I haven't picked one of these up yet, so I'm curious. Could someone check the available RAM after a fresh boot and tell me what it is?
I'm interested to see how much of the 3GB Touchwiz (and associated apps) takes and how much we actually have available to us.
7when I clear the ram it's roughly 2.5GB. tthat's after it closes 23 or so active apps.
Thanks. I'm sure a lot of those apps start right back up. I'm more interested in the available ram after a fresh boot because that will be a more accurate picture of what we have to work with.
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fresh boot 1.4GB for my set up.
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fresh boot 1.4GB for my set up.
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Thanks! Wow, that tablet uses over half the ram for the system? I was thinking maybe a gig, but that's crazy.
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I doubt it's all for the system. a lot of that bloatware is probably sucking up a bit too. as well as a few apps that I have running at staert up. 1.4GB is still quite a bit for an android tablet.
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I doubt it's all for the system. a lot of that bloatware is probably sucking up a bit too. as well as a few apps that I have running at staert up. 1.4GB is still quite a bit for an android tablet.
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It is, I guess. My Nexus 10 sits around 500 free and it tends to refresh a lot, so I guess we still get a lot more overhead on this tablet.
Thanks again for checking.
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After I updated my phone to 4.1 i'm only showing 1.56GB of ram in the task manager app. Has anyone else had this problem?
I did notice that I lost a large chunk of free ram... 4.0.4, I used to consistently have about 1 gig free, now I stay around 500-600 megs free
I've noticed this with any 4.1 rom with touchwiz and bloatware.
It's much better using a custom 4.1 TW rom (bacon!!) with some bloatware removed.
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I sent an email to Samsung just now. Let's see what they say.
Anyway, this is def. NOT natural. If you bring up a terminal console and type "free" you will see it state that your phone only has 1.5 gigs of ram.
I'm wondering of project butter is using 500 megs of ram to do the speedup we're seeing...
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My take-away is that they did, in fact, use the extra 512megs for a new application that is part of the enhancement. My guess is butter.
Its most likely just the system using that RAM, like pretty much every android phone on the planet
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Wow. Big difference. I'm seeing the same.
I never thought 2GB would get so low available so quick.
Who cares, really?
I'd rather have my 2Gb completely filled up as it's most likely just cached applications anyway.
If need be, this memory will be released anyway by Android's garbage collector.
On the other hand, history shows us that every new iteration of Android needs more RAM, so that's kinda expected.
My GS1 only has 512Mb which is more than enough if running Android 2.x (Eclair, Froyo & Gingerbread) but rapidly falls short RAM if running ICS.
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Who cares, really?
I'd rather have my 2Gb completely filled up as it's most likely just cached applications anyway.
If need be, this memory will be released anyway by Android's garbage collector.
On the other hand, history shows us that every new iteration of Android needs more RAM, so that's kinda expected.
My GS1 only has 512Mb which is more than enough if running Android 2.x (Eclair, Froyo & Gingerbread) but rapidly falls short RAM if running ICS.
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free memory is waisted memory for some. I disagree when it comes to devices using a battery. Processes use memory and battery life...
I hate to see apps running in background even when I didn't use them since the last reboot. Self running apps grabbing infos about me suck. If Google dont want to stop these behaviors then its time for a new OS.
My next phone ?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3tLxEQEdg&feature=colike
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free memory is waisted memory for some. I disagree when it comes to devices using a battery. Processes use memory and battery life...
I hate to see apps running in background even when I didn't use them since the last reboot. Self running apps grabbing infos about me suck. If Google dont want to stop these behaviors then its time for a new OS.
My next phone ?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3tLxEQEdg&feature=colike
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You got it wrong.
Cached apps in memory do not actually run.
They are just left there so that they can start more quickly the next time you use them.
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free memory is waisted memory for some. I disagree when it comes to devices using a battery. Processes use memory and battery life...
I hate to see apps running in background even when I didn't use them since the last reboot. Self running apps grabbing infos about me suck. If Google dont want to stop these behaviors then its time for a new OS.
My next phone ?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3tLxEQEdg&feature=colike
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RAM has to refresh whether it is used or not. The RAM has no idea if a particular bit is used or not.
The last ICS update also lowered the RAM to 1.59GB. I believe it has to do with how much RAM is assigned to the GPU. It is normal.
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Who cares, really?
I'd rather have my 2Gb completely filled up as it's most likely just cached applications anyway.
If need be, this memory will be released anyway by Android's garbage collector.
On the other hand, history shows us that every new iteration of Android needs more RAM, so that's kinda expected.
My GS1 only has 512Mb which is more than enough if running Android 2.x (Eclair, Froyo & Gingerbread) but rapidly falls short RAM if running ICS.
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I only care because of my past experience: the more apps I load, the more memory gets used, and the slower it runs. I tend to use a log of apps. Memory was a struggle on the ole' Captivate.
I want this phone to perform good for a while.
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I only care because of my past experience: the more apps I load, the more memory gets used, and the slower it runs. I tend to use a log of apps. Memory was a struggle on the ole' Captivate.
I want this phone to perform good for a while.
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well then just close off some apps, I've never had a problem memory on this phone at all yet
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My ram dropped to 1.59 since before Jellybean
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Actually my first s3 when it released had 1.89 of ram but I sold it. This one I bought on black Friday only has 1.59
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I'm curious what the International phones have since they only started with 1g
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If you dont want any back ground processes go to the developer options and limit the number of background processes
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Hi Guys!
I have a quick question. I just flashed the CM11 and was wondering what free space I should have left? I read that Kit Kat is supposed to run well on devices with less ram but it seems like it takes up more then normal. Should I be worried?
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Hi Guys!
I have a quick question. I just flashed the CM11 and was wondering what free space I should have left? I read that Kit Kat is supposed to run well on devices with less ram but it seems like it takes up more then normal. Should I be worried?
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Can't say how much ram you should have. As apps and system processes are loaded into memory, your free ram will sink big time. But, that's how android is supposed to work. Meaning how much free ram should be available is not a question that can really be answered.
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Can someone tell me how much RAM is available to run user apps in the 2GB version?
(referring to official stock non rooted)
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Can someone tell me how much RAM is available to run user apps in the 2GB version?
(referring to official stock non rooted)
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Roughly 600-700
The amount stated is when using stock launcher ?
Is the 2GB version sufficient for average day to day use ? (no gaming or heavy storage consuming apps)
Is there any truth in the rumor I've heard that G3 with 32GB has more issues than the 16GB version ?
Don't get the 2GB G3
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Don't get the 2GB G3
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Why not? I have the 2GB and is working just fine.
How much free RAM you think you will get with the 3GB? I bet you may be surprised...
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Why not? I have the 2GB and is working just fine.
How much free RAM you think you will get with the 3GB? I bet you may be surprised...
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Using Nova Launcher with a few apps open in the background (Facebook, Chrome, etc) I have about 900MB free, when closed I usually hover on 1.2-1.4GB free. I have a program to clear my RAM every half hour, so it doesn't much matter the amount of RAM I have. But yeah. that's how much I have free, I'd presume you'd have around the same using the stock launcher.
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Why not? I have the 2GB and is working just fine.
How much free RAM you think you will get with the 3GB? I bet you may be surprised...
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So can you please provide the amount of free RAM you have when the phone is just turned on ? Are you using stock launcher or other ?
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So can you please provide the amount of free RAM you have when the phone is just turned on ? Are you using stock launcher or other ?
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Sure... I get around 900mb free RAM and I'm using Nova Launcher with latest Cloudy ROM (which is awesome by the way)
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Sure... I get around 900mb free RAM and I'm using Nova Launcher with latest Cloudy ROM (which is awesome by the way)
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Sorry to jump in but I have a 2GB and am running CyanogenMod 12, stock CyanogenMod kernel, have 38 apps installed, have no RAM Manager app and have, running 3 or 4 apps and Nova also, circa 850 MB spare!
I am super happy with its performance and sometimes I think why would I need a 3GB one when this one performs so well.
Mind you that I am no gamer and perhaps if I was I would then consider it but that is not the case with this users pretensions.
Personally, going back to the OP's question, mate if you are no gamer the 2GB is more than enough.
What do you want to do?
Walk around the mall with 1.5GB of free RAM inside your pocket? ?
Enjoy!
Last two responders say there is plenty of spare RAM but both not using stock ROM. I am not planning to change ROMs so would like to know the free RAM amount with stock.
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Last two responders say there is plenty of spare RAM but both not using stock ROM. I am not planning to change ROMs so would like to know the free RAM amount with stock.
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Exactly.
When i wrote my first post i was not talking about any additional tweaks, custom ROMs/Kernels , i was talking about the "out of the box" experience. LG's skin is heavy (as are most OEM skins). You might be able to multitask between 2-3 apps (without reloading).
If you decide to flash an AOSP ROM, say goodbye to camera quality, and welcome to various bugs and instabilities here and there.
Furthermore, Lollipop is memory hungry, and "system apps" fill up to 1GB in a few days of uptime (it happens on many phones, i used to have this issue on my nexus 5 too).
I own a 3GB/32GB G3, after a reboot, free RAM is somewhere at 1.7/1.8GB , after 2 days it's down to 1GB, and system apps are up by that amount. According to a leaked changelog, The next Lollipop update (due late Feb.) should include "better RAM management". Will it help and solve this issue, no one knows, it's only a leak for now and nothing is confirmed until it officially releases.
Would it help to root the stock rom and disable unwanted bloatware apps to reclaim some RAM amount ?
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Would it help to root the stock rom and disable unwanted bloatware apps to reclaim some RAM amount ?
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it would help. Also kicking Google's apps from /system to /data (install from playstore) and greenify some of them should help.
but do you really want to invest in a device where you need all that work done. Also, keep in mind that there is no root method for Lollipop on G3, you have to downgrade to kitkat then flash a custom Lollipop ROM.
No, I'm really not into tweaking the phone and just want stable performance out of the box.
Is the 5.0 stock ROM stable and has no issues at all ?
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No, I'm really not into tweaking the phone and just want stable performance out of the box.
Is the 5.0 stock ROM stable and has no issues at all ?
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Go for the 3GB version, don't settle for less....
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No, I'm really not into tweaking the phone and just want stable performance out of the box.
Is the 5.0 stock ROM stable and has no issues at all ?
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From my experience with my device stock 5.0 is stable and i haven't had any major problems with it. Would like if the RAM management was a bit better though. Battery life is also great.
On a side note, there is no OS that has no issues at all.
I am aware that most stock roms are not perfect, but read many posts where people were saying the G3 is less stable than G2.
That is why I am being careful.
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Last two responders say there is plenty of spare RAM but both not using stock ROM. I am not planning to change ROMs so would like to know the free RAM amount with stock.
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Doubt it, stock rom is full of bloatware, you're looking at a few hundred mb's free
Is all the bloatware active and running in the background all the time ?
It's the same question like:
which is better: 1 camel or 2 camels ?
Of course, it is better to have 2 camels , they just eat more ...
Is that normal? How much free RAM do you guys have?
doesn't look like it, but mine is the same. I believe it is the lollipop memory leak issue...so as usual we just have to wait it out
Sucks that just as we are finally seeing 3 Gig of RAM we end up in the same situation as when we had 2Gig ?
I have not upgraded to to 2015 Flagship Standard yet but ...
I was hoping to START at the beginning of Boot Up with about
1.7 -2 GIGs of free RAM for Tasking etc.
I think " upgrading" to Lollipop on many Devices could create more problems than it solves - right ?
And the supposed Wifi Calling and VoLTE are not going to work
because they are Carrier Specific Software which must come directly from your Service Provider.
Free RAM is UNUSED/WASTED RAM! Understand? The more software/applications that are pushed into RAM the better because it is available to do whatever it needs to do without having to go and search for it and place into RAM! If and when you need more RAM for something new, say like opening another application...then Android will move out of RAM whatever is not being used and replace it with the new software. If your phone had 10GB of RAM it would still look nearly full. This is a GOOD thing. It's all still available for use when needed. Remember that RAM is always the fastest part of your phone. Of course the more RAM you have the more applications you can have open at any one time without any lag/stutter. But for now 3GB of RAM is quite good for a cell phone on Android.
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Is that normal? How much free RAM do you guys have?
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Is that a built-in app showing you that?
DanRyb said:
Is that a built-in app showing you that?
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Yes. it's called Smart Manager.
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Yes. it's called Smart Manager.
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I just found it a few hours ago but thanks for replying LOL. This is my first Samsung that I'm using TouchWiz in years haha.
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Free RAM is UNUSED/WASTED RAM! Understand? The more software/applications that are pushed into RAM the better because it is available to do whatever it needs to do without having to go and search for it and place into RAM! If and when you need more RAM for something new, say like opening another application...then Android will move out of RAM whatever is not being used and replace it with the new software. If your phone had 10GB of RAM it would still look nearly full. This is a GOOD thing. It's all still available for use when needed. Remember that RAM is always the fastest part of your phone. Of course the more RAM you have the more applications you can have open at any one time without any lag/stutter. But for now 3GB of RAM is quite good for a cell phone on Android.
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This right here, folks.
jaseman said:
Free RAM is UNUSED/WASTED RAM! Understand? The more software/applications that are pushed into RAM the better because it is available to do whatever it needs to do without having to go and search for it and place into RAM! If and when you need more RAM for something new, say like opening another application...then Android will move out of RAM whatever is not being used and replace it with the new software. If your phone had 10GB of RAM it would still look nearly full. This is a GOOD thing. It's all still available for use when needed. Remember that RAM is always the fastest part of your phone. Of course the more RAM you have the more applications you can have open at any one time without any lag/stutter. But for now 3GB of RAM is quite good for a cell phone on Android.
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Come on... I have Galaxy S4 now (going for S6 today). The S4 comes with 1.8GB usable memory but when it reaches arount 1.5 GB it starts lagging, and by lagging I mean a lot! The fact is that when the device has less RAM it gets laggy and it works better when it has more free memory.
Anyway the higher memory usage is probably of how Lollipop works - it preloads the entire app in the RAM instead of loading it from the flash. It is meant to speed up loading but it takes more memory and I can argue for the effect.
once there are some custom roms, this "issue" will be addressed.
until then, you just have to deal with it
So I'm noticing my ram is apparently being used at 100% or close to it most of the time. I'm not really seeing many problems up front with this, but what problems shoudl I expect down the road as a result of this?
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So I'm noticing my ram is apparently being used at 100% or close to it most of the time. I'm not really seeing many problems up front with this, but what problems shoudl I expect down the road as a result of this?
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That's fine. We only have 2GB and as the saying goes, unused RAM is wasted RAM. I'm usually 94-95% used over 3 hours and 24 hours.
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That's fine. We only have 2GB and as the saying goes, unused RAM is wasted RAM. I'm usually 94-95% used over 3 hours and 24 hours.
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True. Just want to make sure I'm not missing something important or over thinking a nonexistant problem.