gaming battery life - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Dear nexus 7 FHD owners,
I have possessed my shiny new nexus 7 since tuesday last week, and boy am I happy with it. The only flaw it has is a dead (black) pixel in the lower left corner, which is covered by the soft button bar when in landscape.
While it is a fantastic tablet, I consider my battery life very weak. While I dont have exact numbers at hand, using google chrome to browse the interwebz drains the battery very quick imo (ill post on this in the future).
I do, however, have exact numbers on gaming. Yesterday I drained the battery from 100% to 14%, playing eternity warriors 2 for 3h14m straight, With a screen on time of 4h47m, of which an hour at the lowest brightness setting and the rest at 10-25%. Do these numbers seem to you? How much gaming time do you get on a single charge?
Idle drain seems about right, i left it at 88% when i went to bed last night, waking up with a charge of 85%. This is with wifi on in sleep, wifi and mobile network location on, currents disabled and all sync apps set to once/ hour. Though surprisingly when i tested the idle time during the day, leaving wifi off but all other settings unchanged, it drained 5% during my 6 hour school day, leaving the device at home.
I also played galaxy on fire 2 HD for 2h36m straight, draining the battery from 80-1% (i did maybe 10minutes worth of browsing in between).
I should mention that out of the box I had about 50% battery and I drained it to 1% on the first use before the first charge. I know this is bad for the battery, but it is said that most devices get their first full 100% charge in the factory right? Still though, might this have an impact on my battery life?
I'm looking forward to your feedback. The return policy ends tuesday next week, and I can return the device no questions asked until then. I will do that if it turns out my device's battery life is indeed quite the exception. I'm reluctant to do this, however, since I only have one dead pixel and I am afraid I might receive a device which has other or more flaws.

Your device's battery performance is pretty normal on the 2nd gen N7. Games seem to drain the battery the most. I get the same results. 3hrs with gaming. Worms Armageddon in my case. I usually get about 5-6 hrs od mixed screen-on use on a single charge. From what I observe Chrome will usually flatten the battery in 4-5 hrs depends on what pages you browse. The longest battery life you will get on video playback - up to 10 hrs with MXPlayer. That all on autobrightness.
I find these results a little disappointing. At least they are very far away from what is advertised. I do not know what is the biggest drain factor but I suspect the GPU and the wireless connectivity.
While transfering large video files over wifi between my nexus and an iPad it seems that the nexus uses more battery with screen off than the iPad with sceen on.
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bandit_knight said:
Your device's battery performance is pretty normal on the 2nd gen N7. Games seem to drain the battery the most. I get the same results. 3hrs with gaming. Worms Armageddon in my case. I usually get about 5-6 hrs od mixed screen-on use on a single charge. From what I observe Chrome will usually flatten the battery in 4-5 hrs depends on what pages you browse. The longest battery life you will get on video playback - up to 10 hrs with MXPlayer. That all on autobrightness.
I find these results a little disappointing. At least they are very far away from what is advertised. I do not know what is the biggest drain factor but I suspect the GPU and the wireless connectivity.
While transfering large video files over wifi between my nexus and an iPad it seems that the nexus uses more battery with screen off than the iPad with sceen on.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
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Thanks for your reply. It is really comforting that it's not just my device. Still considering a return for the dead pixel more and more, though.

RAM Hungry Games
I avoid RAM-Hungry activity. Mostly 3D games of course, drain my battery quickly when I have other services running, and the games that demand a lot of RAM at once will suck the juice out of that battery, so I usually keep it on the charger when playing demanding games.

Ionkiller said:
I avoid RAM-Hungry activity. Mostly 3D games of course, drain my battery quickly when I have other services running, and the games that demand a lot of RAM at once will suck the juice out of that battery, so I usually keep it on the charger when playing demanding games.
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How quickly does your battery drain when not plugged in though?

wow, such nice battery life, and complaining
Mine drained in about 1.5 days last week with a bit of usage, with wifi on the whole time. Charged from 11%. No sync.

todays results
Today my battery was drained in: 1.5 hour gaming, 1 hour chrome, 5 hours screen on time.
I find these numbers quite the disappointment.

Arthedes said:
Today my battery was drained in: 1.5 hour gaming, 1 hour chrome, 5 hours screen on time.
I find these numbers quite the disappointment.
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That does seem a little low to me. I don't do a lot of gaming (Tapped Out is about it) but I have a lot of on screen time between Kindle, web browsing and Netflix. This is all anecdotal though, I haven't actually measured how good my battery life has been, it just seems to be good to me.
Are you running a custom ROM? I'm running CM10.2 and I *think* battery life got better when I flashed it. But again, I didn't measure and compare so its just a gut feeling.

FuturePrimitive said:
That does seem a little low to me. I don't do a lot of gaming (Tapped Out is about it) but I have a lot of on screen time between Kindle, web browsing and Netflix. This is all anecdotal though, I haven't actually measured how good my battery life has been, it just seems to be good to me.
Are you running a custom ROM? I'm running CM10.2 and I *think* battery life got better when I flashed it. But again, I didn't measure and compare so its just a gut feeling.
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I'm running full stock. My stand by time is actually pretty good (1% overnight last night), but thats probably because ive disabled most power hungry features (location, wifi off in sleep etc).
While i do a lot of gaming and battery life is expected to be low then, I expected at least 4 to 5 hours worth of gaming, since it is advertised it should last 9 hours when viewing 1080p video (which is not streamed)

Arthedes said:
While i do a lot of gaming and battery life is expected to be low then, I expected at least 4 to 5 hours worth of gaming, since it is advertised it should last 9 hours when viewing 1080p video (which is not streamed)
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Bad assumption. The hardware video decoder is extremely efficient (at 0% brightness I measured 1.28W power consumption for 720p; equivalent to 11.7h battery life).
The CPU/GPU hits thermal throttling (not enough cooling to run at full speed) at about 5W power consumption (= 3h battery life). Going from 0% brightness to 100% brightness adds another 1.05W (total of 6.05W = 2.5h battery life). So a game that heavily loads the N7, can very quickly drain the battery.

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Bad assumption. The hardware video decoder is extremely efficient (at 0% brightness I measured 1.28W power consumption for 720p; equivalent to 11.7h battery life).
The CPU/GPU hits thermal throttling (not enough cooling to run at full speed) at about 5W power consumption (= 3h battery life). Going from 0% brightness to 100% brightness adds another 1.05W (total of 6.05W = 2.5h battery life). So a game that heavily loads the N7, can very quickly drain the battery.
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Thank you for settling this problem with actual facts! IIRC the battery capacity was indeed 15Wh, though I didn't know max. usage was 5W, I thought it was more like 3-4W.
I'm a bit curious though as to how one monitors the system power consumption. Is ther an app for that?

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I'm a bit curious though as to how one monitors the system power consumption. Is ther an app for that?
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I'm measuring via the USB port (I built a power monitor).
The N7 also has a battery gauge chip that can measure current. The driver logs some debug info, including a current drawn value every 60s. However, that value is only the average for one second, so it's not very stable.
In a root terminal, you can run
Code:
dmesg | grep bq27541
to get the debug info from the battery gauge chip.
(BTW, that current is the current flowing into or out of the battery, not the current used by the system.)

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I'm a bit curious though as to how one monitors the system power consumption. Is ther an app for that?
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I use Battery Monitor Widget. Among many other graphs it provides a %/h graph. I can see in games my N7 drains at ~30%/h
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro
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Bad assumption. The hardware video decoder is extremely efficient (at 0% brightness I measured 1.28W power consumption for 720p; equivalent to 11.7h battery life).
The CPU/GPU hits thermal throttling (not enough cooling to run at full speed) at about 5W power consumption (= 3h battery life). Going from 0% brightness to 100% brightness adds another 1.05W (total of 6.05W = 2.5h battery life). So a game that heavily loads the N7, can very quickly drain the battery.
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Great explanation. Thanks. What is then happening in Chrome? It's the 2nd biggest battery drainer for me. From what I can see it drains battery at the rate of 20-25% per hour.

bandit_knight said:
Great explanation. Thanks. What is then happening in Chrome? It's the 2nd biggest battery drainer for me. From what I can see it drains battery at the rate of 20-25% per hour.
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Chrome is a CPU pig. Even sitting around on a web page with a single animated GIF will eat 1.8W at 0% brightness. Add in some web pages with a lot of Javascript (Javascript is extremely CPU inefficient) or not using an ad blocker (it's pretty common to to pull in ad-related Javascript junk from 20+ places on a single page and a lot of ads include animated crap) and you quickly get a lot more...

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[Q] Which rom/kernel for battery life?

Hey,
This question has been asked a few times but with new roms comming out all the time I would like to ask again!
Currently I'm using baadnewz hd rom and the kernel that comes with it, using juice defended and setcpu, my phone will die by the time i go to sleep if it was at 100% when I wake up. This isn't good enough for me :/ I use my phone quite a bit.. Was looking for something a little better!
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I use the latest stock rom with underclocking mod root and setcpu with some tweeks with sending around 200 texts 15 emails a couple tweets 1 hour talking and some doodle jump I get from six am to ten pm at 60% left.
What do you do on your phone playing games destroys battery life
I am on OpenDesire now, it seems a lot better. But still, I throw it on charge and in 1 hour it will charge 10%, but off charge it will drain 10% in 1 hour. It just seems so pathetic. People brag about 3 days battery life with their phones.
which eats up batt life more: games or surfing the net? I always thought it was the latter.
Also, what's the main difference between underclocking and undervolting? Won't underclocking mean a perpetually slower processing speed?
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lukyjay said:
I am on OpenDesire now, it seems a lot better. But still, I throw it on charge and in 1 hour it will charge 10%, but off charge it will drain 10% in 1 hour. It just seems so pathetic. People brag about 3 days battery life with their phones.
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I can get two days before dying if I just email text and an hour of calling, but agian how do you use your phone what's eating up your battery?
And with set CPU I set it to 800mhz and when battery is below 35% I set it to 600
At 600 MHz I notice the browser it slower if I have more than one windows open
But the best is when I lock my phone the CPU scales down to 224mhz to 386mhz or something and that were I noticed the best battery advantage
games like angery birds destroys battery browsing is less consuming than calling.
Just to a quick Google servh on how to extend android battery life its pretty basic, keep brightness at 20 % Bluetooth and wifi off when not using use less Widgets and use advanced task manager

[Q] Horrible Battery Life

How is everyone finding the battery life. Personally, I am finding it just plain horrible. I'm not sure what the issue is specifically but either something is draining it or it is just really that bad, in which case I will return it. I can't get a day's worth of moderate use out of it. It seems to be at most half of what I get from my note 10.1 and they aren't set up any differently. I've tried some of the basics like turning down the screen brightness (which annoys me), turning off the smart stay (but why have a feature you can't use), tweaking email checking settings, turning off samsung sync, turning off bluetooth (don't use it), and locations services. Is anyone else seeing this as an issue and does anyone have any additional suggestions for me to try?
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I get about two days between charges on mine. I get a decent amount of usage on a daily basis between email, Facebook, and candy crush. I even have Google Now running. How many charge cycles have you been through?
05GT said:
I get about two days between charges on mine. I get a decent amount of usage on a daily basis between email, Facebook, and candy crush. I even have Google Now running. How many charge cycles have you been through?
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If by charge cycles you mean fully discharging the phone until it shuts off, I haven't done that, but could give it a shot. It has gone down to 10% several times though.
No battery problems here. I wouldn't blame charge cycles, if they have any effect at all, it is minor. If I were you, I would do a factory reset, followed by an exchange if the reset doesn't fix it.
I have smart stay on , backlight on auto, and take no extra precautions for battery savings.
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How is everyone finding the battery life. Personally, I am finding it just plain horrible. I'm not sure what the issue is specifically but either something is draining it or it is just really that bad, in which case I will return it. I can't get a day's worth of moderate use out of it. It seems to be at most half of what I get from my note 10.1 and they aren't set up any differently. I've tried some of the basics like turning down the screen brightness (which annoys me), turning off the smart stay (but why have a feature you can't use), tweaking email checking settings, turning off samsung sync, turning off bluetooth (don't use it), and locations services. Is anyone else seeing this as an issue and does anyone have any additional suggestions for me to try?
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Can you please post some screen shots of your battery life at the end of a typical cycle? It will help with comparisons by giving us more details on your running apps, screen-on display times, etc. Also, what wakelocks do you have? Use BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector from the Play store for that. This info might help us to identify just how much drain is related to rogue apps or the general battery life itself.
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Can you please post some screen shots of your battery life at the end of a typical cycle? It will help with comparisons by giving us more details on your running apps, screen-on display times, etc. Also, what wakelocks do you have? Use BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector from the Play store for that. This info might help us to identify just how much drain is related to rogue apps or the general battery life itself.
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Thanks. Just downloaded BetterBatteryStatus. I'll let it run for a bit and see what comes up. I'll post what I came up with with screen shots from it. Thanks for pointing me in a direction.
Also, it'd help to know how many hours "just plain horrible" is.
I'm not delighted by the battery life I'm seeing, I'm finding I want to charge every night, and that I can easily consume 15% / hour or more even without the screen turned up past 20-25%. (watching video off the NAS in the house.)
Then again, this is the first LCD display I've been able to read in full sunlight, and that's remarkable to me. I often wind up with full sun in the morning when I get up, and am delighted that if I did charge overnight I can use the device even then.
The battery needs some initial "training".
Charge fully on the first and run it all the way down to nearly zero, and fully charge again.
DO NOT interrupt the initial charge.
Battery life is great here after 5 cycles running it to 1% and recharging full at first it was draining faster but now I can watch 4 hours of netflix and still have 25% left nice thing is that the battery charges superfast so no worries
DownTFish said:
If by charge cycles you mean fully discharging the phone until it shuts off, I haven't done that, but could give it a shot. It has gone down to 10% several times though.
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10% is just fine, for purposes of calibrating the battery meter. Preferable actually. You shouldn't actually drain the device until shutdown. There are safeguards that are supposed to ensure the battery voltage does not drop too low (its not actually zero when the phone shuts down). However, in reality these safeguards are not always failsafe and I've seen plenty of cases on various Android devices where letting the battery drain to shutoff renders the battery unable to take a charge (below the minimum threshold voltage). Sometimes, letting the battery charge overnight will bring the battery back. Otherwise, you are pretty screwed, as the only remedy would be a battery meter with a boost function.
In any case, the battery meter is not very accurate, even under the best of circumstances, so letting it drain to 10% is plenty accurate enough. Then let it charge to 100%, and let it sit at full for a while, as fully saturating the battery takes extra time.
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That said, its hard to say what "moderate use" means. Everyone uses their devices differently. If you are playing intensive games, downloading files, heavy internet usage, it can drain the battery much faster than other activities. And the number of hours of screen-on time is key. So the idea of getting some battery stats and screenshots, is a good one.
I haven't been tracking screen-on time myself. But I find the battery to be decent. I use it a good amount in the evening (don't bring it to work) mostly for reading and web browsing. I have brightness on 40-50% usually (sometimes less, if the room is darker). The battery was just under 40% after 2 nights of use (maybe 40 hours after the last charge). Just guessing, but maybe 3 or 4 hours of screen on time?
Some online reviews mentioned the battery life is not as good as some other comparable devices (such as Nexus 7 and iPad Mini). Not surprising, since the Note 8 has a faster processor and higher resolution screen than either. And so far, battery life is not amazing, but seems comparable or better (better drain while idle) than my old HTC Flyer tablet. So for me, thats just fine.
I got about 4 hours screen-on time on my first battery cycle with heavy usage. Was playing games, movies, internet browsing, etc. My second and third cycles were better, giving me 5-6 hours screen-on time with moderate to heavy usage. Didn't really play any movies, but did play a fair amount of games and stuff.
On those later cycles my screen-on drain represented about 85% of my overall drain. This leads me to say that you can expect 4.5-6.5 hours of screen-on time with the Note 8, depending on usage. Keep in mind that I keep wifi always on, disabled bluetooth/auto-sync/smart stay, stopped some running apps like Maps and Factory Test, and kept brightness down to about 15% of the max setting.
Screen is definitely the big drain here, and these results lead me to believe that even with root and apps like Greenify I would not get much better results. Looks like any further battery savings will need to come from a custom kernel and custom rom (unless maybe you root and then underclock/undervolt using a third party app like Voltage Control or SetCpu). Anyone else have similar (or different ) results?
mingkee said:
The battery needs some initial "training".
Charge fully on the first and run it all the way down to nearly zero, and fully charge again.
DO NOT interrupt the initial charge.
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dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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:what:...XDA is for fun and for sharing; not for putting others down. Please be a little more respectful towards forum users when you post in the future. If you disagree with something then just explain so we can all learn together.
I am assuming the Note 8 has a lithium based battery. I couldn't confirm it though. The below link has some tips for how to care for different type of batteries. Useful reading.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tablets/how-and-when-to-charge-your-tablet-battery/814
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Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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While his terminology might have been a bit clumsy, he is not completely incorrect.
The terminology of "training the battery" invokes the concepts of conditioning the old technology NiCad batteries to prevent memory effects, which are not a concern with Li ion batteries, which is what you seem to be referring to. Folks on XDA will often talk about conditioning or calibrating the battery, which can be a bit misleading (as often they have the behavior of the old NiCad batteries in mind when saying this).
However, it is true that the battery meter needs to be calibrated to be completely accurate. This calibration has no chemical effect on the battery itself (like it does with NiCad batteries) but simply effects how the current readings are displayed by the % battery meter on the device's screen. Without fully charging and draining the device, it doesn't have fully accurate "flags" associated the current to battery %.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
Failure to calibrate the meter won't have a negative chemical effect, like failure to periodically condition a NiCad battery. And therefore it won't have an affect on the battery life. But properly calibrating will give you the most accurate % battery reading possible. The battery meter is not accurate out of the box, after a ROM flash, and an OTA may also reset the calibration.
As I've already mentioned in a previous response, I don't recommend draining the battery to shutoff. As doing so can lead to the battery no longer taking a charge, and the device no longer powering on. Its rare, but it does happen. Fully changing, then draining to 10% or so is enough. Full cycles are also not good for the long term life of the battery, although just doing it once every few months is still acceptable.
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kisrita said:
I am assuming the Note 8 has a lithium based battery. I couldn't confirm it though. The below link has some tips for how to care for different type of batteries. Useful reading.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tablets/how-and-when-to-charge-your-tablet-battery/814
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Pretty good link, thanks. And reinforces what I just said above.
Most any smartphone or tablet made in the past several years uses a Li ion battery. This confirms it: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_8_0_n5100-5252.php
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hertsjoatmon said:
Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
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The charger for the Note 8 is 2 Amps, while most MicroUSB chargers (at least for phones and other small devices) are 1 Amp. Although this varies, and there are other tablet chargers that are also 2 Amps; but these are far less common than phone charges that just about anyone with a phone that isn't Apple will have.
What this means is that the 1 Amp charger will charge the Note 8 very slowly. I tried mine on a 1 Amp charger just once so far. Left it on for maybe an hour, and the charge only increased by a few percent.
So yes, you can charge with most MicroUSB chargers in a pinch. But it will be slow.
hertsjoatmon said:
Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
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Don't get the physical plug of a charger confuse you - I believe this tablet needs a 2amp output from the charger, meaning just because your charger has the same end connection, it won't necessarily help you charge this battery. I've had my users come to me thinking their devices are defective because they somehow started charging their tablet with their Bluetooth headset charger.
Someone also mentioned the black wallpaper that might help with the battery consumption - I believe that is only helpful on AMOLED screens that Samsung has used on other devices.
I'm really still on the fence on keeping it after I bought this - I'm coming from a GT 7.7 which had excellent build quality,screen, and battery life. The loss of the AMOLED screen for both graphics and battery efficiency is bothering me. I put both up side by side and feel disappointed that Samsung couldn't just make a JB updated 7.7 with new CPU, 2GB RAM, and stylus with the same design and beautiful Super AMOLED Plus screen. It's not even the price - but just feeling like I'm getting a somewhat inferior device (in a few but important aspects) from the 7.7, when it's supposed to be an upgrade to the older device.
I've seen the news about an upgrade to the 7.7 possibly coming, but will it come with the stylus that is also important to me and the other software enhancements from the Note 8?
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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Funny thing happened on mine.
The battery was VERY BAD the second day, but it could play live streaming for two hours when the battery was 1%. As soon as the tablet went off due to depleted battery, I charged it until it went all the way until the "full battery" came up.
After that, the battery is much better now, so don't say anything "dumb" or any nonsense because it works.
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Someone also mentioned the black wallpaper that might help with the battery consumption - I believe that is only helpful on AMOLED screens
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That is correct, having a black background does not effect battery life on LCD screens.
On AMOLED screens, black pixels are actually not emitting light (while pixels displaying other colors emit light), which is why a black background will cause less battery drain than other colors.
On an LCD, the liquid crystal layer that depicts the colors is not itself a source of light. Its lit from the back, and the light intensity of the backlight is the same regardless of what color is being displayed. How much light is blocked or let though by the liquid crystal layer varies depending on their alignment (what color is being displayed). But this doesn't affect how bright the backlight is, anymore than pulling a window blind makes the sun burn less hydrogen.
Speedy Gonzalez said:
Battery life is great here after 5 cycles running it to 1% and recharging full at first it was draining faster but now I can watch 4 hours of netflix and still have 25% left nice thing is that the battery charges superfast so no worries
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Only four hours? My Nexus 7 averages about 10.5 hours of Netflix with 10% left. I wonder how other note 8's compare?
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Gaming Battery Life

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/29/nexus-7-review-2013/
Since ASUS has made a considerable effort to slim down the new Nexus, we suppose it shouldn't come as much of a surprise to find that the battery is also smaller: it's been shrunk from 4,325mAh to 3,950. This was worrying at first, especially given the extra pixels that need to be lit up. In normal use, we discovered that the device could easily last us at least a day and a half, and we could certainly push it longer by being more conscious about preserving battery life. Gaming and multimedia were unfortunately different stories: we drained the battery nearly 30 percent in just one hour of playing graphically intense games like Riptide. Our video rundown test, which consists of a 1080p movie playing back on an endless loop with the display on 50 percent brightness, yielded a life of seven hours and 15 minutes, which was much poorer than last year's Nexus 7. That tablet lasted nine hours and 49 minutes in the same test.
(Update: many of our commenters have rightly pointed out that the new Nexus 7 has a much brighter display, which may lead to faster battery drain when it's set at the same percentage instead of a nit-for-nit comparison.)
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How fast does your battery drain while gaming? Please mention the game played, length of session, battery percentage before and after, whether wifi was in use, and screen brightness.
noxxle said:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/29/nexus-7-review-2013/
How fast does your battery drain while gaming? Please mention the game played, length of session, battery percentage before and after, whether wifi was in use, and screen brightness.
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With heavy gaming use, RipTide2 or ShadowGun DeadZone (Online Multiplayer FPS) I average around an hour per 10% or less of battery use so far.
Played Crazy Taxi for about a half hour and dropped 5-6% which I didn't find all that terrible. Can't expect the world from the battery.
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With heavy gaming use, RipTide2 or ShadowGun DeadZone (Online Multiplayer FPS) I average around an hour per 10% or less of battery use so far.
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You get over ten hours of gaming? That is hard to believe.
According to Anandtech, last year's N7 only got 4 hours during heavy gaming. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/7
The N7 also fared poorly compared to every iPad. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6429/ipad-mini-review/8
I give more weight to Anandtech's benchmarks that most others. They are generally the most thorough and technical. Although the above are for the previous gen N7, I'd be shocked if the new model can achieve 10+ hours gaming on a single charge. None of the current gen tablets can do that.
I played Cordy for an hour and it ate 20 to 30% of battery.
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I played Cordy for an hour and it ate 20 to 30% of battery.
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What level brightness?
According to Anandtech, the new N7 display goes up to 583 nits, while the original only 312 nits. Brightness probably has a huge impact on battery life.
noxxle said:
What level brightness?
According to Anandtech, the new N7 display goes up to 583 nits, while the original only 312 nits. Brightness probably has a huge impact on battery life.
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Full. All the way to the right. Lol
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Full. All the way to the right. Lol
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I'm going to need you to re-run that test at 25%, kplzthx.
Is it possible to adjust max CPU frequency in stock Android 4.3?
N7's cpu/gpu is overkill for most games. Setting a freq ceiling might extend battery life significantly without a noticeable impact on game performance.
noxxle said:
Is it possible to adjust max CPU frequency in stock Android 4.3?
N7's cpu/gpu is overkill for most games. Setting a freq ceiling might extend battery life significantly without a noticeable impact on game performance.
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Going to need to root your device and use an app like SetCPU to lower the clock speed.

4% drain I'm just 7min?....

I barely got this tablet yesterday and already seeing fast battery drain. I don't have that much apps/games. I rooted it today in the afternoon but I don't think it will drain the battery.... What's the deal here?
This is my 10.1
geeshiet said:
I barely got this tablet yesterday and already seeing fast battery drain. I don't have that much apps/games. I rooted it today in the afternoon but I don't think it will drain the battery.... What's the deal here?
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There's always an initial drain that is rather fast due to the fact that the charging is not perfectly optimized, notably while it's new. Even though it says 100% it's most likely not the fact. On the other hand due to the large screen the screen uses a lot of power. When using Cyanogen for maybe 20-30 min/day I'm still at 97% the next morning w/o charging. But, I use a lot of mods and settings trying to optimize battery usage. Once you get used to the device and start experimenting with ROM's, settings, mods I'm sure you will find a way to optimize it to your flavor.
The tablet has to scan all directories for media.
Here are some really good tips. You can also shut off a lot of samsung bloatware. I have probably 50 things shut off along with below tips I get amazing battery life and never any lag. Not a fan of magazine touchwiz so using nova and couldn't be happier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782239
For a new device, you need to cycle the battery to about 10%, then fully charge, to set the battery meter "high" and "low" flags (some call this "calibrating the battery meter"), before you can expect the battery meter readings to be anywhere accurate.

Lg g3 battery drain issue [ Tried normal methods % have screen shots ]

Guys im sorry but i have rushed a few replies to get the 10 posts but can you please not take this down i need to know if this is legit as my money back only lasts a certain amount
Ok so i bought a lg g3 from ebay, Its legit i have tested with antutu officer but it can get really hot and battery drains very quickly when watching movies and games.
My screen usage is always above 60% but i have screen on 30 seconds and 0% bright. My phone also says that i have used like 1000 mah at 50% but it should say 1500 mah.
I have a d851 and marshmallow and use my phone only with wifi no gps/nfc i also dont have background apps
My phone gets 188 mins on gfxbench
Screenies
http://imgur.com/D95ABh1
http://imgur.com/G8I2tcS
http://imgur.com/LcM3NRe
http://imgur.com/st0GBFP
http://imgur.com/fi9ho9j
Sorry for structure of thread...
Is this normal guys
razakma16 said:
Guys im sorry but i have rushed a few replies to get the 10 posts but can you please not take this down i need to know if this is legit as my money back only lasts a certain amount
Ok so i bought a lg g3 from ebay, Its legit i have tested with antutu officer but it can get really hot and battery drains very quickly when watching movies and games.
My screen usage is always above 60% but i have screen on 30 seconds and 0% bright. My phone also says that i have used like 1000 mah at 50% but it should say 1500 mah.
I have a d851 and marshmallow and use my phone only with wifi no gps/nfc i also dont have background apps
My phone gets 188 mins on gfxbench
Screenies
http://imgur.com/D95ABh1
http://imgur.com/G8I2tcS
http://imgur.com/LcM3NRe
http://imgur.com/st0GBFP
http://imgur.com/fi9ho9j
Sorry for structure of thread...
Is this normal guys
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Why should it say 1500 mah? The screen is not the only thing that drains the battery, you know that, right?
Running any benchmark will cause many battery drain. Don't do that. And that app you have to see the cpu temperature, 42º is not high for CPU. For battery it is.
dcop7 said:
Why should it say 1500 mah? The screen is not the only thing that drains the battery, you know that, right?
Running any benchmark will cause many battery drain. Don't do that. And that app you have to see the cpu temperature, 42º is not high for CPU. For battery it is.
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I meant the total of the battery is 1000 mah usage. But is it normal for screen usage to be 60-70 percent usage i use on low brightness aswell
Guys... Please help
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Guys... Please help
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What help? Get a new battery or go away from Snapdragon devices. And, the screen usage is about right, because i don't know if you know, but the screen you are staring at is 1440x2560, or 2K, which is an insane resolution, and crammed in a 5.5 inch display at 538 ppi, it will consume A LOT. And the battery is just 3AH, which seemed much, but compared to the S5, with a 1080p display and a 2.6AH battery, the G3 has the worst SOT out of the 2014 flagship lineup.
西村大一 said:
What help? Get a new battery or go away from Snapdragon devices. And, the screen usage is about right, because i don't know if you know, but the screen you are staring at is 1440x2560, or 2K, which is an insane resolution, and crammed in a 5.5 inch display at 538 ppi, it will consume A LOT. And the battery is just 3AH, which seemed much, but compared to the S5, with a 1080p display and a 2.6AH battery, the G3 has the worst SOT out of the 2014 flagship lineup.
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The 2K screen doesn't consume that much power. There are mods which allow you to lower the resolution, but you won't see much or any increase in battery life or performance (maybe in games it's going to be most noticeable).
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Guys... Please help
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Sounds like a bad battery. Quite possibly a reason why the other person decided to sell it in the first place. How old is the device that you purchases?
You can get an original replacement battery online for a few dollars. Just make sure you use a reputable vendor, like LG's official website.
engmia said:
The 2K screen doesn't consume that much power. There are mods which allow you to lower the resolution, but you won't see much or any increase in battery life or performance (maybe in games it's going to be most noticeable).
Sounds like a bad battery. Quite possibly a reason why the other person decided to sell it in the first place. How old is the device that you purchases?
You can get an original replacement battery online for a few dollars. Just make sure you use a reputable vendor, like LG's official website.
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Its brand new thats why i'm worried and i have downloaded a few battery checking apps and they say battery health is good.
But when i add up usage it totals lower then the battery capacity, they total up to 1000mah at 50%, when it should be 1500mah
Do you have any benchmarks i can try so i can see if its working right or its just me.
razakma16 said:
Its brand new thats why i'm worried and i have downloaded a few battery checking apps and they say battery health is good.
But when i add up usage it totals lower then the battery capacity, they total up to 1000mah at 50%, when it should be 1500mah
Do you have any benchmarks i can try so i can see if its working right or its just me.
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Oh so it's a brand new LG? How many hours of screen usage are you getting, what usage (web browsing, checking email or playing games?) and with what period of idle time.
Don't trust the numbers in the battery stats, especially in a new ROM. They are supposed to get better over time but I've found them to be wildly inaccurate even on months old ROM. I haven't really found an application you can benchmark accurately with.
But you compare with other (real) results on the foruns and rather you get the hang of what's the normal usage you should be getting out of a good battery.
Did you make a day without running any benchmark apps? What is your SOT? Standby time? Do you have location,wifi,bluetooth,NFC,mobile data on?
All of this matters. You shouldn't start right away with "I have problems with my battery" if you are running benchmark apps. Benchmark apps drains battery!
Wait a few days without running that apps and see how it manages. Another thing. The battery stats, the mah usage, not all of the things appears in the default android battery stats. And another thing, the battery value (the percentage of the battery), it is an approximation. Sometimes it could go up without charging, it is because it detected that has a wrong value. You could try charge your phone to 100%, usage it normally until 0%, until it turns off. Then charge it again to 100% and use it normally (don't discharge to 0% to many times, it just hurts the battery).
engmia said:
Oh so it's a brand new LG? How many hours of screen usage are you getting, what usage (web browsing, checking email or playing games?) and with what period of idle time.
Don't trust the numbers in the battery stats, especially in a new ROM. They are supposed to get better over time but I've found them to be wildly inaccurate even on months old ROM. I haven't really found an application you can benchmark accurately with.
But you compare with other (real) results on the foruns and rather you get the hang of what's the normal usage you should be getting out of a good battery.
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I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
dcop7 said:
Did you make a day without running any benchmark apps? What is your SOT? Standby time? Do you have location,wifi,bluetooth,NFC,mobile data on?
All of this matters. You shouldn't start right away with "I have problems with my battery" if you are running benchmark apps. Benchmark apps drains battery!
Wait a few days without running that apps and see how it manages. Another thing. The battery stats, the mah usage, not all of the things appears in the default android battery stats. And another thing, the battery value (the percentage of the battery), it is an approximation. Sometimes it could go up without charging, it is because it detected that has a wrong value. You could try charge your phone to 100%, usage it normally until 0%, until it turns off. Then charge it again to 100% and use it normally (don't discharge to 0% to many times, it just hurts the battery).
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OK i will try but it think you misunderstood i just want to run a benchmark to check i dont run them in the background constantsly now that would be
razakma16 said:
I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
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Streamed from the internet with at least 1h10 SOT, that is not bad. That is almost 4 hours SOT. If you have 1h12 minutes SOT, that is 4 hours. It is good.
razakma16 said:
I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
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Oh yeah, considering you even streamed the movie, it's signs of a good new and healthy battery. 3 hours of SoT with internet browsing is quite the norm, and 4 hours is on the up side.
I can barely get to 2 hours of SoT with my now aging battery.
engmia said:
Oh yeah, considering you even streamed the movie, it's signs of a good new and healthy battery. 3 hours of SoT with internet browsing is quite the norm, and 4 hours is on the up side.
I can barely get to 2 hours of SoT with my now aging battery.
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There are a few things you can try if you are rooted to improve battery.
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There are a few things you can try if you are rooted to improve battery.
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It's not about the software side of things, it's about that my battery is old now, and that's why happens to old batteries, the just deteriorate.
Thankfully the LG G3 has an easily replaceable battery, and I have a replacement waiting for me. Not getting a phone on which you can't remove the battery..
And never found those apps like Greenify to really work, at least in the last few years of Android. The OS seems to be doing just of a good a job and I see no improvement in battery life. Maybe they help in cases with poorly written apps that are draining your battery in the background, but I don't see why would you use such a software in the first place.
engmia said:
It's not about the software side of things, it's about that my battery is old now, and that's why happens to old batteries, the just deteriorate.
Thankfully the LG G3 has an easily replaceable battery, and I have a replacement waiting for me. Not getting a phone on which you can't remove the battery..
And never found those apps like Greenify to really work, at least in the last few years of Android. The OS seems to be doing just of a good a job and I see no improvement in battery life. Maybe they help in cases with poorly written apps that are draining your battery in the background, but I don't see why would you use such a software in the first place.
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There are other things. Try to disable assertive display. You can disable logd. Turn of VoLTE. I use greenify because the aggressive doze.

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