I am looking to purchase and comparing the Samsung N900T and N9005 and would like clarification on the differences between the two devices.
My primary carrier is T-Mobile, but I would also like to make sure that I can use a local SIM when I travel to Europe. I have read numerous posts online and am still a bit confused on the 4G-LTE capabilities and region locking.
Is it possible to flash the N900T with N9005 firmware and vice versa since the hardware is assumed to be essentially the same? Can re-flashing enable T-Mobile 700/1700/2100 LTE operating bands?
If so, does it matter which model I start with?
Thank you,
If you buy the N900T unlocked apparently the region lock is removed as well. There's a region lock remover already out. Negri Electronics is selling it already unlocked though their preorder discounted price is no more. Otherwise get T-Mobile to unlock it after however long they make you wait.
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N900T vs N9005
CalcProgrammer1 said:
If you buy the N900T unlocked apparently the region lock is removed as well. There's a region lock remover already out. Negri Electronics is selling it already unlocked though their preorder discounted price is no more. Otherwise get T-Mobile to unlock it after however long they make you wait.
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Any comment on the capability to enable LTE bands which are not available out of the box (enable 700/1700/2100 LTE) for the N9005?
Are the radio capabilities software based or hardware? If software based, then can you "flash" a N900T w/ N9005 firmware and visa versa?
Thanks again.
Please take this discussion here
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Hi there,
It started with when I bought int. version N7100 from Amazon.com. I live in Canada and use WIND mobile. So I inserted my SIM and it didn't work! I sent Note 2 back to the seller, and get refunded soon. So, basically, I'm sort of noob here, and have a noob question. Sorry, but need your help.
Now, I want to give a try to purchase N7105 or SGH-T889V (from Mobilcity, cuz it is cheaper) version, and use it with my WIND sim card.
1) Will N7105 work with WIND AWS band right away or do I have to root and flash WIND modem for it?
2) Same question as in 1) but for Mobilcity Note 2 (but I guess it will work right away without any software modification. I want just to make sure).
3) After 3-4 months I'm moving to USA (more likely) or Europe (depending my job offer), and going to get sim card from some local carrier. Which model, N7105 or SGH-T889V, covers more network?
4) As far as I understand SGH-T889V fully supports what N7105 supports, but not vice versa, am I right?
If you want to use your Note 2 on Wind then the T889V is the one you want. It's also possible to flash a radio hack on the Bell/Rogers/Telus version to get AWS HSPA. However, the T889V does not have LTE officially.
For travelling, , 7105 will be your best bet in Europe as it will support every carrier there and you will get LTE if the carriers support it. The T889V will be better for the States as it supports AWS HSPA on Tmobile, however still no LTE.
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I saw on the internet people using N7105 with Bell, Telus, and Rogers with full LTE potential. And my question 1) still holds. Is it possible to do that? Even if it is possible, will it be same quality connection/performance as native (T889V) Note2?
But according wikipeadia, T889V supports some LTE bands. Maybe after flashing the modem, as you said, it will be compatible Bell/Rogers/Telus.
Now, I'm coming to conclusion that both of them work with almost all major North American carrier with full potential, while N7105 also is gonna support EU carriers. So, it is sort of N7105 > SGH-T889V, i.e. is N7105 way to go?
I know this is in the FAQ but I am in need of some clarification. I intend to buy an unlocked international Note 3 (Negri, Amazon, etc.) and would like to know which model(s) (N9005/N900W8) will work best if I just swap out SIM cards from a previous T-mobile device to work on T-Mobile's networks.
Sm900 T (T mobiles version) is the only one that will get lte as for the n9000 if you live in a refarmed area you will beable to get 3g. If you dont live in a refarmed area youll only get edge
Yeah. You're probably better off getting the 900t.
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Okay so I went ahead and ordered the unlocked N900T from Negri Electronics and the order is currently being processed but with one major warning. They have warned me about the device possibly being black listed via IMEI on T-mobile's own networks. Is there a legitimate cause for concern here that my device will be blacked out, or should I be fine?
The only reason I could see that a carrier would black list a device is if it is reported stolen or misused/abused on the carrier's network.
That is very interesting for Negri to do that. Is Negri implying they source their phones from a shady source? You're better off buying a 900t from T-Mobile directly and spending ~$3 using chain fires region unlock app to sim unlock your phone.
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Hi I want to buy a Samsung Note 8.0 for which model should I buy. I live in U.S. I know the LTE version here in US don't have phone capabilities. Can I install a custom rom for the one in US, if there is one, can someone point me to a thread. Please help, Thank you
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Hi I want to buy a Samsung Note 8.0 for which model should I buy. I live in U.S. I know the LTE version here in US don't have phone capabilities. Can I install a custom rom for the one in US, if there is one, can someone point me to a thread. Please help, Thank you
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Though I don't live in US, I don't think you could add phone feature by changing the rom.
I think you would have to have the international version that permits calls. I'm not sure if that will work in the states though because of frequencies etc.
Galaxy Note 8.0 Xposed Build N5120XXCMH2 / Baseband N5120XXBMD9 / Kernel CivZ-SphereXtreme-REV on Telstra LTE
If you're looking at the AT&T branded Note 8, SGH-i467, there's a thread in this forum on getting the phone capability enabled. I don't think anyone has been totally successful doing that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430527
If VoIP will sufficiently meet your calling needs, you'll be fine with that model. If you don't want to deal with the idiosyncrasies associated with VoIP, get the international version, GT-N5100. The LTE frequencies won't work on AT&T's or T-Mobile's networks so you'll be at HSPA+ speeds, but it is a true 8" smartphone.
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If you're looking at the AT&T branded Note 8, SGH-i467, there's a thread in this forum on getting the phone capability enabled. I don't think anyone has been totally successful doing that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430527
If VoIP will sufficiently meet your calling needs, you'll be fine with that model. If you don't want to deal with the idiosyncrasies associated with VoIP, get the international version, GT-N5100. The LTE frequencies won't work on AT&T's or T-Mobile's networks so you'll be at HSPA+ speeds, but it is a true 8" smartphone.
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I bought one from amazon and it had calling capability. Should be the same for all of them.
The are different variants of the Note 8. Some have phone capability and some do not. The most common variant sold in the US (in Best Buy and big box stores) is WiFi only. The model sold in AT&T stores has LTE, but the phone functionality has been removed. The N5100, available thro some Amazon vendors, its a true smartphone, but only works on AT&T and T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.
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The are different variants of the Note 8. Some have phone capability and some do not. The most common variant sold in the US (in Best Buy and big box stores) is WiFi only. The model sold in AT&T stores has LTE, but the phone functionality has been removed. The N5100, available thro some Amazon vendors, its a true smartphone, but only works on AT&T and T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.
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I use a note 8 LTE as my phone here in UK and am absolutly loving it....had to change from 3 mobile to O2 as 3 dont allow phone sims in tablets, seems O2 do cos its been working fine for about 3-4 weeks.
Rather than look foolish with a tablet next to my ear I purchased a galaxy gear which is not fully working as I am on stock 4.2.
Got rid of my note 2 and note 10.1 and have just a note 8, best thing I ever did!!!
Hey, I plan to buy my Galaxy so from Samsung rather than my carrier (ATT). I have a couple questions. Will I just be able to add the Sim currently in my Galaxy say or will I need a new one? Also, will I have to take it into the store?
Just put your existing soon card in and away you go. No need for anything else. It's what I did when I got my Note 8 from Samsung.
If you buy it from Samsung, the phone it's unlocked, so you can use any valid SIM (including the one you are currently using now).
Samsung has an unlocked model available on their website along with carrier specific models. I would think the carrier specific models are the same as the phones you would get at a AT&T or Verizon store. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Samsung has an unlocked model available on their website along with carrier specific models. I would think the carrier specific models are the same as the phones you would get at a AT&T or Verizon store. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'd like to know this as I would like an unlocked bootloader but.... I would like the Carrier version for some additional features like VoLTE/VoWifi.
Right now I'm torn between just going to Best Buy (since in the states) or just getting it directly from Samsung.
The carrier versions will have the standard carrier bloat pre-installed.
I can't find the exact band specifications of each of the models... Does anyone know if the hardware/antenna chips will be the same on T-Mobile vs. unlocked from Samsung? I am assuming there are certain bands missing from the unlocked version if you plan on using T-mobile's network, but I can't confirm this....
Best Buy's doing a $100 off if you preorder on Friday just heads up.
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Best Buy's doing a $100 off if you preorder on Friday just heads up.
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And if you have an s8 or other qualifying phone you can get a total of $450 off I believe on Friday from Best Buy.
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I can't find the exact band specifications of each of the models... Does anyone know if the hardware/antenna chips will be the same on T-Mobile vs. unlocked from Samsung? I am assuming there are certain bands missing from the unlocked version if you plan on using T-mobile's network, but I can't confirm this....
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I too had the same questions and this is what I found. I don't know how accurate it is.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
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I too had the same questions and this is what I found. I don't know how accurate it is.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
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It looks like the answer to our question is on this page: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g960-g965-model-number-differences/
The T-Mobile version seems to be missing the following, in comparison to the unlocked US version:
4G FDD LTE B71 (600 mhz) - This is T-Mobile's new spectrum... this seems important to have (just google t-mobile 600mhz)
2G CDMA and 3G CDMA - I don't believe this matters to us
3G TD-SCDMA B34 and B39 (2010 and 1880mhz) - I assume these will be missed if outside LTE coverage?
But in general, the unlocked version seems to support more bands than the Tmo version
So, it seems if one is on the T-Mobile network and plans to stay there, they really should get the T-Mobile version of the phone.... someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'd like to know this as I would like an unlocked bootloader but.... I would like the Carrier version for some additional features like VoLTE/VoWifi.
Right now I'm torn between just going to Best Buy (since in the states) or just getting it directly from Samsung.
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You do know that unlocked isn't meaning unlocked bootloader right? It's meaning unlocked bands
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I'm with AT&T and I'm pretty sure there will be no wifi calling on any phone other than the AT&T version. That's a feature I want. If it doesn't matter to you an unlocked phone may be for you. I don't know for a fact that wifi calling won't work on an unlocked S9 but if it does, it will be the first. I don't want the extra carrier apps but they aren't going to cause me any grief on a beast like this phone. I'd rather have the services the carrier provides if I'm going to use them. If It turns out that wifi calling works on the unlocked S9, I may revise my plan but I doubt that will happen. I'm pretty much done with the rooting/modding stuff so that isn't an issue. Even the master hackers are going with stock phones d/t the features and security.
I thought all Snapdragon processor used devices where u.s. version devices.and that all exynos processor devices where international devices.I want to buy a international device Samsung galaxy s20 plus that I can root and flash different roms and mods on too. Which International Version device would you buy if you wanted to place Round 2 mods onto is there any particular one or just any International device. Because all u.s. versions of the s20 plus cannot be rooted and romed correct. Thanks In advance!!!
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I thought all Snapdragon processor used devices where u.s. version devices.and that all exynos processor devices where international devices.I want to buy a international device Samsung galaxy s20 plus that I can root and flash different roms and mods on too. Which International Version device would you buy if you wanted to place Round 2 mods onto is there any particular one or just any International device. Because all u.s. versions of the s20 plus cannot be rooted and romed correct. Thanks In advance!!!
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There are some international devices with snapdragon sold in korea hongkong tiwan & china not only us and the have unlockable bootloader and can be rooted also
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I thought all Snapdragon processor used devices where u.s. version devices.and that all exynos processor devices where international devices.I want to buy a international device Samsung galaxy s20 plus that I can root and flash different roms and mods on too. Which International Version device would you buy if you wanted to place Round 2 mods onto is there any particular one or just any International device. Because all u.s. versions of the s20 plus cannot be rooted and romed correct. Thanks In advance!!!
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The International Snapdragon variants have a better SoC however being in Denmark you won't get some Carrier Features the Exynos variants offer, that's the trade off.
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The International Snapdragon variants have a better SoC however being in Denmark you won't get some Carrier Features the Exynos variants offer, that's the trade off.
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So what international version of the Samsung s20 plus would you recommend if you lived in the u.s. and your carrier was t-mobile. Thanks In advance!!!
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So what international version of the Samsung s20 plus would you recommend if you lived in the u.s. and your carrier was t-mobile. Thanks In advance!!!
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I have the Hong Kong variant on T-mobile. Advantages - Snapdragon SoC, no carrier bloatware, close to pure android, dual sims, unlocked bootloader, price ($745 on eBay). Disadvantages - Warranty repair would be difficult, no 5G yet or carrier aggregation. Highly recommend, my S8, S9 and S10, all Hong Kong variants, never had any problems whatsoever.
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I have the Hong Kong variant on T-mobile. Advantages - Snapdragon SoC, no carrier bloatware, close to pure android, dual sims, unlocked bootloader, price ($745 on eBay). Disadvantages - Warranty repair would be difficult, no 5G yet or carrier aggregation. Highly recommend, my S8, S9 and S10, all Hong Kong variants, never had any problems whatsoever.
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i have a sprint g988u and connect to tmo 5g network just fine
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i have a sprint g988u and connect to tmo 5g network just fine
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I was referring to the Hong Kong variant, diffierent than your device. I've read some users of the HK device are able to get 5G from US Carriers using SIM 2.
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I was referring to the Hong Kong variant, diffierent than your device. I've read some users of the HK device are able to get 5G from US Carriers using SIM 2.
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dunno.. g988u is a usa model and is a 5g model lol.. and also can be bl unlocked
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dunno.. g988u is a usa model and is a 5g model lol.. and also can be bl unlocked
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You should post a guide on how to unlock the bootloader on the US model. To my knowledge no one has been able to achieve this.
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You should post a guide on how to unlock the bootloader on the US model. To my knowledge no one has been able to achieve this.
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there is no guide.. also not my method.. i cant replicate it anyway since im pretty sure it involves tokens/servers
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I have the Hong Kong variant on T-mobile. Advantages - Snapdragon SoC, no carrier bloatware, close to pure android, dual sims, unlocked bootloader, price ($745 on eBay). Disadvantages - Warranty repair would be difficult, no 5G yet or carrier aggregation. Highly recommend, my S8, S9 and S10, all Hong Kong variants, never had any problems whatsoever.
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So you don't feel the data transfer rate without carrier aggregation shows enough difference to matter?
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So you don't feel the data transfer rate without carrier aggregation shows enough difference to matter?
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Not to me, I typically download large files on my laptop via WiFi then transfer them to my device. I'm a frequent flyer so I watch movies (torrents) which are typically 2GB. Not sure how long that would take to download on my device via T-mobile but it's not significantly faster than WiFi. When mmWave is widely avaliable Carrier Aggregation will be more valuable but right now High-band 5G is comparable to WiFi file transfer speeds. That's a small inconvenience compared to the benefits the device offers.
@varcor did you change the CSC to see if CA works ?
I'm assuming you're on TGY. I'm also in the USA and think changing to BRI might increase ca bands.
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@varcor did you change the CSC to see if CA works ?
I'm assuming you're on TGY. I'm also in the USA and think changing to BRI might increase ca bands.
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No, my CSC is TGY. I live in Mexico but use T-mobile since they offer free calls and data in collaboration with Mexico's largest telcom Telcel. Even when I'm in the US I don't have CA. I haven't gone to T-mobile to ask if they can configure CA but I doubt they can on the SM-G9860 or SM-G9880 regardless of the CSC. I use a laptop with Wifi for large downloads so it's not a priority. I do get Wifi Calling and VoLTE even in Mexico, YMMV depending on your service provider. Also I've read BRI has some issues so I'm not inclined to make the switch. This thread may give you further insight.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/help/sm-g9880-bri-taiwan-vs-tgy-hk-t4090635/page3/amp/
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No, my CSC is TGY. I live in Mexico but use T-mobile since they offer free calls and data in collaboration with Mexico's largest telcom Telcel. Even when I'm in the US I don't have CA. I haven't gone to T-mobile to ask if they can configure CA but I doubt they can on the SM-G9860 or SM-G9880 regardless of the CSC. I use a laptop with Wifi for large downloads so it's not a priority. I do get Wifi Calling and VoLTE even in Mexico, YMMV depending on your service provider. Also I've read BRI has some issues so I'm not inclined to make the switch. This thread may give you further insight.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/help/sm-g9880-bri-taiwan-vs-tgy-hk-t4090635/page3/amp/
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That link is google amped , perhaps you can edit it to make it viewable, thanks.
I was just curious to know if someone had changed their CSC to BRI and if it enabled CA.
I believe the first thing to be gathered is what bands are CA enable on the BRI CSC before even proceeding with anything else.
Also before flashing to attain CA I think one needs to compare tgy and bri CA combos.
Edit. Read that already, mainly non americans discussing attaining 5G on their respective countries.
i unlocked my bootloader yesterday and cannot for the life of me flash anything to my phone. im trying to get lineage on it and no atter what i try to do i recieve an error only official samsung binaries are alloweed to be flashed (recovery) if anyone knows what im doing wrong please assist .
s20+ sprint
knox not tripped
phone boots and informs me that bootloader is unlocked
i havnt done anything yet other then flash the token to unlock .
thanks in advance