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hello everyone today i took time and "toasted" part1&2 my EVO and at the part to restore my backup it said none was there. so i checked the sd and it wasnt even a nandroid folder there. i wonder if this is good or bad or did i really need to flash that restore back. any advice or consulting would be appreciated thanks.

riassan said:
hello everyone today i took time and "toasted" part1&2 my EVO and at the part to restore my backup it said none was there. so i checked the sd and it wasnt even a nandroid folder there. i wonder if this is good or bad or did i really need to flash that restore back. any advice or consulting would be appreciated thanks.
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As long as everything went well, you are fine. Just flash your custom rom of choice, I used Flipz.
If you need to revert to stock you can flash a rooted stock ROM from the wiki or you can just RUU if you want to undo the root.

the ruu from the original toast post for rooting? if i did that would it be the same way as the first part of the guide or second. basically so i could start over from a new phone basically. or can u suggest another route to get it back to fresh out the box? any input is appreciated. thanks

riassan said:
the ruu from the original toast post for rooting? if i did that would it be the same way as the first part of the guide or second. basically so i could start over from a new phone basically. or can u suggest another route to get it back to fresh out the box? any input is appreciated. thanks
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No, flash any custom ROM from recovery or pick one of the "stock with root" ROMs. You should try out the Flipz or Damage ROM in my opinion.
To get to recovery from your console type
Code:
adb reboot recovery
Otherwise, make sure you don't have any of the auto flashing image files on the root of your sdcard, then turn off the phone, turn on the phone while holding power down, wait a sec, arrow down to recovery, in recovery wipe data and davik, then flash from .zip, select the ROM .zip you download and let it run.
All custom ROMs are located here >> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC Evo ROMs
As long as you are rooted and can boot your phone you could install ROM Manager from Market. The free version will allow you to download the Flipz or Damage ROM, then it will give you the option of installing for you. Be sure to select to wipe before the install.
You will be up and running a brand spanking new custom ROM after ROM Manager has its way with your phone.

sounds good yeah just getting use to this device, coming from a nexus

[Q] question about unlocking/flashing

I have looked on the forums but i haven't found a clear answer to this. If someone wants to give me a link to whatever post explains it, please do, since i'm sure i'm asking something that's already been answered somewhere.
I used the unrevoked method to root the phone:
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
Do i need to do something beyond that in order to load on a custom rom?
I used the clockworkmod to make a backup of the phone. If i load up a custom rom and decide i don't like it, will the clockworkmod remain on the phone or will the custom rom possibly replace it? If so, how do i restore the backup?
And lastly - how do i actually go about installing another rom? I wanted to try the Fresh rom. I looked at the thread on here for it but i didn't see any directions as to how to go about actually installing it.

Anyone? I'm sure this has been answered before - if someone can just give me the link to the thread i'll go read it. I just haven't had any luck finding the answer on my own.

once you have done unrevoked you should be good to flash roms youc an verify this by looking in the bootloader to see if it shows S off at the top.
To flash a rom first download what ever rom you want and place it on your sd card. boot to recovery and wipe dalvik, data and cache. then select install zip from sd. navigate to the rom and select it and you should flash the new rom. go back and select reboot phone. it will boot up and will take longer then it normally does while it does its magic and you should then boot to the new rom.
Clockwork will not be changed by the rom so no worries there and you can easily restore it by going to the same option you did to make the back up you should see restore. select the back upa nd poof your on your way.

Thanks a lot for the info omega. It does indeed show S-OFF at the top of the boot loader screen.
So just to be clear:
i go into the boot menu, go into recovery, select
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
advanced - wipe dalvik
and then do install zip from sdcard (after i've uploaded the rom zip file)
oh and one last question - if i want to restore it to what i have now, do i just use clockwork to restore the backup i made? or do i have to flash the original rom on there first?
Thanks again for the info

I use rom manager on market, no issues other than the fresh rom link gives an error, its updated often for other roms
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NewZJ said:
I use rom manager on market, no issues other than the fresh rom link gives an error, its updated often for other roms
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i saw a few people mention that but i also saw a few people mention having problems with it, so i thought it best/safer if i did it myself. Or at least i should know how to do it myself in case using something like rom manager doesn't work.

for the manual way you are spot on with the instructions, to restore you won't need to wipe, just nandroid> restore
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ok cool, thanks for the help

Root guide and rom manager?

Is there a basic guide for rooting the epic?
I've rooted my droid a while ago, and loved the rom manager...
is there rom manager support?

Yea there is man. Go to the development thread and one of the stickies is for the wiki development page. That will have the basics and link you to the needed pages with directions. The rom manager we use on epic is clockwork recovery rom manager. Its simple to use and easy to install. Read up though first.
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Just look at my post. Works perfect
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If you go to the general forum, which is where you posted this, and click on:
Samsung Epic 4G Wiki - CLICK HERE AND USE THIS BEFORE POSTING
Its in there.

problem backing up my current ROM
everytime I use ROM Manager to backup my current ROM it goes to Recovery and then when I reboot the phone nothing shows up my Manage and Restore backups in ROM Manager.
Any thoughts?
Bj

Use backup and restore within cwm, not rom manager.

But you should be able to do this from ROM manager, right?

and what is cwm, i'm new at all this

Rom manager sucks for the epic. You need to use a custom kernel to use rom manager. It won't flash cwm for you on stock kernel.

Bj do you have cwm installed? Clockwork mod is a custom recovery mod. You use to NAND backup, flash, partition, clear battery stats and mire. You can only install it from a pc.

Maybe I'm slow
Maybe I'm slow here.... walk me through this.
I rooted my phone.
I have ROM Manager, which does include cwm. I purchased the paid app for ROM manager, but nothing seems to work, when i try to back up my phone boots to recovery and nothing is saved. when I search for new roms none show up.
I'm using a mac at home, but i rooted my phone on my work pc.
Please help me be able to install custom roms (froyo). please define terms and provide links if possible.
Bj

You rooted your phone good but rom manager will not flash clockwork for you. It says it dies but it won't. The only way to get cwm is to run the one click root plus clockwork. If yo turn your phone off and hold power, camera, and volume down what does the text look like. If you see blue writing and like 4 options that is the stock recovery. If it's green with a good bit of options that is what you want for flashing roms. But the new version of cwm3 is out and that is orange writing. For flashing all you do is put the rom on the root of the sd card, boot into cwm, wipe cache, data, and dalvik three times each. Then go to install zip from sd card, choose zip, and scroll till you find the rom on the sd card and hit the camera button to flash it.

the_bj said:
Maybe I'm slow here.... walk me through this.
I rooted my phone.
I have ROM Manager, which does include cwm. I purchased the paid app for ROM manager, but nothing seems to work, when i try to back up my phone boots to recovery and nothing is saved. when I search for new roms none show up.
I'm using a mac at home, but i rooted my phone on my work pc.
Please help me be able to install custom roms (froyo). please define terms and provide links if possible.
Bj
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musclehead84 said:
You rooted your phone good but rom manager will not flash clockwork for you. It says it dies but it won't. The only way to get cwm is to run the one click root plus clockwork. If yo turn your phone off and hold power, camera, and volume down what does the text look like. If you see blue writing and like 4 options that is the stock recovery. If it's green with a good bit of options that is what you want for flashing roms. But the new version of cwm3 is out and that is orange writing. For flashing all you do is put the rom on the root of the sd card, boot into cwm, wipe cache, data, and dalvik three times each. Then go to install zip from sd card, choose zip, and scroll till you find the rom on the sd card and hit the camera button to flash it.
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Basically, do what he said. But, to run most of the Froyo ROMS, you need a DK-28 modem. Now, I'm not the one to provide the information to what that is, but all I know if that you need it.
Directions taken from BThomas22x (the maker of VIPEROM which is what I use):
As for use of Odin, It's actually a lot easier than it seems. I'll give you a quick runthrough.
1. Download and extract Odin, as well as the Modem and PIT files. (You DO NOT flash the ROM through Odin, The ROM is flashed through Clockwork.)
2. Open Odin. At this point, you have to put your phone in download mode. To do so, simply hold the number 1 on the keyboard, and the power button at the same time. Once in download mode, plug the USB cable into the phone. Only plug the phone in AFTER Odin is up and running or Odin won't pick up the phone.
3. Navigate to where you downloaded the modem and pit files and place the PIT file where it says "PIT" and the modem.bin file where it says "phone".
4. On the left side there is an options box. Make sure that "reboot" is the ONLY thing that's checked.
5. Now you're ready to flash the new modem. (Remember, the modem does NOT need to be downloaded, it's just a bonus feature) Hit start and allow it to run through it's process. When finished, the block above the port that your USB is showing will turn either green or red for pass or fail. At this point I haven't heard of anyone failing.
When Odin is done doing it's thing, it will automatically reboot the phone for you. Then you're setup with the new modem!
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Head over to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864445 if you need more help/the download links don't work.
Now, that's the DK-28 modem. YOU NOW MUST USE ROMS WITH THE DK-28 MODEM! I'm pretty sure most of the 2.2 (Froyo) ROMs use DK-28, but someone might want to double check me. It's good to learn how to use Odin anyway since it's your way out if you brick your phone.
I think I was going to include something else, but I'm too tired to remember... lol. Just send me a PM if you need any more help and I'll get back to you later tomorrow or just keep posting here.

Odin gave me a pass.
Now where do I go to get my ROM, can I still use ROM manager or should I go another route?
THanks!

the_bj said:
Odin gave me a pass.
Now where do I go to get my ROM, can I still use ROM manager or should I go another route?
THanks!
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And also what is the best way to back up my current ROM now?

Forget ROM manager.
Get your roms from the dev forum.
Put them on your sdcard where you can find them.
Flash them with clockwork.
The best way to back up your current rom is to select "backup" from within clockworkmod. It will not, however, backup your kernel. The easiest way to restore a backup is to reflash the original rom, then advanced restore->restore data in cwm.
The only way to get cwm is to run the one click root plus clockwork.
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That isn't the only way, but it is definitely the easiest if you aren't comfortable fiddling around with a command line on your phone.

DiGi760 said:
Forget ROM manager.
Get your roms from the dev forum.
Put them on your sdcard where you can find them.
Flash them with clockwork.
The best way to back up your current rom is to select "backup" from within clockworkmod. It will not, however, backup your kernel. The easiest way to restore a backup is to reflash the original rom, then advanced restore->restore data in cwm.
That isn't the only way, but it is definitely the easiest if you aren't comfortable fiddling around with a command line on your phone.
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If i've already rooted can I still use one click root plus CWM and do you have a link for where I can get it?

Yes the one click will still work. It will check if you have root and skip the exploit when it isn't needed. It will then proceed to install busybox, the reidirector, and clockworkmod.
You can find the one-click version 2.5.5 in the dev forum. It is one of the stickies at the top of that forum.

DiGi760 said:
Forget ROM manager.
The best way to back up your current rom is to select "backup" from within clockworkmod. It will not, however, backup your kernel. The easiest way to restore a backup is to reflash the original rom, then advanced restore->restore data in cwm.
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Wow. So this is why my data restores never work...? lol I always get f/cs after I restore something. Thanks for this!

[Q] I know you guys get sick of helping noob but I just rooted and need help!

I have been wanting to root and try a custom rom but I was scared of brick. Anyway I finally rooted with Unrevoked 3.3 which installed Clockwork recovery also and after that I installed rom manager. When I went to do a backup of current rom it said I need to install Clockwork recovery first but its there already. I know there is guides everywhere but thats the problem not sure which to use to learn what to do before I try flashing new rom. What about kernel I really don't understand where to go from here. I am rooted and Clockwork recovery flashed but don't know where to go from here. I am not a idiot just a little guidance please! I really want learn process of installing new and restoring old roms with my Evo. How do I know what other updates need to done before using a certain rom like kernel and radio? Thanks Alot To Anyone That Can Help A Fellow Android Lover!

You try reflashing clockwork recovery?
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No I just cheked to see if I could boot to recovery with vol/power buttons and seems fine Clockwork Recovery is there. So I should just let Rom Manager try to install Clockwork Recovery again? What would be my steps to installing new rom after I get rom manager to backup current rom? Thanks Alot!

Well first backup your rom and wimax keys and then go to the xda android development section and download a rom, clear cache /dalvik/ and I think its system restore something like that..I don't use cwr
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savannahmick said:
No I just cheked to see if I could boot to recovery with vol/power buttons and seems fine Clockwork Recovery is there. So I should just let Rom Manager try to install Clockwork Recovery again? What would be my steps to installing new rom after I get rom manager to backup current rom? Thanks Alot!
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Just dl rom go to rom manager
I think its install from memory card and rom manager takes care of the rest....you can also dl roms from this forum on ur phone it makes it easier
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First of all, if you're certain that your recovery is installed, then you need to decide what rom and what type of rom you want to install? For instance, do you want a Sense based rom (the HTC overlay that your EVO came with) or an AOSP rom (Pure Android like on the Nexus)? For a sense based rom, I suggest Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS-5. You can see photos of it as well as download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471 and for an AOSP rom, I suggest Salvage-Mod 1.2.1. It can be downloaded from here: http://www.salvage-mod.com/node/4. Make sure you download the Google Applications from the same page. Whichever you decide to flash or any others, put them on your SD card. Now shutdown your device. Simultaneously press the DOWN volume button and the power button until your device starts. There will be a short pause and then a few lines of text will scroll across the screen. Afterwards, you will see a set of options. One of the options will be "recovery". By the way, look at the top of the screen and make sure it displays "S-OFF". If it displays "S-ON", you are not rooted. Anyway, select recovery. Your phone will vibrate and display a white EVO screen and then boot into recovery. Your recovery should be ClockworkMod. Go into the backup menu and select nandroid backup to make a backup of your current setup. You can always restore your device to the way it was if you don't like your new roms, mods, themes and kernels. After you've made your backup, go to the wipe menu and wipe everything except the SD card. After that, go to the flash zip menu and flash the rom you want to try. After it's finished, it should prompt you to reboot. Do so and be patient. You will appear to hang at a couple of places. Be patient. Let it finish. Be patient. Do not pull the battery. Be patient. After some time, you will see your rom's splash screen and then your new homescreen. If it is a sense based rom, go to menu-settings-system updates and select update profile after you've signed in with your Google credentials. Enjoy your new rom.
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dougjamal said:
First of all, if you're certain that your recovery is installed, then you need to decide what rom and what type of rom you want to install? For instance, do you want a Sense based rom (the HTC overlay that your EVO came with) or an AOSP rom (Pure Android like on the Nexus)? For a sense based rom, I suggest Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS-5. You can see photos of it as well as download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471 and for an AOSP rom, I suggest Salvage-Mod 1.2.1. It can be downloaded from here: http://www.salvage-mod.com/node/4. Make sure you download the Google Applications from the same page. Whichever you decide to flash or any others, put them on your SD card. Now shutdown your device. Simultaneously press the DOWN volume button and the power button until your device starts. There will be a short pause and then a few lines of text will scroll across the screen. Afterwards, you will see a set of options. One of the options will be "recovery". By the way, look at the top of the screen and make sure it displays "S-OFF". If it displays "S-ON", you are not rooted. Anyway, select recovery. Your phone will vibrate and display a white EVO screen and then boot into recovery. Your recovery should be ClockworkMod. Go into the backup menu and select nandroid backup to make a backup of your current setup. You can always restore your device to the way it was if you don't like your new roms, mods, themes and kernels. After you've made your backup, go to the wipe menu and wipe everything except the SD card. After that, go to the flash zip menu and flash the rom you want to try. After it's finished, it should ask you to reboot. Do so and be patient. You will appear to hang at a couple of places. Be patient. Let it finish. Be patient. Do not pull the battery. Be patient. After some time, you will see your rom's splash screen and then your new homescreen. If it is a sense based rom, go to menu-settings-system updates and select update profile after you've signed in with your Google credentials. Enjoy your new rom.
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Yeah that's what I meant....I suck at instructions lol
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One more thing I just let Rom Manager install recovery and after that I did backup. The next step would be to dl rom and place it in sd card right? Do I need to rename file or update kernel or radio and where do I put the new rom for manager to find? Also I didn't use Unrevoked forever just 3.3 will I need to run the forever app also? I know what a noob! Man I really Thank You for helping! I am dying to try some new roms Froyo is boring. What rom what rom do you recommend? Thanks Again!

droidguy718 said:
Yeah that's what I meant....I suck at instructions lol
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(Laughing)....no problem, my friend. We're all here to help. Take care...
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Root of card is preferred but anywhere is fine since you will have to point rom manager to it. Alot of roms come with kernels so I wouldn't sweat it. No need to rename. A good starting rom are any kingsroms insane fast and all features usually work most are still froyo but look much different than ur stock rom
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(Laughing)....no problem, my friend. We're all here to help. Take care...
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Wouldn't say I'm a noob but I'm moderately knowledgeable in the flash process, I use amon RA (much better in my opinion) but was never good at giving instruction or directions lol
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droidguy718 said:
Wouldn't say I'm a noob but I'm moderately knowledgeable in the flash process, I use amon RA (much better in my opinion) but was never good at giving instruction or directions lol
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I, too, use amon RA and love it. As for not giving good instructions, don't worry about it. There have been numerous times when I've given summarized instructions because I either assumed the OP knew what I was talking about or I was rushing because I had something else to do. The important thing to remember is that you helped. Period!...
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Thanks I am amazed how quick you helped me out! I am charging battery and then I will wipe and flash a rom with fingers crossed! I am a little scared I am not rich this is the only phone I have but you have a risk when doing any os changes with anything I guess! I will post results of first rom flash!

savannahmick said:
Thanks I am amazed how quick you helped me out! I am charging battery and then I will wipe and flash a rom with fingers crossed! I am a little scared I am not rich this is the only phone I have but you have a risk when doing any os changes with anything I guess! I will post results of first rom flash!
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Not to worry if u run into any problems there are many threads with instructions to unbrick or fix ur problem and people here are usually very quick to help that's why I love it here....and rom manager is very good at not making mistakes in the flash process I used it when I first started so ur in good hands
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And another case of a ROM Manager mishap....

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And another case of a ROM Manager mishap....
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Hopefully, all will go well.
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One last thing how do I install the google apps after rom flash? I think I am going to try Salavge-Mod 1.2.1. Last question for awhile I swear! THANKS AGAIN!

Just d/l the latest version, put it on your sd card, reboot to recovery and flash it, then when you reboot to system, you'll get the prompt to go to the market and d/l each app.

savannahmick said:
One last thing how do I install the google apps after rom flash? I think I am going to try Salavge-Mod 1.2.1. Last question for awhile I swear! THANKS AGAIN!
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You can either flash it immediately after flashing Salvage-Mod or boot into Salvage-Mod first and then press and hold the power button until the menu appear
Select reboot and then select recovery. Once you're back into recovery, wipe cache & dalvik cache and then flash the Google applications (gapps). Afterwards, reboot.
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savannahmick said:
One last thing how do I install the google apps after rom flash? I think I am going to try Salavge-Mod 1.2.1. Last question for awhile I swear! THANKS AGAIN!
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-steps into the fray-
Well I first off wana say, you were in good hands with dougjamal.
To flash gapps:
1. Download the latest gapps / the ones provided in the salvage mod thread
2. Boot into recovery.
3. After you have flashed the salvage mod rom, wipe your cache and dalvik cache, then flash the gapps zip.

Thinking about rooting

i got a US cellular HTC desire with 2.2
im thinking about rooting my phone.
i heard that the unrevoked method is the easiest to use..
i read a few guides on that.. seems pretty straight forward cant mess that up.
after i root i would like to flash a custom rom..
what is a good app or program to use to back up my phone? what are some good roms? what is the best way to flash a ROM.
i read the guides here and they confuse me as i read many ways to do this. just want the easiest way to do it and get it done right.

Try ClockworkMod ROM Manager
ROM Manager is really easy to use and it can also backup your ROM ...it can also help you browse/download other ROMs.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Follow the link above...
I rooted for the first time the other day just following the instructions in the link.
The uploader has included video's and links on where to download everything you'll need.
Happy rooting...

zedmarcus said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Follow the link above...
I rooted for the first time the other day just following the instructions in the link.
The uploader has included video's and links on where to download everything you'll need.
Happy rooting...
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i have hboot 1.06 so not sure what to do...
do i have to do steps 4 and 5?
my friend said this is how i should do it?http://theunlockr.com/2010/09/20/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-unrevoked-method/
i wanna do it but the right way and the easy so i dont brick my phone

With unrevoked you cannot root your phone yet. You have to use the alpharev x.
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xxdesire5044XXX said:
i have hboot 1.06 so not sure what to do...
do i have to do steps 4 and 5?
my friend said this is how i should do it?http://theunlockr.com/2010/09/20/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-unrevoked-method/
i wanna do it but the right way and the easy so i dont brick my phone
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I dunno about unrevoked working on that hboot but I know that revolutionary does. However that only gets you S-OFF, then you have to flash recovery (or you can have it flashed in the process), with which you may flash another ROM.
always remember to do a nandroid backup though!
Also, you having a CDMA desire makes things a bit tougher... for example you can't use the different Hboots from alpharev as they will brick your phone.. and don't quote me on this buy all ROMs may not work on it.

so i guess i wont root my phone... really dont wanna take a chance of bricking my phone. unless theres a very easy way to do it with a slim to none chance of error

so what can i do?

no it's absolutely safe for you to S-OFF.. so don't have to worry about that, just that there are less things available for the BravoC than the Bravo e.g. not all ROMs support BravoC (I know Cyanogenmod does)
Once you've S-OFF'd and flashed recovery (you are prompted whether you would like to flash recovery in the S-OFF process, select yes) you can just flash a custom ROM. Just always remember to do a nandroid backup before you flash anything!!!, and it's also good to do a full wipe before flashing, as you don't get crap from previous ROM (ofc. back it up before you wipe it lol)

MatDrOiD said:
With unrevoked you cannot root your phone yet. You have to use the alpharev x.
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It looks like he's on froyo so he should be able to root using unrevoked fine, no?
[EDIT] oops I just noticed his hboot version, my bad
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timmaaa said:
It looks like he's on froyo so he should be able to root using unrevoked fine, no?
[EDIT] oops I just noticed his hboot version, my bad
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thats his hboot version because he has a BravoC, which has a different hboot version.. that's why I'm unsure whether unrevoked would work (I mean yes, it works on BravoC but I don't know what version/ hboot etc. so It'd be safer to S-OFF, flash recovery, then flash ROM, instead of rooting with unrevoked and flashing recovery through that... get what I mean?)

is there a step by step guide for that?

download revolutionary, turn on USB debugging on your phone, plug it in via USB and run revolutionary (following the process on their sit, all it is, is entering the beta key which is given to you, after that everything is done for you)
During the process, you are prompted whether you wish to install clockworkmod recovery, choose yes (unless you would like to install a better recovery choose no, and I'll continue the guide for that )
If you chose yes to flash recovery while using revolutionary, then skip this step, and any of the lime coloured writing, if you chose no, then follow on and ignore any orange coloured writing.
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Download this recovery, and put it in c:\
Download the attached fastboot.zip, and unpack it into c:\
Open cmd and type:
Code:
cd\
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery c:\recovery-RA-desire-v2.0.0.img
fastboot oem gencheckpt
Note: the last command will boot you into recovery
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Whether you chose to flash clockworkmod recovery in the S-OFF'ing process, or you flashed the Ra Desire recovery in the process I told you about, either way, you should now have a functioning recovery.
>From here, you need to make a nandroid backup (from backup & restore) of your stock, unrooted ROM.
>Once you've got the backup if you're in clockworkmod go to mounts and storage, format boot, format system, format userdata, format cache, go to advanced settings and format dalvic cache.
>If you're in Ra Desire, go to wipe, and select wipe all user data.
>Once you've backed up, and wiped your phone, proceed to install a ROM of your choice from the SD-card. If you are using clockworkmod, choose the install zip from sdcard, flash zip from sd-card, then choose a ROM you downloaded.
>If you're in Ra Desire, go to flash zip from sd-card and install the ROM
Hope that helped you, and hope it's not too confusing for you with all the colour coding and stuff lol

sounds pretty easy.. how do i go bout flashing a rom and what is a good rom that will work with my phone?
on the backup goto back and restore and select back up?
how do i restore once i have a new rom on my phone?
nothing is deleted from my phone till i flash?

xxdesire5044XXX said:
sounds pretty easy.. how do i go bout flashing a rom and what is a good rom that will work with my phone?
on the backup goto back and restore and select back up?
how do i restore once i have a new rom on my phone?
nothing is deleted from my phone till i flash?
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yes, you just select backup and it backs itself up.
If you would like to restore, then you do a full wipe, go to backup and restore, select restore and choose which backup you would like to restore
no, nothing is deleted until you flash
to flash a ROM, like I said in the guide:
>Once you've backed up, and wiped your phone, proceed to install a ROM of your choice from the SD-card. If you are using clockworkmod, choose the install zip from sdcard, flash zip from sd-card, then choose a ROM you downloaded.
>If you're in Ra Desire, go to flash zip from sd-card and install the ROM
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when you select that option, it will take you into a menu with everything in your sd-card, you just have to find where you put the ROM you want, and select it with the trackpad, it will flash itself, then reboot.
This will work on your phone. I'm 110% Sure http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/htc-desire-cdma

so i back up my phone before i flash and after the flash do i restore to get everything back to how it was but with the new rom?

xxdesire5044XXX said:
so i back up my phone before i flash and after the flash do i restore to get everything back to how it was but with the new rom?
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nonnoo you don't restore after flashing.. When you flash a different ROM, you flash a completely different version of Android, that developers have changed/modded. You perform a backup in order to be able to go BACK to your old ROM, if you don't like your new one, or if something goes wrong with it. You only restore when you want to go back to your previous ROM.

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nonnoo you don't restore after flashing.. When you flash a different ROM, you flash a completely different version of Android, that developers have changed/modded. You perform a backup in order to be able to go BACK to your old ROM, if you don't like your new one, or if something goes wrong with it. You only restore when you want to go back to your previous ROM.
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is there a way to copy all my messages and apps and stuff like that?
i know some roms dont come with the google apps how do i get those?
what is the best rom out of those three? there any pics of how they look?

very right I almost forgot about the google apps.
cyanogenmod doesn't come with them, download this and flash it in the same way you would the ROM (WITHOUT WIPING ANYTHING!!) http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version/Google_Apps
You can usually find screenshots of most ROMs.. so it's just about doing some research.
and you can use an app called sms backup+ from the market.
I'd suggest backing up your contacts too! or moving them to the sim card

ok thank you sooo much for your help ill pm you if i have any questions