Tampa/St Petersburg T mobile users - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3

I'm in Tampa/St Pete area and just finished my contract with Sprint. Sprint LTE is actually decent here except that LTE doesn't work too well indoor and the 3G speed is simply horrific. When LTE works, it is anywhere from 3 to 25 Mbps, but 3G is like 98k to 1200kbps with 100-300 kbps being the norm.
I have the Note 2 and thinking of jumping over to T Mobile and buying the Note 3. I don't see a lot of LTE coverage using Sensorly so I was wondeirng how good is the 3G especially the HSPA+. What speed are you getting most of the time? Is there a lot of really bad spots or is the coverage pretty uniform? If not for the paltry 3G speed, I would not be leaving Sprint.
I did the math and with a family plan that is essentially unlimited, I am paying $52/line with Sprint but you have to remember that the phone is subsidized. Taking the $400 subsidy and average that over 2 years, we are basically getting $17/month per line. So our net cost is about $35 per line(tax included) for unlimited everything.
If we all jump over to T-Mobile(4 lines), I will be looking at the $100 + $40( for four 2.5GB(that is the average amount of data we use on Sprint). With tax, it is looking like $170/4 = $42.50/month per line.
I don't mind paying the extra $7.50 x 4 since I prefer the flexibility of a GSM phone. I'm thinking if the coverage is bad, I can always jump to a throttle AIO wireless once they have a family plan. The nail in the coffin is that the Note 3 on Sprint is a uniband LTE phone and not dual band like the T Mobile one.
So how good and consistent is T Mobile 3G/HSPA+ coverage in this area. Sensorly shows that 4G LTE is just being built around here. It is essentially already built out with Sprint.

I'm in the Tampa a lot. Rarely go out to St. Pete. I get at least LTE/HSPA+ when I'm in Tampa. Now, in certain buildings sometimes I get Edge, but we know T-Mobile doesn't have the frequencies that can penetrate buildings well. I haven't had much issues.
According to OpenSignal, T-Mobile and AT&T have almost the same amount of 4G coverage.

Does T Mobile have the 14 days return policy now that there plan is no contract?

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Moving from T-mo to ATT, ATT Gnexus users pls offer suggestions?

Hi fellow nexus users, I have a UK handset that I got from handtec I've been using on tmobile for the past couple weeks and I really enjoy it.
However my family wants to move our plan to ATT asap for various reasons.
Is there anything I should know? We all have unlocked phones (and nobody but me cares about 3g/4g) so I want to go month to month, I don't want to get into a contract.
Any plans that you guys think are good, and will work well with the galaxy nexus?
We're lookin for about a 1000 minutes shared between the 4 of us, data plans on all phones, no texting (We all use google talk or bbm).
I just did the same thing. Switched from Tmo to ATT
Im on the 450min plan with unlimited messaging. Unlimited messaging gives you unlimited mobile to mobile minutes for any cell phone on any network. I rarely if ever call landlines so this plan works for me - all my calling is free and i barely dent the 450 min allotted for other calls.
Im also on the 2GB dataplan. ATT does not reject the IMEI in the GN: they just add a generic smartphone data plan to your phone. If you want a "4G" plan you need to have the ATT rep input the IMEI of a 4G phone such as the Atrix. With the non 4G plan in Miami Im getting around 3down and 1up pretty consistently whereas on TMo i was getting 3-4up and .8-1 down (only outside, never indoors).
If you bring your device in to the store you can sign up for service and not be on a contract. They only bind you if you get a subsidized phone. I am currently contract free. As an added benefit, I no longer drop coverage walking into buildings and ATT doesnt have the MMS bug that TMo does.
Wondering why would you ever switch from T-Mobile to AT&T if you're in a metro area. T-Mobile has much cheaper plans, better data speeds, and full duplex voice.
I'm not sure if you guys did the right thing, but good luck.
milan03 said:
Wondering why would you ever switch from T-Mobile to AT&T if you're in a metro area. T-Mobile has much cheaper plans, better data speeds, and full duplex voice.
I'm not sure if you guys did the right thing, but good luck.
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T-Mobile does have cheaper plans but does not always have better data speeds (location dependant). It's really hit or miss speed wise in Chicago. Both networks get bogged down by congestion. Recently I haven't seen large deviations in speed in Chicago, Charlotte, Newark, Atlanta or Denver, but YMMV.
I see almost identical data speeds usually between the two carriers with AT&T being a bit more consistent and T-Mobile peaking a little higher but overall being less consistent.
There are instances where T-Mobile's backhaul / lesser congestion has helped. Atlantic City saw around 7mbps with T-Mobile and only 3 mbps on AT&T at the airport but T-Mobile also had some nasty dead spots and tower issues there that caused AT&T to be a more effective option outside of the airport. I was stuck on a 3G connection that was slower than Edge (I literally forced the phone into Edge so that the data connection was usable).
The *much* bigger advantage that AT&T can offer is using the 850 Mhz spectrum over T-Mobile's 1700/2100 combo for 3G/4G. 850 penetrates building much better. With T-Mobile I'd often drop to edge inside of buildings whereas I'll stay on 3G/4G (HSPA) with AT&T. AT&T does not utilize 850 everywhere, but where they do the signal penetration is much appreciated.
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T-Mobile does have cheaper plans but does not always have better data speeds (location dependant). It's really hit or miss speed wise in Chicago. Both networks get bogged down by congestion. Recently I haven't seen large deviations in speed in Chicago, Charlotte, Newark, Atlanta or Denver, but YMMV.
I see almost identical data speeds usually between the two carriers with AT&T being a bit more consistent and T-Mobile peaking a little higher but overall being less consistent.
There are instances where T-Mobile's backhaul / lesser congestion has helped. Atlantic City saw around 7mbps with T-Mobile and only 3 mbps on AT&T at the airport but T-Mobile also had some nasty dead spots and tower issues there that caused AT&T to be a more effective option outside of the airport. I was stuck on a 3G connection that was slower than Edge (I literally forced the phone into Edge so that the data connection was usable).
The *much* bigger advantage that AT&T can offer is using the 850 Mhz spectrum over T-Mobile's 1700/2100 combo for 3G/4G. 850 penetrates building much better. With T-Mobile I'd often drop to edge inside of buildings whereas I'll stay on 3G/4G (HSPA) with AT&T. AT&T does not utilize 850 everywhere, but where they do the signal penetration is much appreciated.
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I agree 100%. I could get faster speed tests with TMo standing outside - Inside buildings I can barely break 2mbps down. I get much more consistant results with ATT everywhere. The cost didn't seem worth the lesser service.
I drop from full bars coverage to 1 bar EDGE / no service the minute i walk into my one story office building at work. At my desk I often miss messages (i get them later than I need to) and cant make calls. With full 3G signal I type in a website and it takes a while to start loading, in comparison ATT is almost instant
Maybe theoretically TMo is a good deal but in South Florida I get much much better service with ATT. I've switched between them a few times (whenever I see a phone I like) and Im sure I made the right decision.
Does anyone know of any official plans by att to offer the GN subsidized? I know that if anyone actually knew anything, it would be reposted everywhere, but even a glimmer of hope will be welcome.
In NYC metro area T-Mobile is running circles around AT&T's network in terms of data speeds, latency and especially voice quality. I've seen speeds approaching 30mbps on T-Mobile's 42mbps DC-HSPA handsets and 18mpbs on my GN using $30 PrePaid plan.
AT&T crawls down to EDGE speeds and sometimes time outs during the peak hours when the data becomes unusable. Dropped calls are day to day reality, and I've grown accustomed to that and never ever make important calls using AT&T's network. Plus the plans are almost twice as high. Not recommended.
What is the $30 prepaid plan you use? How many minutes do you get with that?
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What is the $30 prepaid plan you use? How many minutes do you get with that?
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100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
milan03 said:
100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
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Could you link me to this plan?
What do you mean by "Full Duplex Voice" on T-Mo vs ATT
milan03 said:
100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
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Yeah it's the ONLY reason I was willing to buy an unlocked Nexus and go T-mobile, was going to wait for VZ.
I came from Virgin Mobile's 300min version, I would call the t-mobile plan perfect if it was 200 minute, but it's still an insane deal.
As is, I'm using groove IP to make calls out when I'm in wifi in order to save minutes in case I'm out and I need to use my voice minutes.
But $30 for 5GB of H+ is just awesome sauce!
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
I'm on $30 plan myself. At home I use GrooveIP on wifi for VOIP and no minutes used (technically only needing minutes outside of my place).
Saving HUNDREDS of dollars a year is worth it over the slightly slower speeds I get on Tmo over ATT. Also helps pay for the price of the GN easily.
Plus I'm using a company that is much more customer-friendly. Lower plan prices when off contract are something to be supported.
I just wish T-Mobile had International Data plans. I travel to Europe once a month, and $15/mb for international data roaming insane when you can buy 125mb international data plan from AT&T for $50/mo.
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What do you mean by "Full Duplex Voice" on T-Mo vs ATT
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It has to do with how the receive (RX) and transmission (TX) audio are handled. You can either have both RX and TX on 100% of the time or they can be multiplexed into one channel to save bandwidth. It's a misnomer because half-duplex usually means something like this:
Caller1: Hello. Over.
Caller2: Hello. Over.
Caller1: What are...(interrupted)
Caller2: Are you... oh, sorry... Go ahead.
Caller1: What?
Caller2: Huh? Oh. Go ahead! Over.
Caller1: I hate this AT&T half-duplex CB radio crap! When will they get full-duplex??? Over.
Caller2: Can you repeat that? Over.
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ksujace said:
I just wish T-Mobile had International Data plans. I travel to Europe once a month, and $15/mb for international data roaming insane when you can buy 125mb international data plan from AT&T for $50/mo.
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If you're there that often, I'd suggest a prepaid SIM. It's not as if AT&T international data plans are economical. I racked up close to $400 of roaming last month for a two week trip to London. All expensed, so no biggie. But it's still pants down, no lube.
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If you're there that often, I'd suggest a prepaid SIM. It's not as if AT&T international data plans are economical. I racked up close to $400 of roaming last month for a two week trip to London. All expensed, so no biggie. But it's still pants down, no lube.
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I'm in the same boat , all expensed , so don't really care. I don't like having multiple phone #'s when over there. (travel to Switzerland 1 week every month)
tmobile is awesome if i stay outside or never travel. But then, so is cricket.
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100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
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Do you have any idea on how bad AT&T throttles speeds on their unlimited data plan?

T mobile sucks.

My AT&T contract is about to expire. I thought I would give a TMO monthly 4g a shot. I've driven 700 miles in the last 2 days along I-40, data coverage is non existent.
GNEX stays on G and sometimes R.
Any secret APN settings I need to know about?
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My weekly commute between Austin and Houston is same - almost non-existent data coverage. Once in a major population area, then everything's good.
Too bad at&t break-up fees mostly went to DT, otherwise TMo could really use it to shore up the data coverage.
It would help if you stated where you lived or travel to so people within the same city could provide you a basis of comparison.
Oh man this reminds me of the days I was on Tmo. Its best to just sign back on with At&T or get VZW
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Tmo is really good if you're within their HSPA+ areas...but you can't beat $30 a month with unlimited text and Web (1st 5gb @ 4G) and 100 mins.
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Tmo is really good if you're within their HSPA+ areas...but you can't beat $30 a month with unlimited text and Web (1st 5gb @ 4G) and 100 mins.
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Exactly. You need to be in a decent size city in order to utilize TMobile. Anywhere outside it's a hit or miss, more likely a miss.
Let's see, you're comparing a PREPAID (no roaming) vs a POSTPAID (roaming).
Of course it's not going to go well if you're travelling down highways in middle of nowhere.
I love tmobile - choose your carrier dependent on your needs. Check a coverage map before signing up.
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Let's see, you're comparing a PREPAID (no roaming) vs a POSTPAID (roaming).
Of course it's not going to go well if you're travelling down highways in middle of nowhere.
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Bingo. You don't get to roam on AT&T like their Postpaid plans. You kinda had to know what you're getting into with Prepaid.
T-Mo is great in cities, but you're kidding yourself if you think you're gonna get HSPA+ (or even UMTS) on a freeway between cities. Just not how their coverage is.
You could look at Straight Talk, which is an AT&T MVNO. You could probably get a bit better coverage with that. Still doesn't roam but AT&T's footprint is probably better.
It all depends on where you're usually at. For the particular areas in So Cal where I typically travel, live, and work, AT&T is by far the worst of the carriers I've had (T-Mo, Verizon, ATT).
OK, I'll be a little more specific. I took a trip from Little Rock, AR to Knoxville, TN. I traveled along a major Interstate, Interstate 40. I recall seeing "4G", for a reasonable amount of time (maybe 2 minutes worth), in Nashville. I say that's reasonable because I drove through Memphis so quick I guess my phone never had a chance to find "4G" data service.
I spent the entire trip swapping out sim cards, mainly using the TMO. When I would become frustrated with the TMO service, mostly on "G", I would pop in my AT&T sim. Instant "4G" service. One second TMO "G", the next AT&T "4G". Not really sure how this is possible. They both charge about the same for their service, but their service is not the same.
I paid $60 for TMO unlimited talk, text, and data. Only later to find that, with those whopping 46 kilobytes per second download speeds, when I was lucky enough to get data, I would never even get close to my metering limit of 2 gigs. With those speeds I would be lucky to even use up 1 meg of data.
How can they charge so much for their "Nations largest 4G network"?
WHAT A JOKE.
I thought AT&T was ripping me off with their prices. I know feel like I have the greatest network provider on earth.
I did call the StraighTalkSIM folks to ask about data speeds. They were kind enough to let know that the fastest speeds I would see would be equivalent to AT&T's "3G". I can live with that for a cell phone bill that would be about 40% of what I pay now. I'll probably give them a try.
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OK, I'll be a little more specific. I took a trip from Little Rock, AR to Knoxville, TN. I traveled along a major Interstate, Interstate 40. I recall seeing "4G", for a reasonable amount of time (maybe 2 minutes worth), in Nashville. I say that's reasonable because I drove through Memphis so quick I guess my phone never had a chance to find "4G" data service.
I spent the entire trip swapping out sim cards, mainly using the TMO. When I would become frustrated with the TMO service, mostly on "G", I would pop in my AT&T sim. Instant "4G" service. One second TMO "G", the next AT&T "4G". Not really sure how this is possible. They both charge about the same for their service, but their service is not the same.
I paid $60 for TMO unlimited talk, text, and data. Only later to find that, with those whopping 46 kilobytes per second download speeds, when I was lucky enough to get data, I would never even get close to my metering limit of 2 gigs. With those speeds I would be lucky to even use up 1 meg of data.
How can they charge so much for their "Nations largest 4G network"?
WHAT A JOKE.
I thought AT&T was ripping me off with their prices. I know feel like I have the greatest network provider on earth.
I did call the StraighTalkSIM folks to ask about data speeds. They were kind enough to let know that the fastest speeds I would see would be equivalent to AT&T's "3G". I can live with that for a cell phone bill that would be about 40% of what I pay now. I'll probably give them a try.
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Sorry that T-Mobile Prepaid doesn't have service in your area (no roaming + leave the city = no service)...
Try Straight Talk because it uses AT&T. You still don't get roaming though, so the footprint is smaller than the actual AT&T coverage map. You'll get full HSPA+ speeds where available with Straight Talk.

Sprint Vision Network Upgrade Helped Me Get Out Of My Contract Without ETF

I've been with Sprint for 10 years and have always been happy until I moved to Los Angeles where the service is beyond awful. Although some spots were not too bad, there was enough that it made streaming anything unrealistic, etc. Of course "not to bad" for Sprint was like 250kbps in LA. I started complaining a few months ago and they explained that a lot of it has to do with Vision being deployed in LA and so I've been waiting patiently. You can tell where Vision has gone in, but again the inconsistent coverage makes my phone frustrating to use. Even where Vision has gone in, you are only getting about 1mbps and with WiMax being pretty much useless, Sprint is only now implementing what everyone has been paying for over the course of several years.
Anyway, I told them I wanted out and after going back and forth for awhile they said okay. In other words, because their installation of Vision disrupts current service or a prolonged period of time, if you push a little bit they will let you out without ETF. The one condition is that you send them "whatever phone is linked to your number at the time of cancellation." This is interesting because you could switch your line to a cheap phone and send that back in and then sell your Epic Touch.
As has been suggested on several other threads, I am moving to a month-to-month solution off contract for much cheaper.
Google now sells the unlocked Galaxy Nexus for $350 (which you could probably mostly cover by selling your Epic 4g) and then you have a lot of options, but the cheapest solutions are:
1) T-Mobile Month-to-Month: $30 per month for unlimited data (5GB at high speed), unlimited text, but only 100 voice minutes. I'm going with this because I don't make many calls and I can use WiFi calling at school or at home.
2) Straight Talk is a joint venture between Walmart and TracFone Wireless. For $45 a month, you get unlimited everything and you can choose a sim card that works on either T-Mobile or AT&T. The catch here is that the TOS really limits what you can use the unlimited data for. There are several threads dedicated to this in the Galaxy Nexus forum, but if you leave out the proxy information when setting up the APN, they will only throttle your data around 5GB.
Anyway, hope this info helps someone.
So basically you're ditching sprint because they're upgrading LA from unusable sub 200kbps speeds to 1mbps + speeds at last?
Tf? You managed to somewhat live with crappy service for many months and now you that they're upgrading their service... you don't like it?
Bye.
No, I haven't lived with crappy service for many months. I had years of good service at my previous location and since moving to LA (which was not that long ago), the service has been horrible. According to Sprint reps, Vision deployment is just about complete here in LA and the majority of spots still have horrible reception and data transfer speeds. Lastly, 1mbps is not a good speed when T-Mobile and AT&T HSPA+ can offer much better speeds. 1mbps is what everyone should expect from a 3g service. WiMax is a joke and I'm not going to stick with Sprint and buy an LTE capable phone on the off-chance that Sprint's LTE blankets LA with good coverage in a reasonable amount of time.
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So basically you're ditching sprint because they're upgrading LA from unusable sub 200kbps speeds to 1mbps + speeds at last?
Tf? You managed to somewhat live with crappy service for many months and now you that they're upgrading their service... you don't like it?
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HSPA+ that ATT and Tmobile uses is 3.5g technology. Theo Max of 21 mbps..
EVDO Rev A is actual 3g technology... Theo max of 3.1 Mbps
Network Vision 3g speeds are 1-2 mbps average and sometimes a tad over 2 but always under 3mbps which are the same or faster than Verizon 3g. ATT and Tmobile HSPA 3g usually is around 2-4 mbps or lower depending on area which is equivalent to Sprint / VZ 3g.
Oh and bye!
Another one that will not end up well. Best of luck on all your ventures.

coverage compared to Sprint-thinking of moving to T-Mobile

right now I'm on Sprint, and whenever I go into a building my coverage goes down to almost no bars. I'm thinking of going to T-Mobile, but I wanna know how coverage is, particularly on their Galaxy S3. I have Sprint's Galaxy S3 right now. What kind of download speeds should I expect on a T-Mobile GS3 on HSPA+? On Edge (also to compare to Sprint's "3G")? How about voice coverage, does it drop calls a lot? I'm still in the 14 day period where I can return my Sprint GS3, pay the ETF, and use the rest of the money to buy the T-Mobile version.
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right now I'm on Sprint, and whenever I go into a building my coverage goes down to almost no bars. I'm thinking of going to T-Mobile, but I wanna know how coverage is, particularly on their Galaxy S3. I have Sprint's Galaxy S3 right now. What kind of download speeds should I expect on a T-Mobile GS3 on HSPA+? On Edge (also to compare to Sprint's "3G")? How about voice coverage, does it drop calls a lot? I'm still in the 14 day period where I can return my Sprint GS3, pay the ETF, and use the rest of the money to buy the T-Mobile version.
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I came from sprint after 9 years and live in the bay area. I average about 10mbps. Inside building penetration is not so great with tmo. When I'm inside target most of the time I lose signal more quickly compared to to my sprint phone. I too have the sprint s3 but deactivated and can still see a bar where on the tmo i lose all bars. Eventually though the sprint s3 also loses all bars but not as quickly. In some areas like inside hospital I lose all tmo bars but my sprint I get 4 bars out of 6 still. Edge on tmo is max at about 80kbps compared to sprint 3g which I can get up to 800kbps at the highest but avg about 400kbps most of the time. Tmo s3 has a tendency to go to edge alot in areas where I get about 2 bars when on 4g usually at home and work. You can force 4g on the phone by dialing *#*#4636#*#* and it locks to 4g for the most part even at zero bars and can still get about 4mbps. Outside I get better 4g signal and get them most everywhere I go so thats a plus. IMO your best bet is to try it yourself as my results may not be the same as yours unless you live in the bay area. Thats what I'm doing right now. If you buy from Costco you get 30 days return and I have till Aug 5th to decided if I wanna keep it. Buy from costco retail is $389 and get the value plan which will save you more $ during the 2 yr contract vs buying it subsidized but you pay more monthly with their classic plans. I had to pay $110 ETF with sprint as I had 1 more year left under contract but if I go back within 45 days they will reinstate my contract and refund my ETF.
I went with the $64.99 value plan and I added unlimited wifi calling which doesnt deduct from my 500 allotted minutes. You can add the feature via online or the mytmobile app.
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This depends largely on where you live. Where I live in NYC, sprint had a poor signal and sprints LTE is rolling out slowly and not available yet in my area. I didn't feel like paying the extra ten bucks for 4G when I'm not able to use it. They can figure out how to pay for it on their dime, not mine. Inside buildings, I get better coverage with T-mobile in general, for some reason I can even dial inside an elevator, very poor quality but hey if the need arises, it has a better chance of being there. I look at this constantly, it's one of those things I was always curious which carrier would have my back in an elevator emergency. Tmobile won out. Sprint never got a signal but tmobile i get a bar or two. I also have wifi calling so inside buildings I am in frequently, I always switch to wifi and it has beautiful coverage this way. T-mobile's 4G reaches me and it works pretty fast and I'm glad I have it. I keep reading that sprint's LTE will probably roll out in november or december so we'll see.
I'm with aznmode, i jad sprint for over two years,back then there 3g wasn't bad so it work great,now it just plane sucks, I live in Las Vegas and i have been ablw to test this, in the casinos they both suck, there is not way you going to download an app for quick view, walmart target situation, sprint sucks wont load crap, tmobile will load but if you go to electronics section, you signal will get worse and might drop off to edge, having said that i kept tmobile, I dont spent much time in those stores and where i work and live i get between 7-18mbps so the works much better, compare to sprint 500-900kbps, I had att for a while and there network is much better, if you dont care about the price, inside walmart without a hiccup and,no peefect in casinos but much better, hope this helps
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Tmo is way better
Sprint coverage really sucks. I am on Tmobile, and I get coverage in remote areas.

[Q] Pros and Cons of switching to T-Mobile, What are they?

I'm on Verizon's unlimited grandfather plan.
Nationwide Talk Unlimited $69.99 I actually use 1200 min / month
Email & Web Unlimited $29.99 I actually use 40 GB/ Month most of the time.
Total Equipment Coverage - Asurion $8.00
After taxes I pay $121.51 and I don't use Text messaging. I have no complaint about Verizon's service. Except my Note 4 is locked down.
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In tmobile 4 lines for $100 that includes 2.5gb each and $30 extra each line for unlimited 4g data.
And verizon note 4 is actually unlocked and tmobile is locked.
U can use verizon note 4 on tmobile only problem is doesn't work on lte only on hspa with speeds 6mb down and 2.5mb down (that's what i get) or u can root ur phone and unlock the band 4 and use lte but it will trip knox and void warr8.
The verizon works on tmobile and I get lte here in Massachusetts . Not sure what band t-mobile uses in my area , but I have had no issues using it on verizon note 4.
Where I live you would definitely keep Verizon. I'm in Roanoke, Va. and its very rural once you leave the city. T-mobile blows away Verizon's LTE in the city but once you just barely leave the city you go to no service or edge data. I guess it just depends on where you live or how much you travel but I would keep Verizon.
pro/con:
cheaper (at least it would be for myself)
no bull**** over hotspot; tmobile includes it with all plans
throttle data after using allotment (no overcharge )
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some people say reception is worse (don't know never used it)
some people say reception inside is worse due to higher frequency (both data and celluar) don't know never used it
some people say gsm can be a lot worse for voice (don't know I've always used cdma but people who call me on iphone at&t always sound very poor (broken up speech; though with the note 4 it is not nearly as bad as it was with the note 2 - not sure why)
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I've never used t-mobile but been very tempted to switch to not deal with the hotspot bull**** (verizon actually SPENDS money to block samsung/google built in hotspot). Then again my plan on verizon is pretty cheap and it works and their customer support people have been very nice so 'cept for hotspot i have no reason to switch (I do not have an unlimited plan).
If you're using 40 gb a month on a grandfathered unlimited you're pretty much stuck. If you want that much 4g on T-Mobile it's going to cost a lot. If you don't care about speed, T-Mobile gives you unlimited 2g data after you use up your plan's 4g allocation
Cons. No good reception. Period. My brother has T-Mobile, Note 4 too. His 4G is a joke. I leave by the beach in south Florida, so as soon as he gets near my house, he loses data...
Its not just the fact that you will have no service, its that T-Mobile has admitted multiple times that they have no plans for rural coverage expansion for the future.
Source- I have reached out to the Office of the President John legere 3 seperate times and all 3 times I was told,
"we have no future plans to expand service in your area"
So unless you live in a bubble somewhere in the city your beat.
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In tmobile 4 lines for $100 that includes 2.5gb each and $30 extra each line for unlimited 4g data.
And verizon note 4 is actually unlocked and tmobile is locked.
U can use verizon note 4 on tmobile only problem is doesn't work on lte only on hspa with speeds 6mb down and 2.5mb down (that's what i get) or u can root ur phone and unlock the band 4 and use lte but it will trip knox and void warr8.
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When you said your phone, is it the Note 3 or 4? Because my vzw Note 4 works out of the box with tmo LTE and I get over 60Mbps download right now. I use both networks. Tmo works fine if you live in the major cities where they have good LTE coverages. In the small towns, you better stick with vzw.
Being a tmo customer for the last 10 years, their network has improved a lot. Most of my friends have switched to tmobile because their home and work now have better coverages and you can't beat $100/4 line with no overages.
My grandfather plan has unlimited minutes for 3 lines with unlimited LTE, sms, jump and insurance for 1 line and I'm paying around $95.
Things have changed now with the Verizon.....
doctor-cool said:
I'm on Verizon's unlimited grandfather plan.
Nationwide Talk Unlimited $69.99 I actually use 1200 min / month
Email & Web Unlimited $29.99 I actually use 40 GB/ Month most of the time.
Total Equipment Coverage - Asurion $8.00
After taxes I pay $121.51 and I don't use Text messaging. I have no complaint about Verizon's service. Except my Note 4 is locked down.
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T-Mobile's Note 4 is unlocked
What could I expect from T-Mobile in Houston Texas
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Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Developer Edition http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...izon-galaxy-note-4-developer-edition-t2914717 We now have Team Win Recovery and Root on the Verizon Network with the Note 4 Developer Edition
Just switched from T-Mobile here in San Antonio:
Better call quality everywhere.
Slower LTE speeds in town.
NO signal out of town. I travel a bit and I noticed that TMobile is great as long as you are not going anywhere. If you travel outside of any major city, you will be lucky to send a text message. My phone was completely inoperable outside of the city limits here.
robbyr said:
Just switched from T-Mobile here in San Antonio:
Better call quality everywhere.
Slower LTE speeds in town.
NO signal out of town. I travel a bit and I noticed that TMobile is great as long as you are not going anywhere. If you travel outside of any major city, you will be lucky to send a text message. My phone was completely inoperable outside of the city limits here.
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Did you use a Verizon Note 4 ? I can't seem to get AWS (UMTS band IV) to work on my phone. Is there any where I can unlock the band IV? NOT THE LTE ONE but the 3G/4G.

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