kernal is always changing.
He also gets horrible battery life. (like 5-6 hours standby)
Regarding the HDMI, i dident see one but it was a very quick look so ill look again
What are the model #'s of the xperia play devices
Like i said, his model is the R800, no x, i or at
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I dont see why Sony would make an Xperia PLAY 2 and name R800. Mind getting a photo of this supposed Xperia PLAY 2. And dont take this the wrong way but I highly highly doubt that Sony has plans for a PLAY 2. Considering it would compete with the Vita, and Sony has even come out and said No XP2. Not to say that companies havent denied thigns before only to see a release.
In a nutshell I think what you think you have is actually the current Xperia PLAY that we all have from 18 months ago.
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I dont see why Sony would make an Xperia PLAY 2 and name R800. Mind getting a photo of this supposed Xperia PLAY 2. And dont take this the wrong way but I highly highly doubt that Sony has plans for a PLAY 2. Considering it would compete with the Vita, and Sony has even come out and said No XP2. Not to say that companies havent denied thigns before only to see a release.
In a nutshell I think what you think you have is actually the current Xperia PLAY that we all have from 18 months ago.
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Yeah I agree with this guy, you sure it's an xperia play 2 & not some other sony phone?
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Thinking of Exchanging my Ion for...(Need opinions)

So, I just did my phone upgrade last week, for those who did not see my initial post on the bootloader issue with the ION.
I upgraded from Galaxy S2 i777 AT&T to the Sony Xperia ION AT&T, little did I know about the the bootloader issue when I got the ION.
Now I am considering taking this ION back for one of the following. Please keep in mind, I enjoy having the ability to install ROMs/Kernels.
Here are the other phones I am considering, I would really appreciate pros and cons and opinions. Even if the opinion is to keep the ION.
Phones I am Considering.
LG Nitro HD (bootloader? Support CWM? Roms/Kernels?)
LG Escape (bootloader? Support CWM? Roms/Kernels?)
Motorola Atrix HD (bootloader? Support CWM? Roms/Kernels?)
Samsung Galaxy S2 (Yes same one I had, gave my original to my Father)
Sony Xperia TL (bootloader? Support CWM? Roms/Kernels?)
I know not everyone will know EVERYTHING about EVERY device. I am just looking for opinions. And if you know offhand, on weather bootloader is unlockable,,,or needs to be?
Should I hold out on the ION and wait for bootloader unlock?
Should I just go back to Galaxy S2 i777?
I am now researching all of these phones and I made a small list of things I would like to have (besides Kernel/Rom)
FM Transmitter (My Saturn Vue has an AUX 3.5mm slot which is nice, but my GMC Envoy does not and am forced to use addon 3rd party FM transmitter...BLAH)
8gb ish internal storage
MicroSD access without having to pull out the battery (Im looking at you Galaxy S2 i777)
720p Screen
4" minimum screen
So what do you guys think? Hold out on bootloader unlock for ion? Or choose to pick a new phone or go back with Galaxy S2.
Any help and or opinions are very much appreciated.
On a side note, I submitted my MIME(sp?) through the sony unlock website for the ION and got an email with a code for it. (LT28at) But cannot enter fastboot mode.
Unless I have to call Sony or something...but that is an entirely different topic belonging in Q/A.
Thanks for reading.
considering your options !
i will recommend you to go for none of the above !
talking about the lg nitro, the screen is a marvel but battery is really horrible !
there are custom roms but dont expect lg to release official jb for this anytime soon ! i am saying this as i owned a nitro before !
atrix hd has official jb 4.1.2 but bootloader is locked or you have to use bootstrap recovery and it only has a couple of custom roms and frankly i dont think it will get future updates and roms !
lg escape just has root atm and no custom roms !!
i maybe wrong over here though !
i wouldn't even recommend going back to s2 as you've already used it before and is a much older device now !
you may choose and xperia t/tl or any other samsung/xperia (ones with krait cores) if you like to flash custom roms !!
good luck choosing the right one !
TL has locked bootloader but its a great phone. Love mine.
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Almost every phone for ATT has nonunlockable bootloaders. There are a few that you can circumvent using tricks but they can be risky. Sounds like your best bet is just to buy an unlocked phone. It is expensive but worth it IMHO.
Wait, and buy an Xperia ZL
I love my ION from att. It's locked but it was FREE.
I just looked ifs free again w/upgrade, the TL is only $50.
I say get the free one and save up for a unlocked model to play with. SPECTRE51 will tell you how easily he switches thru 4 devices
~Jaramie
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Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread
ToledoJab said:
I love my ION from att. It's locked but it was FREE.
I just looked ifs free again w/upgrade, the TL is only $50.
I say get the free one and save up for a unlocked model to play with. SPECTRE51 will tell you how easily he switches thru 4 devices
~Jaramie
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Yep that's what I love about AT&T. just swapping the sim card and using a different phone.
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Nek0x90 said:
Wait, and buy an Xperia ZL
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This :good:
Better to wait for the Z/ZL than your options
I miss my gs2
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ZL's fate

Is ZL's fate going to be ended up like xperia ion? I see similar patterns in sony's way of working, Xperia S and Xperia ion, ion gets neglected. Now Z and ZL, ZL gets updates slower the Z. I thought both of them got .307 firmware certified together? Btw, xperia ion's screen contast is better the xperia S, similarity ZL's screen is better then Z!! Wth..
This is not the end of ZL yet...
mybe because Z is more popular than ZL..
thats why sony gives more to Z than ZL..
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Hopefully, how i hope the .307 upgrade will give me the colours of Xperia ion. lol
Damn what a bunch of crying babies around!!!!!! Jesuschrist!!
Everyday I see a new post about Sony updates and ****.. Why didn't you buy a SG4 an HTC or something different? For real. The past years I have been rolling Samsung and it was the same story... Now since I've got my ZL I've received 2 updates in less than 2 months... What else you want.? Seriously guys stop this trolling and get yourself a nexus if you are looking for constant updates... No hard feelings for real..
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Lonzo_SGS2_506 said:
Damn what a bunch of crying babies around!!!!!! Jesuschrist!!
Everyday I see a new post about Sony updates and ****.. Why didn't you buy a SG4 an HTC or something different? For real. The past years I have been rolling Samsung and it was the same story... Now since I've got my ZL I've received 2 updates in less than 2 months... What else you want.? Seriously guys stop this trolling and get yourself a nexus if you are looking for constant updates... No hard feelings for real..
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While I agree with your message, I would have posted it in a slightly nicer tone. Sony has been great with updates, so far. They're fixing issues and improving upon current features. What else can you ask for? These updates are FREE, we paid for the phone as is and that is for any phone you buy.
ryude said:
While I agree with your message, I would have posted it in a slightly nicer tone. Sony has been great with updates, so far. They're fixing issues and improving upon current features. What else can you ask for? These updates are FREE, we paid for the phone as is and that is for any phone you buy.
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Cool bro:thumbup:
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+1
we probably have here one type of firmware update addiction by some of the participants of forum Seriously, I think Xperia ZL is one hell of a phone out of a box and we are already getting updates. I am also not totally satisfied with everything, but who/what is perfect ? In such cases I always remember the movie Some Like It Hot and last sentence: "Nobody's Perfect" and then is everything easier for me
Sry for offtopic
chill bro, its just a casual remark that i merely hope for only, because a saw a major screen contrast improvement in the Z after the update and hope that ZL would get it too. No body is complaining, Btw, Singapore has Speech freedom . Ofcos i do like ZL, if not i would not sell my Z away for a ZL !! Perheps as someone said, Z is more Popular thats why its getting updates faster, i just do really hope ZL would not be neglected. You see, SONY phones are real slow here in Singapore, i cant even find a decent case/ pouch here! Worst of all, the sales person at SONY CENTER told me that they will not be bringing in any ZLs any more due to the low demand. So chill bro, i would appreciate a nicer tone. No heart feelings.
finoqq84 said:
chill bro, its just a casual remark that i merely hope for only, because a saw a major screen contrast improvement in the Z after the update and hope that ZL would get it too. No body is complaining, Btw, Singapore has Speech freedom . Ofcos i do like ZL, if not i would not sell my Z away for a ZL !! Perheps as someone said, Z is more Popular thats why its getting updates faster, i just do really hope ZL would not be neglected. You see, SONY phones are real slow here in Singapore, i cant even find a decent case/ pouch here! Worst of all, the sales person at SONY CENTER told me that they will not be bringing in any ZLs any more due to the low demand. So chill bro, i would appreciate a nicer tone. No heart feelings.
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+1 LoL. I have xperia Ion and know the feeling
still no signs of .307..
mmm I feel the same with the S2 when the S3 has 4.1.2 and the S2 no have a announced update (now has 4.2.2) wait only wait the ZL and Z are now the flag phones for Sony. and the phone (for the date of the topic) the .256 is from 28 for May? what do you want a Upgrade per every week? my Ex phone the Galaxy SIII has 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 Leak on the 4.1.2 Update now is updated every 3 weeks and is the same for the before update! any new function or a interesting thing same bug same problems etc... if you want update secured go to nexus or Cyanogen. this phone have 2 months in the market And the last update on 27 Of may do you think this phone is Abandoned or anything else?
Whatever AOSP Program for the Z is a placebo I don't Believe so much on that programs from the companies.
Sorry My English if is bad
And other thing Sony make the options for AOSP this phone has Cyanogen full working that thing in Samsung never happen after Months for Work for the Developers and the open source programs not is good
Rodro said:
mmm I feel the same with the S2 when the S3 has 4.1.2 and the S2 no have a announced update (now has 4.2.2) wait only wait the ZL and Z are now the flag phones for Sony. and the phone (for the date of the topic) the .256 is from 28 for May? what do you want a Upgrade per every week? my Ex phone the Galaxy SIII has 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 Leak on the 4.1.2 Update now is updated every 3 weeks and is the same for the before update! any new function or a interesting thing same bug same problems etc... if you want update secured go to nexus or Cyanogen. this phone have 2 months in the market And the last update on 27 Of may do you think this phone is Abandoned or anything else?
Whatever AOSP Program for the Z is a placebo I don't Believe so much on that programs from the companies.
Sorry My English if is bad
And other thing Sony make the options for AOSP this phone has Cyanogen full working that thing in Samsung never happen after Months for Work for the Developers and the open source programs not is good
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Period!
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randy_c said:
+1 LoL. I have xperia Ion and know the feeling
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Me too.. I got my Ion just a few hours.. It's used anyway but still looks like new, so i decided to bought it for my sister..
Yes, Ion is another devices that not so popular..
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daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
Me too.. I got my Ion just a few hours.. It's used anyway but still looks like new, so i decided to bought it for my sister..
Yes, Ion is another devices that not so popular..
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Good brother I bet she's happy to have one.
randy_c said:
Good brother I bet she's happy to have one.
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btw, Ion and ZL is a rare device now.. take good care of it :thumbup:
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Less updates means less things need fixing! I have a Nexus 4 and the ZL and even though the Nexus 4 gets the latest and greatest Google software, I still like the ZL more. I would have probably liked the Z too, but there's still no T-Mobile US compatible model out yet, and the ZL is cheaper.
I get a lot of compliments on it, it's very unique.
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Less updates means less things need fixing! I have a Nexus 4 and the ZL and even though the Nexus 4 gets the latest and greatest Google software, I still like the ZL more. I would have probably liked the Z too, but there's still no T-Mobile US compatible model out yet, and the ZL is cheaper.
I get a lot of compliments on it, it's very unique.
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Period!
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The reason ZL recieved less updates is that it has less things to be fixed. The first update which was .434 was released on Z and ZL at same time as both devices suffered from sudden death issue. ZL also has the white balance setting from start which Z got in .253 update. Even ZL has slightly better display than Z. ZL's .253 update was just for colour correction and some camera improvement. And for .307 update, it only has speed dial setting and not even all variants of Z have got this update. So now that Z and ZL are equal in stability and fixes sony will release the later updates at same time for both of these devices
And most important!! You wont get any other 5inch device in such small frame
Havnt I told you! ZL got 4.2.2 update before Z
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Havnt I told you! ZL got 4.2.2 update before Z
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OMG!!! And as u said BEFORE the XZ ... just waiting to get home to update via PCC
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[Q] Android 4.4 kitkat any chance for S/SL,acro S?

Well maybe a lot of us we now that today Google anunced the next Android and noo its not 5.0 Key lime pie it's Kit kat 4.4....
since qualcomm does not release drivers an we are for that screwed up to be on 4.1.2 (and not andorid 4.3 or at least 4.2) ans that sony it's a sh*t in updates
You think that we are going to recive it?
the great "slogan" of kitkat "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody."
wat you do you think or expecta abour that?
Personally i think that will remplace the old 2.3 to 4.4 and the JB to 4.4 will add a lot more of features andd the fragmentation will be "gone" and all in 4.4, but then i think so twice and F*ck if sony cant give us 4.2 and 4.3 because of qualcom we will stay in 4.1 :S
OFFICIALLY, I don't think so. But i believe the developer in XDA will sort it out, somehow. Oh by the way, i'm fine with 4.1.2.
The Xperia S is getting older by the day, so I don't think that there will be any chance of an official 4.4 update for our phone. I do think that developers will create some 4.4 ROMs for it, though. I wish I could try out the selection of ROMs out there, but my bootloader can not be unlocked.
We can only count for Rayman and letama in this situation
In my view it is not going to happen. When will they release kitkat? 2014?
These phones just get too old...
i dont see any point about "the phone is old".
so what? yes it's getting older, but it doesn't mean lost all capability for running new OS.
in my opinion, it just marketing strategy from manufacturer, they want our money. so they stop support for "old" hardware. Of course, they can create new software for our old xperia with additional budget if they want to do so, but they raise nothing.
i didn't blame qualcomm or sony. this is very logic marketing strategy from manufacturer, i will doing the same if i'm the CEO.
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i dont see any point about "the phone is old".
so what? yes it's getting older, but it doesn't mean lost all capability for running new OS.
in my opinion, it just marketing strategy from manufacturer, they want our money. so they stop support for "old" hardware. Of course, they can create new software for our old xperia with additional budget if they want to do so, but they raise nothing.
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Never said it lost capability, and I agree, it is most likely a marketing strategy to end support for old products and push for people to fork out money for their newer product range.
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if sony isn't releasing more software updates, at least we can ask them to unlock our bootloaders when they drop support?
SFU11 said:
i dont see any point about "the phone is old".
so what? yes it's getting older, but it doesn't mean lost all capability for running new OS.
in my opinion, it just marketing strategy from manufacturer, they want our money. so they stop support for "old" hardware. Of course, they can create new software for our old xperia with additional budget if they want to do so, but they raise nothing.
i didn't blame qualcomm or sony. this is very logic marketing strategy from manufacturer, i will doing the same if i'm the CEO.
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Well I still partly blame Qualcomm, and Sony shouldn't have used such an old SoC. But if I really cared, I wouldn't have bought this phone, it's still miles ahead of the armv6 thing I had before. Anyway, you're right it's partly marketing, they want to sell new phones. And it's still a management problem. You can't just conjure up firmware, some developer needs to make it. Sony has a lot of models to support so developers have to be reassigned to newer models.
But that's part of the problem, I don't get why Sony makes such an abundant amount of models. Instead of making something like the Xperia L or M, they could still make the Xperia S and sell that for about the same price (and XS is way better specced than XL). Something like Samsung does with their Galaxy S (insert number) Advance/Plus/Whatever phones. I thought Sony was going to concentrate on the high-end market, but they keep on making those BS cheap phones that make Android look bad. I'm sure Sony could manufacture and sell an Xperia S or T for about €200 right now.
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if sony isn't releasing more software updates, at least we can ask them to unlock our bootloaders when they drop support?
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Don't blame Sony on that one. It's your provider demanding a locked bootloader and you bought it through them (probably sponsored with your subscription plan). I don't usually tell people to get a Samsung, but next time you get a phone with your subscription, get one with a bootloader that's less secure. I know the 2011 Xperia's were easier to unlock, but that was no excuse to just blindly assume the 2012 line is (if you even researched that). I heard that some Samsung phones have secure bootloaders in the US though, so even that party might be over. In general though I'd advise you to get a SIM-only subscription and be the boss over your own phone (and yeah that could mean paying €400 instead of €100 for your phone, you want an unlockable bootloader or not? At least you save on the cheaper subscription)
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if sony isn't releasing more software updates, at least we can ask them to unlock our bootloaders when they drop support?
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Good idea but I like more to a refined campaign give my Xperia S for a discount for Xperia SP, or Z o ZL, but the bootloader it's not a bad idea
But it was supposed that key lime pie will be able do fit on a 512 ram phone if really its the case then 2.3 will jump to 5.0(and Xperia of 2011 should have to) but it's not 5.0 it's 4.4 and referring to the slogan "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody." I hope that in October give us a good idea of what means
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Don't blame Sony on that one. It's your provider demanding a locked bootloader and you bought it through them (probably sponsored with your subscription plan). I don't usually tell people to get a Samsung, but next time you get a phone with your subscription, get one with a bootloader that's less secure. I know the 2011 Xperia's were easier to unlock, but that was no excuse to just blindly assume the 2012 line is (if you even researched that). I heard that some Samsung phones have secure bootloaders in the US though, so even that party might be over. In general though I'd advise you to get a SIM-only subscription and be the boss over your own phone (and yeah that could mean paying €400 instead of €100 for your phone, you want an unlockable bootloader or not? At least you save on the cheaper subscription)
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I'm not complaining with the updates so far. I think they did a good job (although a bit late) with the updates, but if the phone is able to run the new android versions, they could give us a chance. Also, after they drop support the subscription period will be over, so the phone will be 100% ours.
This is just like what people did to apple when the iPod 3 came out. People wanted all the awesome features of 3.1.2 on the iPod touch 2 the multi tasking and what not and apple said it couldn't handle it. Well an official 3.1.2 came out for the iPod 2 and my god was it buggy slow choppy and all around ****. Sometimes it is just too much for the device to handle, note that I may be wrong for the iOS version that first had multitasking but that's besides the point
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This is just like what people did to apple when the iPod 3 came out. People wanted all the awesome features of 3.1.2 on the iPod touch 2 the multi tasking and what not and apple said it couldn't handle it. Well an official 3.1.2 came out for the iPod 2 and my god was it buggy slow choppy and all around ****. Sometimes it is just too much for the device to handle, note that I may be wrong for the iOS version that first had multitasking but that's besides the point
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Well you get a point but it's like put JB Into a Xperia x8 it can't handle it because of ram, internal storage etc but for example the Xperia S ( it's the device I have) it can handle 4.3 but it does not came we have to wait and see if " for everyone" really it is and tat means lower requirements in older phones, not for having 1 year they can't handle it(look the nexus4 it's old and update)
And well for that they make proves(well Sony make them with the customer) and if not f*ck we will port it XD
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To TS
Please add ion into it...I feel like my device is forgotten
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Let's just hope we get KitKat..
And also soon, not a year later..
so people this was one of the reason so i sold my xperia sl yesterday and bought brand new xperia t at least it will get 4.3 confirmed or hopefully 4.4 also
n70shan said:
so people this was one of the reason so i sold my xperia sl yesterday and bought brand new xperia t at least it will get 4.3 confirmed or hopefully 4.4 also
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Xperia T hasn't 4.3 update confirmed yet bro, but it will most probably get it.
Want Android 4.4? Tell that to Qualcomm.
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lee480 said:
Want Android 4.4? Tell that to Qualcomm.
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Stupid Qualcomm they f*ck up our 4.2 and 4.3 for Xperia s,so,Arco s bla bla
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IMO SONY wont give a 4.2 update but if that happens,beers to SONY team.oops,i mean cheers :good: to SONY team.as the present android 4.1 official update is great but with some minor not so noticable bugs :laugh: i dont have any idea of what android 4.4 KITKAT will bring but i bet we will get it from great developers at xda.we will atleast get a AOSP based nightlty beta rom because XPERIA S is a very strong and fast phone though all say LOW BENCHMARKS and SNAPDRAGON S3,but i know its still faster and can handle next android versions without any hiccups.why the heck they decide to stop giving updates even the device is fully capable.x10 mini pro left with android 2.1,but the android 2.3 rom runs much faster and better battery life why some left at 2.3 and some at 4.3 ? i hate this fact

Buying Z1C[Help]

Should I spend my money on Z1 Compact? How good of a phone is it? I am a bit worried because I am not finding enough development in here.
jatinrungta said:
Should I spend my money on Z1 Compact? How good of a phone is it? I am a bit worried because I am not finding enough development in here.
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Yes you should, awesome phone, development will be pumping hard like a big orgy.
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For what it's worth: I had my Z1C for a few weeks until it literally died for no apparent reason. Treated it like a jewel, always in a case, never dropped etc and one day it turned itself off and couldn't get it to turn on again. No combination of buttons, resets, restores (that I couldn't do, as the phone was dead), recharges or else brought it back to life. Had to send it in for repair, and discovered that Sony uses a 3rd party (SBE in the UK) who, after 7 days, notified me that the required components where out of stock and had to be sourced from outside of the UK.
Not impressed with the support, at all, but yea the handset itself is fantastic.. really miss it.
Starlith said:
Yes you should, awesome phone, development will be pumping hard like a big orgy.
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I also hoped so for development but there are not many dev threads :/
Otherwise its fantastic phone
From what I've seen so far, majority of Dev are from the Z1. As most of the Dev ported ROM/ Kernel towards Z1C and are identical. No doubt is a great phone comparing the Specs and Price to other flagship.
thermalboyz said:
From what I've seen so far, majority of Dev are from the Z1. As most of the Dev ported ROM/ Kernel towards Z1C and are identical. No doubt is a great phone comparing the Specs and Price to other flagship.
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does z1 stuff work in this device since it has got some development
jatinrungta said:
does z1 stuff work in this device since it has got some development
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Yes maximum works just needes some patches and porting..
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact (D5503)
jatinrungta said:
does z1 stuff work in this device since it has got some development
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Install the patch available in the dev section and you will be able to use most of the stuff from Z1. it's a great phone except for the vibration (haptic feedback) which is horrible.
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Where's that patch? Is it here on Z1c section? haven't seen it. Is it like a universal patch so that i can use kernel and roms from Z1?
Also u can buy z1, its similar with z1c except display size, resolution and battery size..
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact (D5503)
infinitylook said:
Where's that patch? Is it here on Z1c section? haven't seen it. Is it like a universal patch so that i can use kernel and roms from Z1?
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In the dev section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668416
Yes, you can install a Z1 rom.
If you ain't a fan of big screens then yes N with same hardware, I guess almost if not all Z1 roms could be ported
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thank you. Lets see what I get
jatinrungta said:
thank you. Lets see what I get
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In case you end up buying one
Free advice, don't update to kitkat just yet
Sent from my Z1 compact
Great device, if it works and doesn't just die of hardware failure.
Mine literally died for no reason 1m after I bought it. Shut itself off and never turned on again. Any combination of buttons and charging did nothing to revive it. The Sony Companion Software's repair function on Mac doesn't work as it doesnt support Maverick's version of Java.
So I had to send it to repair, but Sony doesn't operate its own repair centre and relies on a 3rd party here in the UK. The repair centre (SBE Ltd) apparently didn't have the required components in stock. As a result it's now been 2 weeks that my z1c is in repair and no idea when I will get it back. Sony could have sent me a replacement unit instead of keeping me waiting, which would have been nice since my damn z1c was almost brand new, but no.. they'd rather not give a damn, and make sure that this is the last Sony product I ever buy.
Very very very disappointed. Apple would have given me a replacement unit immediately, no questions asked.
darkmystel said:
In case you end up buying one
Free advice, don't update to kitkat just yet
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Is kitkat seriously that laggy?
I played with a Z1 and find it not lagging at all
jatinrungta said:
Is kitkat seriously that laggy?
I played with a Z1 and find it not lagging at all
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It's not laggy, in fact in most aspects it's better, but there are still a few bugs, N the battery life kinda goes down in kitkat , the Ui N camera all gets better though
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Get an unlocked Z1c from Clove (I've bought two phones from them, and had a good experience with a warranty issue with the last one) and root it ASAP. Battery is awesome on 4.4 with SlimKat (and probably others) in my experience. I am sure we'll have a solid kernel soon if you like to OC/UV and the like, but I honestly don't see the need.
My ONLY gripe was my issue with the flash bleed, which turned out to be an issue with how they designed the back cover. Bad Sony! I fixed it by replacing the plastic back with the glass one.
If you are after a dev popular model, look elsewhere, like z1 or z2.
I know I am posting in the wrong forum for such a comment, and might have rocks thrown at me by devs of xda...but the stock rom is, despite bugs that affect all products, sony or not, this one is pretty decent. You don't need root to accomplish certain performance gains that were needed in phones of the past. I cannot understand why anyone would want a different Rom, and in the very limited and ordinary way I use the phone, I cannot see any features I would like to add on that Sony failed to provide. A humble personal opinion.
Take this with a huge fistfull of salt.. that's coming from a guy who thought so till about 2 months ago, where limitations of KK (not sony) forced me to root my device to gain rightful access to the sd card again. I am grateful to those devs who made this possible

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