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[Q] Best audio codec considering limited space?

Hello,
I just switched from an HTC Raider to a Galaxy Nexus and so far, I love it, except that there's no MicroSD slot, therefore limiting a bit the space available for music.
I have about 13 GB of music, which barely fits on the phone. They're mostly all MP3 196 kbps. What I'd like to do is convert my library to a different format in order to have at least some space for my apps and other stuff on my phone.
Is there any better format I should use? I'd ideally like to reduce the size while not losing too much quality. I, honestly, am quite a noob in terms of audio codecs.
I've checked .ogg but it doesn't seem to do that much of a difference in terms of file size (went from 4.26 MB to 4.06 MB).
Thanks!

If you're already at 196 any further compression would result in terrible sound quality. You'd have to select a smaller bit rate (no less than 128) and reencode from a high quality source like flac wave or best the original source.
Otherwise, you might just have to pick some to leave out, or create some rotating playlists so you can listen to something different every week or something.
Or look into Subsonic music streaming server and run that on your home machine. Then you have access to all no matter where you are.
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Why don't you load that music to the cloud (online) and stream it to the phone using the stock music player. The stock music player on 4.0 supports streaming music unlike the older versions so you can save space on your phone.
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+1
Getting Google music setup at first with all your music can take a while ..ESP if you are like me and have to have correct album art ..no duplicates ..etc . But once its there it actually sounds great when streamed with high quality turned on.
And saves all that space!
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I thought about streaming, but I recently changed wireless carriers and went from 6 GB of data per month to 500 MB, so I have to be extra careful (I activated 3 days ago and I'm already about to go over, so imagine with music).
I hate creating playlists or changing music every so often, I usually get random trips throughtout the day and want to listen to a specific song. I guess I'll have to make due with that, though.
Thanks for your help y'all!

Try to convert to eAAC+. This codec have the best quality/bitrate-ratio.
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blockbusta said:
Try to convert to eAAC+. This codec have the best quality/bitrate-ratio.
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I'll check this out, thank you!

I convert all my FLAC to 150k AAC (variable bitrate)
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blockbusta said:
Try to convert to eAAC+. This codec have the best quality/bitrate-ratio.
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I've just converted 1 063 songs from 11.3 GB down to 1.72 GB, and quality is still more than decent.
The compression rate is simply retarded, I now feel like my 16 GB phone turned into a 160 GB iPod, just because of that codec lol
Thanks again dude, really appreciated!

lucas.scott said:
+1
Getting Google music setup at first with all your music can take a while ..ESP if you are like me and have to have correct album art ..no duplicates ..etc . But once its there it actually sounds great when streamed with high quality turned on.
And saves all that space!
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Its great but pulling data all day with data caps and its a battery drainer doesnt add huge cons.

Actually...
Not THAT good, I hadn't tried any bass heavy songs, but just did and doesn't sound too well. I'll try to convert to eAAC+ again but at a higher rate.
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cedrikfd said:
I've just converted 1 063 songs from 11.3 GB down to 1.72 GB, and quality is still more than decent.
The compression rate is simply retarded, I now feel like my 16 GB phone turned into a 160 GB iPod, just because of that codec lol
Thanks again dude, really appreciated!
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Do all players support it?

cedrikfd said:
Actually...
Not THAT good, I hadn't tried any bass heavy songs, but just did and doesn't sound too well. I'll try to convert to eAAC+ again but at a higher rate.
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let us know how you make out i'm interested in the results ... I was pretty sure AAC was the only real alternative to mp3 in a lossy codec, it produces a smaller in size file with a higher quality ... you probably have to set the bit rate about the same or slightly less than 192kbs

adrynalyne said:
Do all players support it?
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I don't know if all players supports it, but the Music 4.0 from Google does. I would assume something like PowerAMP or WinAMP supports it as well (I converted them through WinAMP on my PC)
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cedrikfd said:
Actually...
Not THAT good, I hadn't tried any bass heavy songs, but just did and doesn't sound too well. I'll try to convert to eAAC+ again but at a higher rate.
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eAAC+ is ALWAYS going to sound like **** at any bitrate if you have ears.
Use something like 150K LC-AAC ("normal" AAC)

Matt08642 said:
eAAC+ is ALWAYS going to sound like **** at any bitrate if you have ears.
Use something like 150K LC-AAC ("normal" AAC)
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he probably has ears! lol
here is a good read to draw a conclusion from
http://www.musicbanter.com/general-...mats-mp3-ogg-m4a-etc-quality-comparisons.html

blowtorch said:
he probably has ears! lol
here is a good read to draw a conclusion from
http://www.musicbanter.com/general-...mats-mp3-ogg-m4a-etc-quality-comparisons.html
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tl;dr: Use a modern codec (Ogg Vorbis, AAC, LAME MP3) at a bitrate >128Kbps

I've converted my mp3 files to HE-AAC (eaac+) 64kbps with great results!

cedrikfd said:
I've just converted 1 063 songs from 11.3 GB down to 1.72 GB, and quality is still more than decent.
The compression rate is simply retarded, I now feel like my 16 GB phone turned into a 160 GB iPod, just because of that codec lol
Thanks again dude, really appreciated!
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Which bitrate are you using? 48 kbps?

Did anyone find that note 2 makes obvious noise when you are using stock headphone?

It really bothers me when I am using stock headphone to enjoy music or play game or watch movie,especially at quiet environment. It is very obvious to make me not notice it. I dont complain the audio quality or headphone quality. It is just the opposite that I think both of them are better than I thought. But noise ruin them. I searched this issue via google and I find out a lot of people who bought note 2 experience the same problem. Some people find if using headphones that have high Ω （at least >32）can solve this problem.......Omz. Is poweamp able to solve this problem? Help....
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I think it's an issue with the headphones rather than the device itself tbh. Did you try out some other headphones?

I tried my another headphone AKG K420. Same result.....I think the problem is device itself.
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Alexsandra said:
I tried my another headphone AKG K420. Same result.....I think the problem is device itself.
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What kind of source are you using? I mean are you using FLAC files or mp3 at 128Kbs. To test it, take a music DVD known to be well recorded and rip it into a FLAC file then listen to it.
Files taken from the internet can be misleading. Some people will take their old 128Kbs mp3 and repack them as 320Kbs so the files seems very high quality but there is no difference between the 128 and the 320 since the 320 comes from a 128Kbs

Kremata said:
What kind of source are you using? I mean are you using FLAC files or mp3 at 128Kbs. To test it, take a music DVD known to be well recorded and rip it into a FLAC file then listen to it.
Files taken from the internet can be misleading. Some people will take their old 128Kbs mp3 and repack them as 320Kbs so the files seems very high quality but there is no difference between the 128 and the 320 since the 320 comes from a 128Kbs
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I have a lot of lossless music to play. The problem source is device itself. Even I use any apps that can make sound, I hear noise very clearly with stock headphone.
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DAC advantage besides built in speakers/headphones?

It's nice to see HTC did an effort to enhance sound, but is there any advantage with the M10 when using chromecast or bluetooth to stream audio?

HTC's also always sound the best over bluetooth. Historically, they were one of the only ones that supported apt-x. I dont know if the 10 is compatible with apt-x HD now.. But I'm assuming it is, as thats 24-bit streaming.

Is there any scenario in wich the phones hardware will influence the sound quality when casting to or via chromecast audio ?

I'm also curious how Bluetooth audio quality is on the 10
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This review just show up
http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/14/htc-10-review/

Boneslammer said:
Is there any scenario in wich the phones hardware will influence the sound quality when casting to or via chromecast audio ?
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No, as the chromecast is doing the work.

PowerAmp Settings

Anyone got a good configuration for PowerAmp? I think PowerAmp provides a better overall experience, but, google play is clearer. Would appreciate any recommendations
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If you haven't already done so sign up for the alpha:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/8810-poweramp-alpha-build-703/
The most recent changelog:
Alpha-3:
- added DVC support for Hi-Res Snapdragon 24-bit PCM variant (e.g. LG Gx/v10, HTC A9, etc.)

Just start with everything neutral and go from there. It really depends on headphones too. I have sennheiser Momentums and currently use the Techno preset. I feel like it gives good bass but doesn't overdo it on the treble.
Patiently waiting for Maximus to come to the HTC 10

I saw a video on YouTube that had a good EQ.
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Soooo... any Presets for the Alpha for the Speakers?

Electronic Punk said:
If you haven't already done so sign up for the alpha:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/8810-poweramp-alpha-build-703/
The most recent changelog:
Alpha-3:
- added DVC support for Hi-Res Snapdragon 24-bit PCM variant (e.g. LG Gx/v10, HTC A9, etc.)
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I haven't used the alpha but I purchased power amp a few years ago and it has been the absolute best music app I have ever used on HTC devices since boom sound was introduced. I had no idea that they had an alpha version. I have a pair of Sennheiser HD 558 headphones and I can make them sound absolutely awesome with custom EQ settings in power amp. The combination of the Dolby enhancement within HTC's phones just puts it over the top I use the HTC in ear setting then I overlay the power amp EQ on top of that. You can really create some amazing sound when you combine an HTC phone that has been sound with power amp

I downloaded the alpha build. After I configured it liked I wanted it and man if you think the normal PowerAMP sounds good, the alpha is like 2 times better. Highest quality sound I've ever heard, no lie.
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Haldi4803 said:
Soooo... any Presets for the Alpha for the Speakers?
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I've been messing around with it but I'm not going to share any presets as sound is so subjective.
Personally I dropped 31Hz all the way down to, what is it, -10 because reasons. Why waste amp power for that..
Otherwise I just gave the mid-upper bass a small bump and yanked the highs down a smidgen.
As an example 80's pop/dance-pop/whatever sounds really nice, I was listening to GTA VC Flash FM sound track earlier today.

DTS Sound Enhancement - How useful?

The honor 8 Pro has got DTS Sound Enhancement. It is available when you watch a video (and I believe listen to audio). But it seems to only be a simple "on/ off" thingy. Nothing much to customise.
Just wondering how useful is this then, to the consumer?
honor can market and put the DTS branding, but is it really useful?
And you guys did notice this option/ feature, right?

mydragoon said:
The honor 8 Pro has got DTS Sound Enhancement. It is available when you watch a video (and I believe listen to audio). But it seems to only be a simple "on/ off" thingy. Nothing much to customise.
Just wondering how useful is this then, to the consumer?
honor can market and put the DTS branding, but is it really useful?
And you guys did notice this option/ feature, right?
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It only enhances the bass , nothing else , good for listening old movie songs ,but didn't hear any noticeable difference or quality regarding daily music

mydragoon said:
The honor 8 Pro has got DTS Sound Enhancement. It is available when you watch a video (and I believe listen to audio). But it seems to only be a simple "on/ off" thingy. Nothing much to customise.
Just wondering how useful is this then, to the consumer?
honor can market and put the DTS branding, but is it really useful?
And you guys did notice this option/ feature, right?
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Not much useful. Just improves bass a little.
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runuc said:
It only enhances the bass , nothing else , good for listening old movie songs ,but didn't hear any noticeable difference or quality regarding daily music
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K.khiladi said:
Not much useful. Just improves bass a little.
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ya, just as i feared. it seems more like a glamorous "super bass" option. i was actually hoping for more like surround-type effect, etc...
so, when i tried it out with some videos, naturally, kinda disappointed.
we don't even get an equalizer for this...

mydragoon said:
ya, just as i feared. it seems more like a glamorous "super bass" option. i was actually hoping for more like surround-type effect, etc...
so, when i tried it out with some videos, naturally, kinda disappointed.
we don't even get an equalizer for this...
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Maybe they should give something OTA an equaliser or surround sound enhancer in future because in the past I tried these effects from the store ,in my older devices , didn't worked accordingly

runuc said:
Maybe they should give something OTA an equaliser or surround sound enhancer in future because in the past I tried these effects from the store ,in my older devices , didn't worked accordingly
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ya, let's hope honor can expand on this. otherwise, seems kinda "under-optimised" feature.

mydragoon said:
ya, just as i feared. it seems more like a glamorous "super bass" option. i was actually hoping for more like surround-type effect, etc...
so, when i tried it out with some videos, naturally, kinda disappointed.
we don't even get an equalizer for this...
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It's not even super bass for me. It's like an ok ok feature.
If only they could improve the sound through the earphone jack, it would be good.
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mydragoon said:
The honor 8 Pro has got DTS Sound Enhancement. It is available when you watch a video (and I believe listen to audio). But it seems to only be a simple "on/ off" thingy. Nothing much to customise.
Just wondering how useful is this then, to the consumer?
honor can market and put the DTS branding, but is it really useful?
And you guys did notice this option/ feature, right?
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Nothing much , u can feel the change in music app just some bass and clarity will increases a little bit.