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Now that Froyo has been released, I'm sure many of us will try to take advantage of the install to SD option. When doing this, is it necessary to move apps back to the phone to before backing up with TB? When restoring apps, will TB know how to properly handle apps installed to SD at the time of backup?
Also, somewhat OT, but where are apps actually stored on the SD card when moved?
TB doesn't care where your apps are and will even help you move them (IME). As to where they go, that is still a mystery to me. I have looked all over and haven't seen them unless I am missing something which is quite possible.
TB backups (at least for me) are in /sdcard/TitaniumBackup, stored as a properties file and a tar file.
As for SD card apps, I don't have any installed there, but the app has restore preferences that indicate that it can backup and restore apps to internal or SD storage...however, I only see the option to put apps on SD card from TB once they're installed by holding down on them in the list.
Looking for a way to set folders to install to EXTERNAL SD card (Not the actual apps). Not like apps2SD...just the folders the apps create for settings and such.
You can specify what location/folder to store pictures taken with the camara too, be it internal or external SD.
This is a setting in the camara app...but most apps dont provide an option like this.
Example:>
We have System, Internal, and if you install External micro SD.
You install Titanium Backup, or other apps that can back up stuff and their own settings, i.e. backup GO launcher settings. When you make your Titanium Backup(s) it creates a folder on INTERNAL storage. Now in the event that something (un-thinkable ) happens to your phone like dropping in water or ran over by MACK truck etc...(you get the point) you can't get it to power on you wont be able to get to any of your files on internal SD. Hopefully your External micro SD would survive and you could take it out, in one of the above examples.
So...that's why I ask if this can be done to bypass the INTERNAL SD in a way. I would actually use the internal for music and movies and put files that I want to make sure stay safe on the EXTERNAL SD. Most of us transfer mp3's and movies etc...from computer so we have copies.
Yeah one could just backup the INTERNAL SD from time to time. But we all know how sometimes this is overlooked.
Not sure if it's something about the way Samsung partitoned the storage or in EEPROM settings or something. On cyanogen mod roms though it had a setting that allowed for this. Phones with less internal storage like HD2 stored the apps on internal and their created folders to external card if one is installed, makes me lean towards the sofware.
P.S. if just move those folders to the External SD the apps dont look their for them.
Thanks for all feedback!
the 2 way i'm familiar with
CM7, has a build in option to do that
you could probably download CM7 source code and dissect that
Link2SD, can do exactly what you want, which is why i always use it to install my apps directly to my External SD card
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the 2 way i'm familiar with
CM7, has a build in option to do that
you could probably download CM7 source code and dissect that
Link2SD, can do exactly what you want, which is why i always use it to install my apps directly to my External SD card
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I wish I could DEV but um more of a tester ! I downloaded some kitchens before but just couldn't get anything going so gave up. Guess I know my place. HAHA
Link2SD sounds like it may work I have to try it. It gives plenty of options!
Thanks
Well on titanium backup you can change itnto backup to the sd instead, just click menu> preferences> backup folder location. At first its set to mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup, you got to press back and select external sd card and titaniumbackup, or if your sd card already has a titanium folder, just select "detect" and it will find the folder on the ext sdcard
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Well on titanium backup you can change itnto backup to the sd instead, just click menu> preferences> backup folder location. At first its set to mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup, you got to press back and select external sd card and titaniumbackup, or if your sd card already has a titanium folder, just select "detect" and it will find the folder on the ext sdcard
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Wow thanks...I knew you could change the location, but that's new to me the DETECT feature that's cool.
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Yeah my point...Getting them to the SD is no problem its the apps wont look their unless they have the option to change default location like above mentioned titanium settings.
Side note: seen the post from Cyanogenmod about CM7 being "in progress" the option is there to set default under applications so all shall be fine soon for this anyway.
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Were you talking about my post? If so then all the apps do work properly, its just moving the backups you make on titanium to the sd card, not the app itself
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i'm not talking about backups, i'm talking about Apps that are moved forcefully to run from SD, you can do that using TI
but some Apps behaves erratically after that, only SD compatible Apps are unaffected
Hello all. Thanks in advance for any help. I attempted some searches before posting this but didn't come up with much.
I've been using CM7 for quite some time and I quite like it. However, I've started to get some random resets, force closes, and a few other issues. I also feel like I have a lot of unused garbage saved on my memory card and that the phone is generally bogged down and slower than it used to be. Long story short, I'd like to start from scratch, including formatting my 32GB SD card.
As I said, I'm currently on CM7. I'm looking to essentially do a total factory reset and format my SD card. I may go back to Sense until a stable ICS ROM is ready. But I may also go back to CM7. Regardless, my main concern is all these apps I have that were moved to my SD card.
How do I go about saving all of my data while still starting clean? I was thinking I'd back up all app data with MyBackup Pro and save that file on my computer, and then format the SD card. After wiping, flashing a ROM, etc., I'd download MyBackup Pro and upload the data backup back to my phone. Should I also save the .apk files and use them to restore the apps? Would there be any functional advantage in redownloading all the apps individually to ensure a totally clean start? I'm thinking about going the "redownload" route just to force myself to only reinstall the apps I really want/use. If I do that, would restoring data through a batch restore in MyBackup Pro for apps that are no longer installed create any kind of conflict?
If I do save the .apks, when I restore those won't it fill up my internal memory quickly because those apps are not being moved to the SD card automatically? Maybe that's another advantage of downloading each app individually. It would allow me to manually move each app to the SD card so as to keep the used internal memory to a minimum.
I know that was long-winded. Thanks in advance for any advice.
Josh
Get Titanium Backup, backup all your apps to the sd card. They should all be in the Titanium folder on the card, so if you want to format the card too, be sure to copy that to a computer first.
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Get Titanium Backup, backup all your apps to the sd card. They should all be in the Titanium folder on the card, so if you want to format the card too, be sure to copy that to a computer first.
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After formatting copy the titanium backup folder back to your SD card, pop back in phone,reinstall TB,restore apps.
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And in order to wipe the phone, format/wipe everything you can in your recovery before you reflash CM7 and your Kernel. Make sure you don't wipe the titanium backup on your SD card on accident.
Thanks guys.
So Will Ti Backup put all the apps back to the SD card? I tried this once before with MyBackup Pro and my internal memory filled up because it failed to move to the SD Card automatically.
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Thanks guys.
So Will Ti Backup put all the apps back to the SD card? I tried this once before with MyBackup Pro and my internal memory filled up because it failed to move to the SD Card automatically.
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Depends, if you have dta2sd flashed before restoring then yes, if not you restore apps then move them to sdcard.
Here's the dta2sd thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938
Flash rom,then gapps if applicable, then kernel if applicable, then dta2sd, Reboot ,download TB, restore apps.
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Thanks guys.
So Will Ti Backup put all the apps back to the SD card? I tried this once before with MyBackup Pro and my internal memory filled up because it failed to move to the SD Card automatically.
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Yes, if you set it to do so. In preferences (under restoration settings) there's the option "restore backups to...". You can choose all internal, all external, default (some apps automatically install to SD, most don't), or you can restore each backup to wherever it was when you backed it up.
Having all of your apps (or even a lot of them) stored on the SD card could be causing your lag. Internal memory always beats an SD card when it comes to read/write speeds. There's no need to have 200 mb free on internal storage, it's just wasted space. I don't know how much you actually have free, that was just an example. Definitely keep your important apps and apps that are heavy on resources on internal, it'll keep some of the lag at bay.
After a full wipe, I always only restore the absolutely necessary apps, even though I restore them from TB. If I ever need an app that I didn't initially restore then I'll restore it. It's like having a brand new phone when you do it that way.
If you decide to use TB, you'll need to move the TB preferences file back to your SD card after formatting... or you can just set it up again. The preferences file is on your SD in data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup. Copy the entire folder back to your SD if you don't want to set it up again.
Though it's been covered, I'll do a quick run down.
Do a nandroid backup + any other backup you want.
Copy the contents of your SD card to your computer.
Format your SD card.
Move the files that you need back to your SD card. Rom, kernel, TB folder & preferences folder, nandroid, whatever you want
Assuming you're using Amon Ra, wipe boot, system, data, .android_secure, SD-ext, cache, and dalvik. Since you're starting fresh, I'd wipe them one or two more times.
Flash rom and whatever other files you need.
Restore what you want to restore.
To help with lag, try increasing your VM heap size. You can do so with VM Heap Tool or Rom Toolbox. It'll help more than you'd think.
You can also try the V6 Supercharger script.
Good luck!
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Yeah. I know I have way too much stuff on my phone. I have a ton of apps, mainly games. Damn you Amazon free app of the day! I usually roll with about 100MB or so of free internal memory.
So that being said, would you move the Dalvik-Cache to the SD? I have a 32GB Sandisk Class 4 SD card.
And it really seems you guys steer clear of MyBackUp Pro, huh? I've found it much easier to use than Ti Bu.
Thanks again for the advice.
I'm upgrading my SD card to a 16Gs one from my old 8Gs. Is there anyway I can get all the apps back and working if I move EVERYTHING exactly as it is to the new card? Or is Titanium Backup the only way? And IF Titanium Backup is the only way, I guess there's no use of moving the app folders as Titanium Backup does backup all the app settings and data? Right?
And also, do I need to partition my SD? Because all my apps seem to run fine on SD. Does partitioning make it faster?
Thanks! \m/
Just move it all. It'll be like you never changed SD cards.
You don't need to use Titanium Backup but to answer your question, yes it saves data too.
Partition your SD if you're gonna use Link2SD or A2SD. Apps in your partition can still be used even if you have connected your phone to pc via usb. I put all widgets on my partition so I can still use them even when it's not on my internal memory. No difference in speed of running apps but apps load faster at boot because you don't have to wait for media scanning to start/finish. And more internal memory too.
So 512MB of partition becomes the internal memory? And I do use Link2SD but it moves the apps to the external memory without the partition on my 8GB card. And the apps run just fine. So why do i need the partition for?
Confused.
Copy everythng frm your current card to pc... Isert new card... Remove it n copy back everythng in new card.... Datx it
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Because when you move apps to SD not all files are moved, some of them are still taking space in your internal memory. When an app is linked all of it is moved.
And widgets don't work when you move them to SD so they're stuck in your internal memory taking up space. When it's in your partition it isn't, and widgets still work.
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I use link2SD. So i guess everything is moved to the external. The widgets dont work though. So I guess partitioning is only to move widgets to SD so and apps stored in the partition load up on boot without requiring the media scan. Correct? Are there any other uses?
Even if you moved apps to SD with link2sd unless it's linked all it moves is the apk file. If it's linked dex, lib and apk files are moved.
Read this thread for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
Ive done the upgrade and the apps are working. But my back, menu and lock keys aren't working. What could've gone wrong? :/
Never encountered that before. Did you move any system apps?
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Nope. Anyway, I've installed Hybrid 2.1 now. Keys are back to normal. Thanks for all your help. And by the way, I've to go the Titanium way because I had to factory reset my phone. And I have the Nandroid backup too. So if I reinstall from my Nandroid backup, will the key problem come back again? Because that was taken when I had the problem.
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Nope. Anyway, I've installed Hybrid 2.1 now. Keys are back to normal. Thanks for all your help. And by the way, I've to go the Titanium way because I had to factory reset my phone. And I have the Nandroid backup too. So if I reinstall from my Nandroid backup, will the key problem come back again? Because that was taken when I had the problem.
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May be yeah.... Bcoz nandroid backup restores d exact state ua phone was in wen yu took backup...
Dont be too shy.. Jus hit thanks
Turns out I'd messed up with the qwerty.kl system file.
Thanks for the help.
I tried something tonight and I think discovered a great way to regain internal storage. I had about 1gb left internally and I couldn't figure our what was taking up so much data because it didnt seem like even my largest apps added up to what I was using. The steps reclaimed 7.5gb of space. Thats a lot of "unknown" data if you ask me.
WARNING: THIS WILL ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR INTERNAL STORAGE. Make sure photos, music, downloads, etc. are backed up elsewhere first. (I.e. I had to go into this knowing I would lose all of my Spotify music.)
1) Make a titanium backup of everything just in case something goes wrong with step 2.
2) Reboot into recovery and make a nandroid backup that you SAVE TO EXTERNAL SD Card.
3) Wipe data. I know on TWRP it will show a red triangle and remind you you don't really have to do this. Go forth boldly knowing you have a nandroid.
4) restore your nandroid.
5) reboot and see how much more internal data you have now (share here if it worked.
If anyone smarter than me at android (who are many) and can offer additional input on this, please feel obliged. I can honestly say this worked for me and my phone works just perfectly (and looks thinner doing it )
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I also apologize if this is the oldest trick in the book and I have only just discovered it. But, I know I'm no the only one still figuring out android.
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I think that wipe removes everything from your internal SD card.
And I could be wrong, but I don't think restoring a nandroid will restore EVERYTHING that was on your SD card. Like pictures, music, etc.
So I'd probably suggest backing up the entire SD card contents as well.
Or another option is to use SD Maid to wipe all your old, unused cache/etc. It's safer and won't remove anything you would have wanted to keep.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...en.sdm&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
Here is the "Pro" version unlocker. I bought it and like it a lot for cleaning up ROM's of old junk.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImV1LnRoZWRhcmtlbi5zZG0udW5sb2NrZXIiXQ..
Dumb question: you need to save your nandroid to your EXTERNAL SD card for this to work right? Otherwise it will wipe your nandroid too?
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Dumb question: you need to save your nandroid to your EXTERNAL SD card for this to work right? Otherwise it will wipe your nandroid too?
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Most definitely. I'll add that to original post.
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CZ Eddie said:
I think that wipe removes everything from your internal SD card.
And I could be wrong, but I don't think restoring a nandroid will restore EVERYTHING that was on your SD card. Like pictures, music, etc.
So I'd probably suggest backing up the entire SD card contents as well.
Or another option is to use SD Maid to wipe all your old, unused cache/etc. It's safer and won't remove anything you would have wanted to keep.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...en.sdm&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
Here is the "Pro" version unlocker. I bought it and like it a lot for cleaning up ROM's of old junk.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImV1LnRoZWRhcmtlbi5zZG0udW5sb2NrZXIiXQ..
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I've used SD Maid (Pro) and it does give some "relief" to storage. However, I've still not achieved nearly the results I have with this method. Also, you have to select each cleaning method one at a time and it can take a while to process results. It's definitely a great option for folks afraid to take this plunge
Thank you for pointing out about the pics and storage. I'll add a warning to rhe OP. I keep all that stuff on my external card (as most probably do), so I didn't think about it. The Downloads folder is something people might want to back up as well.
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natefish said:
I tried something tonight and I think discovered a great way to regain internal storage. I had about 1gb left internally and I couldn't figure our what was taking up so much data because it didnt seem like even my largest apps added up to what I was using. The steps reclaimed 7.5gb of space. Thats a lot of "unknown" data if you ask me.
WARNING: THIS WILL ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR INTERNAL STORAGE. Make sure photos, music, downloads, etc. are backed up elsewhere first. (I.e. I had to go into this knowing I would lose all of my Spotify music.)
1) Make a titanium backup of everything just in case something goes wrong with step 2.
2) Reboot into recovery and make a nandroid backup that you SAVE TO EXTERNAL SD Card.
3) Wipe data. I know on TWRP it will show a red triangle and remind you you don't really have to do this. Go forth boldly knowing you have a nandroid.
4) restore your nandroid.
5) reboot and see how much more internal data you have now (share here if it worked.
If anyone smarter than me at android (who are many) and can offer additional input on this, please feel obliged. I can honestly say this worked for me and my phone works just perfectly (and looks thinner doing it )
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So just so you know, what you have done here is delete all of your data. Titanium backup only backs up the actual APK and installer data. Any larger games like ones from gameloft and allot of others will now need to download their resources again so once you play those games the space will be taken up again.
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So just so you know, what you have done here is delete all of your data. Titanium backup only backs up the actual APK and installer data. Any larger games like ones from gameloft and allot of others will now need to download their resources again so once you play those games the space will be taken up again.
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That's a valid point, to an extent. I did not have any games like that installed when I did this and went from 1gb free to 8.5. I gave up playing games like that on my phone because 1) I have an iPad and 2) 16gb is not enough room for that stuff. There is an app (think it's called GL to SD) that will put the extra data those games download onto your external sd card. The biggest thing I lost is Spotify, but I don't mind resyncing that app if it means I just made a heck of a lot more room for more music.
I'm not a developer and I'm not an expert at Android by any means. I do know, however, that my phone runs perfectly fine after this experiment. I think all OS's do this memory cluttering to an extent. I know Windows does and I remember my iPhone doing it as well. I used to restore once in a while just for this reason. So, I don't pretend to know all the reasons, but I can speak from multiple experiences.
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So just so you know, what you have done here is delete all of your data. Titanium backup only backs up the actual APK and installer data. Any larger games like ones from gameloft and allot of others will now need to download their resources again so once you play those games the space will be taken up again.
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The paid version of Titanium is very powerful. There are settings you can adjust. An odd game I enjoy is paradise Island. I have moved it from an HD2 to a pos gb G2x and on to the GS3. You need a large sdsc card.
Just wanted to confirm that I had the same issue and used a similar process to regain my internal storage. In my case, I had deleted a large amount of files (~7gb's) and never gained the space back in available internal storage.. So I went into recovery (I'm using TWRP) and wiped internal storage, system, data, cache.. Then just installed a fresh rom (stored on my ext sd), bingo, everything seems to be perfect again.
+1 for titanium pro, this helps me keep my storage in check
Or, you download Disk Usage from the app store, run it and delete the largest folders which are typically TWRP or CWM backups....thus saving all of your other data.
And everyone that does this will gain back all of their storage, because they will be completely wiping their internal storage.
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I think I figured out one of the problems
Facebook and google both "sync" their galleries with my phone. thus putting upto 9 gigs of pictures onto my internal storage, without anyway of removing them (so it seems???) I can't disable them in the gallery, and I can't find their physical existence in "my files"
Is there anyway to remove them if they've accidentally synced??
although currently it's too late as I just did a wipe to my phone, deselecting those options I figured I would pose the question and hopefully give someone some food for thought.
EDIT: I also assume this is the same with any other account based app that syncs large file directories. (maybe twitter?)