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Faster charging times

Just posted this in another forum. Heres the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19994949#post19994949

So you charged the note with it in one hour?
Isn't there a limitation on the current the charger outputs while charging?

I didn't charge the Note. I originally posted this in another section for another phone model if you follow the link. I posted the thread here cause Note owners would get benefits from this charger in quicker times. I do like this one better than Apples 2A charger. Hp's is sleeker, compact and comes with a 5ft cable.

HP Touchpad USB charger Amazon deal
spinrite said:
Just posted this in another forum. Heres the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19994949#post19994949
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Thanks for the info. Just found it on Amazon for $9.88.

Every phone charges slowly from PC USB port, right?
Do you think this would be safe? It's a cable that is designed for portable hard drives, to give them enough power. Maybe it would give the phone too much amperage (?)
My quick research finds that a typical PC USB port (and for sure Mac) has 500 mA power, so if you used this cable with two inputs, you'd be giving the Note 1000 mA which is basically like the wall charger, so it should be safe. What do you think?

I've used it for 4 full charges and the battery stays cool but charges fast. No problems to date. It's been a great find.

Well, i have been using the charger that came with my Galaxy tab wich is 2 amp, since atday one.
No problem at all. It charges in little more than an hour.
I also have been doing this for more than a year with mi exiphone and the charger from the Ipad.
Maybe in the long run the battery life suffers, but i haven't seen anything like that. And honestly, waiting two and a half hours to get the phone charged via regular charger and ready to go me is not an option.

Going to order one right now and give it a try.
Does anyone know of any car chargers that can charge at about the same speed?

PowerJolt iPad charger
jojorios said:
Going to order one right now and give it a try.
Does anyone know of any car chargers that can charge at about the same speed?
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Griffintechnology PowerJolt ipad car charger http://store.griffintechnology.com/ipad?griffin_product_categories=164

Tiamath99 said:
Well, i have been using the charger that came with my Galaxy tab wich is 2 amp, since atday one.
No problem at all. It charges in little more than an hour.
I also have been doing this for more than a year with mi exiphone and the charger from the Ipad.
Maybe in the long run the battery life suffers, but i haven't seen anything like that. And honestly, waiting two and a half hours to get the phone charged via regular charger and ready to go me is not an option.
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Wow, crazy.
Would you be willing to install Battery monitor widget and show me the log file during charging? Just curious to see the rate of charge (i.e. during the start and end, as it slows down)
- Frank

That would be the perfect buy then :
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...EW6Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323167156&sr=8-1
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No problem Frank.
I'll try to do it as soon as i get home tonight.
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That would be the perfect buy then :
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Technology-PowerDuo-Charger-iPhone/dp/B003GAEW6Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323167156&sr=8-1
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It is.
I also have been using the 2 amp car charger that came with the original car mount of the Galaxy tab for the note and works great.
2 amp rules!!!!

So, following the same logic - the iPad charger should fit too. I am testing it now - so far so good.

ChodTheWacko said:
Wow, crazy.
Would you be willing to install Battery monitor widget and show me the log file during charging? Just curious to see the rate of charge (i.e. during the start and end, as it slows down)
- Frank
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I installed the Battery Monitor Widget. It says Techno: Li-ion 1500/1500mAh. This is obviously incorrect for the Note. So can anything it says about the Note's battery be of any use?

cushcalc said:
Thanks for the info. Just found it on Amazon for $9.88.
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I found it too
Got it for $0.00 and free 2 day shipping
Amazon messed up with one of their promotions and gave me 2-$5 promotional credits when I purchased $9.51 li-ion duracell batteries. Boy, I love Amazon

Do the Apple 2A chargers for the iPad work for "fast charging" the Note? I know when I bought one in the hopes of fast charging my Galaxy S it didn't work. The Galaxy S just recognizes it as a regular USB charger. No matter which USB cable I use (even the OEM Samsung that came with the GalaxyS)
The charger I bought was this one from Macally, the CARUSB10 and it does not work for fast charging:
http://www.macally.com/en/Product/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=332
However, if I use my Samsung AC wall charger or my Wife's car charger for her Blackberry it is recognized as a "AC" charger and I get the good charging speed.
Riley

cushcalc said:
I installed the Battery Monitor Widget. It says Techno: Li-ion 1500/1500mAh. This is obviously incorrect for the Note. So can anything it says about the Note's battery be of any use?
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That amperage is an estimate. I guess what is more interesting the time between percentages.
- Frank

I have used a 2A Iphone charger without any problem. Same charger didn't work for my previous Galaxy Tab 7".
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Note

^^ yup, same here. No problem with 2A iPad charger. Haven't measured but charging times are at least 50% faster.

Neat!!
So, the Apple fast chargers now "fast charge" with the newer Samsung devices?
Riley

problems charging the note 2 in the car - any ideas?

here is my setup in the car and i can't get the note to charge - well, it does say its charging but at best it will maintain my charge level it never actually charges
dedicated charger into my fuse box
note hooked up with mhl to my pioneer appradio 2
gps running, mhl running, bluetooth running. i use a screen off app to totally black out the screen.
now, this setup with my gs3 worked perfectly it would charge the gs3 like crazy as fast as a wall charger it seemed. with the note it will never increase in charge but at best maintain or slowly use charge. the power it is getting cannot keep up with all the tasks its doing.
now, i know this phone is a beast...but can anyone think of anything for me to try or buy to get this charging no matter what? i figure it may take custom kernals or something like that to finally get it done.
that being said - if you are using an android phone you absolutely must check out the pioneer appradio 2 with the appradio liberator app. you hook the phone up via mhl and with the app have full touchscreen control and mirroring of your phone on the 7inch touchscrreen radio display its pretty awesome.

I know the wall charger is a 2A rated charger....which is built for tablets. Perhaps attempt to locate a travel charger rated as such. I'm no scientist, or electritian so I cannot attest this will work, but just thought I would throw it out there
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Jcossack88 said:
I know the wall charger is a 2A rated charger....which is built for tablets. Perhaps attempt to locate a travel charger rated as such. I'm no scientist, or electritian so I cannot attest this will work, but just thought I would throw it out there
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my chargers i the car claim to be 2a but doesn't seem to make a difference. hell, the one charger would chage an ipad in the past

most samsung tablets need an adapter to "trick" fast charging mode on non-samsumg chargers. otherwise it'll just trickle charge. i've not tried any yet but seems i may have to since the gnote2 is gonna need the same juice as my gn101. kinda what i expected since they're pretty much the same specs.
here's a thread to make your own adapter:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845844
page 9 has a few links buy your own. just put .com in place of .co.uk on the ebay links.
here one for $3. ships from china so it may take a few weeks.

the stock AC charger supplied with the note 2 is 2A. I also have a 2A car charger. I cannot get the note to charge at any rate higher than 1A. Yes, i do know the trick to get the phone to go into fast charge mode. I have a feeling that 1A is the most we are going to get. Yes, if you have a ton of stuff running all at once you are going to use more than 1A and end up with a dead battery after a while. It does suck. My previous phone (Epic) would not charge beyond .5A. It died while on my car charger ALL the time. Hopefully this one wont die quite as often.
JD

JudasD said:
the stock AC charger supplied with the note 2 is 2A. I also have a 2A car charger. I cannot get the note to charge at any rate higher than 1A. Yes, i do know the trick to get the phone to go into fast charge mode. I have a feeling that 1A is the most we are going to get. Yes, if you have a ton of stuff running all at once you are going to use more than 1A and end up with a dead battery after a while. It does suck. My previous phone (Epic) would not charge beyond .5A. It died while on my car charger ALL the time. Hopefully this one wont die quite as often.
JD
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have you actually tried the trick or the item in the link posted above? if so no use in me ordering it

knives of ice said:
have you actually tried the trick or the item in the link posted above? if so no use in me ordering it
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I've just ordered 3 of the $3 ones from deal extreme. it'll be a while before I can test it on a gn2. I'll try them on my gn10.1 as soon as they come in.

madsquabbles said:
I've just ordered 3 of the $3 ones from deal extreme. it'll be a while before I can test it on a gn2. I'll try them on my gn10.1 as soon as they come in.
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I ordered one from a usa seller on eBay hopefully I'll have it next week

This seems like it'd be very easy to do yourself with an old mUSB cable.

ffolkes said:
This seems like it'd be very easy to do yourself with an old mUSB cable.
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yeah maybe but the part is a couple dollars alot less time and frustration to buy

ffolkes said:
This seems like it'd be very easy to do yourself with an old mUSB cable.
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yep, looks really easy. i just wont' be able to make it as pretty

knives of ice said:
have you actually tried the trick or the item in the link posted above? if so no use in me ordering it
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Yes, the trick i use is to short the two data lines going to the phone NOT towards the charging source. If you do not do this the phone will be in USB mode which will only allow a charging rate of .38A. This seems to be an android/usb standard across almost all vendors. once i short the data lines that is when the phone will go into full charging mode. The highest i can get the phone to go is 1A and this is even with the supplied Samsung 2A charger. I have also tried an iPad charger and it still only produced 1A to the Note II.
The Note II also seems to vary the input current based on how much battery is left. If the Note is very low (i.e. 50%) it will go into 1A. If the battery is high (i.e.95%), the current will bounce around. I have seen it start at .5A, jump to .8A, then to 1A, then right back down to .5A and it will continue there until it reaches 100%.
Bottom line i have not seen anything above 1A
JD

at least one of the adapters on the other thread claims 2A, but i don't think i've seen anyone with those results.

this is a pretty ridiculous problem for samsung to do nothing about is it not? the notion that you can't even charge your note in the car is a bit ridiculous. i wonder if someone makes a kernal with fast charging enabled if we'll be able to get around this

knives of ice said:
this is a pretty ridiculous problem for samsung to do nothing about is it not? the notion that you can't even charge your note in the car is a bit ridiculous. i wonder if someone makes a kernal with fast charging enabled if we'll be able to get around this
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you can charge, just ridiculous slow. i occasionally charge my galaxy note 10.1 on my computer's usb when i'm too lazy to whoop out the charger. i do it a work where i know i won't use it for 8 hours.

madsquabbles said:
you can charge, just ridiculous slow. iccasionally charge my galaxy note 10.1 on my computer's usb when i'm too lazy to whoop out the charger. i do it a work where i know i won't use it for 8 hours.
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You can't charge if you are intensively using the phone though. it loses charge.

Is there a specific car charger yet for the Note 2? I imagine this issue will be resolved with that charger.
People with the HTC Flyer/Evo View had similar issues. Unless we use HTC proprietary car charger, you lose power while plugged in. Standard usb chargers, charge it very slowly.
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I am using the PowerGen Dual USB 3.1A 15w High Output Car Charger since it claims to be a 3.1A charger. What I thought was a fast charge was in reality not. Using the Current Widget app (which shows you the mAh) it registers 9882 mA for one of the usb slots and 10005 mAh for the other using the Galaxy Note 1.
TS

twospirits said:
I am using the PowerGen Dual USB 3.1A 15w High Output Car Charger since it claims to be a 3.1A charger. What I thought was a fast charge was in reality not. Using the Current Widget app (which shows you the mAh) it registers 9882 mA for one of the usb slots and 10005 mAh for the other using the Galaxy Note 1.
TS
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so does that charger actually charge your phone then ?

Yes, just like a regular 1mA wall charger, but not like the 2mA one that comes with the Note 2.
TS

Any phone stands that would work with the n5 and the nexus charger?

I'm not as handy as some in the forums...but I can glue things together. Any phone stands out there that would work nicely with the n5 charger and the nexus?
I've a case on so I can't rely on the chargers magnets unfortunately, so I need proper stand
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I'm not 100% sure what you're asking here, but get one of these and call it a day.
http://www.tylt.com/vu/

_MetalHead_ said:
I'm not 100% sure what you're asking here, but get one of these and call it a day.
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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I'm assuming he wants to make his own type of DIY stand.
Do you have the Tylt? I'm interested in it.

dinggus said:
I'm assuming he wants to make his own type of DIY stand.
Do you have the Tylt? I'm interested in it.
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Yep, it's sitting right next to me. Wonderful charger. I use it for my N7 and my N5.

_MetalHead_ said:
Yep, it's sitting right next to me. Wonderful charger. I use it for my N7 and my N5.
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Very pricey, I want it. I'll have to see catch it at a deal.

The Tylt definitely is a looker, but I can't justify spending that much on a charger.
I just want something around $15 - $25 that outputs higher than 1A... I want to at least attempt to come close to the max Qi for the Nexus 5.
The cheap $15 one I have right now is 1A max output (so less of course) and I'd say it charges a little over half as fast as the stock charger.
I don't want to spend higher than that for essentially a glorified usb cable.

Missed out on the tylt deal (also already have the nexus) so I couldnt get one. So trying the diy route

Yeah I'm with you guys, they definitely charge a premium for it. I missed out on the sale too but bought it anyway and I'm glad I did. It's really one of the most convenient accessories if not THE most convenient accessory I've ever bought for a phone/tablet and it's that convenience you pay for. I wish it was cheaper, but still think it's worth the asking price.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Yeah I'm with you guys, they definitely charge a premium for it. I missed out on the sale too but bought it anyway and I'm glad I did. It's really one of the most convenient accessories if not THE most convenient accessory I've ever bought for a phone/tablet and it's that convenience you pay for. I wish it was cheaper, but still think it's worth the asking price.
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I read a post on here a few minutes ago about staying away from wireless chargers because they damage the battery. How true is this?

dinggus said:
I read a post on here a few minutes ago about staying away from wireless chargers because they damage the battery. How true is this?
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Don't really see how, and I have no issues with either of my devices. I would think if wireless chargers damaged the battery, then phone manufacturers wouldn't add that feature. Do you mind linking that post?

_MetalHead_ said:
Don't really see how, and I have no issues with either of my devices. I would think if wireless chargers damaged the battery, then phone manufacturers wouldn't add that feature. Do you mind linking that post?
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Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583508
Article that was posted by a user: http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256

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Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583508
Article that was posted by a user: http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
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Ahhh the heat thing. Yeah, that *can* degrade the performance of a battery over an extended period of time, but I don't see that being a major concern. Your phone gets warmer during gaming sessions or just browsing the web than it does when on a wireless charger so the argument can be made that it's worse for the battery to actually use the phone than to charge it wirelessly. That said, at least in my experience, my TYLT charger doesn't make my N5 or N7 warm at all. And my N5 is on it all the time. Bottom line- use your phone the way you want to, you're going to be upgrading long before your battery dies anyway.

Slightly OT, but does it matter if you plug in your Qi charger into a USB 2.0 port on a computer, or do you need to use a USB 3.0?
I know that the mAh of USB 2.0 is something like only 500mAh, but I believe it still supplies the same 5V as USB 3.0 would. Would a Qi charger go by the 5V input, or would is use the 500mAh max draw rendering the charge time absolutely horrendous?
I don't really know how it works too well. I have my Qi charger plugged into a USB port on my power bar for my night stand. But I'd like to have 2 more, 1 for my desk (hooked to my desktop computer) and another for my notebook.

Anybody use any of these Qi portable power banks?

I'm looking to by a something as the title suggests. I am looking into 3 on Amazon that look good for the price.
First: MOCREO(TM) 10000mAh High Capacity Portable Power Bank http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FRDNLD8/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1J7O7Q2KLU8CQ
Second: Anker 6000mAh High-Capacity Qi-Enabled
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EST8MRM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A294P4X9EWVXLJ
Third: LuguLake 6000mAh Qi - Enabled Inductive Wireless Charger Charging Pad
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CY4SG10/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_9?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOHIKKIFQW3GG
If any of you guys used any of these, what is your experience with it? Also if you could provide info on whether or not the Nexus 5 will stick on there until a certain angle or will it slip right off even if you move the charger around. Asking this because i'll be using it in the car also.
Thanks

I have the Lugulake one. It's good, works well, charges the phone in a very similar time to the wall charger and has a decent grip on the phone, not sure how good it'd be in car tho. But.... I also want one of these which I'll be ordering soon for the car -
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=261296610776
Or maybe -
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=360808392822
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I have two Lugulakes and they work great. Just to say the unit never gets hot nor does the phone. Good portable device.

wyrman said:
I have two Lugulakes and they work great. Just to say the unit never gets hot nor does the phone. Good portable device.
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can u share some pics of it and the link from where u got it.....

Jimmy2u said:
can u share some pics of it and the link from where u got it.....
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http://www.amazon.ca/LuguLake-6000m...=UTF8&qid=1389127445&sr=8-1&keywords=lugulake

I also have the Lugulake and I'm quite happy with it.

I think both of those devices are available on Amazon and for under $50. I'm thinking of getting the first one. Vent mount and I can use my SGS3 with it.
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I have the Lugulake one. It's good, works well, charges the phone in a very similar time to the wall charger and has a decent grip on the phone, not sure how good it'd be in car tho. But.... I also want one of these which I'll be ordering soon for the car -
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=261296610776
Or maybe -
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=360808392822
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I have one I got on ebay that is 10,000mah and looks identical to the first link. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/141047804367) It cost $37 (looks like the price dropped a little since) and so far I'm very happy with it, though I've only used it a bit when traveling. It does take a while to charge since 10,000mah on a 1A charger is 10hrs. I haven't really carefully tested its functionality though. I wonder if its current discharge limit is lower than it says, though, since I noticed when I had my n5 plugged into it the 2.1A port and under heavy use (games) the phone battery didnt charge, it only discharged slower... I'll have to test more.

Chargers!?! Where?

Anyone have any good places (preferably Amazon Prime) to get a few replacement chargers (and car too) that will rapid charge the device?
Thanks in advanced... I looked through the past 3 pages of threads and didn't see anything.
I found this one.. but not sure it will do the fast/rapid charging:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DDLYCUW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A294P4X9EWVXLJ

The best chargers to use are the blackberry playbook chargers. Ive been using these things since the note 3 and they charge fast! They are like 15 dollars for 5 of them on ebay. OEM and all.

Do they actually "fast" charge the Note 4?

You can only get the "fast" charge with the charger that came with the phone, although my old S4 charger charges the phone pretty quick too. Not as fast tho!
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I haven't used my car charger once since I got this phone, half of the battery lasts me all day easily...I forget that this thing runs on a battery sometimes lol.
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Right, that was my worry. So where do we get more of these "fast" chargers????

someonexh said:
Do they actually "fast" charge the Note 4?
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Most people agree and you can google for more assurance that they charged faster than the oem note 3 chargers. Im not exactly sure how fast it charges compared to this new "fast charging technology" but literally they charge so quick because of the ratings INPUT - 100-240V OUTPUT - 5V 1.8A. I dont even use my oem note 4 charger, i just have one of these in each room and they are perfect. Just ebay 1.8a blackberry playbook oem charger. The wire is pretty long too so thats great.
Edit: i have nothing to do with this ebay post or anything like that but here is what youre looking for. Just look around on ebay you will see people who have them in 3x or 5x bundles for like under 15.00
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Bla...234?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad3b7f4ca

If you want a charger that charges the same as the cable that came with your phone, you'll need one that is Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 compliant. Click the link below to see a list of chargers that Qualcomm has officially certified.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge

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If you want a charger that charges the same as the cable that came with your phone, you'll need one that is Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 compliant. Click the link below to see a list of chargers that Qualcomm has officially certified.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
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Correct. The Motorola turbo chargers are the same thing just a different name. So you can use those as well.
As for the charger ratings. It actually needs to be 9volts 1.67amps. To quick charge. And also it needs to be able to change to 5v 2amps. Because quick charge actually changes voltage and amperage in the middle of charging and slows down in order to protect the battery.
-Wizzle

Any update on this? Anyone find an official rapid charger?

Anyone scared that fast charging all the time is going to ruin their battery?

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Anyone scared that fast charging all the time is going to ruin their battery?
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In today's world.. its totally worth it. I wouldnt mind buying another battery in a few months to have my phone charged in an hour all the time.

someonexh said:
In today's world.. its totally worth it. I wouldnt mind buying another battery in a few months to have my phone charged in an hour all the time.
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That's true. As long as it slows down when it gets up to a certain percent it's probably not that bad anyway

You can always just buy another one and swap it out though
Deals for batteries sometimes go around 30 bucks so it isn't that bad. I usually buy 2 anyways so I can have one just in case, but I don't think that will be an issue with the fast charging on this phone.

I ended up buying the Verizon Fast Charge chargers. confirmed to work with fastcharge as they're basically quickcharge 2.0 chargers.
I bought the Car charger and a wall charger. Normal price is $35.00 apiece.

found one on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Charger-Universal-Cradles/dp/B00N34UCOY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1417559543&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+note+4+charger
However I'd get this: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Dual-Port-Charger-Portable-Technology/dp/B00B8L36A6/ref=sr_1_4_det?srs=2528932011&ie=UTF8&qid=1417559770&sr=8-4#productPromotions

Anyone check monoprice? Hands down best place for cheap chords

Here's the official one from motorola
www.motorola.com/us/accessories-bat...Turbo-Charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
Also you can use HTC rapid chargers.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/979111276...3PZ7&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
Or the car charger
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P9UILU...M3EQ&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
-Wizzle