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Is anyone manage to brick the phone already?
How likely/ or stupidity you need to actually bricking the phone?
What is a NO NO and how to avoid it?
That's the question.. thanks!
Main thing is read as much as you can before you do any changes, it helps to check what few sites say.
When I rooted my phone I could not get it to run the update part, tried time and time again, one site said "rename the file to update.zip and paste it" then I read on another site to just call it update as it is already a zip file.....and then it worked, small bit of detail like that stopped it working to start with so if I was you I check a few sites and get all the info you need, but also as many would say if you are that unsure dont take the risk and wait for samsung updates with Kies.
voodoochild2008 said:
if you are that unsure dont take the risk and wait for samsung updates with Kies.
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Kies actually failed to update my phone, I have the Korean Galaxy S SHW-M100S, and it showed an update was available. So, I thought I was bricked for about 30 mins, kept trying to get it to work itself out of the problem in recovery mode, after about 4 tries (1 reboot of Windows, plus changing USB ports and 2nd try with this static new config) eventually it did, thank God.
Do not remove usb while in the middle of flashing with odin
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
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amerikian said:
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
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I was gonna say something along the lines of a smart ass, but I can't. That sucks.
why would you do a battery pull?
madjsp said:
I was gonna say something along the lines of a smart ass, but I can't. That sucks.
why would you do a battery pull?
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I've been flashing all night and wanted to do it "right" this time....realized my SIM and SD card were still in there mid-flash so wanted to pull them and start clean..........................
Yeah....don't do that.
Guess I'll be that "guy" paying a visit to the local AT&T shop tomorrow....
Luckily I'm w/in my 14 days since getting it....
delete. ......
amerikian said:
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
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I've removed the cable half way and rebooted, and it was fine..
You simply remove the USB cable, battery again, put the battery in, and you'll be able to get to downloader mode.
The phone seems to have a component that ODIN doesn't touch that is read-only that handles download mode. Most hardware devices tend to have safeguards. I haven't confirmed this, but I've noticed the same applies to NAS devices (which tend to have a special redboot which uses tftp).
I have still yet to have seen any evidence of anyone permanently bricking their phone, but I've seen a few cases of "oops, got it working again".
Remember, Samsung are eager to reduce their support costs, and failsafe's are cheap and easy to add.
yes, the odin doesn't touch the 'bootloader' , or the small piece of code that enable the download mode, so there's no way you can brick the phone.
I have tried to repartition the phone while flashing firmware that has nothing except the csc data (i.e. no kernel, no factory rfs, etc) and the flash procedure went succesfully but in actual fact, my phone contains a new set of partitions that contain nothing except the small csc data.
and i still able to reflash, although I must make sure that the phone is totally shutdown (i.e. take out battery, let it stay for awhile before putting back)
andrewluecke said:
I've removed the cable half way and rebooted, and it was fine..
You simply remove the USB cable, battery again, put the battery in, and you'll be able to get to downloader mode.
The phone seems to have a component that ODIN doesn't touch that is read-only that handles download mode. Most hardware devices tend to have safeguards. I haven't confirmed this, but I've noticed the same applies to NAS devices (which tend to have a special redboot which uses tftp).
I have still yet to have seen any evidence of anyone permanently bricking their phone, but I've seen a few cases of "oops, got it working again".
Remember, Samsung are eager to reduce their support costs, and failsafe's are cheap and easy to add.
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I thought in the Big FAQ, it said... do not disconnect the usb-cable but to remove the battery if want to interrupt it...
7.The phone will be flashed and once it’s finished, it will boot up. (Do NOT disconnect the usb-cable, remove the battery or otherwise interrupt this process!)
amerikian said:
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
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Similar happened to me,although I didnt pull the battery, the phone just disconnected halfway through the flash.
Had half hour of panic,where I thought it was bricked.
Had to do a few battery pulls,restart PC a couple of times and mess around with different USB ports,but finally got it working.
Have flashed a 3 times since without a problem.
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I thought in the Big FAQ, it said... do not disconnect the usb-cable but to remove the battery if want to interrupt it...
7.The phone will be flashed and once it’s finished, it will boot up. (Do NOT disconnect the usb-cable, remove the battery or otherwise interrupt this process!)
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That means you shouldn't do any of those things! So don't disconnect usb, don't remove the battery and don't interrupt the process.
zenkinz said:
yes, the odin doesn't touch the 'bootloader' , or the small piece of code that enable the download mode, so there's no way you can brick the phone.
I have tried to repartition the phone while flashing firmware that has nothing except the csc data (i.e. no kernel, no factory rfs, etc) and the flash procedure went succesfully but in actual fact, my phone contains a new set of partitions that contain nothing except the small csc data.
and i still able to reflash, although I must make sure that the phone is totally shutdown (i.e. take out battery, let it stay for awhile before putting back)
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Are you sure that flashing (through ODIN) in any case never touch that "Download Mode" piece of code ? Even you select all the options in ODIN ?
Can anyone confirm this ? Actually I want to play with Kernel and RFS (have some ideas to try) but afraid of full bricking. So if this download mode is always present then I can play with it without any problem.
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amerikian said:
I've been flashing all night and wanted to do it "right" this time....realized my SIM and SD card were still in there mid-flash so wanted to pull them and start clean..........................
Yeah....don't do that.
Guess I'll be that "guy" paying a visit to the local AT&T shop tomorrow....
Luckily I'm w/in my 14 days since getting it....
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Believe me! you can still access the download menu
The bootloader is almost always writeprotected and cannot be overwritten. You would probably have to connect a cable to some internal port like Jtag to be able to reflash the bootloader section. Atleast that is the case in 99% of all bootloaders. Im very certain that you cannot cripple the bootloader.
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jackiechan8 said:
That means you shouldn't do any of those things! So don't disconnect usb, don't remove the battery and don't interrupt the process.
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gosh man, thanks correcting me but if that's the case, what should i do if it doesn't reboot by itself?
take out the battery, wait for 30 to 60 secs, put the battery in and start phone with vol down + menu + power
Don't disconnect the usb or do anything else while flashing!!!
I removed the usb cable when it started flashing (i thinked it was stuck, happens sometimes), and since it does not boot anymore. I press the power button, volUp + home + power, volDown + home + power... nothing happens.... it's dead, doesn't turn on at all...
after all i have read i think it's almost impossible to brick the sgs since you always get back into download-mode. the only case i read where i believe that it's a goner is flashing with the wrong (in this case the at&t) odin version. those guy's just got a white sreen with at&t logo at boot. they didn't get into download mode any more because the button mapping on the captivate is different ... so thats really bad luck, dont't try that at home
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after all i have read i think it's almost impossible to brick the sgs since you always get back into download-mode. the only case i read where i believe that it's a goner is flashing with the wrong (in this case the at&t) odin version. those guy's just got a white sreen with at&t logo at boot. they didn't get into download mode any more because the button mapping on the captivate is different ... so thats really bad luck, dont't try that at home
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well, mine doesn't boot at all, and i flashed (technically not, because i removed the usb cable at the very start) with the RIGHT odin version
Maybe if it fails when flashig sbl (secondary boot loader ) you can't go into download/recovery mode...
I just rooted my HTC Desire and installed CM7 on it (loved it on my HTC Legend). But suddenly today, after I turned Wifi on, it started rebooting all the time, couldn't do anything to stop it. I thought "Hey, there was the radio flash thing in the tutorial that I didn't do yet, I'll try that out" so I flashed the radio. Then I chose reboot system, but it just booted to a logo with an android coming out of a trash can, and looked kinda stuck there. So I took out the battery and plugged back in. Now if I try to turn it on, it'll just vibrate 7 times - no picture or anything. Also there's no LED when I plug it to the charger.
I had those 7 vibrates too.
Happened after i flashed the cm7 hboot over my stock hboot while trying to enter recovery. After i re-flashed my recovery using fastboot, everything worked again. What happens if you try to power up while holding down vol- ? Did you use fastboot or your phones recovery mode to install the radio?
I am not able to start in recovery or anything. I tried vol. down + power and back + power and no matter what I try, it just vibrates 7 times. I used the recovery mode to install the radio.
You could try to connect your phone via usb and check if fastboot discovers your device. If yes, flash hboot and recovery using fastboot. If not, well... i dont have a clue. Sorry :/
Computer discovers nothing when I plug in the phone.
Bad news when u pulled battery u interrupt the process n u now have a bricked device I would b very surprised if u managed to do anything
Pulling battery when doin a radio update is a BIG NO NO I'm sorry but ur stuck with a 400+ mirror now
Please look at this link
http://www.google.co.uk/m/search?site=images&client=ms-android-htc&hl=en&gl=uk&source=mog&aq=&oq=&aqi=&fkt=&fsdt=&cqt=&rst=&htf=&his=&maction=&q=android+radio+update#i=95
If that the image u saw when u pulled battery ur defo screwed
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Your link doesn't work.. I found a picture of what was showing when I unplugged the battery, but I'm not allowed to post links to other sites on these forums yet.
U need to copy the link for some reason its not showing up
Pm the link u have
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Inrego said:
Your link doesn't work.. I found a picture of what was showing when I unplugged the battery, but I'm not allowed to post links to other sites on these forums yet.
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inrego
yes the image u just sent me is correct
the image showing would of ment it was installing the radio and because u pulled battery u have corrupt the flash and unfortuntly bricked ur device
i will look for a solution on the net but im not sure if ill find anythink sorrry
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Your link doesn't work.. I found a picture of what was showing when I unplugged the battery, but I'm not allowed to post links to other sites on these forums yet.
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heres a few thread about some pulling battery on radio flash
http://android.modaco.com/content/g...m/304368/can-the-nexus-one-be-bricked/#entry0
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...50/help-cannot-turn-on-after-flash-new-radio/
i cant find anythink about fixin the issue sorry
Well thanks alot for trying. At least it seems like it shouldn't be too hard to get a replacement unit..
Inrego said:
Well thanks alot for trying. At least it seems like it shouldn't be too hard to get a replacement unit..
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all depends on if ur on warranty if u have receipt and warranty then all is ok with out them u stuck basically
sorry couldn't help more hopefully lesson learnt playing with radio is risky business
Yea got warranty and reciept and all that, so np there
Inrego said:
Yea got warranty and reciept and all that, so np there
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nice one then just make up a bull**** reason ok well hope u get a replacement
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Inrego said:
Well thanks alot for trying. At least it seems like it shouldn't be too hard to get a replacement unit..
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For the record to help some of you out who ended up here Googling: I had a similar issue. My HTC Desire SV did not boot, and when charging, only had an orange flashing light, and the phone vibrated 7 times. I did 2 things that got it back up:
1) left the phone off for say 10 minutes (I read about overheating issues in general, although the phone did not feel hot).
2) removed the battery for a couple of minutes.
VERY IMPORTANT: for step 2: make sure to have the battery removed long enough to drain internal charge. I removed and installed the battery in a second or so at first, and still the phone did not boot. After leaving out the battery long enough, it booted again. It appears to me that the issue in my case was a rather big internal charge capacity which kept internal state (memory and/or CPU?) from booting. Hope this helps...
Hello, I wanted to ask if anyone knows how to resolve a SEMI-BRICK. There is no way to enter recovery mode or fastboot.
Was installing a ROM when I got an error and never could turn on the phone. Only I get the screen with the mobile and pc with an exclamation mark in the middle.
Appreciate your help.
PS: sorry for my English
Javier
If you can't get to download mode you might be screwed. Can you get into download mode? If you can then you can just use odin or fastboot to push the factory rom to the phone and it will work again. Obviously you lose root but you can re-root afterwards. Good luck.
I find no way to enter download mode. in any way that I only try to turn the screen appears to indicate in the query.
There is no way to fix it?
thanks
Hey, in all the time on here I have never heard of a bricked Nexus.
Ok so just to be sure when the phone is off and you hold volume down and the power button it does nothing? Sorry just want to be sure this is the case...
probe all possible combinations and all leading me to the same, the screen with the exclamation mark. and on volume +, volume - and power and volume + and - and on
Ah no dude. That sounds bad. I might be wrong but you may need to go back to your provider and tell them it just switched off and wont work anymore.
Do you see the Google logo and the lock symbol when you turn it on or just this exclamation mark?
Obviously if you go back to your provider don't mention anything about roms or rooting as that voids your warranty but if they can't see the Google logo with the lock then they wont know you were rooting and romming it.
That would drive me crazy so I hope you get sorted soon.
The issue is that here in Argentina is not this phone. I bought online and sent me the U.S.. I have therefore not who wear it.
have you tried the usb jigs? i tried it on my nexus and it boots it into download mode
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have you tried the usb jigs? i tried it on my nexus and it boots it into download mode
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That might be worth a shot!
That I'll see if I can prove it today night. It is the only hope left for me.
Yeah, good luck man.
Well folks, with all the pain of the soul I confirm that I have is a full-BRICK. Last night at the JIG probe, and the only thing it does is turn on the phone and see the same screen BRICK. Since I can not think what else to do, only use it as a paperweight as they say
Any chance you try leaving battery out for a while, give it at least a good 10 minutes
Neither. I've left it up all night without battery and nothing.
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Neither. I've left it up all night without battery and nothing.
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Bad news Javii! So what are you going to do next?
Today I will try to recognize me either linux, so maybe you can do a fastboot to install the original rom. Because I said if you see the exclamation point is because it is a semi-brick
I used to get that screen with my Galaxy Tab when flashing the wrong ROM.
If the ODIN and original files are available for you to use, just use that and it should fix your phone.
Hi all,
I was having some random reboots on my HTC desire Z lately and decided it was time to try a custom rom. I followed the right steps to first downgrade to froyo, which was successful and next rooted the phone, which seem to have worked as well.
The next step was to get into recovery mode to install the rom, but I did not get to that. I took out the battery while it was still on to power it off, but then it did not power on anymore. Also connecting the charger has no effect at all, so it sure seems to be bricked.
Does anyone have a suggestion on what I can try, or what happened to it?
The way I downgraded and rooted was by using Strawmetals guide which can be found here:
http://minus.com/mu9vZ3P38
and was suggested in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
I carefully completed all the steps, checked the MD5's etc. and made sure the notifications/verifications I got back in the process were correct..
Also, I wonder if I would run into problems if I send it back in for warranty. If I can't get it to boot, will they? And next they will probably blame me for rooting, right?
Regards & TIA
Yes they gonna blame you for rooting. I was had a same problem, no boot to recovery. I solved the problem with install 4Ext updater and fromit install 4ext tuch,and now I can flash roms. Try to find a charged battery or put yours into another phone and charge it. If I understand right your battery died?!
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Sounds like it might be bricked mate, same thing happened to me... 3 times. They probably won't be able to get the phone to boot, where did you buy the phone from? My second one was from Vodafone with a warranty, when it bricked I took it in, they plugged the phone in and left it for a few minutes and tried to power it on, tried a different battery (All things I already tried) to see if the device was showing any signs of life, it wasn't and I walked out with a new phone. I doubt they'd be able to bring it back to life to see that it's been rooted. You COULD connect your phone to a car battery and fry it, tell them you went to sleep and woke up and the phone was very very hot and it burnt your hand and melted the charger cable, not sure if I could recommend this, never done it myself... but if you have no other option.
These were also the options I considered. Got to give it a try with a different battery, if I can find one. If that doesn't make a difference, I'll just hand it in and see what they have to say, as there's nothing else I can do without being able to power on the phone..
All of a sudden the phone started working again . And afterwards I was able to complete the update to Mimicry 1.5.
Strange problem, as the phone seemed to be dead for hours.. Hope it doesn't happen again!
ok so bottom line is, I was in the middle of flashing official rom when at about 25% it failed. Don't ask why! (i still had recovery at this point) so I went ahead and cleaned absolutely everything thinking i'll just try and reflash as before. Now with power lead out it won't switch on at all and when power is supplied it shows message "An error has occured while udating the device software." loops at approx 3 sec intervals cant do anything with it.
Ive tried everything I can think of all to no avail! yes its my own fault bla bla bla just wondering if i act have f***** it.
Thanks to anyone with any ideas
You probably going to get a better help at TAB S2 board this is for the tab S1.
If it is hard bricked there is JTAG methods that can help, just need to find one for your device, not easy though.
But all I can do is share my experience with something like this, in a more "cheap" way than JTAGs, dunno if it helps:
I never had a similar problem on the tab S. But in the past a galaxy player 5.0 of mine had a very similar problem (as far I remember the screen just powered the back light but without any letters or simbols)
in 2012, I bricked it trying to mount a swap partition (280mb RAM ftw) accidentally pointing the wrong partition, and got the entire internal storage corrupted.. everything.. system, bootloader, recovery etc
My player was turning on only connected to a USB or charger, like yours. in fact It was hard bricked
I was able to recover it using Linux (because it is the only system able to communicate with the bricked device I had)
The problem is that everything need to be very specific, for example I used a software made for the galaxy s1 to "revive" my player 5 (both have the same hardware) it just made the device be detected via ADB. So I needed to prepare a SD with the same size as the internal storage (in this case 8gb) using the Linux terminal to mount in the SD an exactly schematic of the internal memory using a dump of another device that a xda user shared, (the dump was empty only with the bootloader, recovery etc) but it still had 8gb decompressed. So after that I used ADB to push the SD card content to the internal memory. And it get back to life \○/
Well.. it took me 1 week with a guide!! On the trial and error method. But it worked.. not perfectly, I get bootloops every time I try to flash a rom via Odin, but recovery works, and I have the device working until today
Hi, I Greatly appreciate your reply and advice. Think tho that your solution is a bit beyond my know how I know a little about ADB etc but i would have difficulties in compiling necessary files to sideload. Also many tanks for the link din't realise. Thanks Pal!
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ok so bottom line is, I was in the middle of flashing official rom when at about 25% it failed. Don't ask why! (i still had recovery at this point) so I went ahead and cleaned absolutely everything thinking i'll just try and reflash as before. Now with power lead out it won't switch on at all and when power is supplied it shows message "An error has occured while udating the device software." loops at approx 3 sec intervals cant do anything with it.
Ive tried everything I can think of all to no avail! yes its my own fault bla bla bla just wondering if i act have f***** it.
Thanks to anyone with any ideas
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If you can get it in to download mode you can flash stock rom back on it.......refer to xda samsung tab s2 for more details on this........
thx for reply but it reboots approx every 3 seconds so I dont have enough time to do anything with it :/
Alpha1BA said:
thx for reply but it reboots approx every 3 seconds so I dont have enough time to do anything with it :/
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Plug in changer and push power and volume up and down all together and you will see the battery charger icon then you can get it in to download mode from there.....
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Plug in changer and push power and volume up and down all together and you will see the battery charger icon then you can get it in to download mode from there.....
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Stinka ure a superstar (atm!) I did as you suggest to no avail but I noticed a slight increase in the time it took to start rebooting again. I do not know which buttons did this but some 20 later it lasted long enough for me to be able to flash twrp. Now i havent actually tried that as yet as i wanted to check with you first... I have the battery logo on screen, i tried recovery and it started as it should but then rebooted, now im unsure at this time whether the battery is almost dead or not so i got it on charge and have the grey battery with a white flash inside... is this what i want for now until its charged? if so i'll keep you informed thamnks more than u know if uve helped me fix this, the reason i was flashing was because when i received it (no warranty!!) the screen sometimes flickered and it would constaly end up rebboting after digging around re that im lead to believe it need a new battery and for the connecting wires to be resoldered. Anyways thanks again n as I say i'll keep this updated
Cheers
Tony
one of the probs i hab/have with this unit is that it takes approx a day to fully charge!!! when i received it the screen flickered on the odd occasion but it was rebooting much more frequently. It came with stock n not messed with previously (i new this prior to purchase so got it for right price thinking it only needed flashing, how wrong was I!!!) so I flashed and encountered the above mentioned problems! thanks to stinka I surprisingly managed to flash a recovery... now provided all goes to plan, which rom would one suggest for stability and generally hassle free and prusuming the aforementioned probs, rebooting etc are still there what could i try to stop that? other than a debloated stock I found Lineage an excellent rom but still the problems got so bad the unit became unusable and was lucky not to go out the window. Im thinking do i start with a replacement battery and check the wires etc or could this still be a software issue??
if i endevoured to do the hardware myself would I attempt it by removing screen or the base for access to battery/connector??
Thanks again
In the tab s1 the best way is removing the back cover, but for some reason tab s2 seen to be the screen... at least in this guide: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Tab+S2+Battery+Replacement/56616
Look like alot more complex than the s1 :/
RoIlingThunder said:
In the tab s1 the best way is removing the back cover, but for some reason tab s2 seen to be the screen... at least in this guide: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Tab+S2+Battery+Replacement/56616
Look like alot more complex than the s1 :/
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Thanks for that!!!
Tony
does look somewhat OTT!!!
will i have to odin stock first then flash rom i want or will it go straight from first flash via twrp considering there is absolutely nothing on phone at mo apart from twrp.
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if i endevoured to do the hardware myself would I attempt it by removing screen or the base for access to battery/connector??
Thanks again
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My guess is your issue is lack of charge in the device. That's the reason for the flashing failure and the reboot loop with the firmware error.
Bang it on charge for a while then irrespective of what it's doing, whether it's looping or not, hold POWER + HOME + VOL DOWN until download mode appears.
Reflash the stock firmware with odin.
swapped battery and reflashed stock via odin. It has helped although the issues are all still there its just they happen less frequently which doesnt mean its any less frustrating.