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Same page same wifi,
Notebook HTC desire
2.2GHz dual core 1GHz
4GB DDR3 576MB ram
added better video with more sites, and still, HTC Desire wins
Show a video erasing the cache on each browser before doing the test which would be fairer.
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i did this before video, i cleaned all task, cache and history, also htc desire was fresh boot.
You can try yourself...
well ... although i agree that the desire browser is really fast ... i have to say, your pc's chrome is terribly slow.
when i compare loading engadget in my chrome it doesn't even take half the time to load and it's way faster than my phone can do it
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Mondaro said:
well ... although i agree that the desire browser is really fast ... i have to say, your pc's chrome is terribly slow.
when i compare loading engadget in my chrome it doesn't even take half the time to load and it's way faster than my phone can do it
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maybe you are using desktop computer (and your cpu is 1,6GHz faster ) and faster internet, and also, you in Germany, so closer to server than me.
There's no doubt a PC or laptop is faster than the Desire. Comparing them makes no sense.
Tips to OP: try Opera Much faster than Chrome (on PC)
Oooh yeah here it comes... yes of course, opera is faster then Chrome.... of course....
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Zhypr said:
There's no doubt a PC or laptop is faster than the Desire. Comparing them makes no sense.
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Well, computer can do tones of jobs.
But phones are optimized to do certain jobs better, and browser is one of optimized programs. (This would be my guess)
Opera is faster than chrome and webkit
You don't have the same computer then he has, and chrome is faster. Next you probably didn't use same connection, and even if you did, your pc had privileges over the phone.
It would be completely fair if you'd compare 2 same speed wi-fi connections, and use slower PC. You simply can't put 2,86TFLOPS PC versus 40MFLOPS phone, right?
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And by the way, your desire is loading pages slower then his and mine.
Just to add to the conversation I have done some testing with browsers recently (Mainly Chrome/IE and Firefox)
And I must say Chrome is has some serious issues. For instance Firefox will load a page in less than a second and on the same machine Chrome will take about 20 seconds.
Also another bug I have noticed with Chrome it will intensivley hog the Ram useage and even CPU useage on certain machines. I first noticed this because one of our computers at home is rigged up to our 32" TV for watching stuff using WMP on the TV. Now the computer isn't high spec but reasonable and plays all these videos fine (from local hdd) but as soon as 1 Chrome page is open (1 tab) you will notice the video keeps pausing/jumping/skipping and in places become un-watchable and simply closing Chrome (without restarting the video) fixes the problem and you can see the ram and cpu drop dramatically even while still playing the video.
I don't know what is about Chrome but I have tested it on a few machines and got similar results (apart from one seemed to be ok) and Firefox has been the quickest out of my tests. Although IE sometimes (rarley) opened quicker the FF most of the time IE just crashes when you open it for the first time. Chrome opens very fast and normally the fastest to open but web browsing not always that quick and hogging system resources I stick to FF with no issues what so ever (apart from one crash in the last 2 months and when it re-opened all of my (10) tabs where open within 30 seconds and ready to go.
kilohercas said:
Well, computer can do tones of jobs.
But phones are optimized to do certain jobs better, and browser is one of optimized programs. (This would be my guess)
Opera is faster than chrome and webkit
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Opera on PC FTW
Opera mobile FTL
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Just to add to the conversation I have done some testing with browsers recently (Mainly Chrome/IE and Firefox).
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First of all I'm very happy with my stock browser in Desire.
As to the desktop browsers; I am totally agree with your comment on Chrome, it has issues and besides a ram and cpu monster. Firefox is working well but is slow especially at first launch. Have you ever tested Safari? It is my default browser since the day I hv installed and begun to use it.
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I have never had any of these issues you are talking about. my chrome is ridiculously fast, and does not eat more then 50MB RAM. By the time writing this(4tabs) it uses 8-11% of the CPU, and that's because of that annoying flash ad here -.-' (Now it's 0-4% when I scrolled down a bit)
There are only four problems I have experienced are these:
1.) Since first beta chrome starts up MUCH slower, but still MUCH MUCH faster then other browsers. But he can do now much MUCH more things of course
2.) The omnibox sometimes takes time to detect the site I want. Rarely.
3.) Sometimes(rarely) it "forgets" to auto-fill my login details, rarely but unfortunately on my most visited forums, that's these too =/
4.) It is too good for some people
Well, i am using only firefox, and it use just 20% of cpu (opening page)
So it would be like 0.9GHz 100% loaded cpu
HTC desire load pages by using 80~99% of cpu, so it same as desktop computer.
That's why HTC desire some times will load it quicker.
But if website is flash based, or have lot of java, it becomes quite slow.
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It would be completely fair if you'd compare 2 same speed wi-fi connections, and use slower PC. You simply can't put 2,86TFLOPS PC versus 40MFLOPS phone, right?
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Sorry mate, but Intel i7 extreme (6 cores) has only 0.1TFlops peak performance, not 2.86TFlops (with HT )
We are talking about overall PC performance. Besides, Core i7 may, maybe, have 0,1TFLOPS in linpack, but it's real performance is about 2,86TFLOPS. That perfectly fits with the 5TFLOPS HD5970
After a couple months of go between Chrome and Dolphin I've settled on Dolphin for a variety of reasons which I won't go into.
I recently installed add-ons for the first time (other than what comes default) and discovered the Dolphin Connect plug-in for Chrome so I can sync my Chrome bookmarks on my desktop with Dolphin on my phone. Hurray! However, one thing I've learned coming from iOS to Android is with most of these high-powered Android smartphones, you need to be more vigilant about watching battery consumption. Initially I found Poweramp to be running mediaserver related stuff in the background chewing up battery but that settled down in seems, maybe just took time for the phone/app to catalog/analyze or something my 3000 high bitrate aac files on my SD card. Others have said these phones' batteries sort of 'break in' (really I think it's an OS database issue with the OS doing stuff, not the physical battery breaking in.)
Anyway, sorry to get off on a tangent. Since enabling the Bookmark and Tab Sync on Dolphin and installing the Speed Test, LastPass, and Desktop mode switcher add-ons, I noticed a bit more battery usage so I took a look at usage a couple times with phone asleep for an hour or two and I find mobi.mgeek.TunnyBrowser in top 5 apps/processes for battery usage. This is when NOT using the phone AT ALL.
There's no info anywhere on this issue after last spring when apparently Dolphin was called "Dolphin HD". Then app store also has 'Dolphin Beta' which to my demise I found synced tabs but not bookmakrs (was having an issue Dolphin opening links to blank page - thought Beta was newer but saw date on App Store for Beta was older than non-Beta!) In a nut shell - their naming/version history is a bit confusing for a relatively new Android/Dolphin user.
I did see only one post somewhere saying the desktop mode switching add-on was eating background CPU. Huh? Anyway, I currently just do trial and error disabling one thing at a time to figure out specifically what in Dolphin is using CPU when the phone isn't in use. Also will need to see if exiting all the way out makes a difference.
I'm chatty today. Sorry. Hate to post this in a device specific forum too as this may not be specific to this device but no better place I guess?
I'm on the xda app so before I probably get flamed for asking a question I'm not even sure others have asked because there is no search function for topics your reading on or etc.... I have issues where my browser just closes out not force closes just closes and goes back to the home screen almost like android was clearing it for memory like I wasnt using it...it does the same when I'm in the browser and listening to music it constantly closes whatever I'm using to listen to music , is this just me ?or is there a way to fix it
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I'd bet flash is the problem. Try disabling it/using a browser without it. Ensuring you're not set to Desktop in preferences may help also. I mostly use Opera mobile with no flash and get very few crashes but also use Boat browser with flash set at desktop for some sites and it crashes all the time.
Another possibility is that it is hogging too much RAM, and just closes. I have had that happen when I have too many tabs open..
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I think its a memory problem aswell.
It happened alot to me when i was using maxthon, so i switched to the dolphin browser seems to do a better job at memory management then maxthon.
Also if you have a custom rom you can turn off the ram purging option in the performance settings menu.
There weren't the same problems with browser crashing in ICS, so it's not all memory. I generally believe RAM tweaking to be placebo; in my experience the only thing that improves low RAM problems in the real world is more RAM, however making sure you don't have a load of processes running in the background is key to good performance on this device. I freeze Google Maps when I'm not using it, switched from the Gmail app to Aqua Mail, freeze almost everything freezable in the system, auto kill startup at boot of many apps.
Fast Reboot is a handy little widget to free up RAM and let you know what's running. I usually have 100 to 140mb free RAM on TWA_Priv's latest and greatest.
Thanks for the Maxthon tip John, looks like a nice lightweight browser.
Are you using silk? If so that may be the problem. It's extremely sluggish and buggy.
Hi there
I have a Galaxy nexus on android 4.3 and running 3d games have lots of lag. For example, the game with the most amount of lag is Modern Combat 4 with the meltdown update. Is there a way to improve the gpu processor power on the phone so that itwouldboost the framerate? Its always about 5-15 fps and im so annoyed. If there is a solution, could you let me know? My galaxy nexus is not rooted.
Does it plays smoothly then, for no reason, it gets laggy for some seconds, then come back to play everything smoothly again, then repeats? Or it just keeps being laggy at all times?
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Does it plays smoothly then, for no reason, it gets laggy for some seconds, then come back to play everything smoothly again, then repeats? Or it just keeps being laggy at all times?
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It does exactly that, it plays smooth for 5 seconds then ridiculous lag for 10 seconds then repeats like a loop.
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It does exactly that, it plays smooth for 5 seconds then ridiculous lag for 10 seconds then repeats like a loop.
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What I'm gonna tell you now may be related to what what is happening with your device or not. It was my problem, so if it's not this I don't know what can be happening.
First, the galaxy nexus can downvote it's processors when it's too hot, although it's probably not that, just keep that in mind.
Anyway, go to settings - apps then "running apps" and check the used and free ram. If you have high RAM usage (like, 600 mbs being used) than this is probably the problem. While you're in the game, your gnexus will try to clean RAM for it, but since your gnexus is already out of RAM, it will force close background app's and services, but since those are required to run all the time, all that's going to happen is that they will keep being restarted, causing lag in the apps that are running.
To check if this is the problem, just check how much free ram you have free. If it's too low, open a game (even temple run 2 or sub way surfers will do), then when the game starts, go back to settings-app-running apps and check for things restarting.
If this is the problem, then you need to see what is the apps that are consuming all your RAM (although it can be android itself, just keep reading).
Just check what apps are in the running part of the "running apps". If you have a lot of apps running, then you can try freezing some of them or unnistalling the ones that consume more RAM. BUT! it may be that there's just too much RAM being consumed even though you have few apps running, in this case, the problem is android itself.
I don't know if this happens to android 4.3 itself, the gnexus's version of it or if it's some app causing it, but there's a memory leak that will eventually consume all your RAM. I'll use my case as an exemple: I have some common apps running on background (facebook, messenger, whatsapp, airdroid, 3d watchdog). If everything is normal, my "used RAM" keeps aroung 430mb~. Leaving almost 200mb~ free for apps to use. But after some days using my phone, the used ram will grow to 500, then 550, then 600mb, eventually to 630mbs.
Check if this is happening to you. To check, simply reboot your device, then when it boots, check how your RAM is being used.
If it was normal before the reboot (around 500mb, probably even less) and stay this way after the reboot, then your problem is another one, then I can't help you.
If your RAM was high and after the reboot it's still high, check your running apps.
If it's high but after the reboot it's back to normal, then you just "solved" your problem. Just keep rebooting daily.
If this was your problem, then enjoy your phone. If it's not, you can try checking some other things like the I/O speed (which was solved in android 4.3. Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852&highlight=trim ).
ygorvaz said:
What I'm gonna tell you now may be related to what what is happening with your device or not. It was my problem, so if it's not this I don't know what can be happening.
First, the galaxy nexus can downvote it's processors when it's too hot, although it's probably not that, just keep that in mind.
Anyway, go to settings - apps then "running apps" and check the used and free ram. If you have high RAM usage (like, 600 mbs being used) than this is probably the problem. While you're in the game, your gnexus will try to clean RAM for it, but since your gnexus is already out of RAM, it will force close background app's and services, but since those are required to run all the time, all that's going to happen is that they will keep being restarted, causing lag in the apps that are running.
To check if this is the problem, just check how much free ram you have free. If it's too low, open a game (even temple run 2 or sub way surfers will do), then when the game starts, go back to settings-app-running apps and check for things restarting.
If this is the problem, then you need to see what is the apps that are consuming all your RAM (although it can be android itself, just keep reading).
Just check what apps are in the running part of the "running apps". If you have a lot of apps running, then you can try freezing some of them or unnistalling the ones that consume more RAM. BUT! it may be that there's just too much RAM being consumed even though you have few apps running, in this case, the problem is android itself.
I don't know if this happens to android 4.3 itself, the gnexus's version of it or if it's some app causing it, but there's a memory leak that will eventually consume all your RAM. I'll use my case as an exemple: I have some common apps running on background (facebook, messenger, whatsapp, airdroid, 3d watchdog). If everything is normal, my "used RAM" keeps aroung 430mb~. Leaving almost 200mb~ free for apps to use. But after some days using my phone, the used ram will grow to 500, then 550, then 600mb, eventually to 630mbs.
Check if this is happening to you. To check, simply reboot your device, then when it boots, check how your RAM is being used.
If it was normal before the reboot (around 500mb, probably even less) and stay this way after the reboot, then your problem is another one, then I can't help you.
If your RAM was high and after the reboot it's still high, check your running apps.
If it's high but after the reboot it's back to normal, then you just "solved" your problem. Just keep rebooting daily.
If this was your problem, then enjoy your phone. If it's not, you can try checking some other things like the I/O speed (which was solved in android 4.3. Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852&highlight=trim ).
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When I checked, I had about 300-400 megabytes of ram being used. Thank you for the info and the effort though. It has a dual core processor, it should be able to run well.
I figuare out the problem of the game lag, the CPU temperature limt!
If you're using custom kernel, set the limit to 74, and u will find out it smoothly on game play, plus if you of the gpu to 384, its almost lag free, but frame drop is also here coz the gpu power.
Does this work on stock kernel also? Last time i had custom kernel, lots of screen problems.
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Does this work on stock kernel also? Last time i had custom kernel, lots of screen problems.
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Nope, flash leankernel, wipe cacje and dalvik cache, install trickster mod, and adjust the settings.
Quite less you can do with stock kernel.
ok i have lean kernel but where do i change the setting in the franco kernel app
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ok i have lean kernel but where do i change the setting in the franco kernel app
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You need to use trickster mod not Franco app. The Franco app is optimized for the Franco kernel.
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OK I installed trickster but every time I try to change a setting, after a reboot, it goes back to stock. What now
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You need to use trickster mod not Franco app. The Franco app is optimized for the Franco kernel.
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FKU also incorporates LeanKernel Updater so why isn't it optimized
And just to add that the above trick of disabling thermal throttling works nicely for me. I always wondered about why playing PPSSPP produces random lag - setting the governor to "performance" won't help a bit - and FKU saved my ass!
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Hello there! I have ASUS Zenfone 2 and I want an android browser that has AdBlock and is also capable to Sync bookmarks and tabs with browser on PC and other devices (so Adblock Browser isn't being considered). The two options I come across are Maxthon and Firefox.
I have used Maxthon in the past (both PC and Android Versions) and have preferences for it, but I want to now between Maxthon and Firefox, what has the best CPU, RAM and Battery Usage (mainly battery usage since Zenfone has the long known issues with battery life).
I have found an article on PhoneArena showing the advantage to Maxthon on page rendering and loadtime, however no word is said about the hardware performance.
So, anyone knows which one is better?
PS: I won't be using Chrome because no.
PS²: Sorry for my english, I'm not native speaker
Link to the article on PhoneArena
phonearena.com/news/Best-Android-browsers-2015-edition-design-features-and-performance_id67848
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Hello there! I have ASUS Zenfone 2 and I want an android browser that has AdBlock and is also capable to Sync bookmarks and tabs with browser on PC and other devices (so Adblock Browser isn't being considered). The two options I come across are Maxthon and Firefox.
I have used Maxthon in the past (both PC and Android Versions) and have preferences for it, but I want to now between Maxthon and Firefox, what has the best CPU, RAM and Battery Usage (mainly battery usage since Zenfone has the long known issues with battery life).
I have found an article on PhoneArena showing the advantage to Maxthon on page rendering and loadtime, however no word is said about the hardware performance.
So, anyone knows which one is better?
PS: I won't be using Chrome because no.
PS²: Sorry for my english, I'm not native speaker
Link to the article on PhoneArena
phonearena.com/news/Best-Android-browsers-2015-edition-design-features-and-performance_id67848
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Whichever you feel is faster! If you are a numbers man try this app and see which launches faster.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...o.androidbenchmarkaccessibilityrecorder&hl=en
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Whichever you feel is faster! If you are a numbers man try this app and see which launches faster.
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Oh, thanks for the reply, but what I mean is which one consumes less CPU, RAM and Battery.
There is an APP with I can test those parameters?
I tried both today again after months and I personally hate Firefox on Android, it is so slow (maybe only on Intel X86?)..I tried also Maxthon but I'm not impressed..I will suggest you Maxthon, Firefox is too slow! There are anyway a lot of ad-blocking browsers, Lightning Browser (only pro) for example, you can also try latest Asus Browser (I don't know if now is stable or you still need to join beta on google plus, anyway they added ad-block support).
hi there
i can confirm, firefox (not beta) has a lot better
some sites when using maxthon is dissaponted
e.g, try browse 'kumpulbagi.com' or 'kumpulbagi.id' without quote using maxthon and firefox, set to the desktop mode..you can see maxthon can't zoom out as firefox do
and firefox has several filter adblocker you can choose, i have to admit firefox too slow at the past than maxthon but im impressed with firefox now
anyway, other browser that you can consider is asus browser, now has adblocker, you can do compare how fast and see the RAM consume
hope you can choose the best and match
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Oh, thanks for the reply, but what I mean is which one consumes less CPU, RAM and Battery.
There is an APP with I can test those parameters?
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GSam Battery Monitor does give you CPU and Battery usage of an app.
For RAM usage you can goto : Settings - > Apps - > Running.
Firefox beta has some experimental features for x86 that make it run pretty smooth for me