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I got my shiny new ZL C6506 on Friday morning and by Friday afternoon I already had a few pretty good scratches on the screen. This only got worse over the weekend. I assumed it was gorilla glass but sure enough I look on gsmarena.com at the specs and its scratch-resistant and shatter-proof glass. I guess I will have to start checking this before I buy phones from now on. I just assumed a $600 phone would have better glass. Otherwise, I love the phone. This is the first factory unlocked phone I have been able to find that has AT&T LTE bands.
colts187 said:
I got my shiny new ZL C6506 on Friday morning and by Friday afternoon I already had a few pretty good scratches on the screen. This only got worse over the weekend. I assumed it was gorilla glass but sure enough I look on gsmarena.com at the specs and its scratch-resistant and shatter-proof glass. I guess I will have to start checking this before I buy phones from now on. I just assumed a $600 phone would have better glass. Otherwise, I love the phone. This is the first factory unlocked phone I have been able to find that has AT&T LTE bands.
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why don't you put that thin layer that guards the screen. I have an xperia arc (yeah, old phone), I have it since 7 months and my screen doesn't have a single scratch, yet.
blakstar said:
why don't you put that thin layer that guards the screen. I have an xperia arc (yeah, old phone), I have it since 7 months and my screen doesn't have a single scratch, yet.
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I did think about it but I've had a Note 2 for months and it barely has a scratch on it. I haven't had a phone scratch this easily since my Galaxy Nexus, its probably a similar glass.
Why don't you remove the preinstalled "screen protector" if you got scratches on it?
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OP, are you sure the glass itself has scratched or does it have a preinstalled SP on it?
Regardless of which glass it is, it will scratch. I have had plenty of phones with GG2 and though not immediately visible, under a strong light, you can see plenty of micro scratches when looked at from a particular angle. I hate putting on SPs myself, but as of now, theres no phone with a glass that wont scratch.
They should learn to reach things before they post. What they have scratched is the screen protector on the screen that it came withpreinstalled. I'm using nothing but the preinstalled protector but I haven't scratched it yet.
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Why don't you remove the preinstalled "screen protector" if you got scratches on it?
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I second this. The 6506 comes with a pre-installed screen protector (look closely & you'll see it) -- your scratches are probably in that, rather than on the actual glass. I've had my 6506 for nearly 2 weeks now and I have no scratches on it anywhere.
The only thing that it seems the 6502/3 (?) comes with that the 6506 does not is an extra screen protector in the box. It just has the one pre-installed. If you look near the edges of the glass, you'll probably notice that you can see the edge of the screen protector. I've been tempted to remove it and replace it with something a bit nicer, but I haven't thus far, and haven't had any real problems.
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I second this. The 6506 comes with a pre-installed screen protector (look closely & you'll see it) -- your scratches are probably in that, rather than on the actual glass. I've had my 6506 for nearly 2 weeks now and I have no scratches on it anywhere.
The only thing that it seems the 6502/3 (?) comes with that the 6506 does not is an extra screen protector in the box. It just has the one pre-installed. If you look near the edges of the glass, you'll probably notice that you can see the edge of the screen protector. I've been tempted to remove it and replace it with something a bit nicer, but I haven't thus far, and haven't had any real problems.
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You are correct, I did not receive an extra screen protector with my c6503.
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Sorry I didn't realize it had a screen protector preinstalled. I didn't see anywhere that it stated it had a screen protector on it. I wonder if that is what is affecting the viewing angles. I don't want to remove it to find out. Thanks guys
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Sorry I didn't realize it had a screen protector preinstalled. I didn't see anywhere that it stated it had a screen protector on it. I wonder if that is what is affecting the viewing angles. I don't want to remove it to find out. Thanks guys
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What is affecting the viewing angles is the screen itself. No SP makes the screen look washed out from an angle, the privacy ones just dim it out
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You are correct, I did not receive an extra screen protector with my c6503.
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I think he meant to say that the 6503/6502 comes with an additional SP. But from your comment it seems like the 6503 does not. Mine came with one. I have a 6502 though :cyclops:
I want to remove my SP (I have an Xperia arc though). Can I use the SP as a stylus pen, because there are many tutorials on how to make a stylus pen from a screen protector
I think you'll find Sony had used dragontail glass on the ZL. If so it won't scratch easy. Sure the screen protector will though strange move from Sony even if it's shatter proof protection.
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What is affecting the viewing angles is the screen itself. No SP makes the screen look washed out from an angle, the privacy ones just dim it out
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wrong the good privacy display protection changes the viewing angle a lot!! And thats ment to be!
I checked a few! And e.g. if u r sitting in a plane with a good protection the guy beside u cannot see a **** of your display..)
The cheap only dim...)
the factory installed sheet is not a regular screen protector but a "Shatter Proof Sheet" which can be easily scratched. some users report that in XZ, the SONY logo is printed on this sheet.
below are the links for these cases.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/03/2...-the-xperia-z-screen-protector-sony-logo-too/
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/450944#450944
Rob1972 said:
wrong the good privacy display protection changes the viewing angle a lot!! And thats ment to be!
I checked a few! And e.g. if u r sitting in a plane with a good protection the guy beside u cannot see a **** of your display..)
The cheap only dim...)
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I think you misunderstood, or I couldnt explain well. Privacy SP dont wash out your display when looked at from an angle. You cannot see anything because they dim it out completely. Not make it appear all white.
If you remove the shatter proof screen protector you need an oleophobic coating on it or it will be filled with fingerprint in no time. A simple method to do so is using rain repellant on car windshield, something like RainX will do just fine
The anti-shatter film on my ZL didn't last a day without scratching. The fabric of my back pocket (denim) is too stressful for it. So, is Sony going to void my warranty if I remove it and replace it with a the Skinomi I ordered on day 1?
Note: the screen on my gen 1 Galaxy S took the same treatment for 3 years without a scratch.
Can I buy another anti-shatter film from Sony?
I have got my C6502 with not installed protector and spended about 3 hours to install is myself.
I have almost damaged the protector.
Talked to Sony
Called Xperia support. and Sony Store. It took 4 calls total because they kept passing the buck to each other.
I had to get at least one rep to Google the coating before they even believed that it existed.
And, of course, from there, they assume removing it voids the warranty...
...not because they've been told by Sony ... but because they think so.
They all seem to agree, however, that carrying a phone in your back pocket for a few days without it scratching is a reasonable expectation.
I'd love to know the engineering rationale behind this stupid coating.
I CAN'T be "keeping manufacturing cost down" with a $760 retail price.
For that, it should have Gorilla or Dragontail glass.
If it does have it, then it should be fine to remove the film.
You'd think Sony would have trained their staff on this. It HAS to have come up by now.
I got 2 Xperia ZLs, C6502 black and white few days ago for me and my wife. One bought through Newegg and the other from Amazon. Neither came with extra screen protector.
Since the ZL already comes with a decent one on it, (the sony logo is actually on the screen protector.) I don't see the point in getting one. I just bought a zaggshield but didnt like how it changed the feel of my device so I trashed it. I considered this one which is a thin actual glass shield,
http://www.spigen.com/sony-xperia-z-screen-protector-glas-t-premium-tempered-glass.html but even on the review featured on the ordering page they said it did add some weight since it's glass and collect some dust around the edges which is understandable. Simply put, I dont think the ZL really needs a screen protector, obviously it will help and in the case of the glass shield above, take the brunt of impact if you drop it but otherwise I think the stock shield is decent enough, thoughts?
The ZL's anti-shatter film that you're referring to scratches really easily. I actually sent mine back because of it. Putting a Skinomi over the film from day one solved the problem on the new one.
I think you should put a second on top, because the already applied scratches easily. And the Sony logo is NOT on the screen protector.
The XZ does have the logo on the screen protector, XZL doesn't.
Get a protector that's oleophobic.
The grease marks are unbearable on the standard protector.
Actually the factory applied screen protector does not have the Sony logo, the Sony logo is in below the glass itself, I know because I removed it to apply a Krussell one, which is by the way not bad at all, it adds a softer, kind of couchy feeling to the screen. I didn't like how easily scratched the stock one could be, now this one is good but I still get the fingerprints, I am looking for a new, oleo-phobic one.
EDIT: The rumor about the logo being applied on the screen protector came from some Xperia Z (not the ZL) having it printed on the screen protector, but again they were preproduction units, I have yet to see an actual production unit with that kind of screen protector.
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Actually the factory applied screen protector does not have the Sony logo, the Sony logo is in below the glass itself, I know because I removed it to apply a Krussell one, which is by the way not bad at all, it adds a softer, kind of couchy feeling to the screen. I didn't like how easily scratched the stock one could be, now this one is good but I still get the fingerprints, I am looking for a new, oleo-phobic one.
EDIT: The rumor about the logo being applied on the screen protector came from some Xperia Z (not the ZL) having it printed on the screen protector, but again they were preproduction units, I have yet to see an actual production unit with that kind of screen protector.
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The production Z has the Sony Logo on the anti-shatter film - mine's a week old.
Can you prove that the ASF on the ZL does NOT have the Logo on it? Reason for asking is there are conflicting claims that it is and it isn't. Cheers.
Who cares about a logo really? haha
anyone have a tutorial to remove it?
LenAsh said:
The production Z has the Sony Logo on the anti-shatter film - mine's a week old.
Can you prove that the ASF on the ZL does NOT have the Logo on it? Reason for asking is there are conflicting claims that it is and it isn't. Cheers.
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I removed the screen protector and the logo is NOT ON THE SCREEN PROTECTOR IS WRITTEN ON THE GLASS
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NumberSign said:
Who cares about a logo really? haha
anyone have a tutorial to remove it?
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Google it
LenAsh said:
The production Z has the Sony Logo on the anti-shatter film - mine's a week old.
Can you prove that the ASF on the ZL does NOT have the Logo on it? Reason for asking is there are conflicting claims that it is and it isn't. Cheers.
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I know because I just did that, I removed the original screen protector and the logo remained on the glass.
hello guys
i just wanna ask if i can use The Glass-M Tempered Glass of "Xperia Z" to my new phone " xperia Z1" because i can't find Z1 Glass-M yet in my country
thanks in advance :victory:
Nagato21006 said:
hello guys
i just wanna ask if i can use The Glass-M Tempered Glass of "Xperia Z" to my new phone " xperia Z1" because i can't find Z1 Glass-M yet in my country
thanks in advance :victory:
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Z1 is larger than Xperia Z so the protector will not cover the whole screen
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Z1 is larger than Xperia Z so the protector will not cover the whole screen
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even if they both were 5 inches ? :crying:
Yes as the bezel around the z1 is longer. So you will have a gap either on the top or bottom
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Nagato21006 said:
even if they both were 5 inches ? :crying:
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Plus the camera is on the top left, remember that
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thank you guys :good:
Yea i bought the Z front + back like a fool, i would have sworn i was looking at the right one, but i cut the warranty seal as soon as i got it xD.
I ordered the one for the Z1 and im about to put it on, looks awesome. i still want one for the back though, the glass just feels much better then urethane, although the urethane has a more rugged feel for the back, as it flexes and does not shatter.
crusnikmachine said:
Yea i bought the Z front + back like a fool, i would have sworn i was looking at the right one, but i cut the warranty seal as soon as i got it xD.
I ordered the one for the Z1 and im about to put it on, looks awesome. i still want one for the back though, the glass just feels much better then urethane, although the urethane has a more rugged feel for the back, as it flexes and does not shatter.
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They are nicer for the grip but don't look nearly as good. But they don't add thickness. I just got my glass protector for the back and want to see if it will fit in my dock with the glass-m on the front and this generic one on the back.
After removing sony's screen protector, how do I clean the glass and remove any glue left?
Is it safe to remove it and keep the glass exposed while I wait for the new protector?
I would wait till you get it. My glass m took about 2 weeks (or felt like it) to come. I read some one washed it with soapy water. But I left it on. Glass m comes with a wipe cloth and pre sticker for dust. I done mine in bathroom when it was steamy
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dazza7111 said:
I would wait till you get it. My glass m took about 2 weeks (or felt like it) to come. I read some one washed it with soapy water. But I left it on. Glass m comes with a wipe cloth and pre sticker for dust. I done mine in bathroom when it was steamy
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my protector is already scratched, so I am gonna remove it...
What I heard ina nice video, once you peel it off, is not to use any cotton cloth, as it may stick on the glue, but to use instead a micro-fiber + spary glass cleaner
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my protector is already scratched, so I am gonna remove it...
What I heard ina nice video, once you peel it off, is not to use any cotton cloth, as it may stick on the glue, but to use instead a micro-fiber + spary glass cleaner
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Yep and you might want to dip your fingers in a liquid soap and water so you can touch the back without leaving fingerprints. Also if you get soap water between the phone and protector it will let you position the glass before you press it down.
I like how i don't need to turn off the phone at any point lolz.
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Yep and you might want to dip your fingers in a liquid soap and water so you can touch the back without leaving fingerprints. Also if you get soap water between the phone and protector it will let you position the glass before you press it down.
I like how i don't need to turn off the phone at any point lolz.
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Sorry but I do not get what you mean...
What's the problem with fingerprints at the bac? i am not changing the film at the back.
Do i need to wet the glass before positioning the new film?
What do you mean with your last sentence?
i purchased 2 tempered glass screen protector so far, all chipped off after few days of using it. super fragile and chip off when slight drop or bump.
Do yourself a favor and get the Spigen glass protector. Their products are wonderful and high quality, albeit a little more expensive.
cosine83 said:
Do yourself a favor and get the Spigen glass protector. Their products are wonderful and high quality, albeit a little more expensive.
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I heard people having issues with Spigen applying properly so I went and ordered a Glass-M last night. I'm hoping MIME releases their Ghost GLass for the Z1 soon. I emailed them and this is what I got back:
Hi Pavel,
Thanks for reaching out to us about this! We are currently gauging interest for the Z1. If we receive enough requests we will definitely make it happen
Best,
MIME
> From: Pavel
> Subject: Ghost Glass for Z1
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> Message Body:
> Hello,
> I was wondering if you're planning on releasing your Ghost Glass Product for the Sony Xperia Z1. Thank you,
> Pavel
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> This mail is sent via contact page on MIME USA http://mimeusa.com
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I heard people having issues with Spigen applying properly so I went and ordered a Glass-M last night. I'm hoping MIME releases their Ghost GLass for the Z1 soon. I emailed them and this is what I got back:
Hi Pavel,
Thanks for reaching out to us about this! We are currently gauging interest for the Z1. If we receive enough requests we will definitely make it happen
Best,
MIME
> From: Pavel
> Subject: Ghost Glass for Z1
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> Message Body:
> Hello,
> I was wondering if you're planning on releasing your Ghost Glass Product for the Sony Xperia Z1. Thank you,
> Pavel
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> This mail is sent via contact page on MIME USA http://mimeusa.com
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I've used Spigen a couple times on my GS4 with no application issues. Why a couple times? Dropping from 6ft up or more on to cleverly placed rocks and corners of raised floor plates hitting the glass just right after several months of great protection. You literally clean the phone off, make sure there's no dust and slap it on.
Little bit off topic, but i wondered if these glass screen protectors designed for the z1 would fit on the z1s from t-mobile? z1s supposedly a little longer but i am not sure if it's the bezel or sides
LaosPerson said:
Little bit off topic, but i wondered if these glass screen protectors designed for the z1 would fit on the z1s from t-mobile? z1s supposedly a little longer but i am not sure if it's the bezel or sides
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Doubtful. The placement of the FFC and proximity/light sensors are swapped between models so the hole for the sensors are on the opposite side that they need to be on for the Z1s.
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Doubtful. The placement of the FFC and proximity/light sensors are swapped between models so the hole for the sensors are on the opposite side that they need to be on for the Z1s.
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Yeah I realized that so I would have to get the glass protector with no holes cut out
Here is my Nillkin Amazing H+ tempered glass review, complete with scratch test and installation instructions on Sony Xperia Z1.
Video is timetagged so you can jump to the section of interest:
00:00 Box Contents
01:03 How to apply? - Fitting on Sony Xperia Z1
04:05 Scratch Test
04:55 Conclusion
I'll get this screen protector for my new xiaomi mi3, so thank for your review, you helped me to made my choice
This looks amazing!
I found one on eBay for 12€.. I might buy it.
Is there any downside from using this screen protector?
Thanks a lot.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nillkin-9H-Hardness-Tempered-Glass-Front-Clear-Back-Protectors-for-Xperia-Z1-/261360379196?pt=US_Tablet_eReader_Screen_Protectors&hash=item3cda4ae53c
Thank you for your amazing review!
No real downside other than you really have to do your best to apply it perfectly the first time. Very difficult to remove and reapply without getting it dirty.
Love how it feels, so smooth. I wish I got it sooner, before the Sony screen protector started getting scratches. Never using a film protector ever again.
My C6906 came with a nilkin glass screen protector when I bought it off of swappa, and using the way I typically apply screen protectors, using tape like a hinge to perfectly position the protector with, application took less than a minute. My only complaint is that the glass is not oleophobic, or at least isn't as oleophobic as I would like, although it doesn't get fingerprints all that easily, and a few wipes on your jeans should take care of it just fine.
i bought this screen protector for CNY 58 (about USD 9.5). Much better than any PET films I have seen.
DefunctiO said:
This looks amazing!
I found one on eBay for 12€.. I might buy it.
Is there any downside from using this screen protector?
Thanks a lot.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nillkin-9H-Hardness-Tempered-Glass-Front-Clear-Back-Protectors-for-Xperia-Z1-/261360379196?pt=US_Tablet_eReader_Screen_Protectors&hash=item3cda4ae53c
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Only downside is that come with with a PET back protector and I found the anti-fingerprint coating wore off faster than most, it's also is a bit small and doesn't cover the whole front wish it was more precise fitting.
If you apply this screen protector the Z1 will do not fit on your dock DK31.
Do I insert it over sony's protector or do I have to remove that first?
gohabs93 said:
Do I insert it over sony's protector or do I have to remove that first?
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You can safely place it over the Sony's protector. That's what I did in the video and it stayed on since than no problem.
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Do I insert it over sony's protector or do I have to remove that first?
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It's recommended to do not remove the anti-shatter Sony protector so you can apply this Nillkin on it.
Great Thanks! I just bought one!
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Do I insert it over sony's protector or do I have to remove that first?
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Either way. It's up to you to remove the shatter film or put the t-glass on top of it
its wicked man this is perfect feeling just like my s3 with this on also so smoooooth
I have this Nillkin SP and it's the best SP I ever had, on all devices.
Perfectly slik and ultra durable...
I have it few months and not a one scratch.
But...
I bought front and back and I'm kinda disappointed because only front is real tempered glass, back one is just a plain SP...
It would be awesome to have back tempered glass as well.
And yeah...I applied it on top of Sony SP (had few little scratches on it) and it's perfect - can't see a single old scratch...
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with this installed, will the ultra thin aluminum bumper fit well?
Nillkin Tempered glass cracked on its own!
I installed a Nillkin tempered glass a month ago. Recently, the screen just cracked on its own. No impact or poor handling whatsoever. I guess it is just poor quality product in premium packing. Really disappointed that such bad quality can come from Nilkin .....
koj012 said:
I installed a Nillkin tempered glass a month ago. Recently, the screen just cracked on its own. No impact or poor handling whatsoever. I guess it is just poor quality product in premium packing. Really disappointed that such bad quality can come from Nilkin .....
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I have been using Nillkin for a while now and have never experiences such problem. My first protector cracked after I dropped the phone face down on my desk. Now I am on my second one and it functions properly. Maybe you didn't align yours properly or you had a faulty unit.
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@shem2409
Hi there.. I was considering buying the Nillkin glass, and I was wondering if you noticed any scuff marks or scratches on glass surface while using the DK31 magentic charger? (assuming you use one).
Thanks!
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Hey guys,
has anyone experienced an "oily" Effect on his display with the original film from oneplus on it. I don't mean fingerprints, my phone is completely clean but some area's just don't look like they are. Is this effect from the film or is my display broken?
I could rip the film off but then I have to get an new one :/
Thank you in advance
Mulayan said:
Hey guys,
has anyone experienced an "oily" Effect on his display with the original film from oneplus on it. I don't mean fingerprints, my phone is completely clean but some area's just don't look like they are. Is this effect from the film or is my display broken?
I could rip the film off but then I have to get an new one :/
Thank you in advance
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Just pull the film off and run your screen naked. It feels great.
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Just pull the film off and run your screen naked. It feels great.
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I had a HTC One m7 before and after using it 3 years it had so many tiny scratches.
I don't want this to happen with my op3, too.. I always wear them in my pocket, never with a key or anything in it, but the film already has some of those tiny scratches.
Mulayan said:
I had a HTC One m7 before and after using it 3 years it had so many tiny scratches.
I don't want this to happen with my op3, too.. I always wear them in my pocket, never with a key or anything in it, but the film already has some of those tiny scratches.
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get a better quality screen film, or a tempered glass
2x4 said:
get a better quality screen film, or a tempered glass
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Can you recommend one? I only hear people complain about the ones out there on the marked.
Hey dude, IV tried 5 different tempered glass protectors and found the nilkin + to be the best. It doesn't cover full screen and the sides don't stick entirely but it's not even a big deal and it's the best you'll get for this phone at the moment
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Can you recommend one? I only hear people complain about the ones out there on the marked.
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Currently have it naked, keys and knives don't scratch the screen, be careful when you clean it tho, don't use any spray just a micro fiber should be enough. Plastic screen protectors catch a lot of smudges and scratches really easily. Naked or Tempered glass is currently the only option.